* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. SO MANY [00:00:01] YEARS OF I JUST, I KNOW. READY? READY COMMISSIONERS. THE TIME IS NOW 5:30 PM AND THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. SHALL NOW BEGIN. PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO I'LL WITNESS IN BRIEF PRAYER? YES. YES, MA'AM. FATHER, IN YOUR SON JESUS NAME, WE COME THIS EARLY EVENING TO GIVE YOU THANKS FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE. WE COME TO YOU AND ASKING YOUR SON JESUS NAME, THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND COMMISSIONERS DO YOUR WILL. THAT EVERYTHING IN THIS MEETING IS DONE IN ORDERLY FASHION. IN JESUS NAME I PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. ALLEGIANCE TO THE THRIVE OF THE UNITED STATES AND TO THE REPUBLIC STAND. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. ALRIGHTY, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I WILL NOW CALL THE ROLE ROSALYN VALE. PRESENT WHITE WAGNER HERE, ALIMA ESTO PRESENT ROOSEVELT, PETRI. PRESENT. MICHAEL DIXON LET THE RECORDS REFLECT THAT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. MADAM CHAIR. YES. CONTINUING ON. DO WE HAVE ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS? UM, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS. AND I NOTICED THAT IN OUR AGENDA WE SPOKE. WE SPOKE ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA. HOWEVER, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TODAY, SO WE NEED TO HAVE THE MINUTES APPROVED FROM AUGUST 3RD. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MINUTES PASSED. NON-CONSENT AGENDA. THIS IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING. AND ACTION. MS. MILO? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. THE CASE NUMBER IS EIGHT A 26 DASH ZERO TWO. THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE APPLICANT, WELL, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR AND MUNICIPAL CORPORATION. THE APPLICANT IS CLARENCE WISE OF WISE INVESTMENTS. THE PROPERTY LOCATION IS 20 FEET BY 146 FEET PORTION OF A DEDICATED ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY LOCATED BETWEEN AUSTIN AVENUE AND WACO AVENUE. AND I'M ON PAGE ONE, UM, COMMISSIONERS, ONE OF FIVE OF A 26 DASH OH TWO AND THE REQUEST TYPE IS AN ABANDONMENT OF A PORTION OF A DE DEDICATED ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY THE NATURE OF THE REQUEST. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR AN ABANDONMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING. AN APPROXIMATELY, APPROXIMATELY 0.067 ACRE PORTION OF AN UNIMPROVED DEDICATED PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, ALSO KNOWN AS AN ALLEY LOCATED BETWEEN AUSTIN AVENUE AND WACO AVENUE. THE TOTAL ACREAGE IS 0.067 ACRES OF LAND. THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL. THERE IS NO PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE. THE ABUTTING ZONES NORTH IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SOUTH AND WEST IS THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, AND EAST IS THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL DISTRICT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ABANDON A PORTION OF AN IMPROVED PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THE BACKGROUND NOTIFICATION OF THIS PROPOSED ABANDONMENT WAS SUBMITTED TO ALL UTILITY ENTITIES SERVICING THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR FOR COMMENT AND ACCEPTANCE. THE PLANNING STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS REQUEST. HOWEVER, SPECTRUM CABLE HAS REQUESTED ACCESS TO THE AREA FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE TO CABLE LINES. THEREFORE THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH AN ACCESS EASEMENT FOR THIS PURPOSE ON THE PER ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 27TH, 2026, 15 NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS. THE NOTICE WAS ALSO PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2026. UM, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVING A APPRAISAL DONE AS OF TODAY. UM, THE PO THE PURCHASE ORDER WAS SUBMITTED. UM, WE DID CONTACT THE, THE APPRAISERS AND THEY WILL BEGIN THE APPRAISAL NEXT WEEK. AND THAT WILL BE, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE READY FOR THE ACTUAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE DID REACH OUT TO ALL ENTITIES, THE GAS COMPANY, THE CABLE COMPANY, THE UTILITIES HERE AND ENGINEERING HERE, AND THEY HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE, UM, ALLEYWAY ABANDONMENT. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, UM, TO APPROVE THE ACTUAL, UM, PORTION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THAT IS ALL COMMISSIONERS. [00:05:02] THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE IF WE NEED TO JUST GO ON WITH ALL THE RELAS FIRST AND THEN DO A CROSS THE BOARD VOTE ON JUST RELAS, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL PERMIT USE HERE AT THIS MEETING. SO SUGGESTION, UM, WE CAN OPEN UP THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR, UM, COMMENT AT THIS POINT. PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT IT AT ALL? NO. OKAY. WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING, WHERE WAS IT? AND I, I KNOW YOU SAID IT'S BETWEEN AUSTIN AND WACO, BUT WHERE IS DUDE ACTUALLY AT? SEE WE DON'T HAVE IT UP HERE. NO, IT SHOULD BE ON THE MAP. WHAT'S THE CROSS STREET? 'CAUSE ALL CITY WACO IS PARALLEL. SO WHAT'S THE CROSS STREET? OKAY, I'LL SHOW IT. OKAY. I HAVE AN IDEA. IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, I LEE AVENUE KIND OF GO AT AN ANGLE. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION REGARDING THIS REFLEX. ALRIGHT, CALL FOR A VOTE. UM, YOU HAVE TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR. OH, THERE IS PEOPLE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. YES MA'AM. PUBLIC COMMENT. FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU'RE HERE TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEM WE DISCUSS TODAY, YOU WILL HAVE A THREE MINUTE LIMIT AND YOU MUST NAME WHERE YOU LIVE AND YOUR NAME. SO IS THERE ANY, AND IF YOU ARE FOR IT, YOU NEED TO LET US KNOW THAT YOU'RE FOR IT OR IF YOU'RE AGAINST IT, LET US KNOW. YOU'RE AGAINST WHATEVER OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DISCUSSED FLOOR IS OPEN. ANYONE, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE TO SPEAK? THREE. THREE MINUTES? YES. ALL RIGHT. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE HAVE ANYONE TO DISCUSS WITH US THIS REPLAY. SO IT'S AN ABANDONMENT. I'M SORRY, DR. VILLE? YEAH. IT'S AN ABANDONMENT MM-HMM . REPLAY TYPE THING. OH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. MM-HMM . UM, COMING DOWN AUSTIN AVENUE. MM-HMM . YOU NORMALLY PASS THIS WAY? MM-HMM . THEN THERE'S THE HOTARD BUSES OVER TO THE RIGHT IF YOU'RE COMING TOWARD DOWNTOWN. MM-HMM . OKAY. THAT PROPERTY THAT IT'S ON, IS THAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO MA'AM. IT'S ABOUT A HALF A MILE AWAY FROM, UM, THIS ACTUAL PROPERTY FURTHER TOWARD PROCTOR. GOING TOWARD, NO, NO, NO, NO. WITH THIS. YOU YOU MEAN THIS ACTUAL PROPERTY? NO, THIS IS MORE GOING TOWARD MOUNT CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH ON THE, THE DEEP WEST. LIKE GOING TOWARD 19TH STREET. OKAY. YES. HOARD IS GOING TOWARD PROCTOR. YES MA'AM. THIS, I KNOW. THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE WHOLE TAR PICTURE. 'CAUSE I'M LIKE THESE PEOPLE YEAH. HAVE A BUS TYPE THING. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO WE WILL NOW TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ABANDONMENT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY AGAINST MOTION PASSES. MS. MILO? YES, MA'AM. R TWO SIX DASH 27. THANK YOU SO MUCH. R TWO SIX DASH 26. WE ARE ON PAGE ONE OF NINE OF R TWO SIX DASH 26 FOR THE BUSINESS PARK SUBDIVISION 1 5 2 6 OR 2 7 2 2 6 DASH TWO SEVEN OH. Y'ALL SAY TWO SIX. WE SEE TWO SIX DASH 27. OKAY. GIMME ONE SECOND, COMMISSIONER. OH, THAT'S WHY IT'S MISSING A WHOLE THING. OH, OKAY. IS IT IN OUR 2 2 6 2 2 6 2 7. [00:10:08] LET'S OKAY. ALRIGHT. ONE OF NINE. OKAY. YEAH. THIS, OH YEAH, THAT'S, OH, THIS ONE. OKAY. THERE WE OKAY. OKAY. CASE NUMBER R TWO SIX DASH 26. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RBP REAL ESTATE LLC. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 9 5 7. KERRY TWIN THOMAS DRIVE, JCAD PARCEL NUMBER 4 1 9 4 2 2. THE REQUEST TYPE IS AN APPROVAL OF A REPL IN, IN THE PORT ARTHUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BUSINESS PARK EDITION. THE NATURE OF THE REQUEST, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING REPL OF BLOCK 10, TRACK 10, PORT ARTHUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, BUSINESS PARK, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE NEW TRACK NAME TRACK 10 DASH A AND 10 DASH B LYING IN THE T AND NORR COMPANY SURVEY A DASH 2 42 AND THE WILLIAM MCFADDEN SURVEY. A DASH 416 CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE LOT DIMENSIONS ARE MULTI-DIMENSIONAL. THE TOTAL ACREAGE IS FOUR ACRES OF LAND. THE CURRENT ZONING IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THERE IS NO PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE. THE ABUTTING ZONES ARE NORTHEAST, SOUTH AND WEST ARE ALL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPL IS TO DIVIDE ONE TRACK INTO TWO. AN APPLICATION FOR A REPL WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON OR AROUND AUGUST 7TH, 2026. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPL IS TO DIVIDE ONE TRACK INTO TWO LOTS ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 14TH, 2026. FIVE NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN A PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PNZ PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2026. AND THAT IS ALL COMMISSIONERS. ALL RIGHT. CASE NUMBER R TWO SIX DASH 26 COMMENTS. I MOVE TO APPROVE. I SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. NOW I GUESS WE ARE ON R TWO SIX DASH 27. YOU SECOND RIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER ESTO. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHTY. WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK, HAVE TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SURE. UH, SINCE WE HAD NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT, WE VOTED ON IT ALREADY, BUT MM-HMM . WILL THERE BE ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE SPEAKING ABOUT THIS REFLEX? NO. ONE SPEAKING. THANK YOU. THEN WE SHOULD MOVE ON TO R TWO SIX DASH 27. ALL RIGHT. CASE NUMBER R 26 DASH 27. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS KEITH CARTER. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTHEAST OF TEXAS AVENUE AND SOUTHEAST OF JEFFERSON COUNTY. DRAINAGE DITCH NUMBER SEVEN, JCAD PARCEL NUMBER 1 0 5 2 7 7 AND 1 0 5 2 7 8. THE REQUEST TYPE IS AN APPROVAL OF A REPL IN THE SUNNYLAND EDITION. THE NATURE OF THE REQUEST, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A REPL REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING, A REPL OF ALL OF LOT 10 AND SOUTH 35 OF, OF LOT 11 BLOCK FOUR SUNNYLAND EDITION, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE NEW TRACK NAME IS TRACK 10 DASH EIGHT REPL OF ALL OF LOT 10 AND SOUTH OF 35 SOUTH 35 FEET OF LOT 11 BLOCK FOUR. SUNNYLAND EDITION. CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE LOT DIMENSIONS ARE 35 FEET BY 217.5 FEET, TOTALING INTO 7612.5 SQUARE FEET. THE TOTAL ACREAGE IS 0.4448 ACRES OF LAND. THE CURRENT ZONING IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE ABUTTING ZONES NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST ARE ALL LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. [00:15:01] AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPLANT IS TO COMBINE TWO LOTS INTO ONE LOT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING. AN APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON OR AROUND AUGUST 21ST, 2026. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPLAY IS TO COMBINE TWO LOTS INTO ONE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 27TH, 2026, NINE. NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PNZ PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2026. AND THAT'S ALL COMMISSIONERS. JUST ONE QUESTION. SURE. IS THIS IN THE EL VISTA SECTION OF TOWN? YES SIR. OKAY. MM-HMM . YEAH, BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE SUNNY, SUNNY LAND SUBDIVISION WAS. I SAW TEXAS AVENUE AND I KNOW THEY CHANGED TEXAS AVENUE, YOU KNOW, HERE IN TOWN. OH, OKAY. OKAY. GOT OUR QUESTIONS ASKED. ALL RIGHT. NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. A MOTION TO APPROVE. MAKE SURE YOU OPEN UP THE WE WILL FLOOR. SECOND. SECOND. YES, MA'AM. YOU MADE THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS REPL IN SUNNY LAND SUBDIVISION. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE. NEXT CASE. Z 26 DASH ONE ONE. YES, MA'AM. CASE NUMBER Z 26 DASH 11. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS JESUS EDUARDO TREJO. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 58 0 1 WEST PORT ARTHUR ROAD, JCA PARCEL NUMBER 7 6 8 6 2. THE REQUEST TYPE IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THE NATURE OF THE REQUEST, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING PROPERTY DESCRIPTION TRACKS SIX SIX DASH A REPL LOTS, SIX AND SEVEN BLOCK EIGHT. THE PALOMAR EDITION, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE TOTAL ACREAGE IS 0.3526 ACRE OF LAND. THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL. THE PROPOSED ZONING IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AS YOU ALL KNOW, COMMISSIONERS. IT IS ALLOWED IN THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL DISTRICT, BUT ONLY BY SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE. OKAY. AND THE ABUTTING ZONES ARE NORTH AND SOUTH, COMMERCIAL RETAIL, EAST LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WEST, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR FUTURE LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL RETAIL. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO CONSIDER THE GRANTING OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE OPERATION OF AN AUTOMOBILE SALES AND REPAIR SHOP. BACKGROUND AND APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON OR AROUND AUGUST 24TH, 2026, REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE OPERATION OF AN AUTOMOBILE SALES AND REPAIR SHOP. A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS A ZONING AMENDMENT TO ALLOW A DESIGNATED USE IN A DESIGNATED LOCATION AND APPROVAL FOR A SPECIFIC USE THAT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE MORE INTENSE OR TO HAVE POTENTIALLY GREATER IMPACT THAN A USE PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITHIN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT. IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 6.07 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHALL REVIEW THE PARTICULAR FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES OF EACH PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE IN TERMS OF THE FOLLOWING GENERAL STANDARDS TO ENSURE WHAT THE USE IS. BY THE WAY, COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS SIMPLY A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. THEY ULTIMATELY HAVE THE FINAL DECISION. AND I WILL REPORT, UM, YOUR RECOMMENDATION DURING THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 20TH. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE USE SHALL BE HARMONIOUS WITH AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GENERAL OBJECTIVES OR WITH ANY SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL BE DESIGNED, CONSTRUCTED, OPERATED, AND MAINTAINED TO BE HARMONIOUS AND APPROPRIATE IN APPEARANCE WITH THE EXISTING OR INTENDED CHARACTER OF THE GENERAL VICINITY AND WILL NOT CHANGE THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA, WILL HAVE VEHICULAR APPROACHES TO THE PROPERTY, WHICH SHALL BE SO DESIGNED AS NOT TO CREATE INTERFERENCE WITH. TRAFFIC ON SURROUNDING THOROUGHFARES WILL NOT BE HAZARDOUS OR DISTURBING TO EXISTING OR FUTURE NEIGHBORING USES WILL NOT CREATE EXCESSIVE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS ON PUBLIC FACILITIES OR SERVICES. WILL NOT INVOLVE USES, ACTIVITIES, PROCESSES, MATERIALS, EQUIPMENT OR CONDITIONS OF OPERATION THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO ANY PERSON'S PROPERTY OR THE GENERAL WELFARE BY REASON OF EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC, NOISE, SMOKE, FUMES, GLARE, OR ODORS WILL NOT RESULT IN THE DESTRUCTION, LOSS, OR DAMAGE OF A NATURAL SCENIC OR HISTORIC FEATURE OF MAJOR SIGNIFICANCE. THE PROJECT ENTRANCE IS ON WEST PORT ARTHUR ROAD AND ON OR AROUND AUGUST 14TH, 2025, SIX NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS [00:20:01] WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PNZ PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2026. AND ALSO COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE OBLIGATED TO POST THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING INFORMATION ON THE CITY WEBSITE NOW AS WELL. SO WE HAVE BEEN PUBLISHING IT ON THE CITY WEBSITE AS WELL AS OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS. SO, AND THAT IS ALL COMMISSIONERS KIND OF. WOW. UM, I'M SURE THAT WE DO HAVE PEOPLE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE SPEAKING FOR AND MAYBE AGAINST, UM, OKAY. COMMISSIONS. I KNOW THAT AT ONE TIME IT USED TO BE A CAR DEALER IN THE PAST, I REMEMBER MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. SO I I AGREE TO, UM, TO APPROVE IT. IT IS A VERY COMMERCIAL STREET AS WELL. IT'S COMMERCIAL. BUT LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE PICTURES, IT'S A CHURCH ADJACENT. AM I CORRECT? NO MA'AM. THERE'S NO CHURCH. WHERE IS THE CHURCH? UM, WHEN THE PICTURES, OH, I'M SORRY. CHURCH. I'M SO SORRY, . THAT IS THE AREA. I KNOW THAT PART OF THAT, I'M, I'M CONFUSED. I'M MIXING UP MY SUVS. THIS IS LIKE OUR THIRD OR FOURTH SUP. UM, SO YES, THERE IS A CHURCH AND THEN THE LAND ACTUALLY SITS BETWEEN A CHURCH AND I BELIEVE THE COMPANY NEXT TO IT IS CALLED ROOFING 9 1 1. MM-HMM . SO, UM, IT IS A VERY HEAVILY DENSE COMMERCIAL AREA WHERE THERE IS NOTHING BUT COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THERE. AND THE FACT THAT A CHURCH IS THERE WON'T HINDER, UM, THE BUSINESS AT ALL. IT STILL HAS, UM, IT FITS THE DISTRICT, THE TYPE, IT'S JUST THAT THEY NEED THE PERMIT TO MOVE FORWARD. SO DEPENDING ON WHAT WE DECIDE AND ALREADY KNOW, WHENEVER IT GOES TO THE COUNCIL, THEY MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON WHAT WE THINK THAT WE WANT TO DO, ESPECIALLY ON SPECIAL USE PERMITS. THEY DO GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL. YES, MA'AM. AND I WILL SAY THEY DO, UM, TAKE YOUR CONSIDERATION VERY SERIOUSLY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. I KNOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS HERE TO SPEAK FOR ANYONE HERE SPEAKING FOR ANYONE HERE SPEAKING AGAINST IS ZONING SPECIAL USE PERMIT? NO ONE IS SPEAKING MOTION. I, UM, VOTE. VOTE TO APPROVE. AYE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. MY APOLOGIES. COMMISSIONERS, WHO MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC? I MOVE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING BE CLOSED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? A. AYE. ANY NOS? NONE. MOTION PASSES. WE ARE CLOSED WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. OBJECTION. OKAY. ANY STAFF REPORTS? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING BACK? I KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, BUT , GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. I KNOW IN THE PAST, UH, WHEN YOU VOTED FOR SOMETHING AND YOU VOTED AGAINST IT, IT WOULD GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE. BUT THE LAWS HAVE CHANGED. NOW WHEN IT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE. IT JUST GOES BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY. SO IT JUST PASSED, UH, NOT TOO LONG AGO. SO IT STARTED I THINK IN SEPTEMBER 1ST. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT. AND THAT'S IT. THAT I HAVE, I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. YOU SAID THIS LAW JUST PASSED, IS THIS A CITY LAW STATE POLICY? NO. THIS IS A STATE LAW JUST CORRECT. WE HAD TRAINING ON IT ABOUT A WEEK AGO. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE REALLY GUIDED BY THE STATE REGARDLESS. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT WAS CLEAR RECORDING. YEAH. THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND ALSO ANYONE CONFIRMING THAT THEY WILL BE ATTENDING THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION, TEXAS CHAPTERS CONFERENCE IN DALLAS. I KNOW MS. VICTORIA SENT YOU ALL EMAILS AND SHE HADN'T HEARD BACK FROM A FEW OF YOU. AND ALSO SHE JUST COMPLETED YOU, YOU ALL'S A PA MEMBERSHIP. SO THAT IS A BENEFIT. SO YOU DO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT AS WELL. YOU JUST HAVE TO GO SET UP YOUR ACCOUNTS. UM, BUT ANYONE PLANNING ON, [00:25:01] I, I SPOKE WITH HER TODAY MM-HMM . AND TOLD HER, SHE TOLD ME THAT THERE IS ONE IN HOUSTON, IN THE HOUSTON AREA. YES. THAT WILL BE NATIONAL NEXT YEAR. SO THAT I WOULD NOT MIND GOING, BUT I, I WOULD PREFER, UH, CITY PROVIDING SOME TRANSPORTATION AND, UH, I DON'T MIND GOING, BUT OKAY. YOU KNOW, I'LL DRIVE THROUGH THE BIG CITIES, BUT THAT'S NOT MY FAVORITE THING TO DO. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. I, UM, SHE SAID THAT WE CHOOSE CHOSE ONE OR THE OTHER. SO I SAID I'D RATHER GO TO HOUSTON. OKAY. BECAUSE IT IT'S A NATIONAL YES MA'AM. AND DR. AND I DECIDED THAT I WOULD NOT ATTEND EITHER ONE. OKAY. HOWEVER, I DO ALREADY HAVE A MEMBERSHIP TO A PA MM-HMM . AND I'M JUST GETTING IT RENEWED. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. AND ONE MORE THING, UM, SIMILAR TO THE BLANKET ZONE CHANGE THAT WE DID ON SEVENTH STREET NOT TOO LONG AGO. Z 26 DASH 10, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU REMEMBER ALL THOSE BEAUTIFUL BRICK HOMES MM-HMM . IN THAT COMMERCIAL ZONE DISTRICT. MM-HMM . WE HAVE RUN INTO ANOTHER, UM, LOCATION SIMILAR TO THAT ONE IN DISTRICT, UM, THREE. UM, IT IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FIVE. WHAT WE HAVE NOTICED, AND THIS IS JUST SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT TO YOU ALL YET BECAUSE WE'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, DOING THE RESEARCH PART. UM, BUT WE'VE NOTICED THAT THE AREA IS ZONED ONLY TO HAVE MULTI-FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL. THIS IS GREENPOINT PLAZA AND IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. WELL, IT'S RIGHT BY THE GOLF COURSE CLOSE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM NINTH AVENUE STATION. AND THAT SUBDIVISION, UM, THE LAND, WASN'T THAT THE LAND ACROSS ON NINTH AVENUE? THEY WERE TRYING TO, IT'S NOTHING BUT BIG. BEAUTIFUL. IT'S KIND OF LIKE IN THE AREA WHERE DR. BROWN LIVES, WHERE ALL THOSE BIG BEAUTIFUL HOMES ARE BUILT. MM-HMM . IT'S NOTHING BUT HOMES. SO THE ISSUE IS IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT DID BRING UP SOME, SOME CONCERN BECAUSE A YOUNG LADY DID COME AND SHE WANTED TO PURCHASE SOME LAND THERE TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. BUT SINCE THE ORDINANCE HAS CHANGED, AND REMEMBER WE TOOK THE RESIDENTIAL USE OUT OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OUT OF HEAVY DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SO SHE CAME INTO AN ISSUE AND WE RESEARCHED THE PROPERTY. WE TOOK A DRIVE OUT THERE. I MEAN, IT'S NOTHING BUT BRICK HOMES. VERY LITTLE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY. SO, UM, WE DID WANNA BRING IT TO YOU ALL'S ATTENTION. WE ARE GONNA BRING THE DEVELOPER IN, THE DEVELOPER WHO CREATED THAT SUBDIVISION, UM, JUST TO SEE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT. AND OF COURSE, WE WERE GONNA BE IN CONTACT WITH, UM, THE REPRESENTATION FOR DISTRICT THREE TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, UM, AND LET THEM KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING IT. BUT IT HAS CAUSED SOME ISSUES WITH BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THAT AREA. AND WE, WE DON'T WANT, WE DON'T REALLY WANT ANYBODY TO COME PUT A CORNER STORE, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN, THEY CAN, SO WE DID SEE A NEED TO EXPEDITE IT. SO I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW, I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO BE AWARE. IT IS IN THE PD FIVE ORDINANCE. UM, I WILL BRING IT TO THE NEXT MEETING FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND, UM, BUT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD JUST GATHERING DATA AND INFORMATION SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OLD CHANGE QUESTION. MM-HMM . THIS THE SAME TYPE SITUATION THAT HAPPENED. INVESTOR VILLAGE WHERE THE FIRST, HE WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF HOMES, AND THEN HE HAD A MEETING OUT THERE WITH THE RESIDENTS. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT RODERICK SHIELDS? NO, THIS ONE IS MORE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST DID ON RANSOM. HOWARD STREET. MM-HMM . WHERE WE CHANGED THE COMMERCIAL, WHERE ALL THOSE BRICK HOMES ARE, WHERE WE CHANGED IT FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL. SO IT'S EXACTLY LIKE THAT. IT'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF BEAUTIFUL HOMES IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND COMPANIES? DO THEY GET GRANDFATHERED IN TO DO THE HOMES, GET GRANDFATHER THERE? WE MISSED PATCHES BECAUSE PASS, ONCE WE, WELL, AGAIN, WE DID OUR RESEARCH. THERE'S VERY LITTLE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THAT FRONT, UM, THOROUGHFARE ON NINTH AVENUE. MM-HMM . THEY DID CREATE THAT FOR COMMERCIAL RETAIL. SO WE WILL LET THAT REMAIN THE SAME. AND THERE'S A SHOP AND STRIP. AS SOON AS YOU TURN INTO THE, RIGHT, INTO THE SUBDIVISION, OFF TO THE LEFT THERE, THERE'S LIKE A NICE LITTLE LUXURY SUBDIVISION. I MEAN, SHOPPING STRIP. IT'S THE ONLY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THERE. SO EVERYTHING ELSE IS RESIDENTIAL. SO THEY WOULDN'T NEED AN SUP OR ANYTHING. ONCE WE CHANGE IT, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BUILD HOMES BY RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. WHICH IS SIMILAR TO SEVENTH STREET AGAIN. UM, THE SEVENTH STREET AREA, THE, UM, WHERE WE ALLOWING, WE CHANGED THE COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT THE ONES THAT WERE, THE HOMES THAT WERE BUILT ON THAT COMMERCIAL THOROUGHFARE ON SEVENTH STREET, WE ALLOW THEM TO HAVE AN SUP BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA PARTICULARLY STOP COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON SEVENTH STREET, BUT WE WANNA PROTECT THE HOMES ON SEVENTH STREET AS WELL. MM-HMM . THANK YOU. BUT I WILL BREAK IT DOWN AND GIVE YOU INFORMATION AS WE MOVE THROUGH IT. UM, AND JUST KEEP YOU ABREAST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING. IT WAS, [00:30:01] IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND, UM, AS WE TOLD, UM, CITY COUNCIL BEFORE WITH THE ORDINANCE CHANGE, WE WILL COME INTO SOME ISSUES LIKE THIS AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE. AND AS SOON AS WE SPOTTED, I PROMISE YOU WE WILL BE PROACTIVE IN OUR ATTEMPTS TO MAKE, UM, THE CHANGES. YEAH. BECAUSE I KNOW THE MAYOR IS ABOUT ROOFTOPS. MM-HMM . I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE REALIZE ROOFTOPS MEAN HOME. MM-HMM . NOT APARTMENT. YES. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, FOR HER, IT'S ALL ABOUT ROOFTOPS AND INCREASING THE APARTMENT TAX BASE, OBVIOUSLY HERE, UH, IT DOES HELP. YES, MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WHEN'S THE NEXT MEETING? I CAN TELL YOU THAT . OH, IT'S NOT THAT DATE. LET'S SEE. THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON OCTOBER 5TH. SAME TIME, SAME PLACE. FIRST MONDAY IN MONTH. IS IT? YES, IT IS. THE FIRST MONDAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, LET'S END THIS MEETING. ALL IN FAVOR TO END OUR COMMISSIONER'S MEETING A AYE. CAN YOU MAKE THE MOTION? YES. FIRST I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND THAT. . . OH NO. WE DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE TO SECOND IT. I KNOW. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES. WE ARE DONE. 6:01 PM THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. VERY GOOD MEETING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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