[00:00:02] ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. OH. WE'RE READY. THANK YOU. MORNING. IN PROGRESS. GREAT. GOOD [I. INVOCATION, PLEDGE & ROLL CALL] MORNING TO EVERYBODY. IT IS NOW 1003. WE WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO OUR CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING. WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 5TH, 2026. THE CITY COUNCIL. YOU MAY JOIN OUR MEETING BY TELEPHONIC AND OR VIDEO CONFERENCE, AND YOU MAY DO SO BY DIALING (877) 853-5247. OR YOU CAN CALL (888) 788-0099. ONCE YOU DIAL THE NUMBER, PLEASE ENTER OUR MEETING ID OF 86511365278 AND OUR PASSCODE OF 202756. WE WANT TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT, AND YOU MAY CALL 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE TO JOIN OUR MEETING AND CALLING OUR CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AT (409) 983-8115. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE MUTE OR TURN OFF YOUR MOBILE DEVICES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR INVOCATION, OUR PLEDGE, AND OUR ROLL CALL. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCILMAN KINLAW TO LEAD US IN A WORD OF PRAYER. MAYOR PRO TEM KINLAW TO LEAD US IN PRAYER. YES, MAYOR, WOULD YOU STAND, PLEASE? OH, HEAVENLY FATHER, ONCE AGAIN, WE ASK FOR YOUR PRAYER HUMBLY IN THIS MEETING. WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THE CITIZEN, THE STAFF. WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THIS COUNCIL. WE ASK YOU TO GIVE US GUIDANCE IN THIS MEETING THAT WE WOULD DO IT IN YOUR NAME. WE ASK ALL THESE BLESSINGS. YOUR SON JESUS NAME I PRAY, WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. CITY SECRETARY, ESTABLISH A QUORUM, PLEASE. MAYOR MOSES HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM KINLAW HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. GATEWOOD HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PENA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. JACOBS. COUNCIL MEMBER. FRANK. YES. YOU HAVE A QUORUM, MAYOR. THANK YOU. THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, [II.(1) P.R. No. 25060 – A Resolution Of The City Of Port Arthur, Texas Designating The Officer Or Employee Responsible For Complying With Section 26.04 Of The Texas Tax Code.] NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE ITEMS REQUIRING OUR INDIVIDUAL ACTION. NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE THE PR NUMBER 25060, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, DESIGNATING THE OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPLYING WITH SECTION 26.04 OF THE TEXAS TAX CODE. MAY I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I ANY NOSE. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO [II.(2) P.R. No. 25061 – A Resolution To Consider Establishing The Proposed Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Tax Rate, Taking A Record Vote And Scheduling A Public Hearing To Receive Public Comment On The Proposed Tax Rate.] NUMBER TWO. PR NUMBER 25061. A RESOLUTION TO CONSIDER ESTABLISHING THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2026 2027 TAX RATE, TAKING A RECORD RECORD VOTE AND SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE. MAY I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY. SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? WE GOT TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. CITY SECRETARY. COUNCIL MEMBER. PERRY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. GATEWOOD. YES. MAYOR. PRO TEM. KINLAW. YES, MA'AM. YES. THANK YOU. ITEM PASSES. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE DOWN TO NUMBER THREE. PR NUMBER [II.(3) P.R. No. 25062 – A Resolution To Call A Public Hearing To Receive Public Comment On The Proposed Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Budget.] 25062. A RESOLUTION TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2026 2027 BUDGET. MAY I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I ANY KNOWS THE AYES HAVE IT. THE [II. WORKSHOP] RESOLUTION PASSES. WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM TWO OUR WORKSHOP. WE'RE GOING TO BE TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 2027. AND I KNOW AS WHOEVER'S COMING UP TO DISCUSS IT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL RECEIVES. I DON'T THINK WE RECEIVED THE PROPOSED BUDGET. NOTICE THE DRAFT, NOTICE IT. THE DRAFT. IF THEY CAN DELIVER THOSE TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE WE HAVE THE NEXT WORKSHOP SO WE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT. WE WANT TO REVIEW THOSE THINGS BEFORE WE COME TO A MEETING AND GET IT FRESH IN A MEETING. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO, WHO I NEED TO ADDRESS THAT TO, BUT WE WANT TO GET COPIES PRIOR TO OUR NEXT WORKSHOP. YEAH. OKAY. LYNN, MAY YOU COME FRONT, PLEASE, AND JUST SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL AS [00:05:02] TO HOW SOON WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM A COPY OF THE DRAFT BUDGET. COUNCIL BY BOSWELL. YEAH. I DON'T THINK YOUR MIC IS ON WHEN. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND BOSWELL, YOUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE. YOU WILL GET YOUR FULL COPY. THE CITY MANAGER WILL PRESENT TO YOU THE FULL COPY AT LEAST BY THE 20TH OF AUGUST, AS IT PERTAINS TO THE CAPITAL AND THE ENTERPRISE. WE HAVE INFORMATION, BUT WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU ON FRIDAY. YOUR NEXT BUDGET MEETING IS AUGUST 12TH ON WEDNESDAY, AND I BELIEVE FRIDAY IS THE TIME THAT WE WANT TO GET THAT OVER TO YOU. IS THAT WILL THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME? ON FRIDAY, YOU SAID, WELL, I'M HOLD UP ENTERPRISE AND CAPITAL. WE NEED TO GET THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. BEFORE FRIDAY. YEAH. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. AT LEAST GIVE US SOME TIME TO GO THROUGH IT SO WE CAN GO. OUR MEETING IS NEXT THURSDAY ON THE 12TH, SO WE CAN GET THAT WEDNESDAY THE 11TH. WAIT, WHAT DAY IS IT TODAY? TODAY IS THE FIFTH. IS TODAY WEDNESDAY? YES, IT. WE ARE. THE 12TH IS NEXT WEDNESDAY. IS IT WEDNESDAY OR. NO. YES, I, I COULD HAVE WANTED THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO IT ON MONDAY OR TUESDAY AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE I THINK THE 12TH. THE 12TH IS A WEDNESDAY. YES. WE ADDED AN EXTRA DAY. WELL, WE ADDED AN EXTRA DAY ON THE 17TH. RIGHT. I HAD SAID MONDAY THE 17TH. YES. OKAY. MAYOR, BECAUSE WE ALSO WE HAD SOME TRAINING IN ROUND ROCK, I THINK ON THE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY ON THE 13TH. RIGHT. ARE YOU GOING TO BE. YES, THE 13TH AND 14TH. BUT. SO WE CAN'T DO THE 12TH. WE ALREADY VOTED ON THE 12TH. WE'RE GOOD ON THE 12TH. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ONE IN THE MORNING. RIGHT. I MEAN, BECAUSE IT IS IT'S AT 10 A.M. BUT BUT THE MAYOR IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WHEN SHE SAID THAT WE NEED THAT INFORMATION PRIOR TO I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE I APOLOGIZE, MAYOR PRO TEM KINLAW. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I'M SO SORRY. WE ARE JUST WE WE NEED THAT BY NEXT WEEK. YOU'LL GET THE CAPITAL, THE ONES THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING FOR THE NEXT BUDGET WORKSHOP. YOU'LL BE GETTING THAT. THAT'S WHY I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS FRIDAY. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY, DIRECTOR, BUT I'M JUST SAYING YOU'VE HAD A WHOLE YEAR TO PREPARE FOR THIS, SO WHY CAN'T WE GET IT NEXT WEEK? THE ENTIRE PROPOSED BUDGET. YEAH, WE. YEAH. WE NEED THE I WANT TO REVIEW IT. WE WANT THE WHOLE THE WHOLE BUDGET. WE USUALLY DO THAT IN PIECES. I WILL DIRECT THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER. WE WILL. OKAY. I'LL I NEED TO GET CITY MANAGER NOT WORKING ON IT. I'M ASKING THE QUESTION CAN WE GET THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROPOSED BUDGET BY NEXT WEEK? BECAUSE THIS IS A MEETING THAT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET IT. AND IF I UNDERSTAND, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THOSE TWO SUBTOPICS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF THAT WE'LL REVIEW THOSE SUBTOPICS. BUT SO I'M LIKE, I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR. WHY CAN'T WE GET IT BY NEXT WEEK? I'M NOT WORKING ON IT. I WANT TO KNOW. IT WON'T BE PRETTY. WELL, LET'S JUST WORKING THE DOCUMENT. WE JUST WANT TO GET A DRAFT. LET'S GIVE THEM A DRAFT. DRAFT A DRAFT WITH NUMBERS AND. BUT IT WILL BE PRETTY RIGHT. BUT IT'S A WORKING DOCUMENT. WE KNOW THAT'S. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE ENTIRE BUDGET. LIKE WE ALWAYS GET IT. NORMALLY THIS IS A PROPOSED BUDGET. I KNOW IT'S NOT A FINAL WE HAVE, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REVIEW PRIOR TO COMING HERE ON WEDNESDAY AND THE 17TH. WE NEED SOMETHING. AND MAYOR, THAT'S FINE BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS IN THE 17TH. THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS THE STATUS QUO BUDGET. SO WE'LL GIVE IT WITH THE NUMBERS, WITH THE DRAFT NUMBERS IN IT. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO COMPARE FROM LAST YEAR. THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE BUDGET WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PERSONNEL IN THE STATUS QUO BUDGET. OKAY. THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. THIS THE INCREASES ARE IN THE ENTERPRISE BUDGET AND IN THE THE IT'S IT'S AND THE CAPITAL AND CAPITAL. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES. AND IF THEY CAN BE DELIVERED TO US, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. ANYTHING. SO WHAT WHAT'S THE THE WORKS. IT SAYS DISCUSS PROPOSED BUDGET AND FISCAL YEAR. I'M SORRY COUNCILMEMBER, NO. YOU'RE GOOD. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING READY TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION. I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT TODAY WE WERE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THOSE TWO. THOSE TWO, FUNDS TODAY AT THIS MEETING, THE ENTERPRISE AND THE ENTERPRISE FUND TODAY. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. SO REMEMBER WE HAVE THE CAPITAL PART OF IT. WE HAVE A $55 MILLION CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO HOW WE DEVIATE UP. SO THAT'S WHY SHE SAID WE WILL GET THAT BACK TO YOU. BUT LET US DO THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS ON THE PRESENTATION IN THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. THOSE ARE SELF REPORTING FUNDS. OKAY. SO LET ME ASK THIS. IS THERE IS THERE A PHYSICAL [00:10:02] DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE TODAY SO WE CAN TAKE NOTES ON IT? DO YOU HAVE YOU MADE COPIES? YES. YES. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN ALSO TOO, I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. IT WAS KIND OF, SIMILAR TO WHAT THE MAYOR WAS ASKING ABOUT. YOU GO TO COPIES. YES. GIVE IT TO THEM, PLEASE. THANK YOU. AND NOW I AND I'M ALSO ASKING FOR CLARITY TOO, BECAUSE THIS IS THIS, OF COURSE, IS MY FIRST WORKSHOP HERE. BUT I WANTED TO ALSO ASK A QUESTION THAT WAS KIND OF SIMILAR IN REFERENCE TO WHAT THE MAYOR ASKED ABOUT THE BUDGET IN TOTALITY. I DID GET POSED A QUESTION BY, ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS AND OF COURSE, I THINK IT WAS A LEGITIMATE QUESTION. IT DEALS WITH THE CHARTER. AND THEY WERE ASKING, PER THE CHARTER, FROM WHAT THEIR KNOWLEDGE IS, THE BUDGET WOULD HAVE TO BE POSTED TEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE WORKSHOP. AND SO THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT I, THAT I RECEIVED THAT I WANTED TO GET CLARITY ON, TO, TO CLARIFY FOR ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS IN PORT ARTHUR, COULD YOU ANSWER THAT? I BELIEVE IT IS TEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. PUBLIC HEARING IS SEPTEMBER 8TH AND THE ENTIRETY OF THE BUDGET, THE PROPOSED BUDGET FROM THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO BE POSTED ON AUGUST 20TH. OKAY. IT'S REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO SO. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS STICK WITH THAT. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT I RECEIVED, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD THE PROPER INFORMATION, BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THAT'S A QUESTION THAT'S GOING TO BE FLOATING AROUND. SO NOW WE HAVE THAT ANSWER. THANKS. AND THAT THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US, FOR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE SAKE THAT WE GIVE THEM KIND OF AN OUTLINE OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, THE BUDGETARY PROCESS, JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU OUTLINED IT. AND, IT WAS IN ONE OF OUR MEETINGS AND IT WAS ON THE AGENDA. BUT IF WE COULD GIVE THEM A TYPE PROCESS BY WHICH WE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, HOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS TO BE DONE. I SAW IT SOMEWHERE. I CAN'T REMEMBER RIGHT NOW, BUT I DID SEE IT SOMEWHERE THAT YOU DID HAVE. SO IT WAS, IT WAS IN THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, AND IT WAS FOR THIS MEETING, I HAD A POWERPOINT ON THE TAX RATE AND ON WHAT IS NEXT ON. THERE ARE THE DATES AGAIN, AND I'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS GET THAT BEFORE WE GO. WE DID. WE REVIEWED IT. I'M SORRY. I KNEW IT WAS SOMEWHERE THAT WE REVIEWED ALL OF THE STEPS. YES. AND THEN WE ADDED THE EXTRA MEETING BECAUSE WE SAW ONLY TWO MEETINGS. AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSTING OF IT TO IT WAS ALL ON THAT THAT DOCUMENT. SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE GO BACK AND REVIEW THAT PRESENTATION. SHE MADE ALL OF THAT AND WIN THE BUDGET, AS WE POSTED BY LAW. ALL OF THAT'S IN THERE. SO I CAN I CAN ALSO TELL YOU AGAIN. SO I HAVE AUGUST 12TH, WEDNESDAY, THE PROPOSED BUDGET WORKSHOP. AUGUST 17TH. MONDAY PROPOSED BUDGET WORKSHOP. AUGUST 20TH DRAFT BUDGET PUBLISHED. I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT BE WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENT WAS ASKING FOR. SEPTEMBER 8TH PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED TAX AND PROPOSED BUDGET AND ADOPTION OF TAX AND BUDGET. ON SEPTEMBER 22ND AT A REGULAR MEETING. SO SEPTEMBER 8TH AND SEPTEMBER 22ND ARE YOUR REGULAR MEETINGS, AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR I'M SORRY, CITY ATTORNEY HAS A LIGHTS ON. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER COUNCIL MEMBER GATEWOOD'S LEGAL QUESTION, IF I MAY. MAYOR, THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO AREAS OF THE LAW THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT. AND, ONE IS STATE LAW AND IT'S UNDER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 102.005. AND IT STATES THAT THE BUDGET OFFICER SHALL FILE THE PROPOSED BUDGET WITH THE MUNICIPAL CLERK, OUR CITY SECRETARY, BEFORE THE 30TH DAY, BEFORE THE DATE THE CITY MAKES ITS TAX LEVY. SO YOU GOT THE PROPOSED BUDGET HAS TO BE FILED AT LEAST 30 DAYS ACCORDING TO STATE LAW. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE THE DECISION TO ADOPT THE BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER THE 22ND. SO THAT MEANS AT LEAST 30 DAYS BEFORE IT NEEDS TO BE FILED. AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT ON AUGUST 20TH, WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE THAN 30 DAYS. THE OTHER AREA THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE TALKING ABOUT INVOLVING OUR CITY CHARTER IS ACTUALLY ARTICLE SEVEN. IT'S IN FINANCE AND IT'S SECTION FIVE. AND IT SAYS THAT AT LEAST 30 DAYS BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF EACH FISCAL YEAR, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL SUBMIT THE COUNCIL A PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR START OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH. SO ACCORDING TO THE CHARTER, HE, THE CITY MANAGER, WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET AT LEAST BY AUGUST 30TH. BUT YOU'LL BE GETTING IT. IT SOUNDS LIKE AUGUST 20TH. SO THOSE ARE THE LEGAL DEADLINES, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE MEETING THEM AND EXCEEDING THE DEADLINES REQUIRED. PERFECT. THANK YOU. AND LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO THAT WAY THAT COMMUNICATION CAN BE COMMUNICATED TRANSPARENTLY TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. SO THEY KNOW EXACTLY THE TIMELINE, WHAT TO [00:15:04] EXPECT PER OUR CHARTER. AND OF COURSE, PER THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED, AS A MUNICIPALITY IN ITSELF. BUT, THANK YOU FOR THAT FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. AND, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOMETHING POSTED AS WELL ABOUT THAT. SO THAT WAY CITIZENS CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS AND WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT A TIMELINE AS WELL. GOTCHA. QUESTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU. BEFORE YOU, YOU DO HAVE THE ENTERPRISE FUND, SINCE YOU HAD REQUESTED TO REVIEW THIS, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OVER IT. AT LEAST YOU HAVE THIS PART AND WE'LL HAVE THE REMAINDER OF THE BUDGET THIS WEEK. MR. BURTON. WE'LL HAVE THE REMAINDER OF THE BUDGET. ALL OF IT TO YOU. THE NOT PRETTY PART. I AIN'T GIVING YOU NOT PRETTY THINGS, BUT IT WILL HAVE IT TO YOU BY FRIDAY FOR OUR NEXT WEDNESDAY MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU. LYNN. LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT WE PROVIDED THEM WITH THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WHATEVER DISCUSSION TAKES PLACE TODAY, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE COULD STILL BRING UP WHATEVER CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AT OUR NEXT MEETING AT OUR NEXT BUDGET MEETING. OKAY. SO ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED AND, YOU SEE, THERE IS A NEED FOR CLARIFICATION, ON, ON THE SUBJECT OR ON THE ACCOUNT ON THAT DEPARTMENT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO BRING IT UP SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND PROVIDE YOU WITH ALL THE ANSWERS THAT YOU NEED, AS WELL AS FOR THE EDIFICATION OF THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, SO I WILL BE HERE ALL WEEKEND WHEN YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER YOU RECEIVE IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING, ALLOW ME THAT OPPORTUNITY SO I CAN BE PREPARED AND WE CAN HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. I SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD BECAUSE ON THE IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT THE COUNCIL VOTED ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECAP WHERE WE WERE FROM THE FIRST THE LAST PRESENTATION WE MADE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, SO THAT COUNCIL HAS A FIRM GRIP BECAUSE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WE DID NOT HAVE THE TAX RATE. WE REMINDED THEM THAT THE TAX RATE WAS NOT AVAILABLE. NOW THAT WE GOT THE TAX RATE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL IN DOLLARS AND CENTS WHAT THAT IS GOING TO MEAN FOR THE NEW BUDGET, IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF REVENUES THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING IN AS PROPOSED, AS OPPOSED TO OUR CURRENT BUDGET. AND I THINK IT'S FOR THE EDIFICATION OF THE PUBLIC AS WELL. SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE ARE. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. IF THE MAYOR WILL ALLOW ME TO GO AHEAD WITH THE PRESENTATION, THIS LOOKS SIMILAR TO LAST WEEK. SO WHAT I THINK I WANT TO DO IS KIND OF BUILD ON EVERY POWERPOINT THAT I PRESENTED, JUST TO KIND OF REINFORCE AND TO HOPEFULLY MAKE IT CONTINUALLY EASIER. EACH AND EVERY TIME I GIVE YOU A TABLE OF CONTENTS JUST THAT WAY. AND ONE MORE TIME, I ALSO REVIEW WHAT THE DIFFERENT FUNDS ARE FOR. AND WE WENT OVER THAT LAST TIME. AND FOR THOSE WHO WERE NOT THERE, WE WENT OVER THE GENERAL FUND. THE PURPOSE OF THE DEBT FUND, WHICH IS PAID FOR BY TAXES, THAT WAS VOTER APPROVED, BY THE WAY, THE ENTERPRISE AND SPECIAL FUND. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DEBT FUND, BECAUSE, AS I SAID, THAT IS USED FROM THE VOTER APPROVED TAXES THAT YOU ALL APPROVED AS A PROPOSAL. I DO HAVE THESE NUMBERS FOR YOU NOW. AND YOU SEE THAT THE VALUES HAVE INCREASED. WE HAVE A MINIMAL DECREASE OF THE CURRENT TAX RATE, WHICH IS WE'RE GOING FROM A 0.61574724 TO 0.613, WHICH IS 0.36% DECREASE. THAT'S ALL THAT THAT IS. IT WILL GIVE US ANOTHER 1.7 MILLION IN LAST YEAR, THE INCREASE WAS JUST A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND. OKAY. YEAH. I'M SO SORRY. I'M ABOUT AS LOST AS I CAN BE. AND I KNOW I'M SITTING HERE. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THAT. WHAT ARE WE IS THAT IN IN THIS PACKET YOU [00:20:02] PASSED OUT FOR WATER. NO, NO, THIS IS ONLY THIS IS ONLY THE THE ENTERPRISE FUND. YEAH. THIS IS JUST THIS IS JUST GOING OVER THE TAXES THAT WE JUST WENT OVER THAT YOU GUYS DID THE PROPOSAL FOR HANDOUT FOR IT OR SOMETHING, OR WE DON'T HAVE A HANDOUT FOR WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING. WHAT I CAN MAKE SOME COPIES. IT'S UNDER IT'S UNDER THE CITY COUNCIL PRESENTATION. 0805 THAT POWERPOINT. OKAY. CAN I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SEE THAT GUYS, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE DIDN'T GET A COPY IN ADVANCE. ANYTIME WE'RE PRESENTING SOMETHING, THE COUNCIL NEEDS A COPY BEFORE WE START GIVING A PRESENTATION. WE'RE GOING TO JUST KIND OF HOLD UP UNTIL WE GET A COPY OF THAT. YES. MAYOR MOSES, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? PLEASE? GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN, GET WORD. I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION. WHAT WHAT ALL ARE WE GOING THROUGH TODAY IN THIS BUDGET WORKSHOP? ARE WE GOING THROUGH THE THE ENTERPRISE FUND AND THE CAPITAL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME? ARE WE GOING ARE WE GOING THROUGH SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED? WHAT WHAT'S ALL ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S BUDGET WORKSHOP? WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA IS WHAT WE PUBLISHED TO ACCEPT THE TAX RATE THAT IS AVAILABLE THAT WE JUST DID. AND TWO, TO GO OVER THE FACT THAT WE THE LAST TIME WHAT THE DIRECTOR DID WAS PRESENTED THE THE PRO THE TAX RATE THAT WAS NOT READILY PROPOSED AS YET, BUT SHE GAVE YOU AN IDEA AS TO WHAT WAS COMING. NOW THAT SHE HAS RECEIVED THE TAX RATE BY FRIDAY LAST WEEK. YOU GOT IT, LYNN. SHE GOT IT ON FRIDAY. SHE ASKED US TO APPROVE OF IT TODAY. AND THEN SHE WAS GOING OVER IT IN DOLLARS AND CENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS AND THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE INCREASE WILL LOOK LIKE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE FACT THAT SHE DID NOT. WE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT YOU A COPY SO THAT THE COUNCIL CAN FOLLOW IT AS WELL. AND SHE'S READY FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WHICH IS BALANCED RIGHT NOW. AS I INDICATED, SHE HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH A COPY. IF WE DO NOT HAVE IF WE ARE NOT READY TO ASK QUESTIONS, COUNCIL HAS A COPY ON THE ENTERPRISE FUND WHAT THEY COULD DO, THEY COULD THUMB THROUGH IT, YOU COULD THUMB THROUGH IT. AND WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY ASK, YOU ARE FREE TO ASK IT AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP AS WELL. LET LET ME LET ME JUST KIND OF, I THINK ALL OF US ARE JUST SO THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER FOR EXPLAINING THAT, BUT WE JUST GOT THIS WATER AND SEWER FUND. I'M THINKING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS TODAY. ALL OF US ARE THINKING THAT WE JUST GOT HANDED THE COPY AND THEN WE SAY, LET'S THUMB THROUGH IT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO THUMB THROUGH ANYTHING. OKAY, WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THIS BEFORE TODAY SO THAT WE COULD HAVE GONE THROUGH IT PRIOR TO TODAY, IF IT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED, IF IT WASN'T SCHEDULED TO BE PRESENTED TODAY. SO ARE YOU GIVING IT TO US TODAY FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY? WE DON'T HAVE A SCHEDULE OF WHAT WE'RE COVERING SO THAT WE CAN KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. WHAT ARE WE COVERING? TO HAND ME SOMETHING TODAY WITH NUMBERS I MATHEMATICALLY DEFICIENT. OKAY. SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH IT. I'M SPEAKING FOR ME. EVERYBODY ELSE MIGHT BE ASTUTE, BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT. A CITY MANAGER. YEAH. BEFORE WE I NEED A SCHEDULE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WATER SEWER FUNDS NEXT WEEK, WE NEED THAT INFORMATION, THE WHOLE BUDGET BEFORE WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE. IT'S RESPECTFUL TO GIVE IT TO US BEFORE SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW IT AND BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS IN THAT WORKSHOP SETTING. I'M CONFUSED. I I'M NOT TELLING YOU NOTHING. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST THE TAX RATE. WE CAME IN JUST TO APPROVE THE TAX RATE AND GO HOME. THEN WE POST THAT, BUT WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM POSTED FOR WORKSHOP. I DON'T SEE WHAT'S THE WORKSHOP SCHEDULE. WHAT ARE WE HANDLING TODAY? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IN THIS WORKSHOP? I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF TIME TO, TO JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I GOT. YEAH, OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT WE ARE BEING EVEN EVEN MORE SO NOW WITH DEALING WITH THE BUDGET, GOING INTO IT, HAVING THAT UNDERSTANDING SO THAT WE, OUR CONSTITUENTS CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AS WELL. OKAY. SO I MEAN, CAN I SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE? CITY MANAGER SO, LYNN, I THINK YOU'RE READY TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND AS IT IS. ARE WE? YES, YES SHE IS. SO WE'RE DOING THAT TODAY. YES. WE CAN DO THAT TODAY. YES. OKAY. YES. SO ALRIGHT, SO LET'S START WITH THE LET'S WAIT UNTIL WE BRING BACK THE COPIES FIRST. [00:25:02] AND I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK ON IT AS WE DISCUSSED YESTERDAY, TO PROVIDE CLARITY ON THE TAX RATE. AND THEN IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, WE CAN COME BACK AND ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. YES. BECAUSE SOMEBODY REVIEWED IT WITH US FIRST. AND NOW WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. YEAH. NEXT, YOU KNOW, AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT AT LEAST YOU'VE REVIEWED IT. AND IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS WE CAN ASK. YEAH. BECAUSE I'M JUST, I'M, I JUST NEED A, WE COULD GET A SCHEDULE ABOUT WHAT'S COMING UP, WHAT WE'RE DOING. I MEAN, SOMETHING PRO I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE COUNCIL. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN DISCUSS THE ENTERPRISE. WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT RIGHT AT THIS TIME, I BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT SHOULD BE BALANCED ALL THE WAY THROUGH. IN YOUR PACKET HAS THREE ENTIRE BUDGETS. YOU WILL HAVE YOUR WATER FUND IS IN THERE. YOUR SOLID WASTE IS IN THERE AND YOUR PLEASURE ISLAND IS ALSO IN THERE. OKAY, BECAUSE THIS IS A DRAFT, I USUALLY DO THE FIRST ONE WITHOUT PAGES PAGE NUMBERS. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE DRAFT THAT YOU GET THIS FRIDAY WILL HAVE PAGE NUMBERS ON IT AS A DRAFT. THANK YOU. SOMEBODY MAKING NOTES ON THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN IT GOES OUT TO THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE THE PAGE NUMBERS ON IT. SO SOMEBODY SHOULD BE MAKING NOTES ON THAT, PLEASE. THE NORMAL WAY THAT I LIKE TO HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR YOU IS LETTING YOU KNOW, JUST IN GENERAL, ALL OF THE 410, WHICH IS YOUR FIRST PAGE, THAT IS ALL OF YOUR WATER AND SEWER. AS FAR AS THE OPERATING IS CONCERNED. THE NEXT PAGE SHOWS THE REVENUES. AND THEN JUST IN BRIEF, YOUR OPERATING AND THEN TOWARDS THE LAST THIRD ARE THE TRANSFERS THAT ARE MADE. DO YOU SEE THAT? THAT'S ON THE SECOND PAGE. SO THE REVENUES ARE ON TOP. YOUR OPERATIONS ARE IN THE MIDDLE. AND THEN THE TRANSFERS THAT ARE MADE ARE ON THE BOTTOM THIRD. OKAY. YEAH. COUNCIL MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU MAYOR, ON ON FRIDAY OR IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THESE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES OR DECREASES OR INCREASES IS GOING TO BE ANNOTATED AND NOTATED BY COLOR CODE, BECAUSE I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT LAST BUDGET BECAUSE IT GIVES THE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY OR TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE GOT A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THIS PARTICULAR FUND. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT? I'M GOING WITH IT. YES, I DO. SO I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT LAST. I'M GOING TO REVIEW THE LAST BUDGET, LAST YEAR, BUT I THINK THAT COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT WE SEE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN OUR BUDGET BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET, I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE AND I'M GOING TO COMPARE FROM APPLES TO APPLES, ORANGES TO. ORANGES. BUT I DO WANT TO SEE A COLOR CODE LIKE YELLOW OR GREEN, LIKE WE DISCUSSED LAST YEAR. IS THAT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE DONE ON THIS BUDGET AS WELL? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. AND LET ME JUST INTERJECT. YES, IT HAS TO BE DONE BECAUSE IT IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR TRANSPARENCY AND FOR READING. THANK YOU. YEAH. ESPECIALLY FOR THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO. YEAH. I HOPE SOMEBODY IS MAKING NOTE OF THAT THOUGH, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. OKAY. I'LL PUT IT UNDER THE PROPOSED. I'LL PUT IT IF THERE'S AN INCREASE. I LIKE GREEN. IF THERE'S A DECREASE, A LIGHT RED. THANK YOU. AND THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE THAT. OKAY. SO THE SECOND PAGE HAS THE REVENUES, YOUR EXPENSES AND THEN YOUR TRANSFERS. AND THEN BEHIND EACH OF THOSE ARE THE DETAILS FOR EACH OF YOUR DIVISIONS IN THE WATER DIVISION. SO THE NEXT ONE IS ADMINISTRATION. I'M JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY GO THROUGH SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE CONTENTS ARE OF YOUR PACKET. THE NEXT ONE IS CUSTOMER SERVICE. AND ALL OF THAT IS AT THE TOP PAGE. IT TELLS YOU WHICH ONE IT IS BY DIVISION. THE NEXT ONE IS WATER PURIFICATION AS A DETAIL. WATER DISTRIBUTION, WATER CONVEYANCE, WASTEWATER TREATMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY SERVICE. NOW IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE ONE, YOU'LL SEE THE ADMINISTRATION, CUSTOMER SERVICE, WATER PURIFICATION. YOU'LL SEE THE SUMMARY ON PAGE ONE. AND THE DETAILS BEHIND THAT SUMMARY ARE THE DETAILS THAT I HAD. JUST LET YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WAS IN EACH DIVISION. AFTER THAT, WE HAVE THE SOLID WASTE IN THE SAME FORMAT AND IN SOLID WASTE. THE DIVISIONS ARE ADMINISTRATION, TRASH COLLECTION, RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION, CONTAINER SERVICE AND LANDFILL OPERATIONS. AGAIN IN THE SAME FORMAT. THE [00:30:08] FOLLOWING PAGE, WHICH JUST SAYS SOLID WASTE HAS THE FIRST THIRD AS ALL OF YOUR REVENUES. YOUR MIDDLE HAS YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS COST. AND THE LAST PIECE ARE YOUR TRANSFERS. AND THEN BEHIND THAT ARE THE DETAILS OF EACH OF THE SOLID WASTE, WHICH IS ADMINISTRATION TRASH COLLECTION. AND AGAIN, IT'S ON THE TOP RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION. CONTAINER SERVICES AND LANDFILL OPERATIONS. THE NEXT FUND IS PLEASURE ISLAND AND THAT IS FUND FOR 50. AND THIS ONE YOU SEE AT THE TOP REVENUES AT THE TOP THERE IN THE MIDDLE, YOU'VE GOT YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. AND ON THE BOTTOM YOU HAVE YOUR TRANSFERS. AND THEN BEHIND EACH OF THOSE, THERE'S YOUR SUMMARY. BY EXPENDITURES. YOU'VE GOT THE SUMMARY BY EXPENSES AND SUMMARY BY DIVISION. AND THERE'S YOUR ADMINISTRATION RV PARK, MARINA, PARKS AND CAPITAL OUTLAY. AND FOLLOWING THAT ARE THE DETAILS BEHIND IT. YOU'LL SEE THE RV PARK, THE MARINA AND PARKS. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE INFORMATION FOR ENTERPRISE AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND TRANSFERS GO AT THIS TIME. SO LET ME JUST ASK A QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER FRANK? YES. LYNN, LET ME ASK A QUESTION. SO I'M GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION AS IT'S COME INTO MY MIND ON THE ENTERPRISE FUND CONCERNING, PLEASURE ISLAND, THE RV PARK. I'M LOOKING AT THAT AND THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR, 2627, IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE HAD PREVIOUSLY. AREN'T WE LOOKING AT SOME CHANGES WITH THE RV PARK, WITH ALL OF THE DREDGING AND ALL OF THAT HAPPENING AND TRANSPIRING ON PLEASURE ISLAND, WE KEPT THIS BUDGET AT A STATUS QUO. AND AS FAR AS THE DREDGING, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE PUT IT IN THIS ONE OR IF IT'S ACTUALLY IN CAPITAL ITSELF. I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE OPERATION OF THE RV PARK. IS THE RV PARK STILL GOING TO BE FUNCTIONING? AND I THINK THE QUESTION IS THE RELOCATION OF THE RV PARK? I THINK WE HAVE PUT THAT IN CAPITAL IT SO THAT THAT WOULD BE IN CAPITAL. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDING THAT WE ARE TO RECEIVE FROM THE, NAVIGATION DISTRICT. YEAH. THE 15 PLUS. YES. SO THAT WOULD BE IN CAPITAL. OKAY. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ONLY THE, IT'S NOT ONLY THE RV PARK, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD INCLUDE THE, THE WALKWAY AS WELL THAT THEY INTEND TO REPLACE ALONG THE, THE SHIP CHANNEL AS WELL AS THE RV PARK, THE WALKWAY. AND I THINK THERE ARE THREE COMPONENTS TO THE PROJECT, BUT THAT WOULD BE IN CAPITAL. OKAY. YEAH. I'M PRETTY SURE THAT, OH, I GOTTA WAIT FOR IT TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED. COUNCILMEMBER GATEWOOD THANK YOU MAYOR. I'M SURE. SO THAT HAPPENED PRIOR TO ME COMING HERE. SO THAT'S WHAT THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT YOU SAID. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE PAYING FOR THAT THAT PROJECT OVER THERE. YES. OKAY. SO RELOCATION. YES. SO THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE RELOCATION IS THERE. IF WE'RE GOING ARE WE GOING TO SEE SOMETHING A BENEFIT FROM THAT IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND. IS THAT GOING TO GENERATE SOME NEW CAPITAL. WELL IT'S THE FUNDING IS CAPITAL FUNDING, BUT THAT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUNDING THAT WE MAKE MONEY OFF OF. SO WITH THEM DOING THE IMPROVEMENTS, WOULD THAT BE A POTENTIAL INCREASE THERE WITHIN THE ENTERPRISE FUND LATER ON? YES. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S A SOURCE OF REVENUE THAT WILL BE COMING IN. YES, YES. SO I WAS JUST ASKING SO THOSE WITH THE WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE OF THE DREDGING, WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT. WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME INCREASES THERE. NO, NO. WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU WILL SEE THE RELOCATION OF OUR RV PARK, WHEN IT'S BEING REPLACED, WILL CONTINUE TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR US. YES, YES FOR YEAH. SO WHAT? SO, OKAY, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT, WHAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS ARE THEY? ARE THEY DOING THERE? THE RELOCATION OF THE RV PARK. OKAY. THEY'RE RELOCATING OUR RV PARK. YES. WHERE THEY'RE RELOCATING IT TO. YEAH. THIS THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HEARING ABOUT THE PROJECT. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. [00:35:04] IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INLAND. OKAY. YES. SO IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE SAME LOCATION. IN THE SAME LOCATION. JUST FURTHER. YES. OKAY. A FEW HUNDRED FEET OR YARDS. SO THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE PRICES THAT WE, THAT WE CHARGE FOR, FOR THOSE PEOPLE STAYING THERE. YES. BECAUSE IT WILL BE A MARKED IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT EXISTED, BUT IT WILL STILL BE WATERFRONT. IT WILL STILL BE A WATERFRONT RV PARK. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING WITH SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, ARE THOSE RATES GOING TO GO UP BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS? VERY LIKELY. OKAY. VERY LIKELY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED BECAUSE IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION WITH A NEW WATERFRONT VIEW. SO THAT THAT'S IT'S VERY LIKELY. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. I KNOW WITH IMPROVEMENTS, JUST LIKE AT A, AT, AT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHEN YOU SEE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, FIXING THE ELEVATOR AND FIXING THE FLOORING, YOU CAN EXPECT AN INCREASE TO HAPPEN. SO I JUST WANTED TO I'M SORRY. OKAY. YEAH. VERY NICE. WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY PUT SOMETHING LIKE THE DREDGING. WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY PUT IT IN THE RV PARK BUDGET AS A DIVISION. IT WOULD COME UNDER THE CAPITAL ONE. OKAY. BUT IT'S STILL A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE, FOR THE EDIFICATION OF THE PUBLIC, AT LEAST, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT. WE'LL GO REVIEW THE CAPITAL PIECE ONE MORE TIME BEFORE WE GET THAT TO YOU. YES. AND I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU CAPITAL A LITTLE BIT SEPARATELY THAN THE REST OF THE BUDGET, BECAUSE THE BUDGET JUST GIVES YOU AN AMOUNT. AND THEN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, THAT ONE IS A WHOLE OTHER DOCUMENT THAT DETAILS EVERY CAPITAL ITEM THAT WE HAVE. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WILL RECEIVE THIS FRIDAY AS WELL. SO NOT ONLY THE NUMBERS, THE CAPITAL IS GOING TO BE PRETTY THOUGH, BUT YOU'LL ALSO GET ALL THE DETAILS FOR THE CAPITAL. YEAH. OOPS. I'M SORRY. I HAVE SEVERAL LIGHTS ON RIGHT NOW. I HAVE COUNCILMAN KINLAW'S LIGHT ON MIAMI MAYOR PRO TEM KINLAW. THANK YOU. MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE OVERVIEW OF THIS THIS ENTERPRISE FUND. BUT MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WORKSHOP, IT'S AN INTERACTION. AND I KNOW YOU MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS OF WHY DEPARTMENTS ARE WANTING OR NEEDING, VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT, THINGS, WHATEVER. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR OVERVIEW. I UNDERSTAND I CAN DO THAT, BUT MY THING IS, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING A WORKSHOP VERSUS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING TODAY, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT A WORKSHOP. YOU JUST GAVE ME AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S IN THIS PACKET. SO THAT'S WHY I KIND OF JOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER EARLIER TODAY. HE SAID, WHERE ARE YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS? YOU KNOW, SO YOU ASKED US TO THUMB THROUGH THIS AND IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO GET BACK WITH YOU THIS FRIDAY WHEN YOU GET EVERYTHING, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT TODAY'S WORKSHOP, WHAT IS THE ASSIGNMENT AND WHAT DO YOU WHAT'S THE EXPECTATION OF COUNCIL WITH THIS PARTICULAR WORKSHOP TODAY? BUT SINCE WE CAN WE PUT IN A CATEGORY, CATEGORIZE THIS AS A WORKSHOP. WHAT ARE YOU WHAT IS THE ASSIGNMENT TODAY? BECAUSE YOUR OVERVIEW IS NOT A WORKSHOP. OH, JUST, JUST A MINUTE. LET ME LET MAYOR PRO TEM FINISH COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. HE HE HAS THE THE LIGHT. I GOT A POINT. I'LL JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND. WELL, WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO TODAY? YEAH. WHOEVER CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY. I THINK WHAT WE EXPECT IS JUST WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO IS WE'RE AS AS REVEREND FRANK HAS ASKED, AND, AND, DON'T, GET. COUNCILMAN GATEWOOD HAS ASKED YOU, YOU, WE HAVE A VERY, A LOT OF INTELLIGENT QUESTIONS BEING ASKED. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THE MONEY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, OF THE RV PARK? THOSE ARE VALID QUESTIONS. AND I THINK IT'S GENERATING A DISCUSSION THAT, NEEDS TO BE HAVE AS SO THAT THE COUNCIL CAN UNDERSTAND AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WHERE THOSE ITEMS GO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD NOT BE FOUND IN THIS DOCUMENT, BUT IT WOULD BE FOUND IN THE DOCUMENT FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUDGET. SO THOSE I THINK THOSE ARE VALID, QUESTIONS THAT HAS BEEN GENERATED AT THIS POINT. SO WHATEVER QUESTIONS I THINK THE EXPECTATION IS WHATEVER QUESTIONS, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE DID GET IT LATE, WHATEVER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE NOW OR LATER THAT WE CONTINUE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE CLARIFICATION, TO THOSE QUESTIONS AND, THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP AT THIS, AT THIS WORKSHOP, AND THEN WE COULD BUILD ON IT FOR THE NEXT WORKSHOP AS WELL. SO, YOU WANT TO FINISH. OKAY. OKAY. SO THE [00:40:08] CITY MANAGER OR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, SO I DON'T HAVE A, YOUR, YOUR WORKSHOP UPDATED, AGENDA. SO WE HAVE THREE MORE WORKSHOPS, TWO MORE, TWO MORE. OKAY. YEAH. SO. LYNN, SO AFTER THIS, I THINK YOU SHOULD GO ON TO DO THE PRESENTATION ON THE TAX RATE AGAIN, BECAUSE AT THE END OF IT, YOU HAVE THE SCHEDULE FOR THE WORKSHOPS THAT YOU DID PRESENT AT THE LAST MEETING. SO IF YOU, IF MAY, IF YOU'D GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER THE TAX RATE AGAIN, START OFF JUST LIKE WE DISCUSSED YESTERDAY, LYNN, WITH ALL THE INFORMATION, JUST LIKE WE DISCUSSED YESTERDAY FOR THE EDIFICATION OF THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL GO, YOU GO OVER IT AGAIN AND AT THE END OF IT YOU HAVE THE. JUST LIKE WE GIVE IT TO THE COUNCIL, YOU HAVE THE SCHEDULES ATTACHED TO IT. OKAY. FOR THE NEXT WORKSHOP. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? MAYOR? MAYOR. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. JONES, WHAT YOU. JUST A SECOND. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT CITY MANAGER FINISHES, AND THEN I'M GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR LIGHT AS SOON AS I GET AN OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. CITY MANAGER, ARE YOU DONE? YES, YES. MAYOR PRO TEM, ARE YOU DONE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, MAYOR. IT'S CONFUSING. IF I WAS HER, I'D BE CONFUSED TOO. TAKE A GENIUS, UNDERSTAND? SHE'S DOING A PRESENTATION WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO THEM. WE INTERRUPT HIM. BACK IN THE PAST, THEY DID A PRESENTATION. WE JOTTED DOWN THE QUESTIONS WE NEEDED AND OUR CONCERNS. AND THEN WE ASKED THESE QUESTIONS. BUT SHE'S SPEAKING ONE THING. QUESTION SPEAKING ONE THING, QUESTION, Y'ALL. I MEAN, YOU WANT A BRANDY? WE WE'RE DOING THIS THING, RIGHT? WE I MEAN, SHE CAN'T CONCENTRATE. SHE GAVE A STATEMENT QUESTION. GIVE A STATEMENT QUESTION. DAVID QUESTION. LET'S LET'S DO A PRESENTATION FOR A PRESENTATION. THEN AT THE END, WE'LL COME BACK AND ASK THE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. COUNCILMEMBER JONES, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I THINK ALL OF US JUST NEED CLARITY ON WHERE WE'RE HEADED FOR TODAY. LET, LET, LET ME FINISH. I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS LOOKING FOR A ALL OF US OR LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR SCHEDULE BY WHICH WHAT WE'RE COVERING TODAY, I DIDN'T HAVE, I, I SAW THIS PROPOSED TAX RATE AT THE LAST MEETING. AND I'M GOING TO JUST CLARIFY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, ALL WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS WHAT WE'RE. WE VOTED ON THE TAX RATE. WE'VE ACCEPTED THE TAX RATE. WE'RE MOVING TO THE WORKSHOP. WHEN YOU GO INTO A WORKSHOP, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO COVER THE INFORMATION ON THE WORKSHOP, WHICH WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO COVER TODAY. WE HAVEN'T COVERED IT TELLING ME TITLES AND WHAT'S ON THE PAGES. I CAN READ THAT, RIGHT. I'M SPECIFICALLY WANTING TO GO THROUGH NUMBERS. FOR ME. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR TODAY. OKAY, SO THAT HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE THAT SHE'S I'M TRYING WITH SHE SAID SHE'S DONE OKAY. SHE SAYS SHE'S DONE. AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT. EXACTLY. SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET CLARITY AND, AND A, AND A FORMAT OR A SCHEDULE ON HOW A SCHEDULE ON HOW THIS IS GOING TO FLOW TODAY. WE DON'T HAVE NONE OF US UP HERE HAVE TIME TO REALLY TAKE OFF AND BE HERE. AND THEN WE JUST CAME FOR VOTING ON TAX RATE NUMBERS. I REALLY WAS LOOKING TO GO THROUGH NUMBERS, OKAY, AND GO THROUGH SOME INFORMATION. SO FOR ME, YES. AND MAYBE I DIDN'T DISCUSS IT CLEARLY AND KNOWING WHAT THE I WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE IN JUST A MINUTE, COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET, I MEAN, MR. DOUCET, LET ME FINISH. SO I'M LOOKING FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. ALL OF US ARE BUSY, BUT I WANT I'M LOOKING FOR NOT JUST VOTING ON THE TAX RATE FOR CLARITY. AND I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M LOOKING FOR A. IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS OR WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WATER AND SEWER FUND, I DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHAT PAGES. I CAN FLIP THE PAGES. WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? THIS IS SAY THE SAME WHAT YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH WHATEVER. SO IF YOU'RE NOT PREPARED FOR THAT TODAY, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW THAT SO THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS, WE DON'T HAVE TWO MORE. WE DON'T HAVE THREE. I CAN ADD ANOTHER MEETING, BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO WASTE OUR WORKSHOP TIME WHEN I WANTED TO DO IS TO GO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AND IF YOU CAME HERE FOR THIS MEETING, YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE'RE PRESENTED, NOT WASTE WORKSHOP TIME. SO WE HAVE ONLY TWO MORE THAT WE PRAYERFULLY CAN COVER THE ENTIRE BUDGET BECAUSE WE'RE IN, SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE BRAND NEW. WE NEED THE TIME TO HAVE IT SPELLED OUT CORRECTLY. I KNOW THAT THE MANAGER IS SAYING YOU NEED TO GO AHEAD AND FINISH THIS, AND THIS WILL OUTLINE THE [00:45:01] SCHEDULE. WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU DO THAT. WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THAT. BUT I, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER MR. DOUCET WILL SPEAK AT THE MIC. BUT CAN YOU PLEASE FINISH WHERE YOU STOPPED HERE SO WE CAN GO ON. YES, MA'AM. ON PAGE FOUR IS THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. AND AT THE VERY BOTTOM IS THE NEW PART, WHICH SHOWS THAT THE PROPOSAL INCREASES 1.7 MILLION FOR GENERAL FUND. AND TO ALSO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE CURRENT TAX RATE METHOD IS ACTUALLY NOT SUSTAINABLE. WITH THE STATE'S RATE CAP. LANE. EXPLAIN TO THE COUNCIL WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE MORE DEPTH TO IT. AS TO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? DOES THAT MEAN FOR NEXT BUDGET THAT'S GOING TO COME TO US? YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS TO ASK FOR AN INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE. DOES IT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AT THE SOMETIME IN THE NEW FINANCIAL YEAR AS TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED IN TERMS OF SEEKING REVENUES FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WITH THE, FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AS IT RELATES TO THE GENERAL FUND, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BREAK IT DOWN IN SIMPLE AND LAYMAN'S LANGUAGE, PLEASE. I THINK THE GRAPH WILL SHOW WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATION HAS DONE AND WHAT IT HAS DONE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR LIMITATION. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SKIP FORWARD THEN TO THE ASSESSED VALUE. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GROWING, THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS CAPPED OUR ABILITY TO GROW. AND ALSO WITH OUR REVENUE. WE HAVE. AND I'M I'M FOR I'M FOR THIS AS WELL. EVEN IN MY OWN HOME, I'M FEELING IT'S NOT GOING. GO RIGHT THERE. I DO WANT TO SHOW YOU, IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE SEVEN, WHEN I WENT OVER THE OVERVIEW OF ECONOMIC CONDITIONS AND JUST TO REMIND YOU THAT THE STATE LEGISLATION CHANGED FOR 2023, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX HAS GONE DOWN. AND I GET THAT THE ASSESSED VALUE WOULD HAVE GONE UP. AND I'M LETTING YOU KNOW THAT AS ASSESSED VALUE GOES UP, IT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE KIND OF GROWTH THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY. AND THE STATE HAS CAPPED OUR ABILITY TO GROW. IF WE GROW 6% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE OR HOWEVER THAT IS, AND WE JUST WANT TO GROW, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CAPTURE THE 6% TO GO FORWARD OR MOVE FORWARD. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE VERY TOP AND THE VERY LEFT, THE TOP ONE THAT SAYS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH IT CONSISTENTLY DECREASES. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'LL TELL ME, WELL, THE ASSESSED VALUE INCREASE. SO YOU KIND OF GET IT OFFSIDES. IT DOESN'T INCREASE BY THE AMOUNT OF INFLATION OR INCREASE IN COSTS OR ANY OTHER LIMITED REVENUE OPTIONS. SO IF THE STATE WANTS US TO GROW AND THEY WANT US TO GIVE INCENTIVES TO BUSINESSES TO COME IN, WE PAY FOR IT NEGATIVELY IF WE WANT TO GIVE AN ABATEMENT AND ALLOW PROPERTY OR ALLOW BUSINESS TO COME IN, AND THEY WANT A LITTLE BIT OF HELP, THAT ACTUALLY AFFECTS OUR COLLECTION OF PROPERTY TAXES. IF I SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET ANOTHER 1.7, BUT THEN WE WANT TO HELP OR ATTRACT BUSINESSES INTO OUR COMMUNITY, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR MAYBE AN ABATEMENT OF THEIR OWN PROPERTY TAXES FOR A FEW YEARS AS AN INCENTIVE TO COME HERE. THAT'S REVENUE THAT WE LOSE, AND WE ALMOST CAN'T AFFORD. THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING SINCE THE LEGISLATION GOT INTO THE BUSINESS OF DICTATING WHAT CITIES CAN AND CANNOT TAX, AND DOING LIMITS. I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH LIMITS, BUT I DO HAVE ISSUES THAT ARE LIMITS WITHOUT REASON. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? [00:50:06] YES. CITY MANAGER LYNN, WITH THE THE GRAPH THAT YOU JUST PRESENTED, THE DATA ON THIS GRAPH IS TODAY'S DATE, THE 5TH OF AUGUST 2026, FOR THE EDIFICATION OF THE COUNCIL AND FOR THE PUBLIC. IS THAT THE SAME GRAPH THAT YOU PRESENTED ON JULY IN JULY? AND IT HASN'T CHANGED? NO, IT DID CHANGE. IT WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I 36%. OKAY. BECAUSE WHAT YOU WERE SHOWING AND AGAIN, WHAT YOU WERE SHOWING, THERE WAS AN EXAMPLE. IT WAS A SAMPLE, IT WAS A SAMPLE. AND NOW THIS IS SOLID. THIS IS THE SOLID. SO AND WE WERE GOING TO GO DOWN AND WE DID GO DOWN. AND MY FEAR IS WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN BELOW POINT SIX. MY FEAR IS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE NEEDS, TAXING OUR SYSTEM, YOUR REQUESTS FOR MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT COSTS. AND MY QUESTION IS, WHERE DID YOU WANT ME TO GET THAT FROM? IF I HAVE THIS AMOUNT THAT I CAN WORK WITH MORE THAN I DID THE YEAR BEFORE TO MAKE IT ALL WORK? YEAH, YOU'RE TELLING ME I HAVE $1.7 MILLION, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW ME TO HAVE BECAUSE OF YOUR STATE CAP, AND YET HEALTH INSURANCE, WHICH WE WANT TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, IS GOING UP PROBABLY MORE THAN I WAS TOLD YESTERDAY. IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN 10%. I'M NOT GETTING 10% MORE. I'M NOT GETTING EVEN THE INCREASE MORE. AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS A CONCERN. I THINK I BROUGHT IT UP TO THE CITY MANAGER LAST YEAR. THE MORE THAT WE GO DOWN, THE LESS THAT I HAVE TO WORK WITH. AND IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT. WHEN YOU GET YOUR BUDGET THIS FRIDAY, I REALLY WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE REVENUE ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TALKING GENERAL FUND. THE OTHER FUNDS, THEY CAN FUND THEMSELVES OR THEIR GRANTS, BUT THE GENERAL FUND IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, WHAT SERVICES WE'RE PROVIDING, OUR PROPERTY TAXES ALONE CAN'T FUND. ONE OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS. IF YOU ADD THE PUBLIC SAFETY, IF YOU LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT IDEAS, BECAUSE PEOPLE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE IDEAS. IF I ADD THEM BOTH TOGETHER, LAW. PUBLIC SAFETY MAY BE THE ONLY DEPARTMENTS I CAN FUND FROM THAT. BASED ON THE CAP PROVIDED AND IMPOSED UPON BY THE STATE. AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. WHEN YOU GO BACK AND YOU SEE OUR STUDY POINT, IF WE WERE STILL AT 0.79, WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. AND THE NEEDS THAT YOU WANT MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT. WE HAD WONDERFUL NEWS ON PUBLIC SAFETY OR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR JUST VERY, VERY RECENTLY. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO FUND MORE OFFICERS. AND IT'S A IT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE WANT OUR CITY TO BE SAFE. IF THEY ASK EVEN FOR FIVE MORE, IT'S GOING TO BE TAXING. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THE REST OF THE SERVICES IS ASKING US TO DO WITH THIS? DO THE SAME THING WITH ALMOST DOUBLE THE MONEY AS WE HAVE BEFORE, AND YOU WANT US TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING. AND I DON'T MEAN YOU. I MEAN THE STATE LEGISLATURE WANTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AND I DEFINITELY WANT TO REALLY HAVE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE EFFECT THAT IT HAS ON OUR ECONOMY. I'M NOT AND WE'RE NOT AUSTIN. WE'RE NOT HOUSTON, WE'RE NOT SAN ANTONIO. JUST BECAUSE THEY MESS UP DOESN'T MEAN YOU GET TO DO A BLANKET HOMESTEAD AND NOT UNDERSTAND THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR OWN CITY. AND THIS IS WHAT THAT DOES. IS IT LIMITED? AND THAT'S WHY I PUT THIS INTO A GRAPH. I UNDERSTAND, AS YOU HAVE MENTIONED, COUNCIL MEMBER KINLAW, BUT MY ASSESSED VALUE HAS GONE UP. CORRECT. YOUR ASSESSED VALUE HAS GONE UP AND MAYBE YOU MIGHT PAY, I DON'T KNOW, $30 MORE THAN YOU DID LAST YEAR FOR THE CITY TAXES. BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT MAYBE YOU MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE BECAUSE OF THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS UP TO 150, 250, THAT'S GOING TO DROP OFF A LOT OF TAX PAYING INTO THIS. IT'S JUST GOING TO GET WORSE FOR US. SO THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO [00:55:01] EXPRESS TO YOU ON OUR PROPOSED TAX. AND THEN REITERATE WHAT THOSE BUDGET DATES ARE. AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE NOT PRETTY VERSION THIS FRIDAY. BUT ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED FOR FOR THE WORKSHOPS COMING UP. OKAY. AND SO LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE HERE ON AUGUST 5TH, WEDNESDAY, CITY COUNCIL PROPOSED BUDGET WORKSHOP. WHAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN HERE, I KNOW WE'RE PAST THAT TIME, BUT COVERING WHAT SUBJECTS, WHAT, WHAT PARTS OF THE BUDGET? AUGUST 12TH, WHAT PARTS OF THE BUDGET ARE RECOVERING? AND THEN AUGUST 17TH, WHAT ARE RECOVERING. SO THAT WILL GIVE US AN OUTLINE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO THAT WE CAN PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION WHEN THOSE TO THAT IN OUR OWN BUDGET AND STUDY AND GO THROUGH THE BUDGET OURSELVES TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO ENCOUNTER, NOT JUST THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, BUT WHAT'S IN THAT WORKSHOP FOR THAT WEEK SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN OUTLINE, I THINK. ARE YOU DONE? THEN I CAN LET COUNCIL MEMBER, I MEAN, MAYOR JESUS. NO, JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION. HAROLD. HAROLD, YOU SAID 5180 CAMBRIDGE STREET, PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS. I SAID YOU'RE NOT LISTENING. BEING IN COUNCIL AND ALSO AS A CITIZEN, I CAN SEE WHERE THE CONFUSION CAME IN TO. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO SKIN A CAT. I THINK IT'S TIME THAT YOU ALL DECIDE WHICH DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO, BECAUSE THE WORKSHOP THAT WE'RE WHAT I'M HEARING THIS MORNING IS BASICALLY THINGS THAT MAY BE A PROBLEM OR MAY BE OCCURRING TO CONSIDER IN THE NEXT BUDGET BEFORE YOU GET A PROPOSED BUDGET. THOSE ARE WORKSHOPS THAT CAN BE CONDUCTED. OH, IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN MONTH AGO, TWO MONTHS AGO. AT THAT TIME, YOU'RE GIVING YOUR INPUT TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY MANAGER AND FINANCE DIRECTOR DO WITH YOUR BUDGET, WHETHER WE WANT TO LOOK FOR REDUCTIONS, WHETHER THIS IS TOO HIGH, HOW TAXING GOING TO DO IT. BECAUSE NOW WHEN WE GET INTO THESE TYPE WORKSHOPS WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, I MYSELF, I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN THIS AS A PROPOSAL BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A PROPOSAL IN THE BUDGET. AND THOSE ARE NORMALLY POSTED WHEN THOSE ARE POSTED, CITIZENS LIKE MYSELF WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO QUESTION SOME OF THE THINGS WE SEE IN A PROPOSED BUDGET, PLEASURE ISLAND, FOR AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT LAND SALE 4 MILLION. WELL, RIGHT AT 5 MILLION ESTIMATED FOR LAST YEAR. AND ALSO YOU'RE PROPOSING GETTING $5 MILLION FOR LAND SALE. YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. WHEN YOU PUT THAT TYPE NUMBER, YOU GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING, THERE IN THE BUDGET OR SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL AND CITIZENS TO SEE THAT YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE $5 MILLION IN REVENUE, THE RV PART, THE PROJECTED COST THAT YOU PROJECTING REVENUE FOR RV PARK. AND I'M JUST GLANCING AT THIS AND NOT GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE ENTERPRISE. THAT'S JUST THAT YOU'RE PROJECTING SO MUCH MONEY FOR THE RV PARK, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE REDUCED SO THAT FUNDING IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME AS IT BEEN. SO I THINK IT'S RIGHT NOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT? YOU CAN'T COME TO A WORKSHOP AND WANT TO START HAVING SOME INPUT ON THE BUDGET, OR YOU CAN'T HAVE STAFF EXPLAINING TO YOU THE BUDGET, BECAUSE AS A CITIZEN, I SIT BACK THERE WHERE YOU ARE FOR MANY YEARS. IT'S HARD TO DO THAT. YOU HAVE TO COME KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. AND DADDY, DADDY LOSE TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AND WHAT PORTION OF IT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT THOROUGHLY. BUT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE HAVING A PRESENTATION ABOUT TAXES, THE IMPACT OF IT AND FUTURE COST AND EVERYTHING. BUT THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET. AND I'M NOT SAYING DO SOMETHING LIKE ANOTHER CITY, BUT EXAMPLES CAN BE FOUND IN OTHER CITY. BEAUMONT COMPLETED THEIR SEVENTH WORKSHOP ON A BUDGET, AND HE AND YOU HEARD IT ON THE NEWS. EACH TIME THEY HAD A WORKSHOP, THEY WERE LETTING CITIZENS KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE THIS BUDGET, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. I'M NOT SAYING DO IT THAT WAY, BUT I'M SAYING YOU GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. SO WHEN YOU COME AND COUNCIL AND CITIZENS, IF WE DON'T GET SOMETHING IN ADVANCE, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A LOT OF QUESTIONS UP HERE TODAY. AND ANY DAY YOU PUBLIC HEARING, IF [01:00:01] IT DON'T GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO US, WE'RE GOING TO COME UP HERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND BE LIKE STARTING THE WHOLE CYCLE AGAIN. THAT'S JUST MY POINT ON IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER GATEWOOD, YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SIMPLY JUST ASK TO SEE, BEING THAT TODAY WAS TODAY, IF WE COULD SCHEDULE ANOTHER BUDGET MEETING, WORKSHOP, AND TAKE THE REST OF THE TIME THAT WE HAVE TODAY, NOW THAT THE PRESENTATION IS DONE TO GO OVER AS A COUNCIL, WHAT WE WANT TO SEE AND WHAT THE OUTLINE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD SO WE CAN HAVE A SOLIDIFIED TYPE OF IDEA OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO MANEUVER THROUGH THESE, THESE NEXT FEW BUDGET MEETINGS. BUT JUST WITH HOW TODAY WENT RECTIFYING THAT, SOLIDIFYING AND MOVING FORWARD, STARTING AFRESH WITH THE NEW BUDGET WORKSHOP AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE SAID INITIATIVES THAT WE SET OFF TODAY. COUNCILMEMBER FRANK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS, WHAT I WANT TO SEE IN OUR WORKSHOP AND ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US IS IF, FOR SURE WE DID LOOK AT THE BUDGET IN TERMS OF WHAT REDUCTIONS DO HAVE TO BE MADE. I WANT TO BE SURE THAT THE, CITY MANAGER AND, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAVE TALKED TO DEPARTMENT HEADS AS WELL AND LOOKED AT THE BUDGET BEFORE COMING AND SEEING IN WHAT, IN WHAT AREAS WE CAN MAKE SOME REDUCTIONS SINCE, SINCE OUR, CFO HAS MADE THE COMMENT, THAT THE PROPERTY TAX SITUATION AND THE LEVYING OF THOSE TAXES WILL NOT SUPPORT AND SUSTAIN, SUSTAIN US, THEN IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT SOME PLACES OF REDUCTION. AND I THINK IT BEGINS, INTERDEPARTMENTALLY, LOOKING AT THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SCOURED AND LOOKED AND SEEN WHERE THEY CAN MAKE SOME REDUCTIONS AS WE ARE GOING FORWARD. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE IN SEEING WHERE WE ARE. ALSO, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OTHER AREAS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO AND LOOKING TOWARD IN OUR ENTERPRISE FUND IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING AT THE LANDFILL AND ALL OF THAT. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MONIES THAT THAT'S GOING TO BRING IN, BUT THOSE MONIES WILL JUST BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED AT THE LANDFILL, RIGHT? YES, JUST JUST AT THE LANDFILL. SO, SEEING THAT IT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND. YEAH. BECAUSE IT IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. SO THAT THAT DOESN'T HELP US, OVERALL IN OUR, IN OUR AREA OF GENERAL FUND. SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT BEFORE WE COME BACK TO THE WORKSHOP AND AS WE ARE LOOKING AT IT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PLACES AND POINTS OF REDUCTION. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M SORRY. CITY MANAGER. YEAH. SO, I THINK IT'S CLEAR EV AND LYNN, THE COUNCIL IS ASKING YOU TO IDENTIFY FOR OUR NEXT BUDGET. BASED ON WHAT? LET ME START WITH COUNCILMAN FRANK. FIRST. HE'S SAYING IS LET US IDENTIFY THE CHANGES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE IN THE GENERAL FUND AS IT RELATES TO ADMINISTRATION AND OPERATIONS, BECAUSE WE HAVE MENTIONED IN. WE HAVE STATED VERY CLEARLY TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC. WE ARE DOING A STATUS QUO BUDGET. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE NEED TO SHOW WHATEVER CHANGES, EVEN IF IT'S A STATUS QUO. WHATEVER MY NEW CHANGES THEY ARE FROM LAST YEAR, FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR TO THE NEXT CURRENT YEAR, WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT IT. I E WE ARE PROPOSING SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR NEW STAFF, WHAT IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THE GENERAL FUND AS WE CONTINUE TO, AS A PRIORITY FOR COUNCIL IN CODE ENFORCEMENT, TO HAVE NEW BOOTS ON THE GROUND AS WE CONTINUE TO ADOPT NEW ORDINANCES, WHAT IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE. SO YOU WILL SEE AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF STAFF. WE ARE ASKING TO COME ON AS WELL. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR. YES, IN VERY SIMPLE FORM TOO. AND IN TERMS OF THE THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT YOU HAVE JUST PRESENTED, I THINK YOU NEED TO REITERATE AS WELL. WE NEED TO REITERATE. WE NEED TO REITERATE AS WELL. THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATION PURPOSES. HOWEVER, WHATEVER CHANGES THAT ARE BEING REFLECTED IN THE ADMINISTRATION PART OF IT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE, THE, THE, [01:05:07] THE, CAPITAL PART OF IT TO SEE WHAT PROJECTS BECAUSE AS A RESULT OF SOME PROJECTS THAT WE MAY BE BRINGING IN, WE MAY BE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE IN ADMINISTRATION TO ADMINISTER THOSE PROJECTS. SO COUNCIL NEEDS TO SEE THAT AS WELL, I.E. IF THERE ARE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. WELL, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE LANDFILL, AS REVEREND FRANK INDICATED. YOU KNOW, IS THERE GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN PERSONNEL FOR OPERATING PURPOSES FOR THAT SORT OF THING? SO WE GET IT. WE GET IT. NOW LET'S GET TO COUNCILMAN GATEWOOD. AS HE STATED, WE NEED TO HAVE THE CLARITY IN TERMS OF PRESENTATION, AND WE NEED TO LAY IT OUT AS TO HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET THERE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILMAN GATEWOOD. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK WE GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. KEEP TURNING MY LIGHT ON. ALL RIGHT. IF WE'RE DONE FOR TODAY, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. SO MOVED. SECOND IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, MAYOR. ARE WE NOT GOING TO ESTABLISH A SOLIDIFIED AGENDA FOR THE NEXT WORKSHOP OR AND SEE IF WE CAN POTENTIALLY ADD ANOTHER DATE. I THINK THE STAFF IS IS HANDLING THAT, AM I CORRECT? OKAY. SO ARE WE GOING ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADD ANOTHER DATE IN SPITE OF TODAY? WELL, YEAH, LET'S GO THROUGH THE NEXT TWO AND JUST SEE HOW WE GO. AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS ADD ANOTHER DATE I DID LAST YEAR. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. THE AYES HAVE IT. WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 11:09 A.M. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.