ARE WE READY TO GO OR WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH IT? ARE WE ALRIGHT? ALRIGHT. WE READY? [1. Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance.] [00:00:07] ALRIGHT. WELL GUYS THANK YOU. AND, AND TO THOSE THAT'S OUT THERE LISTENING, I'M SORRY ABOUT THE DELAY. WE HAD SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES AND WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK ON IT AT THIS TIME. WE'RE GOING TO DO JUST AUDIO. TODAY IS FEBRUARY THE 19TH, 2026. THE TIME IS 222 AT THE PORT ARTHUR CITY HALL, FIFTH FLOOR. THE ACTUAL ADDRESS IS 4444 STREET, PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, 77640. THIS MEETING WOULD ALSO BE HELD BY TELEPHONIC AND VIDEO CONFERENCE. IN ADDITION TO ALLOWING THE PERSONS IN ATTENDANCE, A QUORUM OF THE BOARD WILL BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. FIFTH FLOOR. CITY HALL, 444 FOURTH STREET, PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS. THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE NEXT TIME IN PERSON OR VIA ZOOM BY DIALING IN ONE OF THE FOLLOWING TOLL FREE NUMBERS AND ENTER THE MEETING ID, WHICH IS 89289562847, AND THE PASSCODE OF 660236. IF YOU WANT TO DIAL IN ON AUDIO, THE NUMBER IS 87785352477. THAT IS US TOLL FREE. THIS MEETING IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO DISCUSS AND ADOPT SUCH ORDERS, RESOLUTIONS AND OR MOTIONS TO TAKE DIRECT AND INDIRECT ACTIONS THAT MAY BE NECESSARY. INCONVENIENCE DESIRABLE WITH RESPECT TO THE FOLLOWING MATTERS. WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE AGENDA AS PRINTED. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALLEGIANCE. AND AFTER THAT, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW OUR AGENDA. AND WE HAVE TEN BULLET POINTS AT THIS TIME. I'M GOING TO ASK MAYOR CHARLOTTE MARIE MOSES TO DO THE INVOCATION, AND THEN I'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND WE'LL CONDUCT THE MEETING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WITH BOW, PLEASE, FATHER GOD, IN THE NAME OF JESUS, WE THANK YOU, OH, GOD, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF PORT ARTHUR. WE THANK YOU, OH, GOD, FOR THIS COLLABORATIVE MEETING. AND THANK YOU, OH, GOD, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US TO CONTINUE TO DO OUR BEST IN PORT ARTHUR, TO SEE BUSINESS GROW, TO SEE THINGS COME TO OUR CITY. OH, GOD, THAT WE'VE NOT SEEN BEFORE. AND TO EXPAND THIS ENTIRE AREA. WE'RE BLESSED. AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. WE PRAY RIGHT NOW, AND THANK YOU FOR COACH GAMBLE'S SERVICE TO OUR CITY. WE THANK YOU. RIGHT NOW WE STAND WITH HIM AND GIVE OFFER OUR CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY. WITH THE PASSING OF HIS WIFE, MRS. MARGARET GAMBLE. BUT GOD, WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE HIM IN THE PALM OF YOUR HANDS. HE AND HIS FAMILY, WE THANK YOU FOR PEACE AND WE THANK YOU FOR STRENGTH. IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. NEXT D, WOULD YOU ESTABLISH A QUORUM AND CALL [2. Establishment of quorum and call to order.] TO ORDER? YES. THOMAS KINLAW, COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, CHAIRMAN. PRESENT. DONALD R FRANK, COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. CHARLOTTE MOSES, MAYOR, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. HERE. JOSEPH GUILLORY, TWO, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT TWO, JEFFERSON COUNTY, PRESENT. JAMES GAMBLE, COMMISSIONER, JEFFERSON COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN JOSEPH JOHNSON, COMMISSIONER, SABINE, NECHES, NAVIGATION DISTRICT PRESENT. RANDY T MARTIN, COMMISSIONER, PORT OF PORT ARTHUR NAVIGATION DISTRICT. YEAH. OKAY. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE [3. Approval of Minutes from the previous Downtown Tax Reinvestment Zone TIRZ #1 Board Meeting held on Thursday, October 24, 2024, at 2:30 p.m.] QUORUM. THANK YOU. D NEXT, WE HAVE AN AGENDA NUMBER THREE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS DOWNTOWN TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE. NUMBER ONE BOARD MEETING HELD ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 24TH, 2020. THAT SHOULD BE 25, RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. 25 AT 2:30 P.M. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MEETING? MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE. CHAIRMAN. SECOND. SECOND IS MOTION IS SECOND THAT WE ACCEPT THE MEETING. NOTES. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED THE MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED. NEXT, WE ARE WORKING ON WELCOMING OUR [4. Welcoming of the new Board Member from the City of Port Arthur City Council, Mayor Charlotte Moses.] NEW BOARD MEMBER FROM THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. AND THAT WOULD BE CHARLOTTE. CHARLOTTE MOSES. LET'S GIVE HER A HAND, GUYS, AND THANK HER FOR ALLOWING HERSELF TO BE ON THIS. AND [00:05:03] WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. OH. OH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN KINLAW. I AM EXCITED TO BE BACK ON THE BOARD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT OUR COLLABORATION TOGETHER WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF PORT ARTHUR AND THE HEADS OF PORT ARTHUR. I'M IN HERE WITH SOME DISTINGUISHED MEN. THANK YOU. ABOVE, ALL OVER PORT ARTHUR. SO I'M JUST HONORED TO BE HERE, GLAD TO BE BACK AND HELPING MAKE THINGS HAPPEN IN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND JUST FOR FYI, CHARLOTTE WAS WHEN WE ACTUALLY STARTED AGAIN, WHAT, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, MAYBE SIX YEARS AGO. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE WE HADN'T HAD A TERRORIST IN A LONG TIME. AND SHE WAS ONE OF THE GRANDFATHERS, GRANDMOTHERS OF THIS CHURCH BACK IN THE DAY. SO THANK YOU. AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME HER [5. Report from the Finance Director regarding the Downtown Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ #1) financial budget.] BACK TO THE TOURIST BOARD NEXT FINANCIAL REPORT FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR REGARDING THE DOWNTOWN TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE TURNS NUMBER ONE FINANCIAL BUDGET, MISS LYNN. PUT YOUR MIC ON, MISS LYNN. OH. ABOUT PAMELA. SEE IF SHE CAN HELP HER OUT. NO, NO. AND WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT, BOARD MEMBERS, LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. OH. GOOD AFTERNOON. NO. YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. YEAH, I HANDED OUT. I HOPE EVERYONE HAS THE COPY OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. 2025 2026 BUDGET. DOES EVERYONE HAVE A COPY? YES. SO THE CURRENT STATE OF THE FINANCES ARE ON THE ACTUAL SIDE. IT'S THE LAST COLUMN. AND WE'VE HAD NO EXPENDITURES THUS FAR. WE'VE COLLECTED ALL OF OUR REVENUE. YOU CAN ALSO SEE FROM THE REVENUE HOW IT CHANGED DRAMATICALLY FROM 24 TO 25, AND THEN FROM 25 TO 26. I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, BOARD MEMBER JOHNSON. YES. WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE? SUCH A WE HAD NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THERE AND THEY FINALLY MADE IT ONTO OUR TAX ROLL. GREAT, GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BOARD MEMBERS? WELL WE GOT AND IT SEEMS TO GET THERE. AND YOU DID PROMISE US THAT LYNN THAT IT WILL JUMP. BUT I THINK THAT IS OUR JOB IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO DECIDE ON WHAT TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. I REMEMBER CITY MANAGER, IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN, WE WE TALKED ABOUT FIRE HYDRANTS. WE TALKED ABOUT FIBER OPTICS. YOU REMEMBER AS SOME OF THE GOALS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT NOW WE CAN START REALLY PUTTING OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND FIGURING OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE FUNDING, THE PEOPLE'S FUNDING. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? MAYOR CHARLOTTE MOSES, THANKS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M JUST A STATEMENT IS THAT I'M THANKFUL THAT WE WE SEE SOME MONEY HERE BECAUSE WHEN WE STARTED TOURS, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE REMEMBER JOE, I CAN'T EVEN THINK. BUT WE HAD NO MONEY. WE HAD $0. WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WAS GOING TO COME TOGETHER. BUT WITH THE EXPERTISE OF ART. AND WE CAN SEE NOW WHAT THE VISION WAS FOR TOURS AND MAN TO COME BACK AND SEE THERE'S SOME MONEY HERE IS JUST, JUST AWESOME. BECAUSE BACK THEN ALL WE HAD WAS A VISION AND TO TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF PORT ARTHUR COME TOGETHER AND WORK TOWARD THE COMMON GOOD AND HELP WITH OUR DOWNTOWN. SO I THINK IT'LL GET BIGGER AND BETTER OVER THE OVER TIME. BUT I'M JUST REALLY ELATED TO COME BACK TO THIS MEETING AND SEE SOME DOLLARS ON THIS PAPER, BECAUSE BEFORE IT WAS 5000 OR A FEW DOLLARS. BUT THANKFUL FOR THE WORK THAT THE TEAM OF THESE TEAM OF COMMISSIONERS AND ALL OF THE LEADERS OF PORT ARTHUR HAVE MADE TOWARD THE BOARD. THANK YOU, MAYOR, CITY MANAGER. YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE CHANGE. I KNOW THAT FURTHER ON IN ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF LOOKING AT GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. I WOULD JUST RESPECTFULLY ADVISE THE BOARD. MAYBE WE COULD CONSIDER THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WE COULD FOLLOW. WE COULD LAY IT OUT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AS TO WHAT WE COULD DO, A PLAN THAT WE COULD GO BY. BECAUSE I [00:10:04] THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS ART SPOKE TO US ABOUT WHEN HE WAS HERE. SO I THINK MAYBE THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, AS WE CONTINUE TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, IS TO DEVELOP THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, USE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT MONEY, YOU KNOW, TO DEVELOP THE PLAN AND ADOPT THE PLAN BY THE BOARD. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD START FOR THE BOARD. BUT I'M OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. BOARD. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? YOU WANT TO CHIME IN. I'LL CHIME IN. I THINK EVERYTHING HAS TO HAVE A PLAN AND SOMETHING TO FOLLOW. SO JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN WITH WITH DOWNTOWN PLAN, DOWNTOWN PLAN FOR PORT ARTHUR AND THEN A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CITY. I THINK ONCE YOU HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, WE CAN HAVE A FOOTPRINT OF WHERE WE NEED TO GO. UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN SOMETHING ALREADY DONE. BUT I THINK A PLAN WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE BOARD. YOU KNOW, JUDGE GUILLORY, WHAT TYPE OF PROJECTS WOULD BE CONSIDERED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT? PUT YOUR MIC ON IT. ANYTHING THAT WOULD IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE DISTRICT. AS THE CHAIRMAN INDICATED, WE HAD ONCE LOOKED AT FIRE HYDRANTS. YOU COULD LOOK AT SIDEWALKS, STREETS, WATER, WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED IN THE DISTRICT CAN BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. YOU KNOW, LIGHTING AS WELL. YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO THAT. AND IT'S IT WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE THE BUILDINGS FROM MOTIVA BEING COMPLETED, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY FOR REVENUES, TAX REVENUES, YOU KNOW. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD THAT WE PLAN ALONG THOSE LINES. AND AS AT TULANE, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT CAUTIOUS AND PATIENT. THIS THING IS GROWING AND TAKING ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN. BUT AS THE AS THE REVENUES CONTINUE TO INCREASE, IT WILL ALLOW US AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE HAVE A PLAN TO GO OUT THERE AND DO MUCH MORE FORMIDABLE WORK IN THE THIRD DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PLANNING THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF WE LEVERAGING THAT FUNDING TO GO OUT AND GET CREDIT WHERE WE CAN RAISE A FEW MILLIONS OF FIVE, $10 MILLION, YOU KNOW, BUT IF WE HAVE A PLAN THAT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FROM PROJECT TO PROJECT FOR THE FUTURE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, MAY I SUGGEST THAT MAYBE THE BOARD CONSIDER SOME TYPE OF THINK TANK SESSION WHERE WE CAN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THROW AROUND SOME IDEAS AND, AND EVEN BRING BACK MAYBE SOME CITIZENRY SUGGESTIONS JUST TO JUST A THOUGHT. OKAY. CITY ATTORNEY, I THINK MY NAME IS ROXANNE COTRONEO. I'M YOUR CITY ATTORNEY. AND I THINK THAT EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD IS WELL AND TRUE. SOME OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE OR UTILITIES, STREETS, STREET LIGHTS, WATER, SEWER FACILITIES, PEDESTRIAN MALLS AND PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS, PARKS, FLOODING, DRAINAGE, PARKING FACILITIES. THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT SOON. AND EVEN BUILDING FACADES. AND AGAIN, AS MR. BERT MENTIONED, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT YOU HAVE CREDIT POWER. THAT'S GOOD. AND MAYBE WHEN YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THEIR CREDIT POWER, YOU'VE GOT MONEY COMING IN. IT TAKES ABOUT WHAT, $15,000 PER MONTH PAYMENT FOR $1 MILLION ABOUT THAT. THAT'S A GOOD WAY FOR ME TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT. SO YOU'VE GOT MONEY COMING IN, GUARANTEED MONEY COMING IN. THAT IS CREDIT POWER. AND I'LL LEAVE THE THE [6. Discussion and possible action regarding short-term goals and objections.] FINANCING TO THE FINANCING PEOPLE, BUT DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THAT. SO, CHAIRMAN, IF YOU'RE READY FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM I'LL PROCEED. SURE. SO WE'RE GOING WITH THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM WILL BE DISCUSSING AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SHORT TERM GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. SURE. ALL RIGHT. I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA FOR US TO HAVE A THINK TANK. I ALSO THINK THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER PERHAPS A CONSULTANT THAT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE AGENDA. BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE'VE STOPPED AT THE CITY. WE'VE BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU WAS FIBER OPTICS. YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO INTO MANY OF THESE FANCY DOWNTOWNS, ALL THEIR CABLES ARE UNDERGROUND, RIGHT? YOU DON'T SEE ALL THOSE WIRES HANGING OUT. WELL, HERE'S A GOOD SHORT TERM GOAL THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED. [00:15:06] AND WE'RE SEEING IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE MAP, THE BLUE IDENTIFIED PROPERTY TRACKS THERE ARE OWNED BY THE CITY, AND THE YELLOW ONES ARE ACTUALLY OWNED BY MOTIVA. SO WE WERE TRYING TO TAKE A LOOK. WE KNOW THAT MOTIVA HAS PUT THEIR CABLE UNDERGROUND. AND SO WE WERE LOOKING AT A WAY TO QUICKLY GET CABLE UNDERGROUND FOR OUR CITY. SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A RED LINE MAGICALLY APPEAR. THAT IS AN ALLEYWAY BETWEEN TWO MAJOR STREETS. THAT ARE GOING TO BE CONDUIT PLACED UNDER THE GROUND FOR FIBER OPTICS TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE'RE EXPECTING A JUNE END DATE. SO THOSE WIRES YOU SEE ARE GOING UNDER. THAT'S COSTING A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS. BY THE WAY, WE'VE GOT THAT FUNDING FROM AN ADA GRANT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? COUNCIL MEMBER KINLAW, BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL SHORT TERMS. IN JUST A FEW MINUTES ON THE AGENDA, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL HAS PUT INTO PLACE THAT ARE GOING TO BE HELPFUL IN TERMS OF GATHERING INFORMATION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS. SO AT THIS POINT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU, CHAIRMAN, AND IF YOU CAN TELL US HOW TO PROCEED. OKAY. THANK YOU, CITY CITY ATTORNEY GUYS. AND I THINK THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS UP HERE ARE, YOU KNOW, STATED AS WELL AS THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT A THINK TANK OR WHERE WE WANT TO GO. I THINK FIBER OPTICS IS A THAT'S A HUGE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DOWNTOWN IN OUR AREA, AND THAT'S GOING TO DRAW INVESTORS TO WANT TO COME DOWNTOWN. AND THAT'S OUR GOAL TO, YOU KNOW, WANT TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS LOOK AT OUR DOWNTOWN COLLECTIVELY. SO I GUESS NOW, I KNOW IN THE PAST, WE'VE ASKED BOARD MEMBERS TO COME UP WITH SOME SHORT TERM GOALS VERSUS LONG TERM GOALS AND WHAT WOULD BE VALID ENOUGH TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO TERMS BOUNDARY. I REMEMBER ART USED TO SAY ALL THE TIME, YOU YOU CAN'T PUT MORE THAN ONE EGG IN THE BASKET. AND THAT WAS HIS LITTLE SLOGAN. AND WE MISS HIM. AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS HE USED TO SAY, I GUESS. GIVE ME SOME SUGGESTIONS. BOARD MEMBERS. ARE WE WANTING TO STILL KIND OF HEAD THAT WAY WITH THE GOALS? OR WE WANT TO HAVE THIS THINK TANK OR WE WANT TO HAVE THIS? AS THE CITY MANAGER SUGGESTED, COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF CIP. WHAT DO WE WANT TO GO WITH IT? COMMISSIONER RANDY MARTIN, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD DO THE THINK TANK FIRST, SO WE CAN HAVE SOME IDEAS TO GIVE TO WHOEVER THE CONSULTANT IS THAT WE HIRE. SO WE SHOULD SCHEDULE A TIME FOR THE THINK TANK. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. YES, I THINK THINK TANK WOULD BE REALLY GOOD IN A IN IN A WAY OF BLENDING WHAT THE CITY IS DOING RIGHT NOW AND SO THAT WE CAN COMPLEMENT THE TOURISTS, CAN COMPLIMENT WHAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO TO DO. SO WITH THAT, WE CAN DISCUSS ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WERE PROPOSED HERE TODAY AND, YOU KNOW, JUST AND AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN ONE THINK TANK, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT. BUT IN TERMS OF PLANNING AND PREPARATION AND BEING ABLE TO BLEND AND COORDINATE WITH WHAT THE CITY'S DOING, SO THE TOURS WON'T BE, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE DOING DOUBLE DUTY ON CERTAIN PROJECTS. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY SUGGESTION FOR THE THINK TANK. YES. WELL, I KNOW THAT EACH OF YOU SERVE VERY IMPORTANT ROLES IN OUR CITY. I THINK THAT ONE OF THE COOLEST THINGS ABOUT THE TOURS IS THAT YOU DO REPRESENT SUCH MASSIVE, POWERFUL ENTITIES AND THE ENTITIES THAT YOU REPRESENT WHILE SERVING ON THIS TOURS COLLECTIVELY FOR THE CITY IS IMPORTANT FOR SYNERGY, AS YOU MENTIONED. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THAT YOU ARE DOING INDIVIDUALLY WITH YOUR ENTITIES THAT YOU CAN BRING, THAT WE CAN CAPITALIZE AND BRING TOGETHER, IF YOU WILL. SO I THINK TANK IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT. AND WITH THAT, I WOULD EXPECT FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO DO FOR DOWNTOWN AND WHAT THE PORT'S TRYING TO GET ACCOMPLISHED, BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTY IS IN OUR DOWNTOWN TOURS AND EVEN [00:20:02] WHAT THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT WANTS TO DO, SIMPLE THINGS THAT COULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU TRAVEL, YOU SEE BIG AREAS OF WATER THAT LOOK LIKE JUST DETENTION PONDS OR SOME KIND OF LEFTOVER WATER THAT DIDN'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO GO. AND I'VE SEEN HOW EVEN JUST FACADES OF OF STREAMING WATER BLOWING UP MAKES SOMETHING LOOK SO MUCH BETTER. AND SO I KIND OF WONDER, COULD THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT HELP DO THAT TO MAKE SOME OF THE AREA LOOK BEAUTIFUL? MAYBE. MAYBE NOT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S THE BRAINSTORMING THAT'S THE CAPACITY. AND IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US THE DIRECTION TO SCHEDULE A THINK TANK, WE CERTAINLY WILL DO THAT FOR THE TOURS AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE UPCOMING MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION RIGHT NOW WE WANT TO GO. IS THE AM I WRONG OR OKAY A THINK TANK. IF WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT WHERE WE CAN COME TOGETHER, A MEETING OF THE MINDS AND DECIDE SHORT TERM VERSUS LONG TERM GOALS. AND SO WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY GIVE TO A CONSULTANT IF WE CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE. BUT WE WANT TO START GETTING THAT IN ORDER NOW. SO I THINK IF YOU CAN SCHEDULE THAT OR YOUR STAFF AND TEAM, IF YOU CAN TAKE ACTION, SIR, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET THAT UNDERWAY. OKAY. RIGHT NOW, SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE ON THE FLOOR AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON IT. SURE. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SCHEDULE A MEETING FOR A THINK TANK TO PREPARE A PLAN OF ACTION FOR THE BOARD. AS FAR AS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, CAN I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND IT'S MOVED. AND SECOND, THAT WE CONTINUE WITH THE THINK TANK. AND TO HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN ALONG WITH THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I THOSE OPPOSED. IT'S BEEN PASSED THAT [7. Discussion and possible action to issue Request For Qualifications for Downtown Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ#1) Consultant.] WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A THINK TANK NEXT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO NUMBER SEVEN DISCUSS AND POSSIBLE ACTIONS TO ISSUE REQUESTS FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR DOWNTOWN TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE. NUMBER ONE CONSULTANT, YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT CITY ATTORNEY. YES, CHAIRMAN. OF COURSE, I AM ABLE TO GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE, AND WE CERTAINLY KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE CITY MANAGER AND OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT ABLE TO TRACK YOUR FINANCES. BUT I REALLY THINK WE NEED A CONSULTANT. AND THERE ARE SO MANY REALLY GOOD ONES AROUND THE STATE THAT WORK IN THIS SPECIFIC CAPACITY TO HELP GRAB AND CAPTURE YOUR AUTHORITY AND YOUR POWER, AND TO MAKE IT FEED INTO A PLAN FOR ACTUAL ACTION. SOMETIMES YOU CAN PLAN FOREVER. SOMETIMES YOU JUST NEED TO ACT. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED SOME MORE, MORE ADVICE THAT ARE PROBABLY OUTSIDE OF MY REALM OF LEGAL EXPERTISE OR CITY MANAGER'S EXPERTISE. AND SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR PERMISSIONS TO GO OUT FOR AN RFQ. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIRE ANYONE, BUT YOU CERTAINLY WILL GET SOME RFQS IN TO SEE WHAT QUALIFICATIONS ARE. MAYBE THEY CAN HELP BRAINSTORM AND GET YOU EXCITED ABOUT THE NEXT STEP WITH WITH THE TOURS. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. WELL, WITH THAT IN MIND, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETS HERE, CONSULTANTS DON'T COME CHEAP. SO IN IN MY EXPERIENCE. SO WHAT TYPE OF BUDGET DO WE HAVE FOR CONSULTING WORK OR CONSULTANT WORK. ALL RIGHT. AS THE FINANCIAL DIRECTOR COME UP. GOOD AFTERNOON. THE AMOUNT THAT YOU HAVE I ALL I DID IS JUST PLACE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. 102,642 AS A CONTINGENCY. YOU DO HAVE A HIGHER BALANCE THAN THAT. BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT I HAD PUT I PUT IN EXACTLY THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT YOU RECEIVED. I DIDN'T PUT ANY FUND BALANCE FROM PREVIOUSLY. IF YOU WANT TO AMEND THE BUDGET, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO AMEND IT ALL THE WAY UP TO $279,000. AND I JUST WANT TO CAUTION THAT ANNUAL PAYMENTS RIGHT NOW ARE RUNNING JUST OVER 100,000 A YEAR. SO WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. RIGHT? RIGHT. THANK YOU. LAND, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, JUST LOOKING AT THIS, AT ONE TIME WE DISCUSSED YOU HAVE OPERATIONS, PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, TRANSFER TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND CONTINGENCY. AND IS IT THE BOARD'S IS IT MY [00:25:03] UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BOARD HAS TO ALLOCATE THOSE FORWARD TOPICS AND PUT FUNDING IN THAT YOU. YES, IT WOULD COME FROM CONTINGENCY. SO IT WAS AS YOU WISH. AND AT THAT TIME THERE WASN'T A DECISION. SO I PUT THAT INTO CONTINGENCY. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, I'LL JUST TAKE IT OUT OF CONTINGENCY AND PUT IT IN THE APPROPRIATE CATEGORIES THAT YOU NEED IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? NO, NO THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. CONSULTANT, I GUESS WE WANT TO. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. GUYS, WE WANT TO HAVE THIS THINK TANK BEFORE WE START CONSIDERING THE CONSULTANT, OR WE WANT TO JUST HAVE IT GO OFF, GO OUT FOR RFQ AND HAVE IT IN PLACE WHERE WE CAN KIND OF KNOCK TWO, TWO BIRDS OUT. WHAT DO YOU THINK, CITY MANAGER? I MEAN, LET'S TALK. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER MARTIN, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD JUST GO OUT FOR RFQ RIGHT NOW AND JUST DO IT SIMULTANEOUSLY. OKAY? WE HAVE A MEETING AND THEN WE CAN ARE WE GOING TO REVIEW THE CANDIDATES. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE INTERNAL. WE REVIEW OKAY. AM I SURE SOMEBODY YES OF COURSE THE RFQ GO OUT AND YOU'RE IN TOTALLY IN CHARGE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO YEAH JUDGE GUILLORY SO WHAT IS THE NORMAL COST FOR SUCH A CONSULTANT? WHAT IS THE AVERAGE COST? I MEAN, IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT TO WORK WITH TODAY. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT CONSULTING FEES, WE KNOW HOW IT WENT WITH THE THE WEBSITE DEVELOPER AT ONE POINT. AND WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT SAME MISTAKE AGAIN, BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A BUDGET OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE CITY MANAGER HAS SOME IDEAS. AND I THOUGHT WE WERE VERY GOOD. BUT IF WE START SPENDING MONEY TOO MUCH BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT TO WORK WITH TO BEGIN WITH. SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. BUT THE THINK TANK WE NEED TO WE NEED TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE THINK TANK AND AND CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSULTANT. BUT HOW MUCH HOW MUCH IS A CONSULTANT? I THINK THAT WOULD ALL DEPEND ON THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE PROVIDE. WE DEVELOP AND GIVE TO THE CONSULTANT. MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS ASK IN TERMS OF WHAT'S OUT THERE, AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE VARIOUS PRICES BASED ON THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE MAY DEVELOP, BECAUSE THOSE CAN RANGE FROM 20,000 TO $100,000. AND THAT WOULD OBLITERATE YOUR YOUR BUDGET. FOR NOW. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT. MAYBE. WHAT? AND YOU'RE RIGHT. MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO, WE LET US DEVELOP THE RFQ AND LET'S HAVE THE THING, LET'S HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON THE THINK TANK. SO THAT WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP PRIORITIES. WHAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY? WHAT'S AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION FOR THE THINK TANK. YOU AT LEAST YOU COULD SET 5 OR 10 PRIORITIES. AND BASED ON THOSE PRIORITIES, WE COULD DETERMINE WHAT IS IT THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE? HOW DO WE DEVELOP THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE CONSULTANT BASED ON WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE? OKAY, I THINK THAT'S A WAY TO APPROACH IT. THAT WOULD HELP. WE CAN. MAYOR MOSES YEAH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION TO THE ONCE WE PUT THE RFQ OUT, HOW LONG DO WE HAVE BEFORE WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE HOW LONG WE CAN KEEP THAT, SELECT THE PERSON OR WHATEVER. BUT WITHOUT GOING OUT AGAIN, DOES THAT TIME EXPIRE IN A YEAR THAT'S GOOD FOR A YEAR OR IS IT GOOD FOR SIX MONTHS? OR, YOU KNOW, WE GO OUT FOR BID AND WE SELECT SOMEONE? DOESN'T MEAN THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO HIRE THEM THEN. OR YOU MAY HAVE TIME. YOU KNOW, USUALLY THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS ARE JUST THEIR ACTUAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS OUT THERE THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR YOU. I THINK THE TIME OF THE RFQ WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT 60 TO 90 DAYS AT THE MOST. THAT WOULD BE VALID, OKAY, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST LOOK AT WHAT COST. WE WON'T KNOW COST UNTIL WE START SEEING BASICALLY GO OUT FOR RFQ AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR US TO HAVE SOMEONE AND WHAT THE COST WOULD BE. RIGHT. I THINK THIS BOARD HAS HAS HIRED A CONSULTANT IN THE PAST. THAT WAS ART, WHO ALSO HAPPENED TO BE AN ATTORNEY. I KNOW THAT HE TRIED TO GET SOME PROJECTS STARTED FOR YOU, BEGAN THE PLANNING PROCESS, BUT THERE WASN'T ANY MONEY, SO THERE WASN'T A LOT OF MOVEMENT. ART HAS PASSED AWAY AND I THINK HE IS TELLING THE ANGELS TO SAY, HEY, LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE HERE WE ARE AGAIN. AND AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, WE DON'T. I'M NOT SAYING THAT. BUT IF YOU DO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED SOMEONE WITH SOME HELP TO HELP US PLAN THE FUTURE. AND MY POINT IS, WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GO OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT THE COST IS. WE CAN. I DON'T HAVE ANY PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE ACTUAL COST. WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GO OUT FOR RFQ TO SEE. THAT'S MY POINT, [00:30:01] THAT ONCE YOU GO OUT THERE AND YEAH, Y'ALL GET WHAT I'M SAYING. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH, MAYOR, WE WON'T KNOW. LET'S GO OUT AND SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE. YEAH. AND WE CAN AFFORD IT. WE'LL DO IT. IF WE CAN'T, WE GO AND BUY IT. THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. YEAH. BECAUSE, MAYOR, WHAT WILL HAPPEN THOUGH? EACH CONSULTANT WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A COPY OF THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE. RIGHT. AND THEIR HISTORY, THEIR HISTORY, YOU KNOW, SO IT PROVIDES US AN OPPORTUNITY OR YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST AND SAY, WELL, I LIKE THIS PERSON'S WORK. I LIKE THIS PERSON'S WORK. THESE ARE THE SUCCESSES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IN PORT ARTHUR, LET'S CHOOSE THIS ONE. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? YES, YES. AND FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH HAVING TO DEAL WITH CONSULTANTS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT, YOU WANT TO FIND THOSE CONSULTANTS WHO CAN GO OUT THERE AND FIND MONEY. THERE YOU GO. SO BECAUSE IF IT'S OKAY IF I PAY A CONSULTANT $100,000, IF HE'S GOING TO TURN AROUND OR SHE'S GOING TO TURN AROUND AND GET US 1 MILLION OR 2 MILLION. SO YOUR, YOUR, YOUR ROI IS ROI RATHER IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S WORTH IT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THOSE CONSULTANTS, THEY KNOW WHERE THE GRANTS ARE. THEY KNOW WHERE SOME OF THE LENDERS ARE. THEY KNOW WHERE QUOTE UNQUOTE. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE JED CLAMPETT'S ARE THAT WANT TO INVEST. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FROM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE DESCRIPTORS FOR SURE THAT YOU FIND A CONSULTANT THAT CAN ACTUALLY FIND YOU MONEY. AND WE CAN START FROM THERE AND THEN GO IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY FOUND AND WHAT PROJECTS THEY WERE ABLE TO HIT. AND, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO COMPLETE. THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE NORMALLY KIND OF LOOK FOR. OKAY, OKAY. SO IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE WANT TO ACTUALLY CONTINUE AND GO THROUGH WITH THE RFQ AND JUST GET THOSE, GET THOSE QUALIFICATIONS BACK AND THEN AND DECIDE ON A LATER DATE AFTER WE HAVE THE THINK TANK. WERE WE OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY. SO IF WE OKAY WITH THAT, LET ME GET A MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE ON THE FLOOR. AND THEN WE CAN HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS. I MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID, EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T CATCH EVERYTHING, BUT I MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE THAT. OKAY, I SECOND, I SECOND THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS IS ANY QUESTIONS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SO IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED OKAY. CITY CITY ATTORNEY, YOU HAVE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS WITH THE RFQ [8. Discussion regarding expanding or creating a Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone for Pleasure Island.] FOR QUALIFICATIONS. I UNDERSTAND THE INSTRUCTIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NEXT LET'S GO TO NUMBER EIGHT DISCUSSION REGARDING EXPANDING OR CREATING A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE FOR PLEASURE ISLAND. LET'S HEAR SOME. WE GOT SOME CHATTER ON THIS ONE. WHO WANT TO START OFF. IT'S YOU CITY ATTORNEY. OR LET ME JUST SHOW YOU A MAP. MAYBE THAT WILL HELP. LET'S SEE THE MAP. ALL RIGHT. SO EXPANDING OR CREATING A NEW TOUR. SO THIS IS ABOUT EITHER EXPANDING YOU AND YOUR TERRITORY THAT YOU HAVE AUTHORITY OVER OR IT'S ABOUT CREATING A NEW ONE. AND THERE ARE NO DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MET. BUT I THINK THAT THE DISCUSSION IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BEGIN. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS MAP, THE YELLOW PART AND THE PURPLE PART MAKE UP OUR TOURS. THE PURPLE PART IS JUST THE PORT PROPERTY. NOW YOU SEE THAT YELLOW AND PURPLE THERE, RIGHT? SO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE NEXT MAP. AND YOU SEE THE YELLOW AND PURPLE ON THAT MAP WHICH IS YOUR TOURS. AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RED WHICH IS OLIVE PLEASURE ISLAND. OKAY. THAT JUST GIVES YOU A VISUAL OF THE AMOUNT OF LAND AND OPPORTUNITY THAT ALSO EXISTS ACROSS THE BRIDGE. AND I STAND READY FOR ANY ASSIGNMENTS, SIR. NOW, RON, CHIME IN ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS AND OPEN IT UP TO PLEASURE ISLAND AND AND HAVING A LARGER LAND MASS OF OPPORTUNITIES. ARE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES STILL OUT THERE FOR US? IF WE DECIDED TO JUST HAVE THIS TURF AND EXPAND OUR TURF TO COVER THOSE ADDITIONAL AREAS, BECAUSE I REMEMBER YOU HAD BOUGHT SOME HATS, YOU BOUGHT SOME HOT STUFF. [00:35:03] YEAH, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. YEAH, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THERE. BUT LET US COME WHILST WE PONDER IT. THERE ARE A FEW THINGS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT PLEASURE ISLAND IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, AND TWO, THERE IS THE OTHER PART OF PLEASURE ISLAND, ALTHOUGH IT'S A PLEASURE ISLAND, HAS BEEN BROUGHT BACK ON THE THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY MANAGER AND OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. PLEASURE ISLANDERS HAVE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO WHILST WE ALL CONTINUE TO PLAY IN THE SANDBOX TOGETHER, MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE A NEED FOR A DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOUR APPOINTEES MAKE UP. WELL, THE COUNCIL APPOINTEES MAKE UP THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR PLEASURE ISLAND, AND IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS BUYING, YOU KNOW, ON ALL LEVELS AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED. HOWEVER, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A TOURISM WHICH WOULD GREATLY ENHANCE PLEASURE ISLAND'S ABILITY TO GO OUT THERE AGAIN AND RAISE CREDIT AS A AS THE ENTERPRISE ZONE, YOU KNOW, SO AS. AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S GREAT POTENTIAL THERE'S GREAT POTENTIAL IN THERE TO DO THAT. THE QUESTION IS HOW WE SKIN THE CAT AND HOW WE ALL AGREE. WHAT DO WE ALL AGREE TO? YOU KNOW, AS, AS AN EXISTING THIRD. AND ARE THEY WILLING TO COME ALONG WITH US? IS THE COUNCIL IS WILLING TO MAKE THE DECISION TO PUT BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER OR TO SEPARATE THEM? MAYBE LYNN MIGHT HAVE SOME INSIGHT FOR US. IS WILL IT BE CONSIDERED CO-MINGLING OF FUNDS BECAUSE PLEASURE ISLAND HAS AGAIN AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, AND YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT SEPARATE FROM THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WHICH IS GENERALLY PART OF THE GENERAL FUND? LYNN, GIVE US SOME INSIGHT FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE. WHEN I GET THE WHEN I GET THE DOCUMENTS FROM JEFFERSON COUNTY, IT'S JUST TOURS. AND MY CONCERN IS IF IT'S JUST TOURS, I'M NOT GOING TO KNOW WHICH ONE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ALLOCATED TO PLEASURE ISLAND VERSUS WHICH ONE IS GOING TO BE ALLOCATED TO US. IT'S STILL TAXATION OF THE MONEY. WE CAN STILL PULL IT INTO GENERAL FUND. THAT'S FINE. BUT I REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHICH PART OF TOURS IS PLEASURE ISLAND THAT I CAN PUT THE FUNDS BACK INTO THAT ENTERPRISE, IF THAT'S HOW WE WANT TO MOVE THAT, OR I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S AN ENTERPRISE, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY TAX, AND WE'RE THE ONLY ONES IN GENERAL FUND THAT CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THE PROPERTY TAX. AND THIS MAY BE JUST A WAY TO POTENTIALLY USE OR I WANT TO SAY, WHAT IS THE WORD. USE IT AS A STRATEGY TO GET MORE MONEY INTO TOURS IN GENERAL. AND THEN YOU CAN DECIDE HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO PUT INTO PLEASURE ISLAND OR THIS ONE. I THINK IT'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUSTNESS THERE IF YOU PUT IT TOGETHER. SO FOR ME, I JUST WOULD PREFER TO SEPARATE IT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S JUST AN ENTERPRISE. THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE. AND OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK PERHAPS THE CONSULTANT OR THE OUR CITY ATTORNEY MAY HAVE MORE INSIGHT INTO THAT FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE IN THE WAY THAT I GET THE INFORMATION. IT IS A IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SEPARATE THE TWO. OKAY. YEAH, I. JUDGE JUDGE GUILLORY AND THEN COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND THEN THE MAYOR. I GUESS THE BIGGEST QUESTION FOR ME IS WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE OF CREATING A SECOND TOURIST? WHAT'S THE DISADVANTAGE TO CREATING A SECOND TOURIST? IF WE'RE DEALING WITH THE TAX DOLLARS? AND WHEN WE KNOW THAT THE DOWNTOWN PORT ARTHUR IS GOING TO DRIVE, WHAT HAPPENS TO CROSS PLEASURE ISLAND AND VICE VERSA? ACCOUNTING PRACTICES AND KEEPING EVERYTHING UNDER UNDER ONE, UNDER ONE ROOF, SO TO SPEAK, IS NOT A BAD THING. WHEN WHEN THE ALLOCATION OF THOSE FUNDS CAN HELP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS AND DRAINAGE AND UTILITIES ACROSS PLEASURE ISLAND, THE MARINA IMPROVEMENT, WATERFRONT IMPROVEMENT, TOURISM RELATED ITEMS THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BENEFIT DOWNTOWN AS WELL AS PLEASURE ISLAND. SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A DRAW, YOU KNOW, SO MY QUESTION IS SIMPLY WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OR WHAT'S THE DISADVANTAGE OF HAVING ONE TOURS VERSUS SEPARATE TOURS? AND IS IS IT GOING TO WHAT IS [00:40:07] IT GOING TO ACCOMPLISH BY DIVIDING IT? I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL QUESTION AND DESERVES A LOT OF ATTENTION. AND PERHAPS WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO THE FUTURE WITH ANSWERS, WITH THE COLUMN OF THE ADVANTAGES AND THE DISADVANTAGES, SIMPLY BECAUSE THE GOVERNING BODY DOES MAKE THE DECISION ON WHETHER THEY EXPAND THE EXISTING OR THEY CREATE A NEW. BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE AGENDA ITEM REALLY IS TO SPARK DISCUSSION AND TO GET FEEDBACK FROM EACH OF YOU ON WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE. I CAN GENERALLY TELL YOU SOME DISADVANTAGES AND ADVANTAGES NOT NECESSARILY APPLICABLE TO THIS AREA, BUT JUST IN GENERAL. OF COURSE THERE'S THE COUNTY, RIGHT? IF YOU GOT THEM SEPARATE OR JOINT, IT'S THE BUYING POWER. EACH WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN BUYING POWER. OR YOU COULD COLLECT THEM TOGETHER AS ONE FOR ONE ULTIMATE BUYING POWER. YOU ALSO HAVE INSTEAD OF TWO BOARDS WITH TWO DIFFERENT MISSIONS, YOU WOULD HAVE ONE BOARD WITH ONE MISSION. IT WOULD. IT WOULD GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY WERE COMBINED AS ONE FOR WHAT HAPPENS ON PLEASURE ISLAND TO FEED DOWNTOWN FOR ONE PROJECT, OR VICE VERSA. RIGHT? IT MAY BE THAT YOU WANT TO SPUR PLEASURE ISLAND, AND SO YOU WANT TO USE THE MONEY THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO GET WITH THE INCREASED PROPERTY VALUE HERE TO BE OVER THERE. IT'S JUST IT'S IT'S ABOUT TWO PANS OR ONE BIG POT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE PUT IT. AND THE OPERATION, IT'D BE MORE EFFICIENT IF IT WAS ONE BOARD, ALTHOUGH IT MAY BE THE FACT THAT THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT MISSIONS, THERE MAY BE ONE MISSION FOR DOWNTOWN AND A DIFFERENT MISSION FOR PLEASURE ISLAND. YEAH. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH AND BEGIN DISCUSSING. AND SO I'M HOPING THAT THIS IS PROVOKING THAT DISCUSSION AND THOUGHT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DISCUSS IT WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, NO, I THINK THE ATTORNEY HAS HAS ANSWERED MY QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LEGAL THE LEGALITIES BETWEEN EXPANDING AND CREATING. AND I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK IT IS IT IS GOOD TO HAVE A HEALTHY DEBATE AND DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU KNOW, THIS THIS BOARD WANTS TO GO TO AN EXPANSION OR TO A CREATION OF ANOTHER. TERMS, ESPECIALLY ON THE PLEASURE ISLAND SIDE, WHERE YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE ABOUT TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE PLACE IN, IN AND AROUND THOSE AREAS AND ALONG THE SHIP CHANNEL. AND SO THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE SOME HEALTHY DISCUSSION. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S GOING TO BE SOME HEALTHY DISCUSSION. IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT THAT I CAN CONSULTANT COULD HELP YOU WITH. AND LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT I MEAN BY THAT. THE CONSULTANT COULD BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A BASE VALUE WITH THE ANTICIPATED INCREASE IN VALUES. RIGHT. AND BE ABLE TO TELL YOU HOW FAST YOU'RE GOING TO BE GROWING OR HOW FAST MONEY IS COMING THROUGH FOR PROJECTS TO BE. AND IT MAY BE THAT YOUR PRIORITY MAY BE IN DOWNTOWN, BUT THE MONEY CAN COME FROM PLEASURE ISLAND OR VICE VERSA. SO THAT IS A IS A VERY TECHNICAL SKILL SET ON SOME FINANCIAL INFORMATION AND SOME PROJECTS BASED NOT ONLY ON WHAT THE CITY IS DOING, BUT THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT, THE PORT, THE COUNTY TO TO GEL IT ALL TOGETHER. AND SO PLEASE BEGIN NOT ONLY DISCUSSING IT HERE, BUT AMONGST EACH OTHER AND OTHERS, NOT TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM FOR THE TOURS, BUT IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN, SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING THIS AND MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER. YES, YOU GO AHEAD. YOU KNOW JOHNSON WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. TURN YOUR MIC OFF. NO, I'M GOOD, I'M GOOD. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST MADE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE ENSURE WE HAVE SEVERAL TAXING ENTITIES REPRESENTED HERE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE RESOURCES OF THE TAXPAYERS MONEY AS WELL. AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE REPRESENTATION HERE BRING BACK THE MESSAGE TO THE VARIOUS ENTITIES SO THAT THEY COULD THEY WOULD AGREE WITH US, YOU KNOW, AS A BODY BASED ON THE DECISION THAT WE'RE MAKING. AND AS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, I [00:45:02] WOULD THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD ASK THE CONSULTANT, YOU KNOW, WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD YOU BE MAKING ON THAT PROFESSIONAL LEVEL TO US AS A BODY TO MAXIMIZE THE VALUE? YES, TO MAXIMIZE THE VALUE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THE PRIORITIES. YES. YEAH. SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. LET'S [9. Presentation and Discussion regarding the City Ordinance for Downtown Vacant Building Registration.] MOVE ON TO NUMBER NINE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CITY ORDINANCE FOR DOWNTOWN. VACANT. VACANT. BUILDING REGISTRATION. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. WELL, YOUR GOVERNING BODY, THE CITY COUNCIL, DEFINITELY HAS GOT US BUSY IN THE LAW DEPARTMENT. AND WE'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED AND DID DRAFT A COUPLE OF ORDINANCES THAT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY A REALLY IMPORTANT PART FOR YOU. AND THE FIRST ONE IS THE DOWNTOWN VACANT BUILDING REGISTRATION ORDINANCE. WHAT IS THAT? WELL, GUESS WHAT IT IS. WHAT? IT SOUNDS LIKE ANY DOWNTOWN VACANT BUILDING DOWNTOWN IS IDENTIFIED WITH YOUR BOUNDARIES. THE EXACT SAME BOUNDARIES FOR THE TOURS ARE THE SAME BOUNDARIES THAT WE CALL DOWNTOWN. AND THIS ORDINANCE, EVERY VACANT BUILDING IN OUR TOURS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY. AND YOU ASK, WELL, WHY? WELL, BECAUSE VACANT BUILDINGS ATTRACT DIFFERENT KIND OF NEGATIVE PROBLEMS, RIGHT? NUISANCES, POLLUTANTS, DETERIORATION, MANY THINGS. AND SO OFTENTIMES, EVEN AS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, WE WANT TO KNOW WHO OWNS THIS BUILDING AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO ASSIST THEM. AND SO WE WANT TO HAVE A REGISTRY BY WHICH THIS HAPPENS. SO THAT'S THE DOWNTOWN SAME TOURS BUILDING AND OUR VACANT BUILDING REGISTRATION ORDINANCE. IT WOULD REQUIRE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ANNUALLY REGISTER THEIR BUILDINGS. AND WHEN THEY GET THAT PERMIT THE PERMIT IS NONTRANSFERABLE. THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY A REGISTRATION FEE OF $250. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THEIR BUILDING INSPECTED BY A CITY INSPECTOR, AND THAT COST WOULD BE $50. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR VACANT BUILDINGS ARE STRUCTURALLY SOUND. IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THAT, WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE BUILDINGS. NOW WE CAN GET INTO BUILDINGS WITH ADMINISTRATIVE SEARCH WARRANTS, BUT WE CAN ALSO GET INTO BUILDINGS BASED ON CONSENT. AND SO THE VACANT BUILDING REGISTRATION ORDINANCE WILL GIVE US THE CONSENT TO GO IN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE STRUCTURALLY SOUND BUILDINGS. PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THE VACANT REGISTRATION ORDINANCE IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO GIVE US AN EMERGENCY CONTACT SO THAT IF ANYTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT BUILDING, THE GOVERNING ENTITIES KNOW EXACTLY WHO TO CONTACT TO MAKE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CLEARANCE OF IT. WE WILL ALSO REQUIRE THE VACANT PROPERTY OWNERS TO PROVIDE US WITH INSURANCE FOR THEIR BUILDING, AND TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE BUILDING. DO THEY INTEND TO KEEP IT VACANT? ARE THEY TRYING TO RENT IT? IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE MARKET FOR SALE? IT'S THOSE KIND OF ISSUES BY WHICH WE CAN HELP IDENTIFY AND PLAN AND BE ABLE TO GARNER SUPPORT AND PLANS FOR DIFFERENT IDEAS. BUT WE CAN'T DO IT UNLESS WE KNOW WHO'S WHO AND WHERE'S WHERE AND WHAT'S WHAT. AND SO THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED THIS VACANT BUILDING REGISTRATION ORDINANCE, AND IT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WHILE WE SPEAK. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO NOTE THAT THIS IS APPLICABLE IN YOUR AREA. AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE FIND OUT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? JUST I THINK THERE'S A BRIGHT SIDE OF THIS ORDINANCE. AND THE BRIGHT SIDE IS THERE IS CURRENTLY THERE'S NO INVENTORY. IF A DEVELOPER CALLS EITHER THE EDC OR THE CITY FOR PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO SAY, WELL, LET ME PULL UP THE LIST, THE INVENTORY LIST OF REGISTERED VACANT BUILDINGS THAT THE PORT OWNS DOWNTOWN. AND THE PORT HAS A BUILDING FOR 50,000FTâ– !S ON HOUSTON AVENUE. D IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT, YOU NEED TO CALL LARRY KELLY. THIS IS HIS CONTACT NUMBER IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE YOU NEED YOU KNOW, YOU NEED THAT BUILDING IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS. THERE IS NO I MEAN, MOST TIMES WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT, THINK ABOUT IT. AND THEN WE DO THE GUESSING GAME, YOU KNOW, WELL, CALL THIS PERSON AND CALL THIS PERSON OR CALL, CALL CHARLOTTE AND CHARLOTTE MAY KNOW WHO A REALTOR IS. YOU KNOW THAT'S TRUE THOUGH. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A THAT'S THE MERIT OF IT. WE HAVE AN INVENTORY ALREADY. INVENTORY. AND WE CAN PULL IT UP AND TELL SOMEBODY, CALL THIS PERSON [00:50:01] BECAUSE THERE'S A BUILDING NEXT DOOR AND THE BUILDING MAY BE READY TO GO. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A THAT'S THE UPSIDE OF IT. AND PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT, WELL, YOU HAVE A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE, BUT IT PROVIDES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IT ON THE MARKET AS WELL. YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S THE BRIGHT SIDE. YEAH. YEAH, I CAN ALSO YEAH, I CAN ALSO COME UP WITH ANOTHER IDEA BECAUSE WE CAN REALLY THINK ABOUT ALL OF THIS. IT MAY BE THAT THERE IS A VACANT BUILDING THAT'S ABSOLUTELY STRUCTURALLY SOUND, BUT THE FACADE JUST LOOKS BAD AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. WELL WHAT'S WHAT? THAT'S A QUALIFIER FOR THE TOUR'S MONEY, RIGHT? IT MAY BE THAT YOU CAN HELP THEM WITH THE BUILDING FACADE TO GET THAT BUILDING UP AND MOVING. SO THERE'S A IT'S A IT'S REALLY AN ORDINANCE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS A CITY PROSECUTOR, I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT ENFORCEMENT, BUT IT'S REALLY AN ORDINANCE WHERE EVERYBODY COMMUNICATES WITH WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND HOLDS PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY OWN AND INSURABLE. OKAY. JUDGE GUILLORY, AND THEN, OKAY. JUDGE GUILLORY. CITY MANAGER I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THAT'S A THAT HAVING A DIRECTORY. THE OTHER THING THAT THAT I WOULD PROBABLY DRAW ATTENTION TO IS, IS MAKING SURE THAT THE TAXES ON THOSE VACANT BUILDINGS IS CURRENT. THAT'S ANOTHER QUALIFIER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A LOT OF VACANT BUILDINGS. YOU SAY THAT THEY COULD BE POSSIBLY DILAPIDATED. I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO WITH THE ORDINANCE BEING PASSED, THE ONE THING THAT IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T AFFECT THE PORT, BUT IT COULD AFFECT THE INDIVIDUAL THAT OWNS THAT PROPERTY, IS THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENT, BECAUSE I WOULD ASSESS IN MY EXPERIENCE THAT NONE OF THAT, NONE OF THE PROPERTY ABOVE HAS ANY INSURANCE ON IT. SO THAT DOES CREATE LIABILITY. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY GOES IN THERE AND SETS A FIRE AND IT DAMAGES CITY PROPERTY, WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT? SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO GET EVERYBODY INTO COMPLIANCE. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE THE PUSH. BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO A GREAT WAY TO GO TO HAVE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE. AND NOT ONLY JUST CALL UP HERE, POST IT ON THE WEBSITE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO CALL UP HERE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PROPERTY FOR SALE, HERE'S VACANT BUILDINGS. HERE'S A LIST OF IT RIGHT HERE AND HERE'S AND THEN ALSO PUT WHAT WHAT THE TOURS CAN DO TO HELP THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS SELL THE PROPERTY, GET IT UP TO GET IT UP TO CODE, SO TO SPEAK. YOU KNOW, A NICE PAINT JOB ON OUR SIDE, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. OR MAYBE THERE'S A COLLECTION OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE OWNED BY ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER. THAT WOULD BE A REALLY NICE WALKWAY OR AN AREA LIKE FORT WORTH HAS WHERE PEOPLE GATHER AND SIT AND EAT AND STUFF. SO THERE'S JUST GOOD INFORMATION AVAILABLE THAT SHOULD BE RESOURCEFUL. I TOTALLY AGREE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH [10. Presentation and Discussion regarding the City Ordinance for Minimum Property Standards.] WOULD BE NUMBER TEN PRESENTATION DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CITY ORDINANCE FOR MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS. THIS IS MY FAMOUS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH SPEECH. AND LET ME GO AHEAD AND START AGAIN. YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR HAS ITS OWN MUNICIPAL CODES. IT'S GIVEN AUTHORITY BY THE STATE TO BE ABLE TO CREATE OUR OWN CODES TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF OUR COMMUNITY. BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THE CODES THAT WE HAVE ADOPT OTHER CODES. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A PORT ARTHUR CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT ADOPTS THE BUILDING CODE, THE ELECTRICAL CODE, THE MECHANICAL CODE, THE EXISTING BUILDING CODE, THE HOUSING CODE, THE CODE, AND THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE. WHAT I HAVE UP THERE FOR YOU IN THE PRESENTATION IS ACTUALLY THE 3 TO 4 INCH NOTEBOOK OF THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE. AND SO IF YOU OPENED UP THAT BIG NOTEBOOK, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY SEE A LOT OF TECHNICAL RULES THAT ARE MADE FOR THE TRADE. SO IF YOU TOOK A LOOK, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE PLUMBING CODE, YOU'D OPEN THAT NOTEBOOK AND IT WOULD HAVE EVERYTHING A PLUMBER NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO PLUMB SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S THE SIZE OF PIPE OR THE WRENCH OR THE ANGLE OR WHAT NEEDS TO GO WHERE FOR THE PIPE, FOR THE PLUMBING TO WORK. IF YOU AND I WERE TO OPEN THAT BOOK UP THE PLUMBING CODE AND READ IT, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT'S WRITTEN FOR THE TRADE AND THOSE ARE CERTAIN SPECIALTIES. SO THOSE CODES ARE IMPORTANT AND THEY SHOULD NOT GO AWAY, THEY SHOULD BE APPLICABLE AND THEY ARE APPLICABLE. BUT I WANTED SOMETHING MAYBE EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, RIGHT. TO KIND OF PUT IT ALL DOWN AND NARROW DOWN INTO ONE SPOT SO THAT IF YOU PULLED UP AN ORDINANCE, ONE ORDINANCE IN THE CITY, IT WOULD CALL FOR MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS. SO THERE WOULD BE MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS FOR NOT ONLY YOUR LAND, THE PROPERTY, BUT STRUCTURAL STANDARDS, UTILITY STANDARDS FOR APPLIANCE STANDARDS, PLUMBING STANDARDS, ELECTRICAL STANDARDS AND HEALTH [00:55:05] STANDARDS. ALL THOSE BE UNDER CHAPTER 18 AND THE PROPERTY STANDARDS. YOU WOULD SEE THINGS LIKE YOU CAN'T HAVE NO HOLES ON YOUR LAND, CESSPOOLS AND WEST POOL AND WELLS HAVE TO BE COVERED. THERE'S NO YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE TRASH CONTAINERS. IF IT'S OCCUPIED. YOU HAVE TO PREVENT STANDING WATER, YOU HAVE TO REMOVE DEAD TREES, AND EVERYTHING SHOULD BE WEATHER TIGHT AND WATER TIGHT. THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF ANY STRUCTURE THAT'S PEELING PAINT, THAT'S NOT WEATHER TIGHT AND WATER TIGHT. A STRUCTURE HAS GOT TO BE PROTECTED BY SOME KIND OF BARRIER BOND TO AVOID DETERIORATION. SO THOSE WOULD BE MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD EXPECT FOR ANY STRUCTURE IN THE CITY THAT IS INTENDED FOR HUMAN OCCUPANCY OR HUMAN USE. AGAIN, PROTECTING OUR HUMANS FROM BEING ENDANGERED. SO FOR EXAMPLE, STRUCTURAL STANDARDS, IF YOU GOT A STRUCTURE AND IT HAS A ROOF, GUESS WHAT? IT'S GOT TO BE MAINTAINED INOPERABLE. WHAT ABOUT A WINDOW OR A FOUNDATION? CEILINGS, BALCONIES, HANDRAILS, A FENCE, STAIRWAYS ALL GOTTA BE MAINTAINED. INOPERABLE SEEMS BASIC, BUT IF YOU GO TO A STRUCTURE AND THERE'S A BROKEN WINDOW, NOW, INSTEAD OF LOOKING IN THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE OR THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE, AND THOSE BIG BINDERS FOR WHERE IT SAYS IS THAT THE WINDOW CAN'T BE BROKEN, YOU CAN JUST SIMPLY GO TO THIS ORDINANCE ALL IN ONE AND FIND THERE'S A WINDOW ON THE STRUCTURE. IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED, INOPERABLE, AND FAILING TO DO SO WOULD BE AN OFFENSE. IN FACT, WE WOULD ALSO HAVE UTILITY STANDARDS. YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE AIR CONDITIONING AND HEATING FOR THOSE INTENDED FOR HUMAN OCCUPATION AND HUMAN USE. AND IF YOU HAVE APPLIANCES, THEY ALSO NEED TO BE OPERABLE. PLUMBING STANDARDS. YOU GOT A KITCHEN SINK, A TOILET, A BATHTUB, A SEWER SYSTEM. THEY GOT TO BE WORKING. SIMPLE STUFF, BUT DIFFICULT TO FIND IN THOSE 3 TO 4 INCH NOTEBOOKS. THERE'D BE HEALTH STANDARDS. WE DON'T WANT ANY STRUCTURE TO HAVE ANYTHING THAT WILL CAUSE AN INFESTATION. AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN ANY INTERIORS OF VACANT STRUCTURES FREE FROM ANYTHING THAT CAUSES AN INFESTATION. SO IF WE PUT ALL THESE STANDARDS TOGETHER IN ONE SIMPLE ORDINANCE AND THEY'RE PASSED AND THEY WERE PASSED, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY ENFORCE, BUT WE COULD PROSECUTE, AND THOSE STANDARDS WOULD BE CLASSY OFFENSE, JUDGE, AND THEY WOULD BE PUNISHABLE FROM ANYWHERE BETWEEN 200 AND $50 UP TO $2,000 PER DAY PER VIOLATION. AND WE WOULD PROSECUTE THOSE IN OUR MUNICIPAL COURT, ONE MINIMUM STANDARD FOR EVERYONE TO EASILY BE ABLE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND, AND KNOW THAT WE EXPECT OUR HUMANS IN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, WHO OCCUPY ANY STRUCTURE TO BE SAFE. ALL RIGHT. HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO THE TOURS? OKAY. YOU HAVE STRUCTURES IN THE TOURS, RIGHT. AND SO IN ADDITION TO THESE VACANT REGISTRATION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MINIMUM STANDARDS WHEN WE GO IN TO INSPECT THOSE VACANT BUILDINGS AND EXPECT THOSE STANDARDS TO BE MET. SO THAT WILL INCREASE YOUR PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH INCREASES YOUR DOLLAR VALUE INTO THE TOURS, WHICH INCREASES YOUR BUYING POWER AND YOUR CREDIT POWER TO BE ABLE TO DO NICE PROJECTS FOR DOWNTOWN. OKAY, JUDGE GUILLORY, HOLD ON BEFORE YOU GO. YEAH, I WON'T BE LONG. NO, THE ORDINANCE IS GREAT, RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO TO SAY, LET US KEEP IN MIND, ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, SOME OF SOME OF THE ORDINANCE MADE THAT ARE IN PLACE NOW WILL CAUSE HARM TO THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF IN OUR COMMUNITY DON'T HAVE THE NECESSARY RESOURCES THAT WE THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF TO FIX RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, YOU KNOW, THOSE HOMES THAT ARE THAT ARE BEING RENTED OUT, THE TENANTS ALSO NEED TO KNOW THEY HAVE RIGHTS AS WELL. ALTHOUGH THE CITY CAN ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE IF THERE'S A TENANT LIVING IN THIS CITY UNDER THESE CONDITIONS, THEY HAVE A RIGHT. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO FILE SUIT. AS LONG AS THEIR RENT IS PAID, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO FILE SUIT FOR REPAIR AND REMEDY. THAT ALSO COMES WITH A $1,500 FINE. AND AND OF COURSE, THE LANDLORD HAS SEVEN DAYS TO RESPOND. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO AS WELL, IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS, BECAUSE OUR CITIZENS NEED TO BE PROTECTED. SO YOU GUYS ARE DEFINITELY MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. JUST KEEP IN MIND FOR THOSE THAT ARE RIGHT FENCE FALLING DOWN, WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF FUND OR GRANT OR [01:00:11] SOMETHING, SOME TYPE OF ASSISTANCE IN PLACE TO ASSIST THOSE THE PAINT, THE WINDOWS THAT THAT THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T POSSIBLY FIX FOR THEMSELVES. AND WE KNOW THAT IF THERE WAS A PROGRAM IN PLACE, THERE'S A LOT OF ENTITIES IN THE CITY THAT ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS. BUT RESOURCES ARE ALWAYS LIMITED. SO WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, ELDERLY, ESPECIALLY ELDERLY, THAT JUST USING YOUR EXAMPLE AS THE WINDOW, THE WINDOW IS FALLING OUT OF THE OUT OF THE FRAME. YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT WOULD HELP THEM, IT WOULD BE GREAT. YOU KNOW, GETTING GETTING HOMES PAINTED, THIS WHOLE, THIS WHOLE THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR DOWNTOWN, THE BEAUTIFICATION, THE THE FIBER OPTICS, YOU KNOW, CREATING THIS, THIS COBBLESTONE SIDEWALK LEADING STRAIGHT TO PLEASURE ISLAND, THE VISION TO GOING OVER. AND I'M WITH IT, I LOVE IT. I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WHEN WE SEE A NEED, THAT WE ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS THAT. AND IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT, THAT, THAT SITUATION TO BE ON YOUR DOORSTEP, CONSIDER THAT. MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIVING NEXT DOOR IN NEED. AND THEN I TURN MY I TURN MY, MY MY EYE TO IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HELP THEM SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO SUFFER. SO I WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTIME THAT WE ENFORCE ANYTHING, WE KEEP THOSE THINGS IN MIND, THAT BECAUSE IT DOES DO HARM TO SOME. BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE ALREADY TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM LONG ENOUGH. AND IT'S TIME FOR US AS A CITY, AS CITIZENS OF THIS CITY, TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. SO I DO AGREE WITH YOU. YEAH, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR MOSES. YEAH, WELL, I DO APPRECIATE THE JUDGE SAYING THAT, BUT I AM SO EXCITED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT'S GOING TO HOLD. EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE TO AT LEAST TRY THEIR BEST. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE LESS FORTUNATE AND CANNOT DO THAT, YOU KNOW, FIX UP THEIR HOMES OR THEY'RE ELDERLY AND THERE ARE GRANT PROGRAMS. THERE ARE CHURCH PROGRAMS, AND THOSE ARE PROGRAMS THAT I THINK THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT COULD POSSIBLY HELP THEM. AND THEY HAVE TO GO AND SEEK THAT HELP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE I NEED SOMETHING AND THERE ARE CITY PROGRAMS. THERE ARE PROGRAMS THROUGH LEGACY. BUT FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE MONEY AND JUST COME TO PORT ARTHUR TO MAKE US A SLUMLORD AND JUST DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, AND IN ANY COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY WANTS TO LIVE IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD. EVERYBODY. I DON'T WANT ANYBODY ON MY BLOCK, YOU KNOW? AND I'M SURE JUDGE YOURSELF AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT'S ON THIS DAIS TODAY, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T JUST COME THERE AND TRASH OUT, AND THERE'S NO GUIDELINES. NOBODY'S FINDING NOBODY'S DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT. YOU CAN JUST COME TO PORT ARTHUR AND DO WHAT YOU WANT. THE TIME FOR THAT IS OVER. IT'S OVER. YOU'RE NOT COMING TO PORT ARTHUR TO DUMP. YOU'RE NOT COMING TO PORT ARTHUR TO LIVE AND AND JUST BRING THAT WAS. THERE WAS SOMEONE I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, SAY IT ON HERE, BUT THAT HE JUST. HE LIVED IN HOUSTON BUT HAD A HOUSE IN PORT ARTHUR THAT HE WAS JUST BRINGING STUFF TO. AND I'M ON MIKE, AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY NOTHING BAD, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE NOT THAT. WE'RE NOT THAT CITY. SO WE NEED YOU TO RESPECT US. AND SO I AM THANKFUL FOR THESE GUIDELINES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE. WE CAN LOOK OUT FOR OUR NEIGHBOR. WE CAN HAVE A GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM. LET'S LET'S THINK BEYOND YOU KNOW, THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS GUIDELINE THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE AND THAT WE WORK SO REALLY HARD WITH ON AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND STAFF WAS DESIGNED TO HURT THOSE THAT ARE LESS FORTUNATE. AND I KNOW YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT, BUT FOR THE AIR, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO SAY THAT IS DESIGNED TO STOP THOSE THAT WE SEE DUMPING IN INCONSPICUOUSLY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS IN IN DIFFERENT PLACES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. YEAH. IT'S IT'S GOT TO STOP. YEAH. AND SO I'M THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING NOW BY WHICH WE CAN FIND THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY, THAT TIRES ARE DUMPED, EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT THEY TAKE AND COME FROM OTHER AREAS. AND I WON'T NAME THEM AND DUMP EM BY THE HIGH SCHOOL. THERE ARE PLACES THAT WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE JUST BACK THEIR TRUCK IN AND JUST DUMP LIKE PORT ARTHUR. JUST NOTHING. THEY'RE GOING TO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RESPECT PORT ARTHUR. AND SO I'M GLAD WE'VE TAKEN A START WITH TAGGING, GIVING, BUILDING ADDRESSES, THE BUILDING, THE WHATEVER YOU CALL THIS REGISTRY FOR DOWNTOWN, YOU DON'T CAN'T JUST HAVE A BUILDING AND YOU'VE DONE NOTHING WITH IT, AND IT JUST SITS THERE AND NOBODY KNOWS WHAT. YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS OR WHO. YOU CAN'T EVEN ASK ANYBODY. LOOK UP THE ADDRESS. THE OWNER DOESN'T LIVE WHERE IT IS, AND I'M A REALTOR. THERE'S SOME PLACES THAT YOU LOOK UP AND IT'S LIKE, WHERE'S THE OWNER? YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T EVEN FIND THE OWNER. AND I DON'T WANT TO GO IN A BEATEN PATH. BUT I'M THANKFUL FOR THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING WITH THE MINIMUM HOUSING STANDARDS, THE SHORT TERM LEASE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. THAT'S NOT EVEN ON HERE. AND THEN THE REGISTRY OF [01:05:05] OUR BUILDING. SO PORT ARTHUR IS MOVING IN A IN A DIRECTION THAT'S GOING TO HELP OUR CITY TO BE RESPECTED. SO AND ANYONE THAT WE HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT WE KNOW, LET'S LOOK OUT FOR OUR NEIGHBOR NEIGHBOR PROGRAM THAT THEY CAN'T. THEY MAY HAVE A WINDOW BROKEN, PAY FOR THE WINDOW, OR SEE HOW WE CAN HELP THE ELDERLY, OR HELP DO SOMETHING WITH THEM, OR CREATE A PROGRAM OR A GUIDELINE FOR IT. I THINK THAT WILL HELP US TO GET TO DO BETTER AS CITIZENS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COMMISSIONER MARTIN, YES, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY, WE TALK ABOUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES. PER THIS BOARD. WE'RE TALKING MORE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS TYPE, NOT NECESSARILY RESIDENTIAL. AM I CORRECT, THOUGH? YOU'VE GOT BOTH IN YOUR BOUNDARIES. SO THIS BOARD HAS THE ABILITY TO HELP BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEND MONEY ON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE IN YOUR AREA OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. YES. AND JUST TO WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME COMMEND THE CITY FOR, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE CITY AND DOING EVERYTHING THAT IT CAN TO MAKE PORT ARTHUR A BEAUTIFUL CITY BY THE SEA. AND SO. IT BRINGS ME BACK TO WHAT THE TOURS CAN DO. AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE UTILITIES COMPANIES, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ENERGY THAT HAS SEVERAL PROGRAMS OUT THERE. AND WHAT'S THAT? THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION THAT HAS THESE PROGRAMS OUT THERE, GULF STATES UTILITIES, WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME WHERE IN THEIR IN THEIR BILL CIRCULARS, THEY ALWAYS ASK US TO DONATE, YOU KNOW, A DOLLAR OR TWO TOWARDS HELPING OTHERS IN NEED. AND I THINK PARTNERING WITH THESE TYPES OF UTILITIES COMPANIES AND HAVING A TOURIST CONSULTANT THAT CAN ACTUALLY PLAN OUT SOME THINGS SO THAT IF, IF AND WHEN THESE, THESE OWNERS, THESE LANDOWNERS OR THESE. THESE LANDLORDS IN OUR TOURS COME TO US AND SAY, HEY, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE ALL THE MONEY TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE ASKING. IS THERE SOME WAY THAT YOU CAN HELP ME OUT RATHER THAN HAVING TO SPEND OUR DOLLARS AND THEIR PROGRAMS OUT THERE, WE CAN ACTUALLY HELP LEAD THEM OR DIRECT THEM INTO INTO A DIRECTION OF FINDING, YOU KNOW, THESE PROGRAMS THAT COULD HELP THEM OUT. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING, ONCE AGAIN, THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WITH THE WITH THE THINK TANK AND TALK ABOUT RATHER IN THE WITH THE THINK TANK. I THINK THAT THESE ARE ALL WONDERFUL IDEAS, CHAIRMAN. AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO DONATE MONEY, ESPECIALLY IF THEY KNOW THERE'S A COURT ORDER MANDATE TO FIX IT. NOT NECESSARILY THE FINE, BUT THE JUDGE HAS AUTHORITY TO COURT ORDER COMMUNITY SERVICES AND SOCIAL SERVICES. RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY WHO WE LEARN IS REALLY IS IMPOVERISHED AND NEEDS HELP. THEN THE LIKELIHOOD OF US BEING ABLE TO CONNECT THEM WITH THE RESOURCE GROWS AND WEALTH WHEN THEY KNOW A JUDGE IS ON THEIR SIDE MANDATING THE FIXING AS OPPOSED TO HOPING IT GETS FIXED. OKAY, GREAT GREAT GREAT GOOD IDEAS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY. I THINK WE'VE COVERED EVERYTHING ON THE TODAY'S AGENDA. THE ONLY THING I DIDN'T SEE. LOOK AT YOUR CALENDARS, BOARD MEMBERS, MARCH 19TH. THAT'S THE THIRD. THURSDAY, MARCH 19TH. ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT DATE FOR NEXT MEETING? AND AND I THINK THAT CITY ATTORNEY AND OUR STAFF IS GOING TO GET BACK WITH US ON A THINK TANK WILL BE DETERMINED ON THAT DATE AND TIME TO TO HAVE BOARD MEMBERS ATTEND THAT, THAT SESSION. SO I THINK D MARCH 19TH ARE WE OKAY, THIRD THURSDAY ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT DATE. CAN WE PENCIL THAT IN AND DO A SURVEY WITH THE. 1 TO 2 3230 OKAY. YEAH. YEAH SURE. OKAY. D INSTEAD OF TWO IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS, CAN WE HAVE THE MEETING AT 230 [01:10:07] INSTEAD OF TWO. IS THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN, MAY I MAKE A POINT? YES. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ON MARCH THE 19TH, THAT'S JUST A FEW DAYS BEFORE A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND THOSE ARE USUALLY THE MOST. NO, IT'LL BE OKAY. IT'LL BE OKAY. IT'LL GO. I'M SORRY. I WAS THINKING DIFFERENTLY. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. PLEASE EXCUSE ME. NO. THAT'S FINE. WE WE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. SO 19, IS THAT OKAY WITH ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS? OKAY. AND THE TIME IS GOING TO BE 230. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THE NEXT THING ON THE ON THE AGENDA IS ADJOURNMENT. MAY I HAVE A CITY MANAGER. WHAT YOU GOT? YEAH. OH, I WANT TO MAKE ONE AMENDMENT. LET'S JUST GO BACK TO THE MEETING. THE MINUTES OF YOUR MEETING JUST FOR TO KEEP THE RECORD STRAIGHT ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE MEETING MINUTES HERE. THE SECOND LINE, OCTOBER 24TH, 2024. IF WE COULD AMEND THAT. AND THEN ON NUMBER TWO, IS IT 24? THE MOTION WAS MADE AS IF IT WAS OCTOBER OF 2025, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY OCTOBER OF 2024. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. WE APPROVE THE MINUTES ON THE APPROVE THE MINUTES ON APRIL OF ON AUGUST OF 25. OKAY. AUGUST 25TH. ALRIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. YOU GUYS HAVE THAT. YES SIR. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. NUMBER TWO ON THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. YEAH. OKAY. 2025. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GOOD. CITY MANAGER. TORI DE WE GOOD. ALRIGHT. AND THE LAST THING WE HAVE NOW IS AN ADJOURNMENT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING? THE TIME IS 333. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THIS MOTION NOW IS * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.