[III.F.(1) A Discussion And To Take Possible Action Regarding Boards And Committees, Attendance, Directives, Mission, And Stated Duties (Requested By Councilmember Beckcom)]

TO OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS NUMBER THREE, PETITIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS.

THIS. I'M SORRY, DID I SKIP SOMETHING? YEAH. PETITIONS AND DISCUSSIONS. I'M COMING TO IT.

YES, MA'AM. I WAS GETTING READY TO READ THAT TITLE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AND TO TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, ATTENDANCE DIRECTIVES, MISSION AND STATED DUTIES REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BECKHAM. THANK YOU MAYOR. I WON'T TAKE LONG WITH THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF LEGWORK HAS HAPPENED KIND OF BEHIND THE SCENES BECAUSE THIS DISCUSSION HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I'VE PULLED IT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME WORK. SO I WANT TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU TO SHERRY BALLARD AND HER STAFF. I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS THIS PACKET THAT WAS PLACED IN YOUR MAILBOX. IT'S DATED JANUARY 14TH. THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME. WELL, I KNOW IT'S THE FIRST TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL THAT WE'VE HAD ALL OF THIS INFORMATION ABOUT OUR BOARDS AND COMMITTEES IN ONE PLACE, AND THIS IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL. SHERRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW THIS WAS A LOT OF WORK AND YOU'RE EXTREMELY BUSY AND SHORTHANDED, BUT I APPRECIATE THIS BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO HELP IN THE ENDEAVOR THAT I'M TRYING TO TO KIND OF GET GOING HERE. THE REASON THAT I HAD PUT THIS ON FOR DISCUSSION A FEW TIMES AND RESET IT, IS BECAUSE NOT ONLY HAVE I HEARD FROM MY OWN APPOINTEES ON VARIOUS COMMITTEES, BUT ALSO FROM CITIZENS WHO HAVE ATTENDED SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THAT NOT ALL OF OUR APPOINTEES ARE ATTENDING. SO THAT'S AN ISSUE.

AND NOT ALL OF THE COMMITTEES ARE MEETING AS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BY THE ORDINANCES.

AND SOME OF THE COMMITTEES ARE NOT PERFORMING THE DUTIES THAT THEY ARE OUTLINED TO PERFORM.

SO I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THIS TOGETHER. AND MY CHARGE TO MY COHORTS UP HERE IS FOR ALL OF US TO REVIEW THIS PACKET SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR APPOINTEES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, HOW OFTEN THESE COMMITTEES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MEETING. THERE IS A LIAISON FOR EVERY COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE. AND I WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER FOR SOME DIRECTION AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE LIAISONS ARE KIND OF KEEPING THEIR FINGER ON THE PULSE OF THE COMMITTEES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING AND THAT THEY ARE ACCOMPLISHING THEIR STATED PURPOSE. BUT I THINK IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT WE KEEP UP WITH THOSE THAT WE HAVE APPOINTED TO COMMITTEES. THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW TIMES WITH A FEW OF MY APPOINTEES WHERE THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, I CAN NO LONGER SERVE ON THIS BOARD, OR THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON ON THIS BOARD THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE KEEPING UP WITH OUR APPOINTEES AS INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO BE SURE. NUMBER ONE, ARE THEY ATTENDING THE MEETINGS? ARE THE MEETINGS BEING SCHEDULED AS THEY SHOULD BE PER THE ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISHES THE COMMITTEE? AND ARE THEY ACCOMPLISHING THEIR PURPOSE? COUNCILMEMBER BECKHAM, THANK YOU. I TOO, BEHIND THE SCENES HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CHRISTY AND SHERRY. SHERRY WAS OUT FOR A WHILE, SO I'D LIKE TO COMMEND CHRISTY ON HELPING TO GATHER THIS INFORMATION FOR US, BECAUSE WHAT I DID WAS WORK BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR COMMITTEES, WE KNEW WHO, FIRST OF ALL, WAS APPOINTED AND UPDATED US ON WHO OUR WHO SERVED ON THE COMMITTEES. SECONDLY, WAS TO ESTABLISH A PERSON THAT WE COULD CONTACT ON THOSE COMMITTEES. I THINK I SPOKE WITH SHERRY ABOUT IT. WE HAD A MEETING RIGHT AFTER ONE OF OUR MEETINGS BACK IN SEPTEMBER, AND I HAD NO IDEA YOU WERE WORKING ON THIS. IT WAS JUST FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO KNOW ACTUALLY WHO SERVING ON WHAT COMMITTEE WHERE, AND THAT ALL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD BE APPRIZED OF WHO WHO'S COMING TO THE MEETINGS. BECAUSE YOU MAKE APPOINTMENTS, YOU DON'T EVER HAVE FEEDBACK ON KNOWING WHO'S SHOWING UP. AND SO I WORK WITH HER TO FIGURE OUT ONE, NUMBER ONE, WHO'S SERVING ON THOSE COMMITTEES. NUMBER TWO, HOW DO WE CONTACT AND KEEP UP WITH IF OUR APPOINTEES ARE SHOWING UP AND SERVING AS WE APPOINT THEM? AND THIRDLY, FINDING SOMEONE AS A CONTACT, THE LIAISONS OR EVEN THE PRESIDENT, OF COURSE, OR CHAIRPERSON OF THAT COMMITTEE.

AND SO I AM THANKFUL THAT THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE KEEPS ME APPRIZED OF WHO'S COMING OUT THERE. LAST MEETING HAD FIVE PEOPLE AND OUT OF AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGER COMMITTEES

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AND THEY HAVE LIKE I THINK WE EACH HAVE THREE APPOINTEES. AND SO WE ONLY HAVE FIVE PEOPLE IN THAT MEETING. AND SHE HAS SOME IDEAS ABOUT MAKING US A GOLDEN CITY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, OR GIVE US SOME AN AWARDS. AND SO KEEPING ME APPRIZED OF THAT SO I CAN LET COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THAT YOUR APPOINTEES ARE NOT SHOWING UP. THAT WAS JUST A START. SO THAT INFORMATION, I THANK CHRISTY FOR COMPILING IT AND GETTING IT TOGETHER FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FOR LETTING US KNOW WHO'S SERVING WHEN THEY'RE SERVING AND HOW THEY'RE SERVING. SO NOW WE HAVE THAT PACKET IS GOING TO HELP GIVE US CLARITY ON ON OUR APPOINTEES, COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND SO THAT WAY WE CAN TAKE THAT PACKET AND DON'T JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST LET US GO THROUGH IT. AS COUNCIL MEMBER BECKHAM HAS SAID, AND WE WORK AS A TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME PEOPLE, SOME COMMITTEES CAN'T EVEN WORK BECAUSE THE APPOINTEES ARE NOT SHOWING UP. AND SO THEY CAN'T EVEN GO FURTHER WITH THEIR ZONING. THEY CAN'T GO FORWARD WITH THEIR MEETINGS, AND THEY HAVE TO CANCEL. AND IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO PUT TO RESCHEDULE AND GET THEM BACK TOGETHER. SO WE ALL WANT TO WORK ON AND DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KNOWING WHO'S SHOWING UP AND GIVE US SOME APPOINTEES THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE POSITIONS THAT THEY'RE BEING APPOINTED TO. AND THAT'S NOT EVERYBODY. A LOT OF THEM ARE, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TRACK IT. AS COUNCIL MEMBER BECKHAM HAS SAID, SAID.

AND AS CHRISTY HAS PUT TOGETHER AND I KNOW CITY SECRETARIES HAD SHE'S BEEN ILL, SHE'S HAD SOME ISSUES AND WE APPRECIATE HER ALLOWING CHRISTY TO GET THIS WORK DONE. WE APPRECIATE YOU, BUT SHE DID A LOT OF WORK ON GETTING THIS TOGETHER FOR US. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.

YES, ONE OF THE THINGS IS VERY IMPORTANT. I HAD AN I HAD A MEETING WITH THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER, THE DIRECTOR, DARLENE. ONE OF THE PROBLEM WITH NOT SHOWING UP, IT IMPACTS THE QUORUM. BUT IT'S IT'S A COSTLY THING WITH HER. SHE'S UPSET ABOUT IMPACTING HER BUDGET. SHE HAS TO ADVERTISE IN THE PAPER. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU CAN'T GET A QUORUM NOW. SO WHENEVER THEY DO ESTABLISH A QUORUM, THEN THEY GOT TO DO IT. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW UP. BUT THEN SHE GOT TO ADVERTISE AGAIN. IT'S COSTLY. IT COST, BUT JUST AS IMPORTANT, WE GOT TO CITY CITY SECRETARY. LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAD A POLICY AT ONE TIME. MAKE SURE IT WAS IN FULL. WE DON'T NEED CITIZENS SERVING ON MULTIPLE COMMITTEES. WE NEED TO INVOLVE MORE CITIZENS. COULD YOU INVENTORY THE LIST AND SEE IF WE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE SERVING ON 1 OR 2 OR MORE COMMITTEES? SHE GAVE YOU A COPY OF THE. WE JUST GOT A WHOLE PACKET OF WHO'S SERVING ON WHAT COMMITTEES. OH, YEAH. IT'S IN YOUR BOX. OH YEAH. YES. OKAY.

OKAY. ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER STUFF. YEAH. OKAY. BUT ANYWAY WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY SERVED ON MULTIPLE COMMITTEES, IT CONFLICTS. MOST OF THEM ARE STILL WORKING. OKAY.

OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET. YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I, I HEAR YOU, BUT THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF US HAVING A STAFF MEMBER. THAT'S OVER. EVERY COMMITTEE OR BOARD, THAT IS THE INDIVIDUAL THAT THE CITY MANAGER APPOINTS, BECAUSE COUNCIL DOESN'T APPOINT THIS INDIVIDUAL, AND THAT INDIVIDUAL IS NORMALLY A PERSON WHO IS OVER THAT DEPARTMENT OR HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOR WHICH THE BOARD OR COMMITTEE DEALS WITH. SO THE PROBLEMS I HEAR ALL THESE CONCERNS IS NOT COUNCIL MEMBERS CONCERNED, IT'S THE INDIVIDUALS THE MANAGER HAVE OVER THE BOARD OF COMMITTEES. IF THERE'S SOMEBODY FROM MY DISTRICT THAT I APPOINT THAT'S NOT SHOWING UP, THE PERSON WHO'S IN CHARGE SHOULD CONTACT COUNCILMAN DOUCET. IT'S A SIMPLE FIX. THEN I WOULD TALK WITH THE PERSON, EVEN REPLACE THE PERSON, OR LET THE PERSON KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO ATTEND MORE MEETINGS. BUT IT'S A SYSTEM IN PLACE. SO IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR COMMITTEES AND BOARD MEETING, IT AIN'T BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBERS NOT INVOLVED. IT'S BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO HAD BEEN APPOINTED OVER THAT BOARD OR COMMITTEE, THAT IS STAFF. THAT IS WHY WE PLACE THEM OVER THAT. SO IT SHOULDN'T BE NOTHING DIRECTED HERE. LET'S PUT IT IN THE HANDS OF THE PERSON THAT'S DROPPING THE BALL. THE PERSON DROPPING THE BALL IS THE PERSON THAT WAS APPOINTED TO DO THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH WHEN BOARDS MEET OR WHEN COMMITTEE MEET. I HAVE ENOUGH THINGS TO DO. APPOINT PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OVER.

IT SHOULD BE THE ONES THAT STAY ON TOP OF IT. IF I GOT A PROBLEM, NOTIFIED ME IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL. JUST CONTACT ME NOW. IF I DON'T RESPOND, I DON'T DO IT THEN HEY, BRING IT BEFORE THE COUNCIL. BUT I DON'T NEED TO TAKE UP EXTRA RESPONSIBILITIES BECAUSE

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SOMEBODY'S NOT DOING THEIR JOB. WE NEED TO GO TO THE ROOTS OF THE PROBLEM AND RESOLVE IT THERE. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER KINLAW OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR, DID WE HAVE A CLARIFICATION ON WHO'S GOING TO BE THE POINT PERSON YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? MAYOR? YES, SECRETARY. IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AT YOUR PLEASURE. WE DO HAVE LIAISONS FOR EVERY BOARD AND EVERYTHING THAT THE COUNCIL IS SAYING. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS AND I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK MISS CHRISTY, MY NEW ASSISTANT CITY SECRETARY. I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO INTRODUCE HER FOR THE WORKSHEET THAT SHE DID. WHAT WE'VE DECIDED TO DO TO GO FORWARD IS TO DO EXACTLY THE LINE OF THOUGHT THAT MAYOR PRO TEM IS IN. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT MORE SIMPLIFIED AND EASIER PROCESS FOR THE LIAISONS WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THEY HAVE TO DO.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY THE REPORTING AND WORK AS A TEAM AND GET THAT INFORMATION COMPILED IN AN EASIER WAY. I'M GOING TO DO SOME ONLINE FORMS AND THINGS, BUT WE'RE NOT COMPLETE. BUT OF COURSE WE WILL RELY ON THE LIAISONS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO JUST WORK AS A TEAM AND TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HELPING THE COUNCIL DO. THAT'S MY JOB. TAKE CARE OF THE COUNCIL. SO WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE, CHRISTY AND I WILL CERTAINLY DO IT WELL, THANK YOU. TO WRAP UP. OH YEAH, WE ARE AND WELL AND THANK YOU. AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT, SHERI, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, CHRISTY CALLED ME ABOUT THREE TIMES IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS, AND SHE'S ON IT. SHE'S ON IT. AND I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, THAT IT'S IMPERATIVE. I THINK COUNCILMAN LEWIS MADE A VALID POINT. SOME OF THESE BOARDS DEPEND ON CONVENE OF OF THE BOARD. AND AND IF WE CAN GET THAT POINT PERSON LIKE SUGGESTED BY MAYOR PRO TEM THAT I CAN GO TO THAT PERSON AND IF THEY'RE NOT MAKING OR ATTENDING THE MEETINGS, THAT WOULD BE MORE PREVALENT TO ME. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING INDIVIDUAL BOARDS HAVE INDIVIDUAL LIAISONS, THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UNLESS I KNOW IF THEY'RE MEETING OR IF THEY REACH OUT OR EMAIL THE COUNCIL, WE'RE TRYING TO SIMPLIFY IT ON ON THE COUNCIL'S END AS WELL. IT'S I FEEL LIKE THE DISCUSSION SO FAR THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH IS TO HAVE AN EASY WAY OF REPORTING FOR THE LIAISONS, FOR THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS, AND THEN IF THERE ARE ISSUES, THEN WE WOULD CONTACT YOU. MY OFFICE WOULD CONTACT YOU, YOU WOULDN'T. WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING PUTTING A RESPONSIBILITY OF YOU KEEPING IN CONTACT WITH LIAISONS OR EVEN YOUR MEMBERS. WE WANT TO MAKE STREAMLINE IT WHERE THEY WILL HAVE A SIMPLIFIED WAY TO REPORT TO CHRISTY AND I. AND THEN IF THE ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BY INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE CAN MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT YOU NEED TO DO ON YOUR END. IF THAT SOUNDS PLAUSIBLE, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT IN OUR CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ALL TALKED ABOUT, WAS FINDING A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AWARE, AS COUNCIL MEMBER BECKHAM AND MYSELF SAID, JUST THE WAY THAT THE COUNCIL CAN BE AWARE, THE SIMPLEST WAY THAT WE CAN BE AWARE OF WHAT OUR APPOINTEES ARE DOING OR NOT DOING, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

OKAY, WE HAVE SOMEONE. WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, MAYOR, I JUST HAVE ONE. OKAY, JUST A SECOND.

I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER EVA FIELDS HAND UP. SHE NEEDS TO SPEAK AND HAVE SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT NEEDS TO SPEAK. AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER AIRFIELD.

THANK YOU, CHRISTY AND MISS SHERRY FOR GATHERING THIS INFORMATION. THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION SINCE 2023 WITH MISS KELLY. AND SHE STARTED THE PROCESS BACK THEN OF GATHERING THIS INFORMATION. SO THIS IS DEFINITELY BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. AND DURING THOSE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH HER, I ASKED FOR THE MINUTES OF THESE BOARD MEETINGS TO BE UPLOADED. JUST AS OUR MINUTES ARE UPLOADED INTO LASERFICHE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT COUNCIL'S CONVENIENT, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE READILY AVAILABLE ACCESS, TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WENT ON DURING THAT MEETING AND WHO WAS IN ATTENDANCE. THE THE ATTENDANCE AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE MEETING. A LIST OF THE BOARD BYLAWS AND SOME TYPE OF WORKSHOP OR SOME TYPE OF MEETING, NOT NECESSARILY FOR US, BUT FOR THE BOARD, SO THAT THEY HAVE A VERY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. SO AGAIN, I AM ASKING FOR

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US TO BE MORE DILIGENT IN USING THE TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE TO US SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A PHONE CALL OR A TEXT OR A MESSAGE WE CAN READILY AVAILABLE HAVE THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. SO AGAIN, I'M ASKING TO PLEASE USE TECHNOLOGY TO OUR ADVANTAGE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT INFORMATION WAS EVER PASSED ON FROM THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH HER, BUT I AM ASKING FOR IT NOW. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER PHIL. MISS CHILDRESS. YES, MA'AM. GOOD MORNING. I FORGET WHAT TIME OF DAY IT IS BECAUSE USUALLY IT'S IN THE EVENING. I'M SUSIE GRIFFIS, I'M AT 806 SOUTH WIND IN PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, AND I HAVE PREPARED A REALLY LIKE FOUR SLIDE POWERPOINT FOR SOME CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE. MY NUMBER ONE THING IS WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO YOU JUST NOW, THE WORD IS DISCONNECT. AND I THINK, AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT AT THIS POINT, YOU DON'T ALWAYS KNOW SURFACE. YES. YOU'RE YOU CAN SPEAK. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. YEAH. WE CAN'T DO A POWERPOINT AT THIS TIME. YOU CAN GET BACK ON THE AGENDA TO DO A POWERPOINT. THAT'S FINE.

BUT YOU CAN SPEAK, BUT YOU CAN'T. YEAH. THREE MINUTES. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. LINDSAY. SO THE THE PLEASURE ISLAND COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD. IT'S SET OUT BY THE CHARTER, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FEW BOARDS AND COMMITTEES THAT IS SET OUT BY THE CHARTER JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THE HISTORY OF THIS. WE HAVE OUR YOU CAN EVIDENCE IT BY THE MINUTES OF EACH OF OUR MEETINGS THAT WHENEVER WE HAVE A MEETING, WE HAVE GREAT ATTENDANCE. WE HAVE REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS THAT COME OUT FROM OUR BOARD, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR APPOINTMENTS FOR THAT. ON THE DIRECTOR'S MEETING MINUTES, WE'LL HAVE A MEETING AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT. AND THE ONLY AUTHORITY WE REALLY HAVE IS TO APPROVE THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. AND IT'S A LONG LIST OF THINGS. AND THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS WHEN YOU READ THE MINUTES, THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT IN THE MINUTES, ALWAYS, ALWAYS BEGIN WITH THE BOARD WAS INFORMED. THE BOARD WAS ALSO INFORMED. THE BOARD WAS INFORMED. SO THEREFORE, WHENEVER IT COMES TO A PHOTO OP, WE HAD NO IT WAS DONE BY STAFF. I'M ASSUMING WHENEVER WE HAVE A $2 MILLION VISITOR CENTER THAT'S COMING UP, WE HAD NO SAY. WE WERE JUST TOLD WHEN WE HAVE A $1.2 MILLION IMPROVEMENT, WHICH IS ALSO COMING UP TODAY FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE GOLF CLUBHOUSE, WHICH THE, YOU KNOW, THE PORT ARTHUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE USING ACTIVELY. IT'S IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE. OR IT WAS WE COMPLETED A FEW YEARS AGO. I THINK WE ALL APPROVED 300,000 TO GET THAT ONE UP TO SNUFF. AND IT WAS VERY CLEAN, VERY, VERY WELL PREPARED. SO I'M NOT SURE WHY WE NEED THESE ADDITIONAL THINGS. WE HAVE NO SAY AND IT'S JUST MY CONCERN AND MY SUGGESTION AND THANK YOU FOR ALREADY BEING ON TOP OF IT.

COUNCILMEMBER BECKHAM. AND MY CONCERN IS TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC DUTIES FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO HELP SPECIFY THE DUTIES, ESPECIALLY FOR US, BECAUSE I'M SURE IT HAPPENS IN OTHER BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, TOO, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL'S APPOINTMENT VOLUNTEERS, WE HAVE NO VOICE IF WE'RE UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY STAFF, AND I KNOW THE CITY STAFF AND OUR SITUATION, I BELIEVE IS THE LIAISON AND THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS. YES, I JUST WANT TO THE DIRECTOR OF COMPLIANCE, CODE COMPLIANCE REMINDED ME THAT MY APPOINTEE HAD MISSED OUT OF SIX MEETINGS, ONLY ATTENDED TWO. THAT'S WHY SHE WAS CONTACTED ME ABOUT REPLACING HER. SO I WENT AND I HAD A LONG TALK WITH THAT WITH MY APPOINTEE, AND HE SAID, HE'S GOING TO DO BETTER. AND AND HE'S ATTENDING THE MEETINGS NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET. YES, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THE MISS SHERIFF'S COMMENT. CITY MANAGER, WE YOU TOLD US BEFORE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WORK ON IDENTIFYING THE DUTIES AND AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT PLEASURE ISLAND COMMISSION, AND IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE I'VE HAD EVER SINCE WE STARTED MAKING THESE CHANGES WITH IT. BECAUSE ONE THING THAT WE MUST KEEP IN MIND, THE PLEASURE ISLAND COMMISSION IS NOT LIKE THE REST OF OUR BOARD AND COMMITTEE. THE PLEASURE OUT OF COMMISSION IS IS ESTABLISHED BY THE CHARTER, AND WE KEEP TAKING MONEY SOMETIMES DOING PROJECTS OVER THERE. BUT IT'S LIKE AN ENTERPRISE FUNDS ALSO IT'S

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SUPPOSED TO FUND ITSELF. AND WE NEED TO REALLY GET BACK TO THAT. SO YOU NEED TO YOU NEED TO WORK ON IT AND GIVE US A, A DUTY AND STUFF. SO WE AS A COUNCIL CAN KNOW BECAUSE THEY SHOULD BE FUNCTIONING FOR THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH IT WAS ESTABLISHED. SO THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO WORK ON IT AND YOU SAID THAT YES, IT HAS NOT BEEN CLEAR, BUT I'M GOING TO WORK ON IT TO MAKE IT CLEAR. YES. AND I WAS HAPPY THAT YOU PLACED IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF THE CHARTER COMMITTEE. OKAY, GOOD. SO WE NEED TO PUT IT BACK AGAIN. WELL, I TELL YOU, WE BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACTION. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. BECAUSE THAT WAY WHEN IT GOES IT GOES TO THE VOTERS. THAT'S RIGHT. AND IT BEING A SEPARATE ENTITY LIKE THE EDC, THEN IT SHOULD BE PROPER THAT WE LET THE VOTERS VOTE ON IT AND APPROVE IT. THAT WAY WE JUST EXECUTE IT. YEAH, I AGREE 100% WITH THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU. IT'S TO REMOVE THE ANOMALY THAT EXISTS, YOU KNOW IN THE CHARTER. YEAH.

THANK YOU. BEST WAY. THANK YOU. 100% SUPPORT OF THAT. YES. OKAY. THANKS. WE HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS AND LIGHTS ON THAT TOPIC. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE NONE

[V. REPORTS / ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

REPORTS AND ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU HAVE ANY OR PUT YOUR LIGHTS ON AT THIS TIME. COUNCILMEMBER BECKHAM, THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY DO HAVE SOMETHING. I WAS RECENTLY NOMINATED TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE MEDICAL CENTER OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS PATIENT AND FAMILY ADVISORY COUNCIL. WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING ON JANUARY 21ST, AND THIS IS A. A COUNCIL THAT IS INTENDED TO BE A LIAISON BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND THE MEDICAL CENTER OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO REPORT THAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING. FIRST OF ALL, THE MEDICAL CENTER HAS SOME NEW PHYSICIANS THAT I WANT TO BE SURE OUR PUBLIC IS AWARE OF.

THERE IS A NEW OB-GYN AND A NURSE PRACTITIONER WITH THAT NEW OBSTETRICIAN. THERE'S A NEW ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON, THERE IS A NEW GENERAL SURGEON, AND THERE IS A NEW GASTROENTEROLOGIST THAT DOES MINIMALLY INVASIVE SURGICAL PROCEDURES IN THAT AREA, THERE IS A STRIP CENTER WHICH IS ON ROYAL MEADOWS DRIVE, WHICH IS AT THE CORNER OF NINTH AVENUE AND ROYAL MEADOWS. THAT STRIP CENTER HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN IT. WELL, NOW IT'S BEING REFURBISHED AND IT WILL BE THE MEDICAL OFFICE OF SEVERAL OF THESE NEW PHYSICIANS THAT ARE NOW AT OUR MEDICAL CENTER. ONE OTHER THING THAT I ALSO LEARNED, AND THIS WAS A SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT I ASKED THE DIRECTOR OF THE MEDICAL CENTER, IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A NEUROLOGIST ON CALL, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS.

THERE, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IS NOT A NEUROLOGIST THAT IS ON CALL IN ANY OF OUR LOCAL HOSPITALS, NOT JUST THE MEDICAL CENTER, BUT ALSO AT SAINT ELIZABETH'S AND AT BAPTIST. SO IF SOMEONE GOES IN AND HAS SYMPTOMS OF A MAJOR STROKE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TIA'S OR MINOR STROKES. THEY CAN THEY CAN HANDLE THAT WITH TELADOC, BUT THERE'S NOT A NEUROLOGIST THAT WILL COME AND ACTUALLY DO CALL FOR SOMEONE WHO'S HAD A A BRAIN BLEED OR A MASSIVE STROKE.

SO EVERYBODY HAS TO GO TO HOUSTON. THEY DID TELL ME, THOUGH, THAT OUR MEDICAL CENTER DOES HAVE A NEUROLOGIST THAT IS ON CALL, BUT ONLY ON TELADOC. SO ANYBODY THAT HAS A CONCERN THERE, I JUST WANTED TO TO BE SURE AND GET THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE. SO OUR MEDICAL CENTER WANTS THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THINGS AT THE MEDICAL CENTER. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS ALL ABOUT, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ACCURATE INFORMATION GETS OUT TO THE PUBLIC, AND THAT RUMORS THAT HAVE GONE AROUND ABOUT VARIOUS THINGS ARE PUT TO REST. THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO MEET ONCE A QUARTER. SO IF ANYONE HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE MEDICAL CENTER, IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TYPE OF CARE THAT THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE OR THE TYPE OF PHYSICIANS THAT ARE THERE NOW, THAT'S WHAT THIS, THIS COMMITTEE IS ABOUT. SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CONTACT ME. AND I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. WE'LL MEET AGAIN, I BELIEVE, IN APRIL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. WE ALSO I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE MAYOR'S 180 DAY COMMUNITY PROGRESS MEETING WILL BE HELD AT NEW SAINT JOHN ON THURSDAY NIGHT, THE 29TH, AND THE MEDICAL CENTER CEO WILL BE THERE TO TALK TO THE WHOLE ENTIRE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE MEDICAL CENTER.

SO I'M THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON THE BOARD, AND I'M GLAD THAT SHE IS GOING TO BE AT OUR MEETING ON THE 29TH TO GIVE US UPDATES FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE MEDICAL CENTER IS DOING, SO WE CAN ASK INA, THE NEW APPOINTED CEO OURSELVES, BASICALLY, AND HOW

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HOW THEY'RE DOING. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE AGAIN AT 5:30 P.M. ON THURSDAY AT NEW SAINT JOHN ON WEST GULFWAY ON WEST, ON THE WEST SIDE ON GULFWAY DRIVE AND THE FELLOWSHIP HALL STARTING AT 530. COUNCIL MEMBER FRANK. YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. I WANTED TO AGAIN CONGRATULATE JOE ARIF AND THE FAMILY. THIS PAST WEEK. COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. COUNCILWOMAN BECKHAM, THE MAYOR, MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER KINLAW. I THINK COUNCILMAN LEWIS WAS THERE AS WELL. WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND CELEBRATE WITH THEM BECAUSE CCP OPENED UP IN THE MALL. ALSO, FIVE BELOW IS COMING TO THE MALL AS WELL. OUR MALL IS EXPERIENCING A RESURGENCE. WE KNOW THAT MOST OF ALL SHOP ON AMAZON NOW, OR THE TIKTOK STORE OR WHEREVER WE GET OUR THINGS. WE DON'T DO A LOT OF SHOPPING, BUT IN A TIME WHERE MALLS ARE CLOSING, WE'RE EXPERIENCING A RESURGENCE HERE IN PORT ARTHUR OF OUR MALL, AND THEY'RE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB AS WELL. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT AND IMPERATIVE. ALSO, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND LOOK AT THE NEW OFFICES OF FORMER JUDGE CARL GRIFFITH HERE ON LAKESHORE DRIVE. HE BOUGHT THE OLD HOUSE THERE THAT WAS HAS A HISTORICAL MARKER ON IT. AND SO HE'S BRINGING HIS CONSULTING BUSINESS TO PORT ARTHUR PROPER. SO AND HE'S DONE THAT THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF THE EDC. AND SO WE WERE INVOLVED IN DOING THAT TO HELP BRING MORE AND MORE BUSINESS SUPPORT. ARTHUR, PORT ARTHUR IS EXPANDING. PORT ARTHUR IS GROWING. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SUPPORT OUR MALL AND SUPPORT ALL OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE SEEKING TO COME TO PORT ARTHUR BECAUSE THEY BRING JOBS. THEY KEEP YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR CITY AND THEY KEEP PEOPLE GAINFULLY EMPLOYED. SO THOSE ARE BIG THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER FRANK. COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, YES. IN ADDITION TO COMMENT ON THAT, THE COUNCIL, WE REZONE THAT PROPERTY AND WE TOOK IT OFF THE TAX EXEMPT LIST. IT IS NOW ON THE IT'LL BE PAYING TAXES TO THE TO THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. SO IT'S NO LONGER A TAX EXEMPT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HAVERFIELD. YOUR HANDS UP. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE UPCOMING YOUTH ADVISORY CONFERENCE IN CEDAR HILL, TEXAS. WE WILL BE TAKING THE YOUTH LEAVING FRIDAY MORNING TO TO CEDAR HILL FOR THIS CONFERENCE. I'M ASKING FOR PRAYERS FOR OUR TRAVELING GRACE, AND ALSO TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE STILL HAVE BINS OUT IN THE CITY BUILDING FOYERS TO PUT TOILETRY TYPES OF SUPPLIES IN THOSE BINS FOR OUR PORT CITIES RESCUE MISSION HOMELESS SHELTER. THIS IS A CONSTANT ACTIVITY FOR THE YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL. AND WE'RE. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT OUR CHILDREN ARE ACTIVE AND WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO PLEASE REACH OUT TO YOUR APPOINTEES AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO BE ACTIVE, BUT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT WORKING WITH THEM AND SUPPORTING THEM. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PHIL. IF THERE ARE NO MORE, ANY MORE COMMUNITY INTEREST OR COMMENTS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON NOW TO OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS NUMBER SIX, UNFINISHED

[VII. CONSENT AGENDA]

BUSINESS. WE HAVE NONE. WE'RE READY TO GO TO NUMBER SEVEN. OUR CONSENT AGENDA GOING TO COUNCIL. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO WITHHOLD ANY ITEMS, PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR LIGHTS, COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON PAGE FIVE. SEVEN. OKAY.

705. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BECKHAM. OH, I'M SORRY, YOU HAVE ANOTHER. NO. I'M OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBER BECKHAM, NUMBER SIX ON PAGE FOUR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF THAT'S ALL, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA. SO WITHOUT WITHHOLDING BUT WITHHOLDING ITEM NUMBER ALREADY, I. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. I'M SORRY. ITEM NUMBER SIX. AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. LET ME GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SO, MAYOR. OH, I GOT, I GOT A MOTION AND SEVERAL SECONDS. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I, I ALRIGHT. THE I ANY NOS. THE AYES HAVE IT.

[VII.C. (6) P.R. No. 24719 - A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Negotiate A Contract With PBK, Of Houston, Texas, For The Design Of A Nature/Visitor Center On Pleasure Island]

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT NOW TO PAGE NUMBER FOUR PR NUMBER 24719A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING

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CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH BP OF HOUSTON, TEXAS, FOR THE DESIGN OF A NATURE VISITOR CENTER ON PLEASURE ISLAND. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND, I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER. BECKHAM. THANK YOU. I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE GOT AN INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM ABOUT A WILDLIFE SANCTUARY AND A GREEN SPACE, SO I'M JUST I'M INTERESTED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHERE IS THIS NATURE SLASH VISITOR CENTER GOING TO BE, AND IS THIS ANYTHING IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT WE DID WITH LAMAR UNIVERSITY ABOUT REPURPOSING OR DOING SOME TYPE OF GREEN SPACE OR WHATEVER? I JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION. THESE ARE ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS. CHENIERE GAVE A DONATION FOR ACTUAL VISITOR CENTER. THE INTENT IS TO EXCUSE ME, NATURE VISITOR CENTER. THE INTENT IS TO PUT IT TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE ISLAND.

THE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ON THE FRONT LINE OF THE OLD GOLF COURSE. AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE SAME PROJECT. THAT'S WHAT LAMAR IS DOING. OKAY. SO THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR A VISITOR CENTER. PART OF IT IS BEING FUNDED BY CHENIERE TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE ISLAND.

CORRECT. THE LOCATION WILL BE IN FRONT OF THE ISLAND. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND SO THE GREEN SPACE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S ON THE PALMS GOLF COURSE, THAT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

YES, MA'AM. CORRECT. WHICH WHICH IS THE MEMO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? CORRECT. OKAY.

YES. AND SO WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THAT? WE'RE GOING TO BRING MORE INFORMATION TO YOU GUYS AS IT COMES. I THINK TWO MOU WILL BE ON THE NEXT ONE, THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA, AND THEN THERE WILL BE MAYBE 1 OR 2 MORE ABOUT FINANCES FROM THE COUNTY, A DONATION TYPE DEAL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I I'M SORRY. OH, OKAY. SORRY. I JUMPED AS FAST AS I COULD. YEAH. YOU GOTTA JUMP FAST BECAUSE I'M MOVING. OKAY? OKAY. HOLLAND.

OKAY. HOLLAND HOFER 3710. DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR DRIVE. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. SO THIS IS SEPARATE FROM THE GOLF COURSE. OKAY. WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE BUDGETING COST FOR THIS? I'M SORRY. WHAT WHAT IS THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT? A BUDGET FOR THE THIS PROJECT ON HERE WITH THE I DON'T KNOW, A DIRECTOR. YOU KNOW, THE COST OF THE PROJECT. NO. THIS ONE ACTUALLY IS FOR US TO NEGOTIATE HOW MUCH THAT IT IS. WE HAVE MONEY ALLOCATED FOR THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN, BUT NOT FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION YET. OKAY.

AND I'M SORRY, I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. DID YOU SAY THE MONEY WAS COMING BEING SUPPLIED BY CHENIERE? THAT'S HE. WE HAVE A PORTION OF IT. 50,000 IS DONATED FROM CHENIERE. OKAY.

AND I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. BEFORE WE SPEND ANY MORE MONEY OUT THERE ON PROJECTS, WHY AREN'T WE REPAIRING THE MARINA FIRST? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT DOES GENERATE INCOME, AND WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT? REPAIRING THE MARINA FIRST? BECAUSE THAT DOES GENERATE INCOME. AND I MY SECONDARY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT ALL IS THE CENTER GOING TO PROVIDE AND WHO IS IT GOING TO PROVIDE IT FOR? OKAY, I NEED A OUR DIRECTOR, HE'S ASKING ANOTHER QUESTION. HE'S ASKING, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? SURE. WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK THE DIRECTOR IS WHAT ALL IS THIS? NATURE VISITOR CENTER GOING TO PROVIDE? WHAT ALL IS GOING TO BE INSIDE IT? WHAT ACTIVITIES, WHAT? WHAT TYPE OF FEATURES, AND WHO IS IT SPECIFICALLY GOING TO PROVIDE FOR? LIKE IS IT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE ISLAND? IS IT FOR PEOPLE, PORT ARTHUR, PEOPLE FROM HOUSTON? WHAT, WHAT WHAT IS THIS FOR? WE DON'T IT'S NOT THE VISITOR CENTER THAT WILL BE ON PLEASURE ISLAND. THE VISITOR CENTER THAT. WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA? YES. 605. OKAY, OKAY. I, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION AS TO WHAT EXACTLY IS THE NATURE CENTER IS GOING TO BE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE SORT OF A MEETING ROOM FOR INDIVIDUALS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THINGS THAT'S ON THE ISLAND. IF IT'S THE BIRDING, IF IT'S THE DISC GOLF, WHATEVER WE HAVE ON THE ISLAND, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO COME THERE. YOU'LL GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SCHEDULE THE AUDUBON SOCIETY, COME IN AND TALK TO THE KIDS OR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, RATHER BE THE THE SCHOOLS HERE IN PORT ARTHUR, WHATEVER IT IS, THEY CAN COME AND, YOU KNOW, GET IN THE MEETING ROOM AND GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S ON PLEASURE ISLAND. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL I HAVE NO. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I ANY NO'S. THE AYES

[VII.C. (7) P.R. No. 24722 -A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into An Annual Agreement Between The City Of Port Arthur, Texas, And Granicus, Inc., Through Carahsoft Technology Corp., Pursuant To Texas Department Of Information Resources (DIR) Contract No. DIR-CPO-5687, For Host Compliance Services For The Monitoring, Permitting, Collection, And Management Of Short-Term Rentals Within The Corporate City Limits Of Port Arthur, Jefferson County, Texas, With A Projected Annual Budgetary Impact Of $26,458.31; Funding Available In The Development Services/Inspections And Permitting Computer Programs Account No. 001-13-035-5450-00- 10- 00]

HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE OVER TO PR NUMBER 24722. A RESOLUTION

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AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN ANNUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, AND GRANICUS, INCORPORATED THROUGH CARAHSOFT TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION PURSUANT TO TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION RESOURCES. CONTRACT NUMBER DRC 05687 FOR HOST COMPLIANCE SERVICES FOR THE MONITORING, PERMITTING, COLLECTION, AND MANAGEMENT OF SHORT TERM RENTALS WITHIN THE CORPORATE CITY LIMITS OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS, WITH A PROJECTED ANNUAL BUDGETARY IMPACT OF $26,458.31. FUNDING AVAILABLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, INSPECTIONS AND PERMITTING COMPUTER PROGRAMS ACCOUNT NUMBER 0011303554500010000. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER DOUCETTE YES, I READ ALL THE BACKGROUND ABOUT THE CONTRACT AND THE COMPANY. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS? HOW DOES THIS WORK? BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ENFORCING THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IDENTIFYING RENTALS, MONITORING RENTALS, FOLLOWING RENTALS ONLINE. ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY STUFF AND EVERYTHING. I BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THE GROUND BECAUSE THEY'LL BE ON THE GROUND. THEY WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS FOR $26,000. SO I NEED TO KNOW HOW THIS GOING TO FIT IN. YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS AND PRESENTATIONS WITH COUNCIL REGARDING THE NEED FOR ENFORCEMENT ON SHORT TERM RENTALS WITHIN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD WAS GOING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH GRANICUS TO HELP US, ONE, IDENTIFY ALL OF THE SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT EXIST THAT MAY BE ADVERTISED UNDER A LOT OF THE WEBSITES SUCH AS VRBO, AIRBNB AND SOME OTHER SITES THAT ARE OUT THERE. GRANICUS WILL HELP US WITH THE INTAKE PROCESS, BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE ASKING THESE SHORT TERM RENTAL PROVIDERS TO DO IS NOW REGISTERED WITH THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. IN REGISTERING WITH THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, THEY WOULD BE TREATED SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAGS, WHERE THEY WOULD PAY A FEE FOR REGISTRATION. IT ALSO HELPS US TO IDENTIFY THESE VARIOUS LOCATIONS SO WE CAN BEGIN THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. WITH THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORY. YES, SIR. IT'S JUST THAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS. BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENFORCING. YES, SIR, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE ENFORCEMENT. THAT IS CORRECT. SEE, THAT'S WHY I ASK YOU WHEN WE STARTED HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK. YES. BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING OUT THERE ON THE GROUND FOR NO. $26,000? NO, SIR. THEY PROVIDE THE DATA. WE DO THE ENFORCEMENT OUTSTANDING.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO GET A CLARIFICATION. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO GO GOOD. NOW, THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD TO THAT IS. YES, SIR. WE PAY 26,000 FOR THEM TO IDENTIFY. YES, WE NEED TO ENFORCE. THAT IS CORRECT. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT THE $26,000 DOES INCLUDE A ONE TIME FEE. SO THE COST MOVING FORWARD WON'T BE QUITE THAT MUCH. I READ THAT, YES, BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING FOR A SET UP, THE OF THE PROGRAM AND ALL THAT STUFF PERTAIN TO US. I GOT THAT PART. YES, SIR. YEAH, I'LL CALL IT THAT. BUT THERE'S A LOT TO READ. BUT I READ IT. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL MEMBER BECKHAM. THANK YOU. I HAVE NOW HAD SOME PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH GRANICUS BECAUSE THEY RECENTLY TOOK OVER THIS PROCESS IN BRAZORIA COUNTY, WHERE MY FAMILY OWNS SOME PROPERTY. THAT'S A SHO TERM RENTAL. YES, MA'AM. AND I JUST WANT TO PUT US ALL ON NOTICE THAT THERE ARE BUGS IN THE SYSTEM, AS CAN HAPPEN WITH ALL COMPUTER PROGRAMS LIKE THIS. YES. AND GRANTED, THEY ARE COMING IN AS A NEW PROVIDER FOR US. THEY'RE NOT TAKING OVER AN EXISTING SYSTEM LIKE THEY DID IN BRAZORIA COUNTY. YES, MA'AM. BUT WHEN I WENT TO PAY MY TAXES THAT WERE DUE ON JANUARY 20TH FOR THE LAST QUARTER OF LAST YEAR, IT WAS A COMPLETE DISASTER. SO I JUST I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE THAT, YES, THEY ARE GOING TO DO A REALLY GOOD SERVICE FOR US. YES, MA'AM.

BUT WHEN WE FIRST GET THE PROGRAM IN PLACE, IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO DO SOME KIND OF TEST RUN. YES, MA'AM. BEFORE THE FIRST QUARTERLY TAXES COME DUE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE PAYING. YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE I KNOW THEIR THEIR CITY DEPARTMENT THAT DEALS WITH THIS DOWN THERE. THEY WERE OVERRUN WITH COMPLAINTS. AND WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO COLLECT PEOPLE'S MONEY. YES, MA'AM. PEOPLE CAN GET REALLY ANGRY ABOUT THAT KIND OF STUFF. ABSOLUTELY. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST BE AWARE WHEN THEY FIRST PUT THE PLAN INTO PLACE, IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE, LIKE A TEST GROUP, A TEST RUN TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS DOING WHAT

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IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO, SO THAT WHEN WE'VE GOT IT IN PLACE, IT WORKS LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK. ABSOLUTELY. AND WE WILL ALSO WORK WITH MISS TAMMY KUTZER WITH THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, AS SHE'S FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS AS WELL, TO GET THAT TEST RUN GOING. GREAT. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. EVER FEEL. THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO REMIND US OF HOW IMPORTANT THE IMPLEMENTATION IS. I'M SEEING US. BUT REALLY, THE MANAGER.

I'M JUST REMINDING HOW IMPORTANT THE IMPLEMENTATION IS OF THIS PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN EARN THE MONEY THAT WE DESERVE. IT'S I THINK YOU SHARED PREVIOUSLY IT WAS APPROXIMATELY A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. SO WE WANT TO COLLECT EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS PAM, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AGAIN. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NO MORE LIGHTS AND EVERYBODY'S HAND IS DOWN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I. ANY NO'S? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE

[VIII.A.(1) P.R. No. 24647 - A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Purchase One (1) 2026 Freightliner Cascadia CA116-DC, Conventional Day Cab Tractor For The Public Works Streets Division (Streets) From Houston Freightliner Of Houston, Texas, Through The Houston-Galveston Area Council (HGAC), Contract No. HT06-20, With A Total Budgetary Impact Amount Of $152,805.00. Funding Is Available In The Capital Improvement Motor Vehicle Account, Account No. 625-21-053-8523-00-00-000]

RESOLUTION PASSES. WE'RE GOING TO NOW MOVE TO SECTION NUMBER EIGHT. ITEMS REQUIRING INDIVIDUAL ACTION NON CONSENT. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ON PAGE SIX. NUMBER ONE WE'RE GOING TO READ PR NUMBER 24647A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE ONE 2026 FREIGHTLINER CASCADIA CA116 DC CONVENTIONAL DAY CAB TRACTOR FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS STREET DIVISION. STREETS FROM HOUSTON. FREIGHTLINER OF HOUSTON, TEXAS, THROUGH THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL, A CONTRACT NUMBER 06-20 WITH A TOTAL BUDGETARY IMPACT AMOUNT OF $152,805.

FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS MOTOR VEHICLE ACCOUNT ACCOUNT NUMBER 6252105385230000000. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY NOS. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES PR

[VIII.A.(2) P.R. No. 24683 - A Resolution Authorizing Adjustments To Certain Water And Sewer Utility Accounts Due To Leaks And/Or Equipment Malfunction. Pursuant To Sections 110-97, 119-98, And 110-99 Of The City Of Port Arthur Code Of Ordinances]

NUMBER 24683. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ADJUSTMENTS TO CERTAIN WATER AND SEWER UTILITY ACCOUNTS DUE TO LEAKS AND OR EQUIPMENT MALFUNCTION PURSUANT TO SECTION 110-9711998 AND 11099 OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. I'VE GOT A MOTION. CAN I GET A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSIONS, COUNCILMEMBER DOUCETTE? YES. ON THE LEAKS. RIGHT. YES, YES. MAYOR DOUCETTE I'M SORRY, MAYOR PRO TEM. IS THAT OKAY? GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING. EVENING. I JUST CALLED YOU UP HERE TO LOOK AT. YOU KNOW I'M KIDDING. NO, NO. YEAH. I'M GETTING A SENSE OF HUMOR BECAUSE I'M. I'M GOING TO BE RILED UP TODAY. OKAY? I LOOKED AT TWO OF THE TWO OF THE ADJUSTMENTS. OKAY? ONE OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT I HAD CONCERNED WITH, I THINK, WAS THE RESIDENCE. THE ONE THAT'S IT WAS ONE MONTH ADJUSTMENT AND IT WAS LIKE, WHAT, 14,000? YES.

OKAY. NO, IT WAS 25,000. ONE MONTH ADJUSTMENT. 25,000. IT WAS PERTAINING TO A LEAK. THE ONE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER. RIGHT. IT WAS A ONE MONTH ADJUSTMENT IN THE IN THE IN THE COST WAS WHAT, $25,941.63. THAT WAS FOR A FOR VESSEL REPAIR. YES. THAT'S A LEAK. YES. OKAY. WHAT SIDE OF THE LEAK WAS ON THAT LEAK WAS ON THE PROPERTY SIDE. OKAY.

ALRIGHT. I'M NOT GOING TO DISCUSS THAT ONE. I WANT TO GO TO THE SECOND ONE NEXT AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AND COMBINE THEM, NOT MAKE THIS SHORT. OKAY. NOW THE SECOND ONE WAS A COMMERCIAL.

IT WAS FOR EIGHT MONTHS ADJUSTMENT AND IT CAME INTO 14,970 2000 SOMETHING. AND IT WAS A LEAK, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND WHERE WAS THAT LEAK? THAT LEAK WAS ON THE PROPERTY SIDE AS WELL. YOU SEE, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. AND WE KEEP DOING THIS. YOU KNOW, WE WE TALK ABOUT WATER UTILITY. WE TALK ABOUT RAISING THE RATE, THE WATER RATE FOR CITIZENS TO

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DO ALL THESE THINGS. BUT WE KEEP LOSING MONEY WITH THIS. WHY DO WE HAVE TO GIVE MONEY OR HELP PEOPLE? BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REPAIRING A LEAK ON THEIR PROPERTY. THIS MONEY WE KEEP ADJUSTING LIKE THIS. THIS IS WHAT THE REST OF THE PEOPLE GOTTA PAY. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOREVER AND EVER. WHENEVER SOMEONE WATER BILLS SPIKES, THAT'S NORMALLY THE WAY YOU DETERMINE IT. WHEN IT SPIKES OR SOMETHING, WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY CALL, THEY COME DOWN AND SAY, LOOK, MY WATER BILL HIGH. THEY SAY, OKAY, THEN YOU GO OUT AND YOU CHECK. YOU CHECK TO FIND OUT WHETHER THE LEAK IS ON THE CITY SIDE OR THE PROPERTY OWNER SIDE. RIGHT? RIGHT. IF IT'S ON THEIR SIDE, THEN THEIR TOLL IS ON THEIR SIDE. OKAY. NOW THEY SHOULD GET IT FIXED. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT ADJUSTING WATER BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS JUST BEEN TOLD, YOU GOTTA WALK, YOU GOTTA LEAK ON YOUR SIDE. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST FINE. THIS IS 39,000.

NO, THIS IS OVER $40,000 THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADJUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY DON'T REPAIR A LEAK ON THEIR SIDE. WE CAN'T DO BUSINESS THAT WAY. I'M TIRED OF SAYING, AM I THE ONLY ONE? SEE THIS? WE CAN'T DO BUSINESS THAT WAY. THIS IS A CITY. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE TODAY, OKAY? WE HAVE TO RUN IT LIKE THE CITY. IF IT'S ON OUR SIDE, THEN WE ADJUST. IF THE METER IS BROKE, WE ADJUST. CITIZENS SHOULD NEVER BE CHARGED SOMETHING FOR WHAT WE FAIL TO DO OR IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THEM MAINTAINING THEIR LINES ON THEIR SIDE, WE GOTTA STOP THIS. THIS IS JUST TWO THAT'S COMING BEFORE US. BUT THAT'S NOT ALL OF THE ONES WE'RE DOING CONSTANTLY. WE HAVE GOT TO COUNSEL. IF WE KEEP IF WE TALK ABOUT RAISING RATES AND WE KEEP DOING THIS, THAT'S DEFEATING THE PURPOSE, THAT'S DEFEATING THE PURPOSE BECAUSE WE'RE RAISING RATE BASED ON REVENUE WE'RE DRAWING. BUT YET NOW WE'RE LETTING A LOT OF REVENUE GO BACK BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE SENSIBLE THING.

WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WATER LINES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE CAN'T KEEP OPERATING LIKE THIS.

THIS IS NOT FAIR TO CITIZENS WHO PAY FOR THIS WATER, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE RATE INCREASE. I SAID IT ONCE. I SAID IT TWICE. I AM TIRED SAYING, AM I THE ONLY PERSON THAT SEE THIS? YES, THE COUNCIL APPROVED A CHANGE IN THE THIS ORDINANCE ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE LAST ADJUSTMENT THAT WILL BE UNDER THE OLD ORDINANCE, BECAUSE ONCE IT'S BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND THE LEAKS ARE REPAIRED, IT'S ABOUT THREE MONTHS OF REGULAR USE BEFORE WE ADJUST THE NEW ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED BY COUNCIL PUTS ABOUT 40% ON, ON ON THE CLIENT. THE CUSTOMER PREVIOUS TO THAT, IT WAS JUST A FULL REFUND. SO GOING FORWARD FROM ABOUT NOW, THE THE ADJUSTMENTS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT. HOWEVER, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE NO ADJUSTMENT, THAT'S YOURS. WE'LL DO WHATEVER COUNCIL SAYS. I WELL I TELL YOU I THAT'S THAT'S NOT OUR CHOICE. I MEAN WE WILL WE WILL DO WHATEVER WE'RE DIRECTED BY COUNCIL. I DO KNOW OF A PLACE WHERE THERE IS NO ADJUSTMENT, AND I HAPPEN TO HAVE A HOUSE THERE, AND I HAD TO PAY FOR A BIG LEAK ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.

SO THEY DO EXIST. WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND AND EVEN 40%, YOU KNOW, WHY? WHY 40%? IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I HEAR CITIZENS COMPLAINING ABOUT OUR RATE INCREASE AND YOU SAY, WELL, WE HAVE TO DO THIS, WE HAVE TO DO THIS, WE HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT THEN AGAIN, IF

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WE'RE DOING THAT TO TRY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE, THEN WHY AREN'T WE HOLDING EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE TO PAY FOR THE WATER FOR WHICH GOES THROUGH THAT METER? YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S JUST THE THINK AND AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING I TELL YOU, I, I JUST BE CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR? I MEAN, I LIKE FOR YOU TO DO THIS WHEN YOU PASS THE TIME, CHECK AND SEE IF ANY CITIES GIVE ADJUSTMENT FOR WATER THAT ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH THE METER. YEAH. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY HARD TO SEE SOMEBODY DOING THAT. JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE ONLY CHARGE FOR WATER THAT GOES THROUGH THE METER. A LEAK ON OUR SIDE CAN IMPACT THE METER.

SO JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO THE I UNDERSTAND I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND. YEAH. WELL, SEE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T. BUT THIS IS JUST TO CLARIFY THIS 40% OF AND ARE CHARGING A PERCENTAGE. OKAY. BECAUSE I CAN'T BELIEVE CITIES WILL ACTUALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH TRYING TO GIVE AN ADJUSTMENT IF A, IF IF IT GOES THROUGH THE METER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE GIVE ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE THOSE METERS SOMETIMES YOU GET A BAD METERS AND IT'S NOT READING. BUT ONCE WE DETERMINE THE METER IS BAD THEN WE GO THROUGH THE ADJUSTMENT THEN. SO THE CITIZENS NOW GET A FAIR SHAKE. AND IF IT'S A GRAY AREA, WE SHOULD ALWAYS SIDE WITH THE CITIZENS TO GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW WE DO BUSINESS.

WHAT? BUT THE WATER GOING THROUGH THE METER? NO, WE SHOULDN'T PAY NO PERCENTAGE OF THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T DO IT FOR THE OTHER CITIZENS WHERE IT'S GOING THROUGH THE METER THAT THAT'S WHAT. OH GO AHEAD CALVIN. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS, IS Y'ALL KNOW Y'ALL HAVE APPROVED A METER REPLACEMENT. THAT IS IN THE PHASES OF BEGINNING. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK IT OUT WITH TYLER SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE BILLING CORRECT. AND THAT WILL BE STARTING VERY SOON ON THIS AGENDA. I THINK IT WAS A CONSENT. YOU APPROVED SELKOE TO HELP US WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT. SO WE WILL BE REPLACING EVERY METER IN THE CITY WITH VERY, VERY ACCURATE METERS AND ALSO GIVE THE CITIZENS ONCE IN ABOUT NINE MONTHS AFTER STARTING, WE'LL GET SOME DATA IN THE DATABASE. THEY'LL BE ABLE TO OPEN AN APP AND IT WILL INTERFACE AND TELL THEM IF THEY HAVE LEAKS, CONTINUOUS FLOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO THAT'S COMING.

AWESOME. SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I HAVE A COUPLE OF LIGHTS, COUNCILMEMBER KINLAW AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR CALVIN CLARDY. MY THING IS THIS, YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT THE MONTHS OF THOSE TWO THAT MAYOR PRO TEM PULLED OUT. WHY WAS IT WHY DID IT TAKE EIGHT MONTHS FOR THAT TO BE RECTIFIED? AND I AND I'M SAYING THIS, GUYS, AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I GET A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT METERS. I'M GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU. AND MOST OF THE TIMES IT'S OUR FAULT AND AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN FIND WAYS TO RECTIFY.

AND WE DID APPROVE THE METER REPORT. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. I WANTED TO DO TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ACCURATE AND DECISIVE READINGS ON OUR METERS. COUNCILMAN DOUCET, MYSELF, COUNCILMAN LEWIS, COUNCILMAN FRANK WAS AT A CONFERENCE AND ONE OF THE TOPICS WAS METERS. AND BEING IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS, WE GOT UNEVEN GROUND CHANGING GROUNDS. ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED, CALVIN, MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR AGO. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I, I TRULY VALUE THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT'S A COST.

THAT'S A HEFTY COST BEING EIGHT MONTHS TO FIND OUT IF IT'S THE METER OR IF IT'S THE PROPERTY SIDE OR IT'S A CITY SIDE. WHAT TAKES EIGHT MONTHS TO RECTIFY THIS TYPE OF SITUATION? AND MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN LET ME KNOW ABOUT THAT. LET ME SEE IF I SEE SOMETHING THAT'S I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW METERS BECAUSE, WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE NEW METERS. BUT ONCE WE GET THE NEW METERS, IT'LL BE A LOT BETTER BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU DATA ON THAT, YOU KNOW? AND I REMEMBER, KEVIN, YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT THE METERS, MAN, IT WAS GREAT. IT WAS IT WAS INFORMATIVE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, I CALL CLAUDIA ALL THE TIME HER SUPERVISOR ABOUT METERS AND AND WATER GOING THROUGH METERS. AND THEN WE FIND OUT LATER THAT IT'S OUR FAULT. I'M. HEY, WE'RE MAKING CHANGES. WE'RE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT TO LOOK AT EIGHT MONTHS ON BOTH OF THOSE TWO INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTS, HOW CAN WE RECTIFY THAT? HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT BETTER? WHAT'S THE THING THAT'S CAUSING IT TO BE THAT LONG OF A TIME PERIOD AND THEN TO GET THAT TYPE OF REIMBURSEMENT, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS ON THE PROPERTY BEFORE WE COULD MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS. SOMETIMES WE CAN'T GET TO THE AREA IN ORDER TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT, AND SOMETIMES THAT WILL CAUSE US TO GO A LONG TIME BEFORE WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS. BUT ONCE THE CONSUMPTION GOES BACK DOWN TO A NORMAL CONSUMPTION AND WE CAN GET SOME AVERAGES TO WHERE WE CAN MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT ON THE ACCOUNT AT THAT TIME, THAT'S WHEN WE APPLY THE ADJUSTMENT TO THE ACCOUNT. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER

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EVER FEEL THANK YOU MAYOR. CITY MANAGER IF YOU REMEMBER IF YOU DON'T IT'S OKAY IN THE ORDINANCE IN THE NEW ORDINANCE THAT WE APPROVED A FEW MONTHS AGO, DID WE DISCUSS THAT 40% BEING PROVIDED TO THOSE WHO HAVE PROVEN FINANCIAL HARDSHIP? THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD, OR IS IT JUST 40% ACROSS THE BOARD? AND IF IT ISN'T, I WOULD ASK THAT WE PLEASE REVIEW THAT ORDINANCE SO THAT WE CAN BE FAIR TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT HAVING THESE ISSUES AND NOT HAVE THAT TO BE SHARED COST FOR THE REST OF THE THE CITIZENS. MAKE THAT DETERMINATION ON THE FOURTH. YEAH, YEAH. COUNCIL CITY MANAGER. YES. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO. COUNCIL GO AHEAD. YEAH IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD. BUT AS CALVIN INDICATED, THERE ARE SOME MUNICIPALITIES THAT DON'T GRANT, YOU KNOW, A WAIVER AT ALL. SO IF WE I MEAN WE CAN AMEND THE ORDINANCE THOUGH I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF SLAPPING 100%, GETTING THEM TO PAY 100% OF IT, I AM I MEAN, YOU HAVE A CORPORATE AMERICA GETTING AWAY WITH $26,000, OKAY, THAT WE COULD USE, YOU KNOW, SLAP IT ON. YEAH. I JUST I JUST WANT US TO MAYOR, IF WE COULD. AND I'M NOT AT ALL ASKING FOR A WORKSHOP. I'M JUST ASKING FOR US TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE AGAIN SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT KICKING OURSELVES IN THE SHIN WHEN WE KNOW OF THE FINANCIAL GROWTH THAT WE'RE WANTING FOR OUR CITY AND THE SHARED COST THAT THE CITIZENS ARE HAVING TO TO COMMIT WITH THE INCREASED WATER FEES. SURE. YES, THAT'S FINE WITH ME. BUT LET ME, LET ME, LET ME JUST ASK A QUESTION. THE ORDINANCE BY WHICH WE'RE GIVING THIS PARTICULAR WHAT IS THE ORDINANCE SAY RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE GIVING THIS THIS PERSON'S GRANDFATHERED IN. BUT WHAT IS THE ORDINANCE STATE THAT WAS VOTED ON. AND SEE WE THE CITIZENS NOT GETTING A VERY GOOD VIEW BECAUSE HE'S THEY'RE GETTING THIS ADJUSTMENT BASED ON A CITY COUNCIL VOTING ON AN ORDINANCE TO DO THIS. SO IT'S GIVING THEM THE RIGHT TO HAVE THAT ADJUSTMENT. SO WE JUST CHANGED THE ORDINANCE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, WHICH IS THE LAST SIX MONTHS, TO ADJUST THAT ADJUSTMENT. CORRECT? CORRECT. THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE WAS BASICALLY A 100% REFUND. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GETTING 100% CITIZEN IS BECAUSE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTED ON THIS ORDINANCE TO GIVE 100% LONG AGO, LONG TIME AGO. CORRECT. AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GETTING IT NOW. WE'VE GOT WE VOTED ON A NEW ORDINANCE ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO. THAT'S GOING TO AMEND THAT ORDINANCE TO GIVE ONLY 40%. IF THE LEAK IS ON THEIR PROPERTY. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. IF IT GOES TO THE METER, IF IT GOES TO THE METER WITH THE NEW METERS. SO WE'VE REDUCED IT FROM 100% TO 40%. AND WE'VE ALSO REDUCED IT BECAUSE IF THEY HAVEN'T REPORTED THAT LEAK WITHIN THREE MONTHS, THEN THEY DON'T GET THAT LEAK. SO THEY WILL NOT GET THAT DISCOUNT. THEY WON'T GET THAT AMENDMENT. THEY WON'T GET THAT. OKAY. SO NOW NOW WE WANT TO BRING BACK THAT ORDINANCE OKAY. BECAUSE ALL THIS NOW THAT WAS THIS COUNCIL RIGHT OKAY. SO NOW THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO BRING BACK THAT ORDINANCE THAT GIVES 40% ADJUSTMENT TO RESIDENTS, 60% ADJUSTMENT TO NOW AMEND IT AGAIN, AM I RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. EXACTLY RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO BUT SO THIS COUNCIL HAS CHANGED ITS MIND AND WE WANT TO BRING IT BACK. OKAY. SO MAYOR I THINK I DON'T REMEMBER OKAY. SO WE'LL DO THAT. AND SO WE CAN MOVE ON FOR THE FACT OF WHAT OTHER CITIES DO. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. SPEAKING OF MIKE. YEAH. WE WILL START RESEARCHING WHAT OTHER CITIES. PLEASE BRING US A SURVEY. BRING US A SURVEY BACK AND ANALYSIS ABOUT WHAT OTHER TEXAS CITIES DO AND THEIR ADJUSTMENTS, AND THEN WE CAN ADEQUATELY MAKE A DECISION ON HOW TO GET THIS THING RIGHT AND FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A I GOT AN APPROVAL IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY NOS? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER THREE

[VIII.A. (3) P.R. No. 24688 -A Resolution Awarding A Bid And Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into An Agreement With Texas Materials Group, Inc., Of Beaumont, Texas, For The Street Rehabilitation Program (District One) For The Amount Of $5,761,596.47. Funding Available In The Capital Streets Account No. 307-21-053-8517-00- 10-000 Various Project Numbers]

PR NUMBER 24688. A RESOLUTION AWARDING A BID AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH TEXAS MATERIALS GROUP INCORPORATED OF BEAUMONT, TEXAS, FOR THE STREET REHABILITATION PROGRAM. DISTRICT ONE, FOR THE AMOUNT OF $5,000,761 $596.47. FUNDING AVAILABLE IN THE CAPITAL STREETS ACCOUNT NUMBER 3072 105385 1700. DASH 10000.

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VARIOUS PROJECT NUMBERS. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION. I GOT A MOTION APPROVAL. AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE AYE. OH, I'LL GET WITH THE STAFF. OKAY. I NEED A COPY OF THE LIST OF THE STREETS.

OKAY. WE'LL GET THEM TO YOU. OKAY? OKAY. IT'S ATTACHED. IT WAS IN THE BACKGROUND COUNCIL.

IT WAS IN THE BACKGROUND. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT ONE TOO. OH, WE ALREADY VOTED. NO, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. WE VOTED. WE VOTED Y'ALL. WE VOTED ON WHAT? WE VOTED ON THIS. WHAT? OKAY.

246 CITY SECRETARY, HAVE WE DID WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR. AND HE KNOWS AND WE CLOSE IT OUT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. QUESTION. I WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD LIKE TO BE COUNCIL MEMBER DOUCET. YES I WOULD LIKE THIS ITEM. WE VOTED. WE VOTED AND WE'VE MOVED ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

OKAY. NOW WE GET TO THE PROCEDURAL PART. NOW, MAYOR. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT IS OVER. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO NUMBER FOUR. MAYOR. THAT'S MAYOR. WE HAVE VOTED. MAYOR.

POINT OF ORDER, POINT OF ORDER. IT CAN BE RECONSIDERED BY COUNCIL. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK.

I'M GOING TO GO TO THE COUNCIL. NO, NO. MAYOR. COUNCIL. MAYOR. YES WE ARE. MAYOR IS MY POINT OF ORDER. AND THE VOTE IS OVER. OKAY, SO YOU ENTERTAIN MY POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR. YOU ENTERTAIN MY POINT OF ORDER. WHAT'S YOUR. NOT YOUR ORDER, OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR POINT OF ORDER? MY POINT OF ORDER IS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THIS RESOLUTION. BECAUSE I HAVE A COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. CITY COUNCIL. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A VOTE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

THERE WE GO. OKAY. CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE A POINT OF ORDER TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON PR NUMBER 24688. QUESTION. YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES, QUESTION ABOUT THE POINT OF ORDER. IS THE POINT OF ORDER? CAN WE TURN THE MIC ON? YEAH. WHAT'S THE QUESTION? YEAH. YOUR MIC IS THE POINT OF ORDER. IS THE POINT OF ORDER SIMPLY TO MAKE A COMMENT BECAUSE THE THE VOTE HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. IT'S SIMPLY TO MAKE A COMMENT. CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY, OKAY. WE'LL CONSIDER THE POINT OF ORDER. ALL IN FAVOR SAY I, I AND HE KNOWS THE AYES HAVE IT. YOU MAY CONSIDER YOUR MAKE YOUR COMMENT. THANK YOU OKAY WITH THIS ONE COUNCILMAN LEWIS THAT'S DISTRICT ONE. AND I LOOKED AT THOSE STREETS AND THOSE STREETS. MOST OF THEM LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE SOME TYPE OF. WATER UTILITIES INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY. DID YOU KNOW THAT? NO. OKAY OKAY. BECAUSE I, I, I LOOKED AT THAT AND FOUND IT ODD. THEN I WENT BACK TO THE BUDGET AND I LOOKED AT THE STREETS THAT WERE WHERE THE MONEY THAT WAS IDENTIFIED PER DISTRICT, ACCORDING TO THE BUDGET AND THE MONEY THAT'S IDENTIFIED HERE DOESN'T, DOESN'T COINCIDE. I ALSO WENT TO OUR LIST THAT WE HAVE FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, AND THEY'RE ALLOCATING EXACTLY FOR FOUR POINT SOME MILLION FOR EACH DISTRICT. SO THESE DOCUMENTS ARE ALL SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STREETS. AND I KEEP SAYING I'VE HEARD COMMENTS ABOUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A STREET PLAN. THE CITY HAS HAD A STREET PROGRAM SINCE 2019. IT HAS NEVER BEEN CHANGED. IT HAS NEVER BEEN ALTERED. IT HAS NEVER BEEN AMENDED. IT'S BEEN IN PLACE. THE STAFF IN COUNCIL HAS NOT ENFORCED AND FOLLOWED IT. BECAUSE IF WE DID, RIGHT NOW, THOSE STREETS THAT YOU SEE MENTIONED WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE LIST OF STREETS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE BUDGET AND IDENTIFIED AND THERE WOULD BE NO QUESTIONS. OKAY. BUT THOSE STREETS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, THAT MONEY IS GOING TO NOT JUST STREETS IN YOUR DISTRICT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WATER UTILITIES UNDER THERE BECAUSE OF THE STREETS WITH WITH SEWAGE AND WATER LINES. BEFORE A LIST COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR DISTRICT FOUR. IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THE PROGRAM SAYS I GET WITH STAFF, I APPROVE. THEN WE

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BRING IT TO THE TO THE TO THE COUNCIL. I'M NOT GOING TO DO ALL THESE STREETS IN MY DISTRICT THAT HAS WATER UTILITY UNDER THEM, BECAUSE I WON'T GET BUT 2 OR 3 STREETS. I GOT TOO MANY STREETS. CITIZENS ARE ASKING WHAT'S HAPPENING. EVERY ONE OF THESE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION THAT WE GO AND GET, IT SAYS, FOR CONSTRUCTION, RECONSTRUCTION OF STREETS, CONSTRUCTION, RECONSTRUCTION OF STREETS. THAT'S WHAT THE MONEY WAS GOTTEN FOR, NOT DO WATER UTILITIES. OR PUBLIC WORK DRAINAGE PROJECTS. I'VE SEEN DRAINAGE PROJECTS, PARKING LOTS, STREET LIGHTS. WELL, I TELL YOU, THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN PLACE AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN PLACE.

IT JUST AIN'T BEEN FOLLOWED, WHICH IS CREATING A PROBLEM FOR THE CITIZENS. THAT'S WHY WHEN THE CITIZENS START COMPLAINING AND ASKING US WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING, WE START ALL KIND OF RESPONSE. CITIZENS SAY WE SPEND 30% ON WHAT WORK BOULEVARD. IT'S THE TRUTH. IT SAID WE DIDN'T KNOW. WE DID GO BACK AND DO THE NUMBERS. OKAY, WE HAVE GOT TO FOLLOW THIS PROGRAM. WE HAVE GOT TO START USING STREET MONEY FOR THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH WE'RE SELLING THESE BONDS IS TOO MANY. TOO MUCH MONEY BEING SPENT OTHER THAN ON THESE STREETS AND ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE SOLD THESE BONDS FOR. AND THE REASON I'M THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING, BECAUSE I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE THAT'S FOLLOWING IT. WE DON'T DO NEW STREETS WITH THIS MONEY. WE DON'T DO DESIGNS FOR NEW STREETS WITH THIS MONEY. WE DON'T DO PARKING LOTS WITH THIS MONEY, AND WE DON'T DO DRAINAGE PROJECTS WITH THIS MONEY. THE SAME TWO BLOCKS OF STREETS ON 13 REDWOOD THAT WE'VE DONE. UTILITY AND DRAINAGE PROJECT WITH STREET MONEY. RICE FARM ROAD DRAINAGE PROJECT. THAT'S BEST. A PORTION OF IT. YES. COMING FROM STREET FUNDS, THOSE ARE STREET FUNDS. NOW, I DON'T KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN LIZ, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROVE IT, YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT KNOWN BECAUSE. CITY MANAGER, I WOULD LIKE TO GET WITH STAFF BEFORE YOU BRING THIS FOR DISTRICT FOUR, BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO LET STAFF DO STREETS THAT GOT WATER UTILITIES UNDER. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO

[VIII.A. (4) P.R. No. 24703 -A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Professional Services Agreement With The Solco Group, LLC Of Port Arthur, Texas To Assist With The Construction Management Of The Water Meter And AMI System Replacement/Upgrade Project, In The Total Amount Of $134,805.00. Funds Are Available In Account No. 405-40-000-8516-00-00-000, Project No. WS0031.]

NUMBER FOUR PR NUMBER 24703, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE SOLE CODE GROUP, LLC OF PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, TO ASSIST WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT OF THE WATER METER AND ARMY SYSTEM REPLACEMENT UPGRADE PROJECT AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $134,805. FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT NUMBER 405 40000. DASH 85160000000. PROJECT NUMBER 10031. E N G. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER DOUCETTE? YES. CITY MANAGER. I READ ALL OF THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION FOR THIS.

YES. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. OKAY. I'M GONNA WAIT TILL HE GET UP HERE. HEY, HEY, YOU SAW THAT? YEAH. HOLD ON, HOLD ON. LOOK HOW I'M LOOKING AT HIM. HEY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

CALVIN, LET HIM FINISH HIS STATEMENT AND THEN YOU'LL SPEAK. HEY, I DON'T KNOW THE QUESTION, OKAY? YEAH, I'M GOING TO LET HIM FINISH AND THEN. OKAY. YES. I WANT TO KNOW WHY ARE WE GOING TO HIRE THIS FIRM TO OVERSEE THIS? BECAUSE I READ ALL THE BACKGROUND AND I WAS SCOPED.

IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT THIS COMPANY TO DO, OKAY? AND THEY'RE GOING TO AGREE TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I READ EVERYTHING, AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WHY DON'T WE HAVE SOMEONE TO GO OUT ONCE A DAY AT THE END OF THE DAY OR SOMETHING, TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE? AND WHY CAN'T WE TAKE A LOOK AT IF THEY'RE WORKING THAT DAY, IF THEY'RE NOT WORKING THAT DAY? NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO SUBMITTING REPORTS, IF WE SUBMIT THE REPORT, THEN WE ARE INVOLVED. OKAY. YOU KNOW, THIS IS 130 SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS, $135,000 THAT WE'RE GOING TO

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PAY SOMEBODY. AND I'M LOOKING AT WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PAYING THE COMPANY TO DO TO CHANGE THE METERS. WE'RE PAYING THEM TO CHANGE THE METERS. IF SOMETHING AIN'T RIGHT, WE GOTTA HAVE SOME TYPE OF WARRANTY WHERE THEY GOTTA COME BACK AND MAKE GOOD OF IT. THAT'S A CONTRACT. WHY ARE WE GOING TO PAY THEM 100? I MEAN, PAY THEM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DO IT. THEY'RE GOING TO PAY SOMEBODY $135 TO COME BACK AND TALKING ABOUT ASSISTING THEM. THEY DON'T NEED ASSISTANCE. WE'RE PAYING THEM TO DO THIS. WE'RE PAYING THEM $1 MILLION TO DO THIS, OVER $1 MILLION TO DO THIS. I SEE THESE THINGS. I JUST I JUST TELL ME.

TELL ME WHAT? WHY DO WE NEED? OKAY, CAL? OKAY. THE CITY WATER UTILITIES. WE HAVE TWO ENGINEERS AND TWO ENGINEERS IN TRAINING. WE'RE BIDDING SABINE PASS, WHICH IS 500,000 PLUS SEWER JOB. IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT JOB. WE ARE ABOUT TO BID CITYWIDE. TWO, WHICH IS 2 MILLION, $2 MILLION JOB. AND WE'RE HALF BID AND HAVE AWARDED A $10 MILLION JOB. SO THIS 100 AND WHATEVER THOUSAND, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER IS FOR A $10 MILLION JOB. SO PERCENTAGE WISE IT'S VERY, VERY LOW. SOCO HAS GIVEN US A VERY GOOD PRICE. AND WE ARE STRETCHED TOO THIN TO GO OUT AND SEE THREE JOBS. AND WE'RE ALSO DESIGNING CITYWIDE TWO ALONG HELPING HAND UNDER HIS CONTRACT TO GET CITYWIDE TWO OUT FOR DESIGN. AND WE HAVE OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON SO WE DON'T HAVE STAFF. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 3 OR 4 ENGINEERS, AND I THINK SUHAIL WOULD TOO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THEM AND IT'S VERY HARD TO HIRE THEM. BUT FROM A PERCENTAGE STANDPOINT, THIS IS A VERY LOW COST CONTRACT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A I DON'T WANT TO THROW MY FIRE CHIEF UNDER THE BUS, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE A FIRE STATION THAT WAS BEING BUILT WITHOUT A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO WATCH IT, AND THEY'RE FIREMEN AND THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO REALLY WATCH IT. SO PLUS WE'RE DOING ORDINANCES. IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO GET ALL THIS PAPERWORK UP TO YOU. I THINK OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL AGREE THAT IT'S QUITE A BIT OF WORK DURING THE TWO WEEKS BEFORE COUNCIL TO GET THIS PAPERWORK IN. IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE. OKAY, I NEED HELP. OKAY. CALVIN, I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID. OH, AND WE HAVE WATER LINE JOBS. WE WE'VE JUST GOT AWARDED 16 MILLION. THAT HASN'T HIT MY RADAR BECAUSE IT'S. BUT IT WAS THIS MORNING. WE'RE WE'RE WORKING. WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH PROJECTS WE GOT TO DIVIDE THOSE 16 MILLION INTO THREE SETS OF PROJECTS SO WE CAN, BECAUSE OF THE COST, HAVE GONE UP SINCE 22. WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PICK THE RIGHT JOBS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD THEM ALL FOR 2016 MILLION. SO BASICALLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE OVER OVERSEEING ALL THESE DIFFERENT. THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US BE IN THE FIELD, EYES IN THE FIELD TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE APPROVE A PAY ESTIMATE, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND 10,000,000 IN 1 YEAR. OKAY.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY EVERY MONTH TO BE APPROVING. I HAVE TO SIGN IT. AND WHEN I SIGN IT, I NEED TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THAT MILLION DOLLARS I'M GIVING YOU WAS ACTUALLY DONE. AND YES, IT'S UNDER WARRANTY AND EVERYTHING, BUT YOU COULD END UP IN COURT. AND IT IS. YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH WATER METERS, WHICH IS OUR CASH REGISTERS. NOW BACK TO OUR ITEM HERE. YES, SIR. I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON WHY WE NEED IT FOR THESE WATER METERS. BECAUSE IT WAS I READ WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE DOING WITH THAT AND I DIDN'T SEE IT. YOUR ANSWER TO ME WAS YOU STARTED NAMING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ALL OVER THE CITY, AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HELP WITH THAT, RIGHT? NO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HELP WITH THAT, SIR. THEY'RE GOING THEY'RE GOING TO RELIEVE SOME PRESSURE HERE SO WE CAN WORK OVER HERE. WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO BE ON ALL OF THESE. I GOT I GOT THAT POINT, CALVIN. I'M NOT OKAY. I'VE ASKED THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN I'VE ASKED YOU, WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT? IT WAS STRICTLY BASED ON WHAT I READ AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. YES, SIR. AND AND I'M LOOKING AT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, AND I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE PAYING SOMEBODY MILLION DOLLARS TO DO. I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE COMPANY WE PAID, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO KNOW HOW TO DO IT. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT WHEN THEY FINISH DOING IT. BEFORE WE GIVE THEM A LETTER OF COMPLETION AND GIVE THEM THEIR RETAINAGE AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF IN THE CONTRACT BEFORE WE DO THAT, THEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO THEN ENSURE THAT IT WAS DONE AND IT MEETS THE STANDARDS.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

BUT WE'RE PAYING THEM. SO I JUST WANTED TO GET AN UNDERSTAND THAT I'M PRETTY MUCH

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HEARING IT. BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, I SEE A LOT OF FIRMS MANAGEMENT AND CONTRACT. BUT YET NOW WHEN I READ ACTUALLY WHAT THESE PEOPLE GETTING PAID ALL THIS MONEY TO DO, WHEN I READ WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THEY'RE TELLING ME DURING ALL OF THIS, THEY TELL ME THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

THEY'RE TELLING ME THEY'RE GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS FOR THIS MONEY. SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO ALL THIS FOR THIS MONEY BEFORE I GIVE THEM THE MONEY, I'M GOING TO ENSURE THAT THEY DONE IT. OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT AN EVERYDAY DEAL. BUT I GOT THIS ANSWER. LET'S MOVE ON. I HAVE LIGHTS, COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS. YES, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU GOT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU SPEND A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND YOU GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE LOOKING. YOU CANNOT TRUST. YOU CANNOT TRUST THE COMPANY THAT'S DOING THE WORK, REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'RE SPENDING, YOU CAN'T TRUST THEM. AND THE SPECS MAY BE WRONG. AND INSPECT IF THE IF THE SPECS THAT YOU DESIGN IS WRONG, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT GO WITH THE SPECS AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THEM AGAIN.

THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT JUST LIKE THE SPECS CALL FOR OKAY. AND THEY KNOW IT'S WRONG. BUT THEN THEY'RE GOING TO PAY. YOU GOT TO PAY THEM TO UNDO IT. THAT IS CORRECT. SO I DID A LOT OF INSPECTIONS. I PROCESS AND ANALYZE THE TECHNICIAN FOR THE OIL COMPANIES INSTRUMENTATION.

I DID A LOT OF INSPECTION. WE HIRED COMPANIES, PAY THEM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. BUT I CAUGHT A LOT OF THINGS IN THE SPECS. WAS WRONG. THE WRONG MATERIAL WOULD RUST AND PUT IN AN AIRLINE THAT IT'S GOING TO CORRODE WHEN YOU GET AN AIRLINE, AND NOW IT'S GOING TO CORRODE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE INSTRUMENT. YOU CANNOT TRUST THOSE COMPANIES. THEY WILL GET YOU AND YOU YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T TURN YOUR BACK. THEY WILL GET YOU. AND BY THE TIME YOU CATCH UP WITH THEM AND FIND OUT HOW BAD IT IS, IT IS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT YOU DIDN'T PAY THEM. NOW YOU GOT TO PAY THEM TO UNDO IT BECAUSE THE SPECS IS WRONG. I HAVE CAUGHT THE SPECS. I HAVE CAUGHT PROBLEMS IN THE SPECS. THEY WERE WRONG. FOR EXAMPLE, A VALVE, A VALVE. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LEANING THIS WAY. WHEN YOU OPEN IT, IT'S FREE.

BUT THE VALVE ON THE SPECS AND THE COMPANY DESIGNED IT WAS GOING TOWARD THE TOWER. YOU YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T. IF YOU OPEN THE VALVE, IT GO AGAINST THE TOWER. THEY PUT THEY WAS PUTTING IT IN UNTIL I CAUGHT THEM. AND WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THEM TO UNDO IT. YOU CAN'T TRUST PEOPLE. I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH MONEY AND HONESTY GOES OUT THE WINDOW. THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. THIS AND YOU GOT ALL KIND OF CROOKS. AND GUESS WHAT THEY GET? THEY JUST LIKE OTHER THINGS. GUESS WHERE THEY GET THEIR EMPLOYMENT FROM? FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AND WHEN YOU GET EMPLOYEES FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC, PROBLEMS COME WITH IT. THEY COULD BE WELL EDUCATED, BUT THEY COULD BE CORRUPT. YOU GOT TO PUT YOUR OWN PEOPLE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET WHAT WE'RE SPENDING, WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR. I HAVE NO OTHER LIGHTS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I ANY NOS. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES. NUMBER FIVE PR NUMBER

[VIII.A. (5) P.R. No. 24707 -A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A One-Year Contract With Evoqua Water Technologies, LLC, Of Sarasota, Florida, For The Purchase Of Sodium Chlorite With A Projected Budgetary Impact Of $420,000.00. Funding Is Available In Account No. 410-40-210-5217-00-00-000, Treatment Chemicals]

24707. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH ECUA.

I'M SORRY. EVOQUA WATER TECHNOLOGIES, LLC OF SARASOTA, FLORIDA, FOR THE PURCHASE OF SODIUM CHLORIDE WITH A PROJECTED BUDGETARY IMPACT OF $420,000. FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IN THE ACCOUNT NUMBER 4104021052170000000. TREATMENT CHEMICALS. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY NOS? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES. PAGE NUMBER SEVEN. PR NUMBER 24709.

[VIII.A. (6) P.R. No. 24709 - A Resolution Authorizing Payment Of Annual Service Fee For Tyler Municipal Court System To Tyler Technologies In The Amount Of $91,070.54. Contingent On Budget Amendment P.O. 7390, Funding Shall Be Available In The Municipal Court Technology Fund Account No. 104-03-009-5450- 00- 10-000]

A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PAYMENT OF AN ANNUAL SERVICE FEE FOR TYLER MUNICIPAL COURT SYSTEM TO TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, AND THE AMOUNT OF $91,070.54 CONTINGENT ON BUDGET AMENDMENT 07390 FUNDING SHALL BE AVAILABLE IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT TECHNOLOGY FUND ACCOUNT NUMBER 1040300954500010000. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I ANY NOS. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES.

[VIII.A. (7) P.R. No. 24720 -A Resolution Authorizing The Acceptance Of The Engineer's Certificate Of Completion, The Contractor's Certificate And Release, And The Contractor's Certificate Of Guarantee For The Public Infrastructure Improvements, Constructed By D & T Interests, LLC For The Golf Hill Villas Development Located At 3301 Jimmy Johnson Boulevard, And Further Authorizing The City Manager To Execute The Certificate Of Acceptance On Behalf Of The City Of Port Arthur]

PR NUMBER 24720. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ACCEPTANCE OF THE ENGINEER'S CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION. THE CONTRACTOR CERTIFICATE AND RELEASE, AND THE CONTRACTOR CERTIFICATE OF GUARANTEE FOR THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS CONSTRUCTED BY D AND T INTEREST,

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LLC FOR THE GOLF HILL VILLAS DEVELOPMENT. LOCATED AT 3301 JIMMY JOHNSON BOULEVARD, AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CERTIFICATE OF ACCEPTANCE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN BECKHAM.

I GOT MY HEAD. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I THINK MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER CAN ANSWER. SO I KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY HAS HAD TO KIND OF PUT THINGS OFF AS FAR AS STARTING CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT WAS GOING ON. ON JIMMY JOHNSON. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY START CONSTRUCTION OF THE TOWNHOMES? I, ACCORDING TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH THEM RECENTLY, I THINK THEY'RE STILL ON ON TIME. OKAY. WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. YES. YEAH, I'VE HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT IT. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT WE'RE ON TIME FOR THEM TO START WHEN THEY HIT ORIGINALLY AND I YES, I THINK IT'S 2027. OKAY. IS TO COME. YES. THANK YOU.

GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I'M SORRY. THE AYES HAVE IT. I'M SORRY. ANY NOS? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES. PR NUMBER 24730. A RESOLUTION RATIFYING

[VIII.A. (8) P.R. No. 24730 -A Resolution Ratifying The City Manager's Decision To Authorize Two (2) Emergency Repairs To The 36-Inch Water Main Line Located On Savannah Avenue By Jet Aeration Of Texas, LLC Of Vidor, Texas, In The Total Combined Amount Of $173,889.79, With Funding From Account No. 410-40-215-5315-00-00-000, Water System Maintenance]

THE CITY MANAGER'S DECISION TO AUTHORIZE TWO EMERGENCY REPAIRS TO THE 36 INCH WATER MAIN LINE, LOCATED ON SAVANNAH AVENUE BY JETT AERATION OF TEXAS, LLC OF TEXAS, AND THE TOTAL COMBINED AMOUNT OF $173,889.79 WITH FUNDING FROM ACCOUNT NUMBER 4104021553150000000. WATER SYSTEM MAINTENANCE. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY.

SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER KINLAW, I'LL GIVE YOU A BREAK.

MAYOR CALVIN, COME ON UP HERE. OKAY. AND, KEVIN, WHY ARE YOU WALKING UP? I CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. IN THE LAST 3 TO 5 YEARS, WE REPLACE THIS VALVE LIKE THREE TIMES. NO, SIR. NO, THIS IS A CORROSION ON THE PIPE. THIS ONE HERE IS FOR A PIECE OF THE OF THE BELL. THIS IS DUCTILE IRON PIPE. IT'S PUSH ON JOINT, DUCTILE IRON PIPE. AND IN THAT AREA, KIND OF BETWEEN THE ENTERGY POWER PLANT AND 25TH STREET, IT RUNS RIGHT IN THE BACK OF THAT GRAVEL PARKING LOT. RIGHT. AND THE BELL CORRODED OFF. SO THE SEPTEMBER REPAIR WAS THEY WENT IN AND THEY CUT THE BELL OFF SEPTEMBER 2020. THIS COVERS SEPTEMBER AND A REPAIR THAT JUST HAPPENED.

THEY THEY NEVER BUILD US FOR THE FIRST ONE IS THE REASON IT GOT DELAYED. SO THEY THEY CLAMPED IT. AND THEN THIS LAST ONE WAS ABOUT A FOUR INCH HOLE THAT BLEW OUT OF THE PIPE ABOUT THREE FEET FROM THE LAST REPAIR. BUT IT WASN'T ASSOCIATED WITH REPAIRS. JUST THAT PIPE IS CORRODING. MY GUESS IS YOU'VE GOT CATHODICALLY PROTECTED PIPELINES IN THAT AREA. PLUS WHATEVER ENTERGY DOES AROUND THE SUBSTATION AND IT'S CAUSING STRAY CURRENTS AND IT'S CAUSING THE IRON TO LEAVE. SO AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, AT LEAST IN THAT SECTION, REPLACE IT WITH PVC. AND AS I RECALL, ISN'T THAT ADJACENT TO THE PARKING LOT OVER THERE BY MOTIVA? YEAH. WHEN YOU'RE GOING DOWN SAVANNAH TOWARDS WENT OUT THERE. YEAH. IT'S IT'S BACK THERE TOWARDS THOSE PONDS IN THE VERY BACK OF THAT PARKING LOT. OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THAT WHOLE DOG SOME. WELL, IN THAT AREA, THAT'S WHERE THE CORROSION IS HAPPENING. AND THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF THINKING IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH EITHER CATHODIC PROTECTION OF PIPELINES. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT WILL CAUSE THE IF IT CAN GET SOME IRON ELECTRONS, IT'S GOING TO GET THEM IN OUR PIPE I THINK IS. YEAH. AND THAT'S A MAJOR WATER LINE FOR THE CITY. THAT IS THE MAJOR WATER LINE FOR THE CITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, THIS IS RELATED TO WATER. I KNOW WE'VE A LITTLE BIT OFF THE SUBJECT, BUT. HOW OUR WATER TREATING WATER LOSSES AT ONE TIME IT WAS 30% WHEN THE LAST TIME Y'ALL LOOKED AT THAT NUMBER ON WATER LOSS, WE HAVE TO REPORT IT AS PART OF THE. APPLICATIONS FOR LOANS FROM TEXAS WATER BOARD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT IT'S STILL VERY HIGH. BUT SEE THE PROBLEM WITH ALL THESE LEAKS WE GOT AND YES, THIS OLD LINES AND WHAT HAVE YOU, WE'RE LOSING THIS WATER THAT'S TREATED WATER THAT IS TREATED WATER. AND NOW WE GOT TO BUY CHEMICALS. THE CHEMICALS WE GOT TWO PROBLEMS. WE'RE LOSING WATER AND WE AND WE GOT CHEMICALS THAT WE'RE BUYING AT THESE HIGH PRICES. CHEMICALS

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ARE GOING UP TOO. SO IT'S IMPERATIVE. AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANT IT DOWN TO WHAT, ONE THIRD OR 3%, PROBABLY 10% LESS THAN FIVE CITIES GET THERE. THAT'S VERY HARD FOR A CITY OUR AGE TO GET TO. BUT WE DID. I MEAN, WE DID LAST WHAT, YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE FOUND A 4 MILLION GALLON A DAY LEAK. SO THAT'S REALLY HELPED US. WE'VE KEPT 4 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

SO THAT'S BEEN REPAIRED. IT WAS OUT IN THE MARSHES GOING TO SABINE PASS. YEAH, YEAH. AND ONE OTHER THING. ARE WE MONITORING EVERYTHING? ALL THE METERS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO THE REFINERIES? THEY BUY WATER FROM US FROM PERIODICALLY. YEAH. NO, THEY THEY ALL HAVE METERS. THEY THEY'RE SOME OF OUR BIGGER CUSTOMERS IS THE BIGGEST. AND WE KNOW WHERE ALL THE METERS ARE. YES WE DO. YEAH. BECAUSE AT ONE TIME, GULF STATES UTILITY DIDN'T KNOW I MEAN ANY WE DON'T KNOW. WE'RE STARTING TO THERE'S A FEW THAT RESIDENTIAL ONES WE GOT TO GO FIND. BUT THEY'RE RECORDING. WE JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE. SO WE'VE GOT TO FIND. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY NOES? THE AYES HAVE IT.

[VIII.A. (9) P.R. No. 24731 - A Resolution Authorizing The Acceptance Of A Utility And Drainage Easement From D & T Interests, LLC To Allow For The Installation, Operation, Maintenance, Repair, And Replacement Of Water Distribution Facilities, Sanitary Sewer Facilities, And Stormwater Drainage Facilities, Including Storm Sewers, Culverts, And Appurtenances, Together With Full Rights Of Ingress And Egress For Public Purpose, For The 3.568-Acre Golf Hill Villas Development]

THE RESOLUTION PASSES. PR NUMBER 24731. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF A UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT FROM D'A. INTEREST, LLC TO ALLOW FOR THE INSTALLATION, OPERATION, MAINTENANCE, REPAIR, AND REPLACEMENT OF WATER DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES, SANITARY SEWER FACILITIES AND STORMWATER DRAINAGE FACILITIES INCLUDING STORM SEWERS, CULVERTS AND OPPORTUNITIES, TOGETHER WITH THE FULL RIGHT OF INGRESS EGRESS FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE. FOR THE 3.568 ACRE GOLF HILL VILLAS, THE DEVELOPMENT. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY NOS? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES. PAGE EIGHT. PR NUMBER 24738. A RESOLUTION

[VIII.A. (10) P.R. No. 24738 - A Resolution Authorizing Payment To D & T Interests, LLC, In The Amount Of $441,402.93, For The City Of Port Arthur's Share Of Reimbursable Costs For The Public Infrastructure Improvements Associated With The Golf Hill Villas Subdivision, Pursuant To A Developer Participation Contract Approved By Ordinance 24-01; Funding Is Available In Special Purpose Account No. 001-01-005-5470-00-10-000; Project No. MA0072]

AUTHORIZING PAYMENT TO D AND T INTEREST, LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $441,000 AND 441 $402.93 FOR THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR'S. SHARE OF REIMBURSABLE COSTS FOR THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOLF HILL VILLAGE SUBDIVISION, PURSUANT TO A DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION CONTRACT APPROVED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2401, FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IN THE SPECIAL PURPOSE ACCOUNT NUMBER 001, DASH 01005547000. DASH 10000.

PROJECT NUMBER MAR 0072. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? APPROVAL? CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSIONS? COUNCILMEMBER DOUCETTE? YES. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE LIST OF THINGS, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING LIKE SIGNS, ROAD SIGNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IS THAT INCLUDED IN INFRASTRUCTURE? OKAY. THANK YOU. SO. WELL. THANK YOU MAYOR. NO, THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY THERE'S WE ALREADY HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT DICTATED WHAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.

AND OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, MY OFFICE. I PERSONALLY WENT THROUGH THOSE DETAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE FOR PAYMENT IS WAS INCLUDED IN THAT AGREEMENT BEFORE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY NOES? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE

[VIII.A. (11) P.R. No. 24739 - A Resolution Appointing And/Or Reappointing A Director Or Directors To The Port Arthur Economic Development Corporation (Requested By Mayor Moses, Councilmember Hamilton Everfield And Councilmember Frank)]

RESOLUTION PASSES. NUMBER 11, PR NUMBER 24739. A RESOLUTION APPOINTING AND APPOINTING A DIRECTOR OR DIRECTORS TO THE PORT. THE PORT ARTHUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, REQUESTED BY MAYOR MOSES, COUNCILMEMBER HAMILTON EVER FIELD AND COUNCILMEMBER FRANK.

CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSIONS? ALL. YEAH. YOU CAN WE CAN ENTER THE NAMES. I'VE ALREADY GIVEN MY NAME. BUT ANYWAY. YES. COUNCILMEMBER FRANK, CITY SECRETARY REAPPOINTING DARRELL ANDERSON.

YES. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY NOS? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES. NUMBER

[VIII.A. (12) P.R. No. 24747 - A Resolution Terminating The Contract With NW Atlas Services Of Florence, Texas, For Telecommunications Improvements Between San Antonio Avenue And Shreveport Avenue In Downtown Port Arthur And Awarding The Contract To Gulf Coast Electric Co. Of Beaumont, Texas, In The Amount Of $1,297,852.64. Funding Is Available In Capital Improvement Account No. 305-21- 000- 8525-00-00-000; Project No. DT0003]

12, PR NUMBER 24747. A RESOLUTION TERMINATING THE CONTRACT WITH ATLAS SERVICE OF FLORENCE, TEXAS, FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS IMPROVEMENTS BETWEEN SAN ANTONIO AVENUE AND SHREVEPORT AVENUE IN DOWNTOWN PORT ARTHUR, AND AWARDING THE CONTRACT TO GULF COAST ELECTRIC COMPANY OF BEAUMONT, TEXAS, IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,000,297 $852.64. FUNDING IS AVAILABLE

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IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ACCOUNT NUMBER 300 AND 5-2100085250000000. PROJECT NUMBER DT 003. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I. I ANY NOS. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION

[VIII.A. (13) P.R. No. 24750 - A Resolution Of The City Of Port Arthur, Texas, To Amend Resolution No. 25-233 And Authorize The City Manager To Negotiate A Contract With Environmental Industrial Services Group (EISG) Inc. Of Houston, Texas For The Study, Design, Permitting, Construction, And Operation Of The Entire City Landfill Operations And Property To Also Include Receiving Waste Not Permitted Under The Current City Of Port Arthur Landfill Permit (Requested By Councilmember Frank) (Part 1 of 2)]

PASSES. NUMBER 13 PR NUMBER 24750. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, TO AMEND RESOLUTION NUMBER 25233 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH ENVIRONMENTAL INDUSTRIAL SERVICES GROUP INCORPORATED OF HOUSTON, TEXAS, FOR THE STUDY, DESIGN, PERMITTING, CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE ENTIRE CITY, LANDFILL OPERATIONS AND PROPERTY TO ALSO INCLUDE RECEIVING WASTE NOT PERMITTED UNDER THE CURRENT CITY OF PORT ARTHUR'S. LANDFILL PERMIT REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FRANK. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. EXCUSE ME. I GOT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. I GOT TO GET IT ON THE FLOOR. I'M SORRY. OKAY, I GOT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. I NEED A SECOND, SECOND AND A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER BECKHAM? YEAH. I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE WENT FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD AT A PREVIOUS MEETING WHERE THIS WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE FOR A CELL OF THE LANDFILL, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE LANDFILL. SO WHO CAN ANSWER THAT FOR ME? I HAVE WAIT, I HAVE LIGHTS ALL OVER THE PLACE, SO HOLD ON, COUNCILMEMBER BECKHAM. OKAY. IS THERE SOMEONE THAT CAN. OH I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. STAFF MEMBER YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF. OKAY. LET ME SPEAK. CAN I SPEAK TO I THINK THE STAFF I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. IT'S MY ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THE DISCUSSION.

YEAH. I JUST WANT STAFF TO TALK. SO SHE ASKED FOR I THINK HANEY WAS RUNNING SOME OF THE DETAIL.

I'M NOT AWARE. CAN YOU GIVE, LIKE A COUPLE MINUTES? HE'S IN THE HALLWAY TAKING PHONE CALL.

I CAN BRING HIM HERE. OH, SURE. I HAVE SOME CITIZENS THAT ARE WANTING TO SPEAK AS WELL. YES.

MY NAME IS ERIC GUIDRY, 5250 LAKESIDE DRIVE, PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, 77642. A CITIZEN OF PORT ARTHUR. AFTER LISTENING TO THE MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON NOVEMBER THE 12TH, 2025. YES, SIR. REVIEWING THE RFQ, WHICH IS A PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, THERE ARE A FEW QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AS A CITIZEN OF PORT ARTHUR. ACCORDING TO THE RFQ. UNDER THE BACKGROUND, PARAGRAPH FIVE STATES THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR SEEKING A QUALIFIED FIRMS. TO FORM A JOINT VENTURE FOR DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION, MANAGEMENT AND OPERATION OF AN AI, AN OF AN, NOT A OR NOT. THE MSW LANDFILL. IT SAYS THE SUCCESSFUL RESPONDENT WOULD DEMONSTRATE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE. SO I JUMPED DOWN. ACCORDING TO THE SUMMARY STATEMENT IN RFQ, THE FIRM MUST HAVE A MINIMUM OF TEN YEARS EXPERIENCE IN LANDFILL CONSTRUCTION, OPERATION, MANAGEMENT, INCLUDING WASTE OTHER THAN MUNICIPAL WASTE. A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESSFUL JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DOES MEET THESE QUALIFICATIONS. ACCORDING TO COUNCIL MEMBER HAMILTON. ON THAT SAME MEETING, SHE ASKED QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO RFQ BEING THAT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE FOR SALE OR A SECTION. AND A NEW PROPOSAL CAME BACK FROM ISG ASKING TO DO THE WHOLE LANDFILL.

I HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBERS. MAYOR. IF YOU WILL ALLOW ME TO MOVE INTO YOUR HOME. AND WHILE I'M THERE, I'M CHARGING YOU TO MOVE WHILE I'M LIVING IN YOUR HOME. HOW ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW ISG TO COME INTO OUR CITY TO TAKE OVER OUR LANDFILL AND CHARGE US TO USE OUR OWN LANDFILL? IF I COULD USE AN INDUSTRY TERM, THEY USED TO SAY, THAT'S A CRACKHEAD DEAL.

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I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. CITY COUNCIL. YES, SIR. THIS FIRM, THEY MAY HAVE INDIVIDUALLY EXPERIENCED INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCE, BUT THIS FIRM AS A COLLECTIVE ORGANIZATION DOES NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO RUN OUR ENTIRE LANDFILL. AND I WOULD LIKE OUR CITY COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THIS RESOLUTION AND VOTE NO ON THIS RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL. PASTOR GUIDRY, HOLD ON. OKAY. WE GOT WE GOT WE GOT PEOPLE REALLY LINED UP. DO YOU WANT TO YOU WANTED DID YOU WANT DOCTOR HANEY TO SPEAK? I'LL LET HIM SPEAK. AND. OH, WE GOT PEOPLE SPEAKING. OKAY. I WOULD PREFER FOR FOR DOCTOR. DOCTOR TOLD ME TO COME BECAUSE HE MAY ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE. IF YOU HAVE A SEAT RIGHT THERE AND WE'LL GET BACK. DOCTOR. TOMMY, YOU WEREN'T IN THE ROOM WHEN I. I ASKED THE QUESTION, HOW DID WE GO FROM A PROPOSAL THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ONE CELL OF THE LANDFILL, AND NOW THEY'RE WANTING TO OPERATE THE ENTIRE LANDFILL. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT CHANGE OF COURSE OF ACTION, SO THAT THE CITIZENS WILL BE AWARE? I MEAN, LIKE I SAID LAST NIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE INITIAL INTENTION OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT WAS TO COME IN AND DO A CELL THAT ACCEPT WASTE THAT THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR DOES NOT TODAY ACCEPT, AND THINGS HAPPENED SINCE THEN, I THINK I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE LANDFILL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WENT ON BEYOND THAT POINT, BUT THE INITIAL INTENTION OF THAT RFQ, NO MATTER HOW WE TRY TO TRANSLATE IT OR TAKE A PHRASE FROM IT HERE OR THERE AND CHANGE IT.

INITIAL INTENTION. THAT WAS ALSO DISCUSSED IN THE PRE-BID MEETING, WAS TO CREATE A CELL THAT WILL TAKE WASTE THAT THE LANDFILL TODAY CANNOT TAKE. AND LIKE I SAID LAST TIME, IF THE COUNCIL'S INTENTION IS TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION, WE WILL HAVE TO SIT DOWN. WE HAVE TO STUDY IT, WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT. WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT IS THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY. IS THERE ANY BENEFITS TO THE CITY, AND WOULD IT BE A PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OR NOT? BUT INITIALLY THE INTENTION WAS FOR A CELL THAT ONLY TAKES WASTE. THAT IS NOT TODAY TAKEN AT THE LANDFILL. OKAY. AND IF WE MOVED TO ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE THE ENTIRE LANDFILL, WHAT WHAT WOULD THE RAMIFICATIONS BE FOR THE CITY? I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF AGREEMENT WE DO WITH SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO COME AND OPERATE THE LANDFILL. IF THE AGREEMENT PROVES TO BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY FINANCIALLY, TOWARD THE THE BUDGET WILL CONTINUE TO BE BALANCED. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD DEAL, BUT IF IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT A GOOD DEAL BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE ENTIRE SOLID WASTE DIVISION IS UNDER ONE UMBRELLA. SO THE LANDFILL, THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS ARE ALL UNDER ONE UMBRELLA. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REVENUE FOR THE LANDFILL, THE REVENUE DOESN'T MEET THE EXPENDITURES BECAUSE THE CITY ITSELF DOES NOT PAY THE LANDFILL FOR TIPPING FEES, THE COUNTY DOESN'T PAY THE LANDFILL, RD SEVEN DOESN'T PAY THE LANDFILL. BUT THE BUDGET IS BALANCED BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL COLLECTIONS, THEY'RE MAKING MORE MONEY THAN THEY'RE SPENDING. SO IT'S BALANCING THE WHOLE ACCOUNT. SO WHEN WE COME IN TO SEPARATE THE LANDFILL FROM COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT AGREEMENT, IF IT HAPPENS, WILL CONTINUE TO STAY IN THE POSITIVE TO A COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. DON'T GO BANKRUPT BY SPENDING MORE MONEY BECAUSE WHEN THEY START PAYING THE LANDFILL MONEY, NOW THAT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNT IS GOING TO BE IN THE NEGATIVE, AND THEN THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE THE RATES, OR THEY HAVE TO GIVE US NO TIPPING FEES AT THE LANDFILL FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL FOR IT TO BE BALANCED. SO IS THERE A WAY TO DO THIS AND BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY? WOULD THINK IT COULD BE, BUT THE TERMS WOULD BE VERY HARSH FOR WHOEVER COMES IN AT THE LANDFILL BECAUSE THE CITY HAVE TO MAINTAIN A BALANCED BUDGET. WE HAVE TO CONTROL THE RATES BECAUSE WE CAN'T INCREASE THE RATES TO OUR CITIZENS. WHEN CITIZENS TODAY GO TAKE TRASH TO THE LANDFILL WITH A WATER BILL, THEY DON'T PAY. SO WE WANT TO DETERMINE WILL THAT CONTINUE TO BE THAT WAY OR NOT? ARE WE GOING TO CHARGE THE COUNTY RD SEVEN? SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT COME INTO PLAY WHEN IT COMES TO GIVING UP THE LANDFILL FOR CONTRACT OUT VERSUS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE OTHER DIVISIONS. SO I CAN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S BENEFICIAL OR NOT UNTIL WE COME UP WITH TERMS THAT CAN BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY, AND CAN THEY BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY, WE CAN MAKE THEM BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER SIDE WILL AGREE TO THEM. SO AND SO WHAT? THE CITIZEN

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THAT JUST SPOKE MENTIONED ABOUT BRINGING THEM IN, IT WOULD ACTUALLY END UP COSTING THE CITIZENS AND POTENTIALLY THE CITY AS A WHOLE, TO ACTUALLY USE OUR LANDFILL. IS THAT CORRECT? SO UPFRONT, THE UPFRONT ROUGH NUMBERS FROM MEMORY. OKAY. IF WE TAKE THE 2025 BUDGET NUMBERS, THE LANDFILL MADE ABOUT 4.5 MILLION AND EXPENDED 4.75 MILLION, SO ABOUT 250,000 IN THE NEGATIVE. SO IF SOMEBODY COME AND TAKE THE LANDFILL AND NOT GET THE CITY TO PAY TIPPING FEE, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE NEGATIVE. AND THAT'S ASSUMING WE ARE GOING TO GET THE 1.6 MILLION IN DIRT THAT WE GOT IN 2025. NOW WE'RE GETTING THAT IN 26 BECAUSE WE'RE AT 1.4 MILLION ALREADY FROM OCTOBER 1ST. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD. BUT WHEN THE DIRT GOES AWAY AND IF THE CITY DOESN'T PAY TIPPING FEES, THEN THE LANDFILL IS GOING TO BE ABOUT $2 MILLION IN IN THE HOLE. SO IT'S A BALANCE WE WILL HAVE TO CREATE. IF THE CITY DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN AGREEMENT, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE CITY'S INTEREST IS PROTECTED, WHICH MEANS RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, HAVE TO BE BALANCED. CITIZENS, TO ME IS VERY IMPORTANT. WHEN THEY GO TO THE LANDFILL WITH THEIR TRAILERS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY. WHEN THE COUNTY RD SEVEN AND PARKS ARE PICKING UP TRASH TO HELP US CLEAN THE CITY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS WILL COME INTO PLAY. BUT TODAY, AS IT IS TODAY, IF THE CITY DOESN'T PAY TIPPING FEES, THE LANDFILL DON'T GET DIRT. IT WILL BE IN THE NEGATIVE. OKAY, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. I THINK THIS MIGHT BE FOR THE CITY MANAGER, MAYBE FOR THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WENT OUT FOR RFQ, THIS WAS JUST FOR A SALE OF THE LANDFILL. CORRECT. AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO THE ENTIRE THING. SO WON'T WE HAVE TO GO BACK OUT FOR RFQ AGAIN? YES. ANSWER. THE QUESTION IS YES. WE WOULD HAVE TO REPEAT IT BECAUSE THE INTENTION OF THAT RFQ WAS FOR THAT ONE SALE FOR THE INDUSTRIAL WASTE. SO JUST CHANGING AND GIVING IT TO THEM WOULD DENY OTHER PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANT THE LANDFILL OPPORTUNITY TO BID. SO YES, WE WOULD HAVE TO REBUILD IT. THAT'S IT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. I HAVE LIGHTS ON. I HAVE COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET'S LIGHT. COUNCILMAN MURPHY, I'LL GET TO YOU. I SAW WHEN YOUR NAME CAME UP, I MADE A MARK AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER FRANK, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FROM OUR CITIZENS. SO JUST HOLD TIGHT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I. I'LL REFER BACK TO THE MEETING THAT MR. GUIDRY SPOKE ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO SPEAK. I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THE POINT UP THAT WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION WAS A SALE. AND WHAT THE PRESENTATION WAS ABOUT WAS THE OPERATION OF THE FULL LANDFILL. LAND OF FILTH. SO THAT PRESENTATION IS WHAT I BASE EVERYTHING ON. OKAY. AND THAT PRESENTATION WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN ONE THAT CAME TO THE COUNCIL AFTER COMMUNICATING WITH STAFF AND CITY PERSONNEL. THAT PRESENTATION THAT CAME BEFORE US. IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT MEETING AND YOU HEAR ME SPEAK, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WAS CONCERNED WITH. ONE, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE MONEY AND WE DON'T HAVE A HEADACHE. AND IF THEY WERE WILLING TO INVEST THAT KIND OF MONEY AND DO THAT, AND WE OPERATE LIKE WE'RE DOING, THEN I DON'T SEE WHEREBY THAT WOULDN'T BE AN ADVANTAGE TO THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING THAT I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION WAS BASED ON THAT PRESENTATION. NOW, AS FAR AS THE QUESTIONS ABOUT QUALIFICATIONS, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER. AND THEY'RE HERE TO MAKE SURE YOUR QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED SO THAT YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS RIGHT. THE OTHER THING IS CITIZENS PAYING FROM THE EXPLANATION OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WE RECEIVED, I DIDN'T GET THAT CITIZENS WERE GOING TO PAY.

WHAT I GOT WAS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO OPERATE THE LANDFILL PER WAY WE'RE DOING IT AND STUFF, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR HEADACHE AND NOT OURS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE GUARANTEED REVENUE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BE POSITIVE EVERY YEAR, WHICH GOES BACK TO THE POINT THAT DOCTOR TOM MADE. IF YOU COULD GET WHEREBY YOU COULD BE POSITIVE AND DON'T HAVE TO

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WORRY ABOUT WHEN THE DIRT GO AWAY, IT CAN'T BE ADVANTAGE. SO I THINK OF EVERYTHING THAT I HEARD OF, THE QUESTIONS I HEARD. I THINK YOUR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. THE LAST QUESTION HERE WAS IN REFERENCE TO THE RFQ. WELL, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO BE GETTING INTO A LEGAL AREA. AND WE FOUND OUT FROM A LEGAL EXPERT THAT THERE WAS A WAY TO DO IT. BUT IN ORDER FOR THE CITY NOT TO BE HELD WHERE IT'LL COST THE CITY ANY MONEY, THIS IS THE WAY YOU CAN DO IT. AND THAT WAS FROM AN ATTORNEY, AND THAT'S WHY I CAME BACK HERE, AND THAT'S A CLOSED SESSION. BUT WE'VE TAKEN CARE. THE LEGAL PORTION OF IT. SO IF SOMEBODY CONTESTED, IT WON'T COST THE CITY NOTHING, OKAY. IT WON'T COST THE TAXPAYERS. SO I THINK AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I JUST LIKE TO HEAR THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU BROUGHT BEFORE US ANSWERED, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF ONE. THE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY HAVE, AND TWO, WHERE CITIZENS HAVE TO PAY IF THEY GO THERE WITH THEIR WATER BILL OR THE WAY IT IS NOW. OKAY. SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO HEAR ANSWERED JUST BEFORE I VOTE, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP SHOULD BE ANSWERED EVEN WITH THIS APPROVAL. OKAY. SO I'D LIKE SOMEBODY TO COME COME UP THERE WHENEVER THE TIME COME. BUT BEFORE I VOTE, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOUR QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED. COUNCILMEMBER FRANK. YES. THANK YOU. THIS ITEM THAT WE ARE PUTTING ON TODAY HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BANDIED AROUND FOR A TIME. I THINK, PASTOR GUIDRY, FOR BRINGING THOSE THOSE CONCERNS BACK FROM THE CITY, BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN CONTINUALLY. SO WE'VE HAD A WORKSHOP ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AND SO WE LOOKED AT THAT, HAD THE WORKSHOP SAW THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY, I THINK TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS WE'RE DOING OR WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO DO. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE HISTORICAL PURVIEW. THE LANDFILL HAS LOST MONEY CONTINUALLY AND PERPETUALLY.

THE ONLY REASON THAT THE LANDFILL IS IN THE BLACK NOW AND MAKING MONEY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD WE'VE HAD DIRT DONATED TO US FROM ALL OF THE PROJECTS COMING FROM THE LNG. DOCTOR HANEY JUST SAID THAT, AND THAT IS TRUE. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT HAVING MUCH OF THAT DIRT MUCH LONGER BECAUSE THOSE PROJECTS ARE COMING TO AN END. SO THE QUESTION COMES NOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THE LANDFILL PROFITABLE? WE BOUGHT A WEIGHT SCALE. WE TRIED TO UTILIZE IT. WE SPENT $400,000 ON THAT AND FOUND OUT WE COULDN'T USE THE WEIGHT SCALE.

WE BOUGHT A CHIPPER WOOD CHIPPER SO WE COULD DO SOMETHING WITH THAT. WE'VE NOT UTILIZED THAT. SO TO UNDERSTAND THAT, WE WANT TO SAY THAT THE LANDFILL IS NOT OPERATED OPTIMALLY. WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING UTILIZED BY CITIES BECAUSE YOU ENTER INTO RELATIONSHIPS WITH PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT BENEFIT THE COMPANY AND BENEFIT THE CITY.

YOU ALLOW THE CITY TO HAVE BETTER SERVICES FOR THE CITIZENS. YOU ALLOW REVENUE TO BE GENERATED FOR THE CITY. YOU ALLOW THE OPERATION OF THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING AND ALL OF THAT TO TO CREATE JOB OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS. THAT'S WHAT THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT GENERATING JOBS. IT'S ABOUT SUPPLYING BETTER SERVICES FOR THE CITY AND GENERATING REVENUE FOR THE CITY AS WELL. AND SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, THIS COMPANY HAS COME. THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD MAKE A $25 MILLION INVESTMENT INTO OUR LANDFILL. THEY HAVE SAID THAT THEY WOULD BUY EQUIPMENT TO OPERATE THE LANDFILL. THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD COME IN AND EMPLOY INDIVIDUALS IN THE LANDFILL. ALL OF THAT WOULD BE NEGOTIATED IN THE CONTRACT. AND IF THAT IS NOT DONE, WE WOULD. WE'RE NOT SELLING OUR LANDFILL. WE'RE NOT GIVING OUR LANDFILL AWAY. ALL WE'RE DOING, WE'RE KEEPING OUR EMPLOYEES, OUR EMPLOYEES ARE KEEPING THEIR REVENUE, KEEPING THEIR JOBS. THEY'RE KEEPING THEIR PENSION. WE ARE IN A NO

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LOSE SITUATION. IF ANY OF THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN OR TRANSPIRE, WE CAN SAY, KICK ROCKS, GO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO. DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T FULFILL THE OBLIGATIONS THAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO DO IN THIS CONTRACT, WE GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE AND AND EVERYTHING IS JUST AS IT WAS. WE LOSE NOTHING. THERE IS NO RISK. BUT IF WE GO FORWARD, WE GAIN. THIS COMPANY HAS COME FORWARD AND THIS COMPANY HAS COME FORWARD. AND THEY HAVE IN THE WORKSHOP. IF YOU WATCH THAT WORKSHOP, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING IN WASTE FROM THE REFINERIES THAT ARE HERE. MOTIVA, TOTAL. THOSE COMPANIES ARE GENERATING WASTE AND THEY'RE SENDING THAT AWAY FROM OUR CITY. THIS IS NON HAZARDOUS WASTE. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN THIS IS NOT WASTE THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT US. THIS IS NOT THIS IS NON-HAZARDOUS WASTE. AND SO THE OPERATION OF THE LANDFILL IN ITS ENTIRETY IS UNDER ONE PERMIT. AND SO THAT PERMIT HAS TO BE AMENDED. THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE ENTIRE LANDFILL BE OPERATED IN TOTALITY TO CREATE AN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE MANY TRUCKS, BECAUSE THE ACTIVITY IS GOING TO BE INCREASED OUT OF THE LANDFILL. THE THEY'RE GOING TO BE MULTIPLE TRUCKS, MANY TRUCKS GOING IN. AND SO THE CAPACITY AT THE LANDFILL HAS TO BE INCREASED FOR THAT REASON. SO HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE QUESTIONS BE ANSWERED. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN DOUCET THAT THE QUESTIONS BE ANSWERED, BUT THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE. WE DID GO TO AN ATTORNEY TO FIND OUT IF WE COULD DO. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND OUT IN THE PRESENTATION THAT THAT WE COULD GENERATE MORE REVENUE BY DOING THE LANDFILL. IT'S IN ITS ENTIRETY. IT'S LIKE IF YOU DECIDED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GET A BATHROOM FIXED IN YOUR HOUSE, THEN YOU CAME OUT AND FOUND A BID OF A CONTRACTOR WHO SAID, I CAN HELP YOU FIX YOUR WHOLE HOUSE, AND IT WILL BE MORE OF A BENEFIT FOR YOU. WELL, YOU TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE NOW. THAT'S WHY THIS DECISION HAS COME FORTH. IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLACE PORT ARTHUR IN A POSITION WHERE WE DO MORE TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR OURSELVES, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DEPEND ON REFINERIES AND DEPEND ON OTHER THINGS. THIS IS OUR ENTERPRISE, AND THIS IS WHAT IT ALLOWS US TO DO.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HAVERFIELD. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE. SO I'LL TRY NOT TO BE REPETITIVE, BUT TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED ABOUT CHARGE BEING CHARGED, TIPPING FEES DURING THAT WORKSHOP, THE THE THE COMPANY DID ANSWER AND THEY SAID THAT WE WOULD BE CHARGED TIPPING FEES. HOWEVER, WHATEVER THAT FEE IS, IS ALWAYS NEGOTIABLE. THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION DOESN'T COME IN UNTIL WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE INTO A CONTRACT. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED DURING THAT WORKSHOP WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT QUALIFICATIONS. MAYOR MOSES WAS VERY DIRECT AND VERY CLEAR WHEN AND SHE DID RECEIVE AN ANSWER DURING THAT WORKSHOP ABOUT THE QUALIFICATIONS OF COLLECTIVELY DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN THE RFQ. HOWEVER, THE INDIVIDUALS IN LEADERSHIP IN ISG HAVE HAD 1520 PLUS YEARS WITH THIS TYPE OF EXPERIENCE, BUT THEY WERE DOING IT WORKING FOR OTHER COMPANIES. SO AGAIN, THAT RESPONSE WAS PROVIDED DURING THE WORKSHOP. ANOTHER ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS. STATED EARLIER ABOUT THE RFQ. THE INTENT OF THE RFQ WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SALES TEAM SALE. WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. FRANK, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IF YOU PUT OUT A BID FOR YOUR BATHROOM IN YOUR HOUSE, BUT YOU GOT ANOTHER BID THAT COULD HELP YOU REPAIR YOUR ENTIRE HOUSE, YOU GO WITH WHAT THE BEST OPTION IS TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE WORK. THAT DOES MAKE SENSE.

HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL. WE ARE DOING THIS BUSINESS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

SO ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND ALSO AN ATTORNEY WHO SPECIALIZES IN ENVIRONMENTAL WASTE OR SPECIALIZES IN LANDFILLS INSTRUCTED US, COULD WE MOVE

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FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS? YES, BUT IT STILL WOULD NOT BE WITHOUT LIABILITY. SO OUR RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT IS NOT TO BE IN PROTECTION OF THE COMPANY THAT IS WANTING TO DO BUSINESS WITH US. WE FIRST HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, WHICH WOULD BE TO PUT OUT A NEW RFP, MAKING THIS PROCESS MORE INTEGRAL AND MAKING THIS PROCESS MORE TRANSPARENT FOR COMPANIES THAT WANT TO BID ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE LANDFILL. THAT DOES NOT PUT ISG OUT FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT BID, BUT US AMENDING THE LAST RESOLUTION ATTACHED TO AN RFQ THAT DISCUSSES A SALE, IN MY OPINION, WOULD NOT BE CLEAR, TRANSPARENT AND INTEGRAL FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE BEST WITH THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY, THE CITIZENS OF PORT ARTHUR. WE GOT TO KEEP THE MAIN THING, THE MAIN THING. IF WE WANT TO CHANGE WHAT THAT MAIN THING IS. THE INITIAL MAIN THING WAS FOR US TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT ONE HAD THE EXPERIENCE AND COULD ACCEPT THE INDUSTRIAL WASTE IN A SALE IN OUR LANDFILL. THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL CONVERSATION. IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT CONVERSATION, IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE MAIN THING, THEN LET'S DO THAT. BUT LET'S DO IT IN THE MOST INTEGRAL WAY AND A WAY THAT PROTECTS THE CITIZENS OF PORT ARTHUR, WHICH IS OUR FIRST RESPONSIBILITY.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE. I THINK YOU JUMPED UP. YOU GOT UP FIRST. OKAY. MR. WAGNER. THANK YOU. I'M DWIGHT WAGNER, 822 WELLFORD PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS. MAYOR MOSES, CITY MANAGER BURTON AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF PORT ARTHUR, AND I'M PROUD TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH OTHER RESIDENTS WHO TRULY LOVE OUR COMMUNITY. I CONSIDER MYSELF A CHEERLEADER FOR THE CITY, AND I'M ALWAYS SUPPORTIVE OF BUSINESSES. NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW ESTABLISHMENTS THAT SEEK TO LOCATE IN OUR FAIR TOWN. I ALSO APPRECIATE THE WORK OF OUR CITY COUNCIL AND HONESTLY RECOGNIZE THE HARD WORK YOU DO IN MAKING DECISIONS THAT YOU FEEL WILL BENEFIT BENEFIT ALL OF THE CITIZENS OF PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS. BUT HAVING MADE THOSE COMMENTS, I WISH TO ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS THAT I WISH TO POSE REGARDING DESIRE TO PURCHASE OUR LANDFILL. THE COMPANY'S PRESENTATION WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE, BUT I DO HAVE JUST FOUR QUESTIONS. AND PASTOR FRANK REALLY SORT OF ANSWERED MY FIRST ONE. JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE WORKERS, THE OUR WORKERS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED AT THE LANDFILL. WOULD THEY MAINTAIN THEIR JOBS? AND YOU SAID YES, BUT IF SO, WHAT HAPPENS? SO IF THE NEW LANDOWNERS PROJECT IS UNPROFITABLE, WILL THESE WORKERS BE TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER SITE? WILL THEY BE LAID OFF? I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR JOB SECURITY. BUT YOU DID ANSWER MOST OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. I ONLY HAVE THREE MORE QUESTIONS. THE SECOND ONE IS WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES OF NEDERLAND, PORT NECHES AND GROVES TO USE OUR LANDFILL. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. IF II PURCHASES THE LANDFILL, WILL THE CONTRACT WITH THE MID COUNTY CITY STILL BE IN EFFECT? WILL THEIR RATES REMAIN THE SAME? AND I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I DO NOT WISH TO LOSE THEIR BUSINESS. TWO MORE QUESTIONS. WILL THERE BE ANY SERVICE CHARGE ADJUSTMENTS FOR GARBAGE AND TRASH COLLECTION? WILL THERE BE A NEED FOR NEW GARBAGE CANS AND IF SO, WILL THAT COST BE PASSED ON TO THE CITIZENS? AND MY FINAL QUESTION, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON THAT TOO, ABOUT THE PROFITS. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE MAY BE MAKING SOMETHING LIKE $6 MILLION FROM THE LANDFILL. AND IF THAT'S CORRECT, IS THERE A GUARANTEE THAT CONTRACTING WITH ISG WILL ENSURE THAT A PROFIT FOR THE CITY FOR AT LEAST 6 MILLION OR MORE WILL BE GUARANTEED FOR US? JUST QUESTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. IF YOU'D LIKE COPIES OF IT. I CERTAINLY HAVE IT THERE. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU BEFORE. THANK YOU COUNCIL, MR. WAGNER.

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APPRECIATE IT. ROSE. COUNCIL MEMBER I MEAN, I SAY COUNCIL MEMBER CHASEN, BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER BEFORE. YOU MAY COME TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK NOW. GOOD. WELL, IT WAS MORNING WHEN I GOT HERE. NOW IT'S AFTERNOON. TIME FOR LUNCH. I HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS.

YOU KNOW, I USUALLY DO NOT COME TO COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT WHEN I COME TO COUNCIL MEETING AND MY SPIRIT IS VEXED, THEN I COME. I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THE CITY. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHEN THE LANDFILL BECAME UNPROFITABLE BECAUSE IT WAS PROFITABLE BEFORE. NOT MAYBE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, BUT BEFORE THAT IT WAS PROFITABLE. I LOOKED AT THE WEBSITE FOR ISG AND I WAS NOT IMPRESSED. I'M SO SORRY. IT DID NOT GIVE ME THE INFORMATION THAT I NEEDED TO PUSH MY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR IT. I DID NOT MAKE THE WORKSHOP, BUT I STAND BY THAT. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO RUN THE LANDFILL. ALL OF THEIR PICTURES WERE. CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS FINE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE NEED. ON THE WINNING STRETCH. NO DISRESPECT TO ANYBODY ELSE. THEY LIVE IN HOUSTON LIKE MR. WAGNER. I'M LONG PORT ARTHUR AND I WILL FIGHT TO THE END FOR PORT ARTHUR. AND STILL WE CAN GO TO LUNCH. BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM, AND I THINK THAT YOU ALL NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THE EXPERIENCE IN RUNNING A LANDFILL. IF THEY'RE GOING TO PUT $25 MILLION, IT'S NO WAY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RAISE PRICES BECAUSE I WANT MY MONEY BACK. IF I LOAN COUNCILMAN LEWIS $100, I DON'T WANT $20 BACK. I WANT MY WHOLE $100 BACK. AND ANY COMPANY THAT HAS $25 MILLION TO PUT INTO YOUR BUSINESS, I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS NOT GOING TO PAY FOR IT. AND THEN Y'ALL GOING TO SEE ME AGAIN BECAUSE MY BILL, JUST LIKE Y'ALL TOLD ME ABOUT THE WATER BILL, MY WATER BILL WENT UP SO HIGH, IT'S RIDICULOUS FOR TWO PEOPLE. BUT I'M GOING TO LEAVE THREE THINGS WITH YOU, ALL FOR YOU TO PONDER. BEFORE YOU EVEN VOTE ON THIS. YOU CAN TABLE IT, PULL IT, AND WHATEVER I WANT YOU ALL TO LOOK AT LUKE 22 AND THREE, MATTHEW 26 AND 15, AND MATTHEW 27 ONE THROUGH TEN. I'M LEAVING THAT WITH YOU ALL, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL THAT THIS COUNCIL IS DOING. THE CITIZENS IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE DON'T CARE IF YOU LIKE ME OR NOT. I PAY TAXES, I PAY MY WATER BILL ON TIME. I DO EVERYTHING ON TIME. SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE THAT, BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE CONSISTENTLY MESSING UP ACROSS THE BOARD. I LOVE PORT ARTHUR. I COULD HAVE LEFT AND NOT EVEN LOOKED BACK, BUT I CAME BACK AND REDID MY HOUSE AFTER THE STORM. BUT I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON MONEY. IT'S NOT ABOUT MONEY FOR THE COUNCIL, IT'S FOR THE CITIZENS. AND WE HAVE AN ELDERLY POPULATION JUST LIKE Y'ALL FIGHT ABOUT THE STREETS. I FOUGHT FOR THE STREETS TO. I NEVER VOTED TO RAISE THE WATER BILL. I DIDN'T CARE IF THEY WAS IN THE RED BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T DOING WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. AND I GUESS I'M NOT THE AVERAGE CITIZEN BECAUSE I'VE SAID WHAT YOU'VE SAID, AND I'VE WORKED FOR THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, SO I KNOW THE INS AND OUTS AND THE DO'S AND THE DON'TS. I LOVE Y'ALL, BUT I DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT ONE, Y'ALL. YOU KNOW, KENLAW PLAYED WITH MY CHILDREN. I FUSSED WITH HIM ALL THE TIME, BUT HE ALWAYS COME AND HUGGED ME. ME AND BABE, WE HAVE OUR FIGHTS TO, BUT WE STILL TALK.

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SO I'M SAYING THIS BECAUSE OF THE CITIZENS WHO CAN'T COME OUT HERE. AFRAID TO COME OUT HERE.

THIS IS NOT A GOOD DEAL. AND FOR ME TO COME OUT BECAUSE I DON'T GET UP EARLY ANYMORE.

SINCE I'M RETIRED, I'VE BEEN HERE. I DON'T GET UP EARLY IN THE MORNING. I'M CONCERNED. AND Y'ALL KNOW I DON'T COME TO COUNCIL MEETING UNTIL I GET MAD. OKAY, ANY MORE COMMENTS? OH, COULD YOU GET MY ASSISTANCE? YES, WHICH IS MY CASE. IT'S LATHAM. MY NAME IS MARY LATHAM.

I LIVE ON WEST SIDE OF PORT ARTHUR. MY ADDRESS IS 1131 WEST FIFTH STREET. QUITE FRANKLY, MOST OF WHAT I WAS IN DOUBT ABOUT MAY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED SOMEWHAT. CONSIDERING OUR NATIONAL CLIMATE AND THE TENUOUS CONDITION UNDER WHICH WE LIVE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FROM DAY TO DAY, I BELIEVE, AND I'M SAYING THIS TO YOU, TO MR. BURTON, WE DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE WHAT GOES AT THE WHITE HOUSE TRICKLES ON DOWN TO US EVENTUALLY. BUT I WORRY ABOUT OUR LOCAL CLIMATE AS WELL. AND THE IDEA OF A ONE GROUP COMING IN AND CHANGING FROM ONE EMPHASIS TO ANOTHER, FROM THE CELL TO THE WHOLE LANDFILL, DOES LEAVE ME WITH QUESTIONS. I HAVE BEEN AT A POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE I CAN'T TRUST, AS I USED TO, I DON'T TRUST AS I USED TO, I WON'T TRUST AS I USED TO, AND I TRY TO LOOK. I TOO LOOKED AT THE ISG'S WEBSITE AND BUT MY QUESTION WAS, WHY ARE WE JUST GOING WITH THIS ONE COMPANY THAT HAS MOVED FROM RUNNING A SALE TO RUNNING OUR ENTIRE LANDFILL? I WAS SO APPRECIATIVE OF TIFFANY. WELL, I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN HAMILTON EVER FEEL I WAS SO APPRECIATIVE OF HER STATEMENT IN THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CITIZENS OF PORT ARTHUR WHO ARE ALREADY DEPRESSED? I KNOW MY PEOPLE ARE DEPRESSED. THEY'RE TIRED OF MISHANDLING AND COVERING CERTAIN ISSUES AND ALMOST MAKING US GO WITH CERTAIN DECISIONS WITHOUT OUR EVEN BEING APPRIZED OF WHAT'S GOING ON. I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, I'VE BEEN A COUNCIL MEETING AND SAID, WHY CAN'T WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO US FROM DAY TO DAY? AND NOW WITH THE LANDFILL, WHAT YOU SAID, PASTOR FRANK, COUNCILMAN FRANK, I ACCEPT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF THAT UNTIL YOU JUST MENTIONED IT. AND WHAT BOTHERS ME IS WE GO ON AND ON AND ON, ASSUMING THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR US WITHOUT INVESTIGATING IT THOROUGHLY OURSELVES. I JUST ASK THAT YOU NOT VOTE FOR THIS CONTRACT, THAT YOU STUDY A LITTLE BIT MORE, NOT FROM WHAT YOU SEE IN FACE VALUE. AND PLEASE DON'T FALL FOR MONEY. MONEY IS REALLY EVIL IF IT'S USED FOR PERSUADING PEOPLE TO DO THINGS THAT ARE NOT DONE HONESTLY AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF AN ENTIRE POPULATION, AND PEOPLE SUCH AS I WHO HAVE BEEN HERE ALL OF THEIR LIVES AS MR. WAGNER, ALL OF US, WE'VE BEEN HERE ALL OF OUR LIVES, AND WE WANT PORT ARTHUR TO THRIVE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE CAJOLED INTO THINKING SOMETHING IS GOING TO WORK AND IT DOESN'T. AND YET SOMEBODY WILL COME OUT PROFITING WHERE WE WON'T. I KNOW THE RATES ARE GOING TO GO UP, EVERYTHING GOES UP. AND I JUST ASK THAT THE COUNCIL BE MORE COGNIZANT OF WHAT WE AS CITIZENS ASK, THAT YOU'RE CAREFUL, YOU'RE CAREFUL, AND DON'T ALLOW YOURSELVES TO BE SUCKERED INTO MONEY AND WHAT IT WILL DO TO LINE YOUR POCKETS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER KINLAW. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, BEING ON CITY COUNCIL, THESE ONE OF THESE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE AND UNDERSTAND PROPERLY AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE VALUED FOR THE CITIZENS OF PORT ARTHUR. AND THE ONE THING THAT I DID AND IN BASED WHEN THEY GAVE THE PRESENTATION, I DID HAVE A CONCERN ON CITIZEN RATES OR SERVICE CHARGE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST DAY ONE WITH ME HAVING A LANDFILL AND AND HAVING THE CITIZENS TO PAY A RATE UNTIL WE NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT, WE WOULDN'T KNOW THAT

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RATE. AND THAT JUST DIDN'T SIT WELL WITH ME. AND I'VE EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE LANDFILL WILL NOT MAKE MONEY IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. MY FIRST QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CITY MANAGER IS FOR YOU, DOCTOR HANEY. HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY NOT GETTING THE DIRT, THE ASSISTANCE FROM GETTING THE DIRT AND KEEPING THE LANDFILL IN THE BLACK. CAN YOU ANSWER THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION? BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO RESEARCH, LIKE MISS MARY LATHAM JUST STATED, YOU KNOW, TO RECONSIDER AND UNDERSTAND BEFORE WE GET INTO SOME TYPE OF CONTRACT, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE? YES, SIR. IN 2025, WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY $1.6 MILLION IN DIRT FEES. IN THIS BUDGET YEAR, SINCE OCTOBER 1ST, WE RECEIVED $1,404,000 ALREADY, AND THEY HAVE 20 TRUCKS RUNNING EVERY DAY, ALL DAY. AND THEIR PROJECTIONS PROJECTING THAT TO CONTINUE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. SO WE WILL EXCEED THE 1.6 MILLION WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR ON THE DIRT FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET YEAR. NOW, NEXT BUDGET YEAR, I CANNOT PROJECT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE PROJECTIONS. SO WE HAVE AT LEAST A YEAR. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? BUDGET YEAR? FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR, WE WILL EXCEED THE $1.6 MILLION WE MADE FROM DIRT LAST BUDGET YEAR. OKAY. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR AND MAYOR WITH WITH THAT KEN, CITY MANAGER, COULD YOU HAVE CLIFF COME UP HERE? YES. I'M SORRY, CLIFF, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING UP TO ANSWER A QUESTION BY COUNCILMEMBER KINLAW. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I THINK, CLIFF, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, DID YOU JUST SAY WE WE WOULD HAVE TO REBID THAT ONCE THE ONE SALE? DID YOU JUST SAY THAT? IN MY OPINION, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROCURE IT AGAIN? YES. AND MAYOR IS GOING EXACTLY WHERE I WANT TO GO WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET HERE? AND I HEARD MY COHORT EXPLANATION. I MET WITH THE CONTRACTORS AND HEARD THEIR EXPLANATION ON WHY. BUT WHEN WE DO THIS RFQ, WHY WASN'T SOME OF THOSE THINGS BROUGHT TO THE FRONT WHEN THEY APPLIED? YOU KNOW, IT MAKES THIS COUNCIL HAVE TO MAKE A DIFFICULT DECISION BASED UPON, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING I WAS OUT ILL LAST YEAR FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

BUT WHEN I CAME BACK AND I THINK COUNCILMAN EVERSFIELD STATED IT MY FIRST MEETING BACK, SHE SAID I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE SALE. I DID TOO AS WELL. I DID TOO, AND THEN NOW IT'S PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE CITIZENS THAT'S OUT THERE HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS AND HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE PODIUM, AND THE COUNCIL HAS TO DO THE SAME THING. I KNOW WE MAKE THE BIG BUCKS MAKING THESE DECISIONS, BUT HOWEVER THIS RFQ, ARE WE ANY TYPE OF LEGAL RAMIFICATION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. AND WHY WASN'T SOME OF THESE THINGS PUT IN THE FRONT IF WE WERE HAVING POSSIBLY GOING IN THE RED IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND WE WANTED SOMEBODY TO POSSIBLY DO ONE SALE OR EVEN TAKE IT ALL OVER, WHY WASN'T THIS LIKE BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL? AND I KNOW I WAS OUT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT IT'S A HARD DECISION RIGHT NOW. WELL, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I WASN'T AWARE OF THIS PHILOSOPHY THAT THEY WERE USING UNTIL THEY DID THEIR PRESENTATION AT THAT COUNCIL MEETING THEMSELVES, BECAUSE MY EYES GOT WIDE LIKE I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE SALE. SO I CAN'T ANSWER HOW IT GOT HERE, BECAUSE UP TO THE TIME WE AWARDED IT, IN MY MIND IT WAS ONLY DOING ONE SALE, SO I CAN'T I CANNOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION. LIKE LIKE HANEY SAID IN THE PRE-BID MEETING, EVERYTHING WAS DISCUSSED IN THE SALE. NOW, FROM WHAT I HEAR, THERE'S ONE LINE THAT WAS IN THERE THAT THEY RUNNING WITH THAT WAS, I GUESS MISTAKENLY TYPOED. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THAT RFQ CLEARLY SAYS IS FOR ONE SALE FOR INDUSTRIAL WASTE, AND THAT WAS THE INTENTION OF THE WHOLE TIME. SO I CAN'T HONESTLY ANSWER HOW IT GOT TO THAT. ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S THE WHOLE LANDFILL. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I THINK OUR CITY ATTORNEY MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. I WAS GOING TO LEAD RIGHT BACK INTO. THAT WOULD BE MY THIRD. THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT WE ARE GOING INTO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION TO FURTHER SEEK LEGAL ADVICE INVOLVING THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. AND SO BEFORE YOU GUYS DECIDE TO VOTE, YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COMING BACK OUT AND THEN MAKING THAT DECISION. THANK YOU. AND THEN ALL I'M SAYING LEGAL ATTORNEY, IS THAT YOU'RE OUR NEXT BUDGET YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WE HAVE. AND I THINK COUNCILMAN FRANK SAID SOMETHING EARLIER. WE TALK ABOUT PROVIDING AND I THINK THE MANAGER MADE A PRESENTATION TWO YEARS AGO ABOUT A WATER LINE BEING PROVIDED OUT THERE TO INCREASE REVENUE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE WOOD CHIPPER. WE TALKED ABOUT

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THE WEIGHT SCALE, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAD ENVISIONED TO TRY TO COMBAT GOING INTO THE RED. BUT NOW NEXT BUDGET YEAR, WE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WELL THANK YOU, MAYOR. OKAY. YEAH. YES. CITY MANAGER, THE DOCTOR KINLAW JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE WOOD CHIPPER. WE JUST GOT PERMITTED FOR THE WOOD CHIPPER. HOW LONG DID THAT PERMIT TAKE? MISS ROBERTS, CAN YOU COME? COME FORWARD, PLEASE? AND WHILE SHE'S COMING, I THINK ALSO I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT WE WE WERE TOLD WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE OR GOT A SECOND OPINION FROM THE ATTORNEY THAT WE SPOKE WITH ON THE JANUARY 13TH MEETING THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO AMEND OUR CURRENT PERMIT. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU GUYS CAN CORRECT ME THAT IT WOULD TAKE 2 TO 3 YEARS TO AMEND OUR CURRENT PERMIT TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT NON-HAZARDOUS WASTE. THAT'S THE WE. COUNCILMEMBER FRANK CAME OUT, READ THE MOTION TO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL ATTORNEY TO GIVE US MORE INFORMATION. AND WE HIRED A GUY OUT OF AUSTIN WHO'S DONE 19 YEARS OF JUST SOLID WASTE. AND IN HIS PRESENTATION, AS COUNCILMEMBER FRANK MENTIONED, THERE WERE THINGS THAT HE SAID. AND HE SAID TO AMEND. COUNCILMAN FRANK SAID, NO, WE CAN MODIFY. HE SAID, WE CANNOT MODIFY YOUR CURRENT PERMIT. YOU WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE PERMIT AND TO GET AM I RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER, THAT IT WOULD TAKE US 2 TO 3 YEARS TO AMEND THAT SO THEY WILL BE OPERATING OUR LANDFILL, WILL BE OPERATING OUR LANDFILL UNDER OUR CURRENT PERMIT, UNTIL THEY WERE ABLE TO SECURE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CURRENT PERMIT BEFORE THEY EVEN START ON THE NON-HAZARDOUS WASTE. AM I RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT AM I RIGHT? OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD. AND SO, JUST SO CITIZENS CAN UNDERSTAND CLEARLY, THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS SAID IN THAT MEETING WITH THAT THIRD PARTY ATTORNEY. AND THEN WE ASKED HIM IF HE COULD COME BACK BECAUSE WE WERE RUNNING SHORT ON TIME, THAT IF HE COULD COME BACK AND EXPLAIN TO US TODAY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION SOME MORE QUESTIONS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE, AND WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS RIGHT AFTER THIS MEETING. AND SO WE WILL. THIS ITEM WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR A VOTE BEFORE WE COULD CONCLUDE OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE EXPERT THAT PASTOR FRANK READ THE MOTION FOR US TO LISTEN TO.

SO WE ONLY HEARD ABOUT TEN MINUTES OF HIS CONVERSATION. HE WAS RUSHED THROUGH BECAUSE OUR MEETING WAS LATE, AND SO WE ASKED, COULD WE COME BACK AGAIN THIS WEEK AND HEAR HIM OUT? LISTEN A LITTLE LONGER? I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE RUSHING TO GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED, BUT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR THAT ATTORNEY JEFF OUT OF AUSTIN. I DON'T KNOW, I REMEMBER HIS NAME, BUT AFTER THIS MEETING TODAY. SO I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT WE'RE VOTING ON THE ENTIRE LANDFILL AGAIN. THIS WAS DONE PRIOR TO ME BEING ELECTED. SO FOR THE ONE SALE WAS ACTUALLY IF YOU WORKED IN PURCHASING OR WORKED ANYWHERE IN PURCHASING, THE LIABILITY OF A NOT FOLLOWING YOUR RFQ WILL OF COURSE BRING LAWSUITS ONTO THE CITY. BUT I THINK WHEN THE ATTORNEY SAID IN THE MEETING ON LAST, HE GAVE US FOUR OPTIONS. THE LAST OPTION WAS AND I WROTE IT DOWN TWICE, WAS THAT THE THE LANDFILL COULD BE GIVEN TO THIS THESE ISG WITH THE RESPONSE THE LIABILITY THAT.

AND SO THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE TO BE THE WITH THE LIABILITY OF ANY LAWSUITS THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE WOULD BE THEY WOULD TAKE THAT ON. AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE FIRST, ADEQUATELY WE'VE NOT HEARD THE LAWYER TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. AND SECONDLY, WE PUT THE BID OUT OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. ISG DIDN'T. SO THE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE SALE IS STILL ON THE CITY. AND SO I HEARD THAT. AND THAT WAS THAT'S MY $0.02. NOW WE WILL TAKE I'M SORRY. NOW WE'LL LET YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE, WHICH YOU MAY NEED TO BE REFRESHED. OKAY. WITH THE WOOD CHIPPER, THE WOOD CHIPPER CHIPPER. SO THE QUESTION IS I THINK THE QUESTION IS, HAVE WE APPLIED FOR A PERMIT FOR THE WOOD CHIPPER AND HAVE WE RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR IT? AND HOW LONG DID IT TAKE? YES, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE? I THINK SO, YES. OKAY. SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS HAVE WE APPLIED? YES, WE HAVE APPLIED TO TCDC FOR A PERMIT. WE HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED IT. SO IT'S STILL UNDER REVIEW. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, HOW LONG HOW LONG HAS IT TAKEN THE PROCESS. WHEN DID YOU APPLY. OH, GEEZ. CAN I GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT? I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT DATE ON WHICH THE PERMIT

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APPLICATION WAS. WHAT YEAR? ONE YEAR. TWO YEAR. IT'S BEEN ABOUT A YEAR. ABOUT A YEAR. SO IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR, A YEAR. OKAY, WELL, I NEED A DATE. IF YOU COULD CALL, IF YOU COULD CALL AND FIND OUT BEFORE WE END THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION, INFORM YOU. CAN YOU GET IT BEFORE EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, MA'AM. I NEED IT BEFORE EXECUTIVE SESSION. THANK YOU. SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I SEE COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET'S LIGHT AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER FRANK. AND THIS WILL BE YOU GUYS SECOND TIME SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, I HEARD IT. ALL OF US COMMENT ABOUT IT. LIKE I SAID, I, I HEAR AND I LISTEN TO EVERYBODY.

AND I THINK WHERE WE ARE WE'VE TALKED WITH THE ATTORNEY. WE KNOW WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT WE'VE DISCUSSED THE LANDFILL AND THE OPERATION. BUT WHAT I HEARD TODAY WAS CITIZENS COME BEFORE US THAT HAD QUESTIONS. THOSE QUESTIONS THOSE CITIZENS HAD ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED. BECAUSE IF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED, THEN THEY GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON WHETHER THEY CAN ACCEPT OR CAN'T ACCEPT IT. SO EVEN IF WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AND DISCUSS THIS, WE STILL MISSING THE MAIN POINT OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. AND THAT IS THE PEOPLE ARE HERE. LET THEM ANSWER ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS THE CITIZENS HAVE, SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IT'S ABOUT. BECAUSE THAT QUESTIONS, AND FROM WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IF THEY UNDERSTOOD THEIR CONCERNS, THEY WOULD BETTER UNDERSTAND IF WE GO WITH OR WITHOUT THIS PROJECT. SO RIGHT NOW, SEE, NO PROBLEM WITH US. THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO DO, IS LET THE LET THEM ANSWER THE CITIZENS. NOT MY QUESTION. RIGHT. BUT THOSE CITIZENS QUESTIONS. SO WHEN THOSE CITIZENS LEAVE HERE TODAY, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEEDED TO KNOW. REGARDLESS ON WHAT WE DISCUSS IN CLOSED SESSION. AWESOME. AND WE WILL.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. SO WE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FROM PASTOR GUIDRY. AND THOSE QUESTIONS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE FORGOTTEN WITH ALL THE CONVERSATION THAT'S HAPPENED IN 30 MINUTES, BUT WE CAN POSSIBLY IF YOU COULD COME BACK UP FOR US AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED FOR YOU, AND THEN WE WILL GO ON, MOVE ON. OKAY. SO YOUR YOU HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WORKSHOP. I GUESS IT WAS ON 11 1220, 25. ESG CAME AND SAID THAT IN A WAY THAT THEY SEEN THE WORKING PROCESS, THAT INSTEAD OF BEING ON ONE SALE, THEY'RE GOING TO BID ON THE WHOLESALE, I MEAN, ON WHOLE LANDFILL. AND THAT WORD THAT I SEE WAS IN PARAGRAPH FIVE, IT STATES. AND OPERATION OF AN NOT THEE, NOT A MSW LANDFILL INTO THE MIC, PASTOR, NOT A IT'S, IT'S AT.

AND SO HERE IT IS. THEY'RE PLAYING WORD GAMES WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. THEY TRIED TO BACK DOORS ON IN IN MY OPINION THEY'RE TRYING TO BACKDOOR US BECAUSE THE WORD WAS FROM DOCTOR HANEY AND FROM EVERYBODY I WAS SEEING AND FROM THIS PARK IT SAID IT'S FOR SALE AND FOR A SECTION. EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID FOR SALE AND FOR A SECTION. SO WHY HOW DID LIKE YOU SAID, MISTER DUKE SAID, HOW DID IT COME BACK FROM ONE SALE TO NOW THEY WANT TO DO THE WHOLE LANDFILL. OKAY. THAT'S EVERYBODY'S THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S ASKING THAT QUESTION. YEAH, BUT ANOTHER THING, BEFORE THEY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, THEY ALSO SAID IN THIS MEETING ON 11, 12, 20, 25 THAT THEY WILL HAVE A CHARGE AND IT WILL BE PROFITABLE TO THE CITY. THEY WILL CHARGE THE CITY. YOU LEFT, MR. DUKE SAID. I WATCHED THE WHOLE THING. I WATCHED THE WHOLE THING. YOU HAD LEFT THE CITY COUNCIL THAT DAY AND SAID WHAT YOU SAID.

WHAT WAS THE. THEY SAID THEY WILL HAVE A CHARGE FOR A CITIZEN FOR THE CITY, AND IF IT GOES TO THE CITY, IT'S GOING TO ALSO COME TO THE CITIZENS, BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, IT TRICKLES DOWNHILL. OKAY. AND AS YOU SAID, MISTER WILLOUGHBY, AS YOU SAID, I'M GONNA SEND THEM MY WAY. AND GOD, WE TRUST EVERYBODY ELSE WE CHECK OUT. THAT WAS YOUR TWO QUESTIONS. OKAY. DO THEY HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS I GOT? YOU DO THEY HAVE DO THEY HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT WAS

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REQUIRED THAT WAS REQUIRED FROM THE PRCC AS ESG, AS ESG, AS AN ENTIRETY, NOT INDIVIDUALLY.

OKAY. BECAUSE I HEARD WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? HAROLD BARBER. HAROLD BARBER SAID HE WORKED.

THIS IS HIS CLIENT IN THAT MEETING. THIS IS HIS CLIENT? YES HE DID. HE DIDN'T SAY HE WORKED FOR THIS COMPANY. HE'S A CONTRACTOR FOR THIS COMPANY. SO THIS ENTIRE COMPANY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARE THEY QUALIFIED? DO THEY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE? AND I THINK IT WAS MR. KINLAW AND MAYOR MOSES. Y'ALL QUESTIONED THEM UNTIL IT WAS LIKE PULLING TEETH OUT OF A BABY. AND THEY FINALLY CAME OUT AND SAID THEY'VE NEVER DID A PROJECT LIKE THIS BEFORE, SO WHY ARE WE GOING TO BE THE GUINEA PIGS? OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE ANSWERS OKAY? OKAY.

JUST TO. YEAH. JUST TO NAME AND THEN I JUST KNOW YOUR NAME. BUT ANYWAY. YES. YES, MA'AM.

DERRICK MCGRIFF, ISG, 2164 STREET BEAUMONT, TEXAS. JUST REAL QUICKLY, I'M GOING TO BRING THE TEAM UP. BUT ONE I WANT TO ANSWER PASTOR GUIDRY'S FIRST QUESTION. AND THE FIRST QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE RFQ. WE DID NOT PRODUCE RFQ. WE RESPONDED TO IT. SO EVERYTHING THAT THAT YOU SEE IN THAT RFQ, THAT'S THAT'S THE CITY PUT OUT THE RFQ. WE RESPONDED TO IT.

WHAT ANOTHER THING THAT THAT WAS REAL KIND OF GLARING AND A MISCONCEPTION TALKED ABOUT MONEY A LOT. WHAT IT WOULD COST THE CITIZENS. THIS WOULD NOT COST THE CITIZENS ANY ANYTHING.

AND AND LET ME EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU. AND I THINK MISTER KINLAW POSED THIS QUESTION IN OUR LAST WORKSHOP. HE ASKED ABOUT WHAT THE CITY BE CHARGED A TIPPING FEE AND A TIPPING FEE IS BASICALLY A FEE THAT IS CHARGED TO LIKE, LET'S SAY A PRIVATE CUSTOMER COMES AND THEY WANT TO DUMP TRASH AT THE LANDFILL. WELL, THEY'LL BE A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THEY WOULD BE CHARGED TO BE ABLE TO DUMP THAT, THAT TRASH. WELL, THE CITY DOES NOT PAY A TIPPING FEE RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE IT'S ALL IN ONE BUDGET. NOW. THE CITY WILL CONTINUE TO GET THE GARBAGE COLLECTION FEES, JUST LIKE THEY'VE BEEN DOING, JUST LIKE THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING FOREVER.

NOW, WHAT THE CITY DOES WITH THOSE GARBAGE COLLECTION FEES THEY PAY FOR THE EXPENSES OF THE LANDFILL, WE ARE TAKING ON THOSE EXPENSE, THOSE EXPENSES. THAT'S WHY WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF EXCHANGE OF MONEY IN TERMS OF TIPPING FEE. ALL RIGHT. SO AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE I THINK AND WE ALSO SAID AND I THINK I ADDRESS THIS TO MR. KINLAW AS WELL. WE SAID WELL IT'S IT'S A TERM CALLED BLUE MONEY. WE GOT GREEN MONEY. WE GOT BLUE MONEY. GREEN MONEY IS LIKE WHEN I GIVE YOU A CHECK, YOU TAKE IT, YOU PUT IT IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT. BLUE MONEY IS WHEN I GIVE YOU A CREDIT. AND SO THE CITY WE WOULD BE GIVING THE CITY A CREDIT THROUGH OUR ROYALTY. SO BASICALLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, LET'S SAY IF WE MAKE $10 MILLION AND WE HAVE A 5% ROYALTY, WHAT? THE CITY GETS 500,000 OFF THE TOP. THERE'S NO EXPENSES COME OUT OF THAT MONEY BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY CANNOT LOSE MONEY AND WE DO NOT WANT TO LOSE MONEY. WE ARE HERE. SO TO ADD MONEY TO THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE CITY. SO AT THAT POINT, ALL WE WOULD DO, WE WOULD NEGOTIATE A FEE ON THE TIPPING FEE, WHERE THE MONEY, THAT MONEY WOULD COME OUT OF WHATEVER MONEY WE WERE PAYING THE CITY BACK. AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, YOU GUYS WANT TO COME UP ONE BY ONE. WE CAN, HOWEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IT.

OKAY. DO YOU I THINK YOU SAID DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT WILL THE CITY, WILL THERE BE A FEE? I THINK PASTOR GUIDRY JUST TOLD YOU THAT THERE WILL BE THERE WILL BE A FEE. OKAY. AND THEN THE ONE SALE, HE SAID, OF COURSE HE DIDN'T WRITE THE RFQ.

THE CITY DID, BUT THE CITY DID ADDRESS ONE SALE. AND I THINK REPEATEDLY WITHIN THE I THINK THE PRESENTATION BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY SHOWED THAT IN THE PAST THAT THEY, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ADDRESSED ONE SALE TO SHOW THE VIDEO CLIP OF COUNCIL MEMBER DOUCET SAYING ONE SALE OR ONE SECTION, AND THEN ALSO MISS BECKHAM, COUNCILMEMBER BECKHAM SAYING ONE SALE OR ONE SECTION AND ANOTHER MEETING. WE DID SEE THOSE PLAY OUT. BUT ANYWAY, THAT THAT WAS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. OKAY, DO THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE? WHO'S ANSWERING THAT AS ESG. SORRY.

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THAT'S OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CLEAR BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD. IF YOU LOOK AT THE RFP OR RFP CLEARLY STATES WHAT WE BID IT FOR. THERE WAS ANOTHER RFP. THERE WAS ANOTHER RFP OR RF THAT WAS PUT OUT BY THE CITY TO CONSTRUCT A SALE THAT WAS PULLED BACK BY THE CITY. THAT WAS NEVER A PART OF OUR PRESENTATION. THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO. NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE CONFUSED BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE INTRICACIES AROUND A LANDFILL.

CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND OPERATIONS. A SALE IS JUST A LITTLE PART PORTION THAT YOU BUILD, EVEN ON YOUR MSW. YOU'RE ALWAYS YOU'RE BUILDING YOUR DUE TO BUILD A SALE THAT WAS DUE.

THERE WAS AN RFQ SET UP BY THE CITY THAT WAS TAKEN BACK. THAT WAS NOT WE NEVER PRESENTED NOTHING ON THAT. WE PRESENTED ON THE LANDFILL. WAIT. HOLD ON. LET ME LET YOU STOP RIGHT THERE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR, BECAUSE WAS THERE EVER A PART OF THAT? WAS THERE EVER? I KEEP HEARING, LET ME GET LET ME GET CLARITY ON THIS FROM OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND THE HEAD. HE SAID THAT THERE WAS A RFQ PULLED BACK. I DON'T I WASN'T HERE, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE LET ME GET CLARITY OKAY OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH OKAY. SO HE'S INACCURATE. SO HERE'S THE FACTS. WE IT WAS BIDDED. IT WAS BIDDED TWICE. BUT THE FIRST TIME IT WAS BID, IT WAS THE SAME RFP. IT WAS JUST THAT THERE WAS AN ERROR IN IT. SO WE HAD TO REDO IT. SO IT WAS DONE TWICE. BUT BOTH TIMES IT WAS FOR ONE SALE. ANYTHING SAID DIFFERENTLY IS NOT TRUE. IT WAS ONLY FOR ONE SALE FOR INDUSTRIAL WASTE. OKAY, ANYBODY WHO GO UP THERE AND READ IT, IT WILL SAY IT'S LIKE ONE LITTLE LINE. LIKE I SAID, IT WAS A TYPO, THAT THING. BUT IF YOU READ THE ENTIRETY OF IT, ANYBODY CAN GO READ IT. IT CLEARLY SAYS ONE SALE FOR YOU HAD TO PULL IT THE FIRST TIME AND THAT WAS AN ERROR. CAN YOU KIND OF OKAY, HOLD UP. WAIT A MINUTE, GUYS. I'M TALKING TO THE GUY WHO'S WHO DID THE WORK. NO, I'M SAYING HE SAID IT WAS THE CITY'S. SO LET ME LET THE CITY TALK. IT WAS OKAY. IT WAS BIDDED TWICE. THE FIRST TIME WAS WHEN I WAS OUT, WHEN I HAD MY SURGERY. OKAY. SO WHEN I CAME BACK, THERE WAS AN ISSUE IN THE WAY WAS WRITTEN. SO WE HAD TO REBUILD IT. OKAY. BUT IT WAS FOR THE SAME SERVICES WE JUST HAD TO TAKE TO GET TO THE TECHNICALITY OF IT. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT THE FIRST PART WAS RFQ, THAT YOU QUALIFIED AND AFTER YOU QUALIFIED, YOU HAD TO SEND IN YOUR FINANCIALS AFTER THAT, AND THEN THEY REVIEW IT WHERE THEY AWARDED IT BASED ON THE FIRST QUALIFICATION. OKAY. SO THAT WAS STOPPED AND WE REVISITED IT. SO THAT'S THE BID THAT THEY BID.

THE ONE THIS COMPANY DID WAS BID ON THAT AFTER YOU PULLED IT THE FIRST TIME THEY BID ON I'M SORRY I'M SORRY. WE GOT WE DID A FEW ON I'M MISTAKEN ON IT. THIS WAS TWO RFQS FOR OUR FOR THE LANDFILL. I GOT IT CONFUSED. THAT'S THE ONE I'M ON IS THE, THE OTHER ONE THAT WE DIDN'T AWARD THAT THEY WAS GOING TO BUY THE MILLION DOLLAR CHECK. I'M SORRY. THAT WAS THAT ONE.

THERE WAS TWO THINGS THAT WE DID WITH SALES OUT THERE FOR THE FOR THE LANDFILL. SO I GOT THIS CONFUSED. OKAY. THIS ONE I'M SORRY. I'M DOING IT OFF MEMORY. THINGS BEEN A WHILE BACK. THIS ONE. WE DID NOT PULL IT. THIS ONE WE DID DO THE RFQ FOR THE LANDFILL FOR THE ONE SALE. I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY. I THINK THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT SUBMITTED THE RFQ. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. AFTER I GOT ON BOARD. THERE WAS ONLY ONE. CORRECT. AND THEN SO THEY WERE AWARDED BASED ON THEM BEING THE ONLY PROPOSAL. BUT THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THAT WAS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL WASTE. AND THAT'S WHY WHEN THE QUESTION WAS ASKED EARLIER, DO I THINK WE SHOULD PROCURE IT AGAIN IF WE DECIDE TO DO THE LANDFILL? BECAUSE YES, THERE ARE PROBABLY A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T BID IT BECAUSE THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO DO ONE SALE. BUT IF WE PUT IT BACK OUT TO TAKE THE LANDFILL, THERE MIGHT BE MORE PEOPLE INTERESTED. OKAY. SO YEAH. ALRIGHT, SO WE GOT IT. WE GOT IT RIGHT. SO THERE WAS NEVER A SECOND. THERE'S ONE, YES, ONE RFQ THAT WENT OUT. THEY WERE THE ONLY SOLE OR THEY DID THAT AND IT WAS THERE WAS AWARDED TO THEM ON ONE SALE. THAT WAS THE AND THAT'S BEEN THAT WAS THE INTENT. AND THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL PROUD OF ME GETTING HERE. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER SAID. IT WAS ON ONE SALE. YES. THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE RFQ. NOW I DID NOT READ THEIR PROPOSAL BECAUSE I JUST OVERSEEN. I WAS NOT ONE OF THE COMMITTEE PEOPLE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS JUST ONE, SO I DIDN'T. I HAVE SO I CANNOT SAY WHAT THEY ALL THEY PUT IN THERE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE INTENT OF THE ARC WAS JUST FOR THE ONE SALE FOR THE INDUSTRIAL WASTE THAT WE CANNOT HANDLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY ANY

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OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK ONE THING THAT WE'D LIKE TO ALSO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS RFQ, IT TALKED THE FIRST, VERY FIRST COUPLE WORDS IN THERE. IT TALKS ABOUT THE STUDY OF THE LANDFILL. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. LIKE WE HAD TO GO IN AND START DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE, GOING IN AND GETTING ENGINEERS AND LOOKING AT THE WHOLE SCOPE OF THE LANDFILL AND SEEING WHAT WOULD BEST KIND OF BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND THE LANDFILL. SO WHEN WHEN YOU'RE SAYING LIKE IT WAS FOR ONE SALE, IT WAS NEVER ACTUALLY FOR ONE SALE, IT WAS FOR THE LANDFILL ITSELF. WE HAD TO DO A COMPLETE ANALYSIS OF THE LANDFILL, BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE PERMIT ON THE LANDFILL, ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE PERMIT ON THE LANDFILL. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE PERMIT, YOU HAVE ONE OPERATOR. AND SO AT THAT POINT, THAT'S WHY IT BECAME MORE OPTIMAL TO BE ABLE TO DO THE LANDFILL. CLARIFICATION TO, LIKE YOU RIGHTFULLY SAID, THE RFP WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE RFQ. RFP WAS OUT FOR A SALE CONSTRUCTION THAT YOU GUYS ARE GETTING READY TO CONSTRUCT ON YOUR MSW LANDFILL, THE RFQ. AND YOU MADE SOME COMMENT THAT IT WAS PULLED. WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT. WE YOU NEVER SAW US. THAT WAS HOLDING UP, YOU KNOW, BUT THE CONFUSION HERE, I THINK, IS TRYING TO POSE BEFORE THE COUNCIL THAT THAT RFP IS I MEAN, RFP IS WHAT WE'RE REFERENCING HERE TODAY, WHICH IS NOT SIR, I AM REFERENCING THAT RFQ, THAT ARC. AND WE HAD A PRE-BID MEETING FOR THIS. I REMEMBER THAT THERE WERE TWO PROJECTS WHEN I FIRST STARTED. I SAID THE WRONG PROJECT. AT FIRST I WAS THINKING, BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THE RFQ WAS STRICTLY FOR INDUSTRIAL WASTE.

IF WE WANT TO USE THE WORDS IT'S NOT ONE ONE SALE. IT WAS STRICTLY FOR THE INDUSTRIAL WASTE THAT WAS NO, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO HAVE THE PERSON THAT WROTE RFQ. WELL, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND, SIR. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR ORDER, JUST FOR SECOND. OKAY. I'M GOING TO ASK THE PERSON THAT WROTE THE RFQ TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO US. OKAY. THE INTENT, SIR, I YOU CANNOT READ IT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE PERSON THAT WROTE THE RFQ, IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE RFQ. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M PROMISING YOU. EXCUSE ME, SIR, NO SIDEBAR TALKING, PLEASE. OKAY. IF YOU GUYS COULD HAVE A SEAT FOR ME, I'D APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER HANEY, CAN YOU GIVE US THE. YOU WROTE THE RFQ? CAN YOU TELL ME THE INTENT OF THE RFQ? THE INTENT OF THE RFQ WAS TO CREATE A CELL THAT WILL ACCEPT WASTE AT THE LANDFILL, THAT THE CURRENT PERMIT DOES NOT ALLOW US TO TAKE. THAT WAS CLEARLY WRITTEN IN MULTIPLE PLACES IN THE RFQ TO ACCEPT WASTE THAT THE CURRENT LANDFILL CANNOT TAKE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE TYPE OF WASTE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ITS OWN CELL. OKAY, HE WROTE IT. AND LET ME JUST ADDRESS THIS TO ONE LAST THING. THIS WAS ALSO WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE A PRE-BID MEETING FOR THIS AT THE LANDFILL. SO WE HAD OTHER CONTRACTORS WHO CAME. AND I THINK THAT THEY DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THIS BECAUSE THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE INDUSTRIAL WASTE. BUT THIS WAS CLEARLY STATED IN THE RFQ. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHATEVER COUNCIL DECIDES IS FINE, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE RFQ. WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE STILL HAVEN'T HAD ONE QUESTION ANSWERED. I THINK, COUNCILWOMAN PASTOR, COUNCILMAN GUIDRY, YOU ASKED, DID THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE? HAVE YOU GOTTEN YOUR ANSWER TO THAT? I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE ANSWER ON THEIR QUALIFICATIONS AS AN ENTIRETY. I AS AN ENTIRETY, YEAH. OKAY. DO THEY HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS? AND ACCORDING TO THE ANSWER TO THE COUNCIL ON 1112 2025, THEY HAVE NOT DID ANY PROJECT LIKE THIS HERE. SO WHERE IS THE TEN YEAR MINIMUM QUAFICATION. OH WOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE ASK OKAY. YOU WANT TO ASK. YEAH. WE. ACTUALLY WE BUILT THE FIRST SUBTITLED LANDFILL HERE IN LA.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU, SIR. I NEED YOU IN THE MIC. THANK YOU. YEAH, WE WE RESPONDED TO THE RFQ THAT WAS REQUESTED, PRESENTED, PROPOSED PROPOSAL AND PRESENTATION, REFERENCE OR EXPERIENCE. MY EXPERIENCE ALONE IS AS A COMPANY. COMBINED EXPERIENCE IS OVER 40 YEARS IN LANDFILL DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, MANAGEMENT OF LANDFILLS. IT'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE. GOOD EXAMPLE THE FIRST DAY ON LABOR ROAD ARE BUILT PROJECT MANAGEMENT. SIR, I'M SO SORRY TO KEEP INTERRUPTING. YOU GOT TO SPEAK IN THE MIC FOR US BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN'T HEAR

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YOU. I'M SORRY. YEAH, YOU CAN HOLD IT IF YOU. HE CAN HOLD TO BE CLOSE TO HOME BEFORE SUBTITLE THE LANDFILL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS OF THE SECOND LANDFILL. I BUILT THE FIRST ONE AT BLUE RIDGE LANDFILL, 1992, 1998, 1992 93. I CAME HERE TO BUILD GOLDEN TRIANGLE LANDFILL ON LABOR ROAD. AFTER I FINISHED, I WENT TO THE INDUSTRIAL WASTE LANDFILL. THIS THE ON. I'M SO SORRY. HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ASKING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE. HE'S ASKING ABOUT COLLECTIVE AS ISG. HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN IN EXISTENCE? YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TOTAL BUILDING LNG PLANTS UP AND DOWN. THEY HAVE A COMBINATION. IT'S THEIR EMPLOYEES DON'T DO EVERYTHING THEY BRING BACK TO THE DO THIS. AND THIS IS ALL A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. THERE'S NOT ONE COMPANY IN THE UNITED STATES THAT EVERYBODY GOT TO BE AN EMPLOYEE TO DO TO WORK ON THAT, ON THAT.

GIVEN THAT BEING SAID, OUR EXPERIENCE IS IMMEASURABLE. WE WE'VE DONE THIS. WE TRAINED ALL THE REPUBLIC SERVICES, WASTE MANAGEMENT, EMPLOYEES. IT'S JUST LIKE A DOCTOR THAT'S BEEN WORKING IN THE HOSPITAL FOR TEN, 15, 20 YEARS AND HE DECIDED WANTS TO OPEN HIS OWN, HIS OWN, HIS OWN OUTFIT. HE SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T OPEN ONE BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOING IT. IT JUST DON'T ADD UP. DEREK, CAN YOU GIVE HIM THE MIC IN HIS HAND BECAUSE HE'S LOOKING AT PASTOR? IT'S NOT ABOUT PASTOR ERIC, IT'S ABOUT ALL OF US. SO IF YOU LOOK HERE AND THEN SPEAK IN THAT MIC. SO OUR EXPERIENCE IS IMMEASURABLE. WE HAVE THE EXPERIENCE. WE PRESENTED THAT TO THE THROUGH THE RFQ AND WE. AND THE CITY, THE CITY OF REVIEWED AND APPROVED THAT OUR OUR EXPERIENCE IN OUR PROPOSAL PACKAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITY TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND RELATIONS TO. I JUST BELIEVE THERE'S TOO MUCH. WE'VE HAD ABOUT 4 OR 5 PRESENTATIONS TO THE CITY. WE'VE HAD WORKSHOPS. IF YOU BRING 100 PEOPLE ON THE STREETS, ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN IDEAS. THIS JOINT PARTNERSHIP IS NOT THE FIRST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. IT'S GO ON GOOGLE. IT IS ON TCE WEBSITE. OVER 80% OF THE CITIES MUNICIPALITIES TODAY ARE DOING THIS JOINT VENTURE SHIP. NO, SIR. THERE ARE FOUR CITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT HAVE THIS FOUR. THERE ARE FOUR CITIES I DID MY YES, MA'AM. YES, SIR. THERE ARE ONLY FOUR CITIES THAT ARE THAT RIGHT NOW IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS, THERE ARE ONLY FOUR CITIES, AND I CAN CALL THEM OUT TO YOU THAT WORK THAT OPERATE IN THE THIRD PARTY WITH A THIRD PARTY, THE CITY OF WACO. YES, SIR. IT IS, I HAVE EDINBURG, I HAVE HIM, I CAN CALL HIM OUT TO YOU. YES, SIR. ALL THESE CITIES HAVE. IT'S. MCCARTHY ROAD LANDFILL, THE LARGEST LANDFILL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, RIGHT HERE IN HOUSTON, IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF HOUSTON. PARTNERING WITH REPUBLIC SERVICE TO MANAGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT. THAT'S OKAY, BUT YOU CAN FINISH. BUT I'LL GIVE IT TO THE CITIZENS ONCE YOU FINISH YOUR DATA. SUPPORTS SUPPORTS THIS MOST OF THESE LANDFILLS. THIS IS NOT A NEW WE'RE NOT INVENTING THE WHEEL.

THE CITIES AND PARTNERSHIP. THE CITIES ARE GETTING AWAY FROM MANAGING LANDFILLS. THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS TO MANAGE LANDFILLS OR AROUND LANDFILLS. OKAY. AND IT'S GIVING THE SITUATION HERE FOR MY EXPERIENCE AND MY RELATIONSHIPS. WHY ARE THEY NOT WE HAVE YOU STILL HAVE JUST ON THE MSW ALONE. YOU STILL HAVE OVER 40% OF CUSTOMERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME TO THE CITY OF LANDFILL. BUT GIVEN THE ACTIVITIES OUT THERE AND THE WAY IT IS BEING RUN, THEY ARE NOT COMING. AND THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROMISED THAT WILL TAKE IT OVER.

THEY ARE COMING RIGHT, RIGHT OUT OF THE BACK TO THE TO WORK WITH US, WITH THE CITY OF CITY OF PORTO, IN RELATIONS TO THE. THAT WE'RE GOING TO SIT FOR TWO YEARS. THAT IS NOT TRUE. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PERMIT PROCESS. SO WE'LL GET THAT CLARIFIED FOR YOU GUYS. BUT YES, THERE ARE. AND WHILE YOU'RE CHANGING OVER FORT WORTH IS CORPUS CHRISTI, ARLINGTON AND VICTORIA. I'LL SEND YOU SIR. I JUST JUST KIND OF NAMED OUT THE ONES THAT THAT I, THAT I HAVE RESEARCHED AND THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THIRD PARTY COMPANIES TO RUN THEIR LANDFILL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, MAYOR. SO TO ADDRESS THE PASTORS CONCERN, I HAVE 36 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE PERMITTING, DESIGNING, CONSTRUCTING AND OPERATING MSW LANDFILLS, NOT JUST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUT ACROSS MOST OF THE WESTERN STATES. SO I FEEL LIKE WE ARE WELL QUALIFIED. WE'VE COME TOGETHER AS A TEAM, WHICH I THINK IS MIGHT BE THE POINT

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THAT YOU'RE MAKING. ISG SINGULARLY IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VERSUS COLLECTIVELY, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE. WHAT I WILL SAY IS THIS MUCH THE RFQ TO BUILD A CELL, TO ACCEPT INDUSTRIAL WASTE, THAT'LL NEVER WORK, BECAUSE YOUR PERMIT WON'T ALLOW YOU TO TAKE CLASS ONE NON INDUSTRIAL WASTE. YOU CAN TAKE CLASS TWO OR YOU CAN TAKE CLASS THREE FROM MOTIVA, CHEVRON, VALERO WHEREVER. BUT AND YOU COULD TAKE IT TODAY BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE CLASS ONE UNTIL YOU PERFORM A LIMITED SCOPE PERMIT AMENDMENT FOR YOUR EXISTING PERMIT. RIGHT. AND THAT PROCESS CAN BE EXPEDITED VIA REGULATIONS. AND THEY'VE HAD THIS IN PLACE SINCE 2014 FOR AN ADDITIONAL COST, WHICH REDUCES THE TIME IT TAKES TO EXECUTE AND COMPLETE A PERMIT. A LIMITED SCOPE PERMIT AMENDMENT AND YOUR THIRD PARTY ATTORNEY SHOULD PROBABLY EXPLAIN THAT IN DETAIL. THAT'S WHY, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, WITH MY EXPERIENCE, I CAN DO IT IN A YEAR. WHAT I WILL SAY IS THIS YOUR LANDFILL AS IT SITS TODAY, THERE IS NO ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGER FROM MOTIVA VALERO. CHENIERE NAMED THE PLANT OF CHOICE THAT WILL WALK INTO THAT LANDFILL AND NOT COME OUT AND GIVE YOU GUYS SOME SORT OF APPROVAL TO ACCEPT THEIR WASTE BECAUSE IT NEEDS THUS THE 25 MILLION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT, IT NEEDS SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, TO BRING IT TO WITHIN THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL GUIDELINES AND THE WAY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE LANDFILL RUN. THAT'S WHY THEY GO TO REPUBLIC SERVICES OFF LAVELLE ROAD, OR THAT'S WHY THEY GO TO WASTE MANAGEMENT OVER IN DEWEYVILLE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. COUNCIL, WE HAVE NO MORE. I'M SORRY, I PLEASE ADD ONE MORE LAST THING.

YES, SIR. GO RIGHT ON AHEAD. I SEE YOUR LIGHT. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. OH. I'M SORRY, DID I INTERRUPT SOMEBODY? OH, NO NO, NO I GIVE NO, SIR. YOU'RE GOOD. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. SO. RIGHT.

LET'S TAKE A TINY, TINY BREATHER. I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE RAMPED UP, BUT I KIND OF WANT TO BRING EVERYBODY TO BACK TO A PILLAR TO KIND OF REMEMBER WHY ALL OF US ARE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. MY FIRST TIME EVER COMING TO PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, WAS VERY, VERY, VERY LONG TIME AGO. I USED TO RUN AROUND THE STREETS, DRIVE THROUGH 73, AND I WAS JUST REMINISCING THIS MORNING ON MY WAY HERE, AND I LOOKED AT THE SIGN AND IT SAID, A GATEWAY.

PORT ARTHUR IS THE GATEWAY. AND THAT STRUCK ME BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE HERE, WHAT EVERYONE IS HERE FOR THE CITIZENS, THE BEAUTIFUL STATE, THE BEAUTIFUL CITY, US IS WHAT WE'RE ALL HERE FOR IS TO CREATE THAT GATEWAY. AND WHERE IS THAT GATEWAY GOING TO TAKE US TO? IT'S GOING TO TAKE PORT ARTHUR, THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, TO A STATE OF EVOLUTION. RIGHT NOW, IF WE SEE TRUCKS DRIVING, PASSING OUR LANDFILL, DIRTYING THE STREETS OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, WHATEVER DERIVES FROM ALL OF THOSE TRUCKS PASSING US UP, WE ARE NOT CAPTURING THAT ADVANTAGE OF TAKING THAT OFF OF THE STREETS AND MAKING OUR OUR ROADS CLEANER, SAFER, AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY, GIVING MORE TO THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT LITTLE PIECE AND JUST KIND OF REMIND EVERYBODY WHY WE'RE HERE AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM, AND WE JUST WANT TO PUSH THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. OH, AND LET ME ALSO ADD, FOR THE CITIZENS, WE'RE ALSO INCLUDING A CITIZENS COLLECTION CENTER.

THEREFORE IT WILL BE NICE, TIDY. YOU CAN COME AND DROP OFF YOUR TRASH THERE AT THE CITY. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE NO CHARGE TO THE CITY AT ALL. NO CHARGE TO THE CITY CITIZEN. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY, VERY CLEAR. ABSOLUTELY. ZERO CHARGE TO THE CITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER FRANK, I THINK WE HAVE ONE ONE COUNCILMEMBER FRANK. YEAH. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO ADD, MAYOR, I THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO GIVE THOSE FOUR COMPANIES, BUT WE LIVE IN A TIME WHERE WE CAN'T EVEN ARGUE ABOUT WHO'S THE BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER IN AMERICA, WHETHER IT'S LEBRON OR MICHAEL JORDAN, BECAUSE WE HAVE AI AND WE HAVE ADP, WE HAVE CHATGPT AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO TO FACT CHECK. AND SO WHILE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE ARE ONLY FOUR LANDFILLS THAT HAVE THAT, I CHATGPT DID. AND SO HISTORICALLY, WE'VE HAD TO UNDERSTAND THAT 10% OF LANDFILLS IN AMERICA HAVE

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PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS. AND I CAN READ THAT FROM YOU FOR THAT. I DIDN'T GO TO CHATGPT. BUT ANYWAY, THERE YOU GO. OKAY, SO SO I WANTED US TO REALLY HAVE THE FACTS AND REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MOVE THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR FORWARD. I PRAY THAT WE WOULD NOT. I'M SORRY. NO, NO, I JUST PRAY THAT AS WE GO FORWARD THAT WE'LL MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR OUR CITIES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALWAYS SEEK TO DO IS TO PLANT TREES FOR GENERATIONS. AND I KNOW I WON'T EAT FROM THAT TREE. SO I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING OR CAUSE SOMETHING TO HAPPEN IN PORT ARTHUR THAT WOULD NOT BLESS OR BENEFIT PERHAPS THIS GENERATION AS MUCH AS SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL COME ON AFTER US. THE THE FORMER COUNCILWOMAN MADE THE COMMENT THAT SHE NEVER VOTED ON A AND I LOVE HER TO DEATH. SHE'S RIGHT. WE WE WE HUG EACH OTHER AND WE MAKE STATEMENTS. BUT SHE MADE THE SHE MADE THE STATEMENT THAT I NEVER VOTED FOR A WATER BILL, AND I DIDN'T CARE WHETHER OR NOT IT GOT THE CITY IN THE RED OR NOT. AND WE SAW HOW THAT TURNED OUT. SO I WANT TO SAY WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS NOW THAT WILL AND THAT WILL NOT PLACE THE CITY IN A DIRE SITUATION IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER EVERSFIELD, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR LAST TIME SPEAKING ON THIS TOPIC. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE FOR COUNCIL AND THE AUDIENCE THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THE ARGUMENT IS THAT EA SHOULD NOT OFFER THE SERVICES THAT THEY PRESENTED. I DON'T THINK THE ARGUMENT HAS BEEN THEY HAVEN'T HAD PROVEN EXPERIENCE. IT IS IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LAND, WITH A COMPANY COMING IN TO MANAGE OUR LANDFILL IN ITS ENTIRETY, HAVE WE DONE IT IN THE MOST INTEGRAL, ETHICAL AND. WAY THAT WILL BE THE LEAST LITIGIOUS ROAD FOR THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. AND SO IT'S IT'S I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MAY BE OPEN TO THESE OPTIONS, BUT LET'S JUST DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. AND THE ART WAS FOR THE SALE. LET'S PUT OUT AN RFQ FOR THE ENTIRETY. LET'S GO THROUGH OUR DUE PROCESS. AND ESG ISN'T HELD FROM BEING A PART OF THAT PROCESS. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, ONCE WE GO THROUGH THE CORRECT PROCESS, COUNCIL STILL HAS THE LAST SAY ON WHICH ENTITY WE CHOOSE TO PROVIDE EITHER THE SALE OR DO THE ENTIRE LANDFILL. I'M JUST ASKING COUNCIL PLEADING WITH COUNCIL TO PLEASE DO THIS THE PROPER WAY, THE MOST INTEGRAL WAY AND THE LEAST LITIGIOUS ROLE FOR THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS. YOU KNOW. AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A VOTE, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO A ROLL CALL AFTER COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS. OKAY, OKAY.

AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, OUR JOB IS TO FIND SOURCES OF REVENUE. AND I KNOW THAT'S A SOURCE OF REVENUE. AND WE GOT OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE. YOUR LEGACY, THE LEGACY IS WHAT YOU SET IN MOTION. I DON'T WANT TO MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET SOMETHING IN MOTION THAT'S GOING TO BE POSITIVE, AND IT'S GOING TO GENERATE REVENUE INTO THE FUTURE. I LIKE DONALD FRANK.

I'M WILLING TO PLANT THAT TREE THAT'S GOING TO BEAR FRUIT, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE EATING IT.

I WILL NOT PUT CITY EMPLOYEES AT RISK. THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HASN'T BEEN CLEARED UP. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO ABOUT THE CITY EMPLOYEES? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY EMPLOYEES STAYS WITH THE CITY. YES, IT STAYS WITH THE CITY. CORRECT. THEY THEY COVER THE EXPENSES? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO RISK FOR CITY EMPLOYEES. NO RISK. BUT I'M ABOUT LEGACY. MY LEGACY IS WHAT I SET IN MOTION FOR THE FUTURE. SOME PEOPLE LEGACY IS WHAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY LEAVE THEIR CHILDREN THAT DON'T TEACH THEM CORE VALUES. IT'S A PROVEN FACT THAT ONLY 3% OF THE OF THE MONEY THAT WAS THAT WAS INHERITED GET INCREASED. THEY JUST SPENT AND WASTED. SO OUR LEGACY IS WHAT WE PUT IN PLACE. AND THAT'S

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WHAT I'M ABOUT FUTURE REVENUES. NOW WE CAN GO STEP FURTHER IF THEY IF THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT CITY EMPLOYEES, IF THEY ALL HAD THEM. WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE CITY IS WE BUDGET EVERY YEAR. WE BUDGET A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY EVERY YEAR SO THAT IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE'LL HAVE REVENUES TO START OR TO CONTINUE OR TO BACKFILL. SO MY LEGACY IS SET THINGS IN MOTION THAT'S GOING TO BE BENEFITING THE CITY IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT REVENUES. OKAY. WELL WE CAN I'M SORRY YOU MENTIONED A VOTE, BUT WE ALSO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU ABOUT THE ATTORNEY THAT SCHEDULED TO SPEAK WITH US. OKAY. WELL, WE CAN HOLD THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION. I THINK WE CAN. I'VE GOT. WELL, LET'S SEE, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ONE ON THE FLOOR. LET'S. YES, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD. COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HOLD THIS PR NUMBER 24 750 UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION. SECOND. SO IT'S BEEN MOVED IMPROPERLY. SECOND THAT WE HOLD PR NUMBER 24750 UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION. ANY DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I ANY NOS. THE AYES HAVE IT. WE'LL HOLD THIS

[VIII.A. (14) P.R. No. 24752 - A Resolution Of The City Of Port Arthur, Texas, To Establish And Implement City Council Appointees' Committees To Conduct Monthly Interactive Engagement Performance Reviews (Requested By Councilmember Hamilton Everfield)]

UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PR NUMBER 24752. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, TO ESTABLISH AND IMPLEMENT CITY COUNCIL APPOINTEES, COMMITTEES TO CONDUCT MONTHLY INTERACTIVE ENGAGEMENT PERFORMANCE REVIEWS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HAMILTON. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET. YES, WE HAVE EVALUATION FORMS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE EVALUATING OUR APPOINTEES. THEY'RE DUE NEXT MONTH. OKAY. THE EVALUATION FORM STATES, THE AREAS AND THE THINGS WE SHOULD BE EVALUATING OUR APPOINTEES ON. OKAY. AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I FEEL WE NEED TO DO DURING THE YEAR. AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE THEN EVALUATE THEM, ALL OF OUR APPOINTEES UP TO THIS DATE HAVE A COPY OF THAT EVALUATION. SO THEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND AND KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT THEIR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE ABOUT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ABOUT US WANTING THEM TO DO WHAT WE THINK THEY SHOULD DO WHEN WE EVALUATE THEM.

IT'S NOT WHAT WE THINK THEY SHOULD DO WHEN WE EVALUATE THEM. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING BY THE EVALUATION SHEET THAT DESCRIBES SPECIFICALLY WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE, SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY SHOULD DO. SO THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. YOU KNOW, MEETING WITH THEM. THIS COMMITTEE KNOW THEY HAVE A COPY OF THEIR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. THEY SHOULD KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE EVALUATING THEM ON. AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD EVALUATE THEM ON SO THAT OUR COMBINED EVALUATION IS BASED ON THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS AND THEIR INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, NO GROUP, NO. THREE, FOUR PEOPLE CAN GO AND SPEAK TO AN APPOINTEE AND REPRESENT ANYTHING THAT I'M THAT I MIGHT WANT TO SAY OR WANT TO DO. AND IF I HAVE AN ISSUE DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME, THEN I'LL GO AND TALK WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL AND LET THEM KNOW, BECAUSE THE EVALUATION IS WHAT WE DO, AND THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS TRYING TO BRING HIM UP A FARMER. NO, THEY HAVE A LIST OF WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING. THEY HAVE A LIST THAT SAYS SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE THEM ON, AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE EVALUATING THEM, NOT THINGS WE THINK ARE WHAT WE EXPECT. WE MUST BE UNIFORM WITH THAT. AND WE WANT TO DO THIS.

BUT WHEN WE DO THE ANNUAL EVALUATION, I'VE GOT ONE TIME THAT EVERYBODY TURNED IT IN AT THE DATE WE SAY THEY SHOULD BE IN. WE CAN'T EVEN DO THAT. SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULD BE FORMING COMMITTEES TO TALK ABOUT OUR PERFORMANCE OF OUR APPOINTEES WHEN THEY ALL HAVE A EVALUATION SHEET THAT WE MUST WE MUST FOLLOW WHEN EVALUATING THEM. SO I SEE NO NEED FOR THIS.

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THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY COUNCILMEMBER EVER FEEL THANK YOU MAYOR, FOR CLARITY TO COUNCIL AND TO THE CITIZENS. THIS THESE COMMITTEES PURPOSE ARE NOT FOR ONLY EVALUATIONS.

THIS IS NOT FOR THE COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE OUR APPOINTEES AND THEN BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO TO THE FULL COUNCIL. THAT'S A MISUNDERSTANDING. THE PURPOSE OF THESE MEETINGS IS FOR COUNCILORS AND APPOINTEES TO SHARE IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITIES WHICH COUNCIL HAS IDENTIFIED. SO WE WILL CANNOT EXPECT WHAT WE DON'T INSPECT. AND WE SHOULDN'T BE WAITING UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR DURING EVALUATION TIME TO BEGIN INSPECTING IF THEY'VE DONE WHAT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO THESE QUARTERLY CHECK INS WILL GIVE US THE I MEAN, MONTHLY CHECK INS WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THESE MEASURABLE METHODS OF SUPPORT FOR US TO SHARE FEEDBACK WITH THEM, TO THEM, TO SHARE FEEDBACK WITH US, AND IMPLEMENT STRATEGIC PLANS OF ACTION ONLY APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THESE OPPORTUNITIES OVER THE NEXT 30 DAYS. SO IT'S GIVEN US A MEASURABLE PLAN IN ORDER TO STAY TIME ON TASK WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAVE GIVEN TO OUR APPOINTEES. WE AGAIN CANNOT EXPECT WHAT WE DON'T INSPECT, AND SO I'M ASKING FOR US TO DO A BETTER JOB THROUGH THIS METHOD WITH INSPECTING AND CREATING A MORE PROACTIVE AND NON-BIASED RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR STAFF SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

AND IT'S NOT US RECEIVING INFORMATION OF SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T GO RIGHT WHEN IT'S ALREADY HIT THE FAN. SO US HAVING THESE CONSTANT COMMUNICATION, CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH OUR STAFF. ASSIST THEM WITH NOT DAILY HAVING TO TALK TO ALL SEVEN OF US. SO THESE COMMITTEES AGAIN WILL ALSO ROTATE. AND THAT WAS ALL PROVIDED IN THE IN THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION OF THIS RESOLUTION. WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. I REQUESTED THIS, AND IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE THAT WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THESE COMMITTEES BY THE COUNCIL. THE THIS RESOLUTION IS JUST US PUTTING ON THE BOOKS HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT. SO I'M ASKING FOR SUPPORT NOT ONLY FOR US AS A COUNCIL, BUT FOR OUR STAFF, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THESE MORE EFFECTIVE ENGAGEMENT ENGAGEMENTS WITH OUR STAFF.

THANK YOU MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. EVER FEEL WE OKAY? OKAY. JUST ONE SECOND.

COUNCIL MEMBER I SEE YOUR LIGHT. OKAY. BUT I THINK IF I JUST QUICKLY WE DID THIS BACK IN 2019 I THINK WE HAD TEAMS THREE AND THREE AND THEN WE CAME BACK. COUNCILMAN KINLAW, YOU WERE HERE. AND I THINK THAT IT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE BECAUSE WE CAME BACK TO THE TABLE TO KIND OF DISCUSS WHAT HAD HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, SEVEN PEOPLE CAN'T GET TO THE APPOINTEES, CAN'T GET TO SEVEN PEOPLE. SO I DO THINK THAT THE COMMITTEES ARE VERY HELPFUL IN BRINGING INFORMATION, NOT TELLING ONE PERSON HOW TO DO IT, BUT AT LEAST WHAT WE'VE OBSERVED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR. AND OF COURSE, WE'RE ALL INDIVIDUALLY OBSERVING. BUT BASICALLY, AS A TEAM, THREE PEOPLE ARE ASSIGNED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, THREE PEOPLE ASSIGNED TO THE CITY MANAGER, THREE PEOPLE ASSIGNED TO THE CITY SECRETARY. AND THEN THAT WAY WE COLLABORATE, AND THAT'S HOW WE SEE WHAT THE MEASURABLE THINGS ARE THAT ARE ATTACHED TO YOUR RESOLUTION. SO I AM I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING WE DID IT BEFORE. AND HAVING IT AGAIN HELPS OUT. SO, COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET, YES, I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE INITIATED AND THAT'S PART OF MY OBJECTIONS TO HAVING IT, BECAUSE YES, WE HAD THOSE COMMITTEES AND WE HAD THREE PEOPLE, AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE MET MORE THAN ONE TIME IN THE WHOLE TIME. ONE TIME I WAS ON COUNCIL, I WAS ON ONE OF THE COMMITTEES, AND I THINK WE DONE THAT ONE TIME. THAT'S WHY I KEEP SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE WE GOT THINGS SOUND GOOD, BUT DO WE DO THEM? I WAS ON COUNCIL, I REMEMBER. YES, WE DID IT, BUT IT WASN'T EVERY QUARTER LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE. IT WAS LIKE ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, IN IT'S JUST LIKE I SAID ABOUT GETTING EVALUATION. WE, WE GOT THESE THINGS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT BUT REALLY DO THEM.

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YEAH. WE TALKING ABOUT WE DID IT BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL. WE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IT EVERY QUARTER. WE AIN'T DONE IT. BUT ONE TIME THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. DOING THINGS AND THEN MAKING IT HAPPEN INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING THINGS AND NOTHING HAPPENS. OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER. EVER FEEL. THANK YOU MAYOR. AGAIN IN WITH THE ATTACK. AND I KNOW YOU READ IT, MR. DOUCETTE, BECAUSE YOU READ IT ALL. THERE IS A PLAN OF ACTION. SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR WHAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL DID IN 2019. I KNOW THAT WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED THIS PART OF THE PROCESS, 2015, 2016, IT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE. SO I'M PUTTING I PUT PEN TO PAPER TO GIVE US A STRATEGIC PLAN OF ACTION OF HOW WE CAN DO THIS, WHICH INCLUDES A WRITTEN REPORT OF THOSE IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITIES AND STRATEGIC PLANS OF ACTION ARE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL SO THAT COUNCIL CAN VOTE ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS OF IT BEING PRESENTED TO US. SO THERE IS A STRATEGIC PLAN OF ACTION. IT'S UP TO US AND WHETHER WE FOLLOW THROUGH OR NOT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. HI. I ANY NOS. NO.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE FIVE EYES LOOK LIKE AND TWO NO'S. THE MOTION THE RESOLUTION PASSES. THANK

[VIII.A. (15) P.R. No. 24753 - A Resolution Of The City Of Port Arthur, Texas, To Instruct City Staff To Prepare A Resolution And To Hold An Election Declaring Pleasure Island As A Slum And Blighted Area That Requires Rehabilitation, Conservation, Or Slum Clearance And Redevelopment For The Public Health, Safety, Morals, Or Welfare Of The Residents (Requested By Councilmember Lewis)]

YOU. OKAY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO NUMBER 15 ON PAGE NUMBER NINE PR NUMBER 24753A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, TO INSTRUCT CITY STAFF TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION AND TO HOLD AN ELECTION DECLARING PLEASURE ISLAND AS A SLUM AND BLIGHTED AREA THAT REQUIRES REHABILITATION, CONSERVATION OR SLUM CLEARANCE AND REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS AND WELFARE OF THE RESIDENTS. REQUESTED BY COUNCILMEMBER LOUIS. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND? OH I CAN'T, I NEED, I NEED. NO, YOU I NEED A SECOND. MY MOTION TO BE REMOVED. I'M SORRY. WHAT? TO REMOVE IT.

OH. YOU'RE REMOVING IT? HE REMOVED IT. I. OKAY, LET'S GO BACK TO THE TABLE. WE'RE GOING TO GET A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS RESOLUTION. NUMBER 24753. CAN I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE WHAT? I HAVE TO RESCIND MY MOTION. OKAY. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. MY MIND IS TRYING TO GET ON. OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT I RESCIND MY MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE FLOOR. OKAY, SO NOW I NEED A MOTION FOR REMOVAL. OKAY. I NEED A SECOND QUESTION. OKAY. GO AHEAD. SECOND, TO REMOVE ANY DISCUSSIONS ON REMOVING. YES, COUNCILMEMBER. THE TERM OF SLUM BLIGHTED AREA DECLINE BEFORE YOU. YOU YOU COULD PUT A BROWNFIELD IN IN MOTION. YOU HAD TO YOU HAD TO DO THESE THINGS. THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR HAS BEEN DESIGNATED BLIGHTED IN 1982. WE HAVE I READ THE RESOLUTION. SO IT'S BEEN DONE AND WE HAVE WE HAVE AT LEAST 10 TO 15 BROWNFIELD DESIGNATED AREAS. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARY. SO WE JUST HAVE TO REMOVE IT. NOW WHAT IS WANTED THE, THE THE LEASEE, THE LEASEE. THE LESSEE WOULD LIKE TO WOULD LIKE FOR THE COUNCIL TO ISSUE A LETTER GIVEN HE DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY. THEY ISSUE A LETTER TO THE LEASEE SO HE CAN THEY CAN DESIGNATE AS A BROWNFIELD, OKAY. THEY CAN DESIGNATE WEIGHT. WE'RE UNDER DISCUSSIONS OF REMOVING YOUR ITEM. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. YEAH. YOU SPOKE ABOUT THAT. AND SO WE'RE DONE OKAY. AND I'M UNDER DISCUSSIONS. ANYBODY ANYBODY ON COUNCIL. NO I HAVE NO OTHER LIGHT.

COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS. COUNCILMEMBER KINLAW. NO. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY MAYOR, WE WILL JUST REMOVE IT. OKAY. THAT'S IT. OKAY. SO NO QUESTIONS. WE'RE MOVING. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. HI. HOW MANY KNOWS? NONE. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION IS REMOVED FROM

[VIII.A. (16) P.R. No. 24759 - A Resolution Authorizing The City Of Port Arthur To Utilize The Omnia Partners Cooperative Purchasing Program With McGriff As Vendor For The Procurement Of Property And Windstorm Insurance For The City Of Port Arthur, Texas]

THE AGENDA. PR NUMBER 24759. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR TO UTILIZE THE OMNI PARTNERS COOPERATIVE PURCHASING PROGRAM, WITH MCGRIFF AS VENDOR FOR THE PROCUREMENT OF PROPERTY AND WINDSTORM INSURANCE FOR THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. THE EYES. ANY NOS? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES. WE'RE

[VIII.B. (1) P.O. No. 7390 - An Appropriation Ordinance Amending The City Of Port Arthur Budget For The Fiscal Year Beginning October 1, 2025, And Ending September 30, 2026, Increasing The Municipal Court Technology And Building Fund (104) By $92,000.00]

GOING TO MOVE TO BE ORDINANCES. NONCONSENT PO NUMBER 7390. AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR'S BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST,

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2025 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. INCREASING THE MUNICIPAL COURT, TECHNOLOGY AND BUILDING FUND 104 BY $92,000. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET. COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET IS FIRST. YES. SIR. COUNCILMEMBER DOUCET, SHE'S COMING. OKAY. FINANCE DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. OKAY. LYNN, WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM? THIS IS COMING FROM THE FUND. BALANCE OF FUND ONE ZERO FOR MUNICIPAL COURT AND TECHNOLOGY. THAT IS THAT IS ACTUALLY THE PURPOSE FOR THIS FUND THAT MATCHES. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER JUST SAID WE'RE INCREASING IT, OKAY? WE'RE INCREASING THE MONEY FOR THE BUDGET. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. BY 92. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. WHERE IS THE 92 COMING FROM? THE FUND BALANCE, THE CASH THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ON HAND THAT WAS NOT APPROPRIATED BY COUNCIL. THE REASON I'M ASKING YOU THAT QUESTION, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT TO ME, AT LEAST LET ME KNOW. THIS 92 IS COMING FROM THAT RESERVE. SO I KNOW I THOUGHT I HAD PUT FUND BALANCE ON THE ATTACHMENT, AM I MISTAKEN? DID I NEGLECT TO DO THAT? WELL, I'M I'M I'M READING THE. YES. SO I THERE THERE WAS AN ATTACHMENT A ONE AND TWO AND I THOUGHT THE FIRST ONE HAD FUND BALANCE NEXT TO THAT. AND AM I MISTAKEN. WELL WHY CAN'T WE PUT IT IN HERE. SO EVERYBODY READING CITIZEN, EVERYBODY WILL KNOW THAT WE'RE MOVING MONEY.

IT'S PART OF THE ORDINANCE. IT IS A PART OF THE ORDINANCE ATTACHMENT. IT SHOULD BE IN THERE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ORDINANCE WE READ HERE, PEOPLE OUT THERE, THEY JUST KNOW THAT WE GOT $92 MILLION GOING 92,000. OKAY. I MEAN, 90, 2000. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY 92,000 FROM YOU WOULD LIKE IT INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE IN THE FUTURE? I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IT SO EVERYBODY KNOW WE'RE MOVING MONEY THAT THAT READ THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE CITIZENS, THEY DON'T READ THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION WE DO. A LOT OF THEM DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO READ THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. I KEEP SAYING, LET'S JUST PUT THINGS SO THAT IN LAYMAN TERMS, MOST OF THE TIME IT DOESN'T REQUIRE. BUT ONE MORE LINE ON THIS $92 FROM. BUT IT IS THERE IS THERE THOUGH. OH YEAH. WAIT JUST A MINUTE, CITY MANAGER. IT WAS. IT WAS IN. YES. I'M SORRY.

LOOK AT IT. THERE IS A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO FUND THE ANNUAL TAYLOR PRO SOFTWARE FOR THE MUNICIPAL CITY MANAGER. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. OH. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU PUT YOUR MIC CLOSER TO YOU TO SPEAK IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH? SHE HAS IT THERE. THERE IS AN EXISTING HEALTHY FUND BALANCE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO FUND THE ANNUAL TAYLOR PRO SOFTWARE FOR THE MUNICIPAL COURT. OKAY. OKAY. NOW THAT WE READ ALL THAT, LET ME GO BACK TO MY POINT THAT I'M MAKING. MY POINT THAT I'M MAKING IS IF THE CITIZENS COME IN HERE AND THEY PICK UP THIS SHEET, OKAY. AND THEY READ THIS, IT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE IT BY $92 MILLION, 92,000. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GETTING LATE. LIKE THE MAYOR SAYS. I'M SAYING IT'S GETTING LATE. SO ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS SAY 92 FROM THIS FUND, BALANCE OUR RESERVE. OKAY. AND THEN AND THEN EVERYBODY OUT HERE WILL KNOW WE'RE TRANSFERRING THE MONEY. OKAY? THAT'S ALL IT DOES REQUIRE. BUT ONE SENTENCE HERE TO BE FOR THEM OKAY. WE WE READ THE BACKGROUND I READ THE BACKGROUND. EVERYBODY READ THE BACKGROUND. AND THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT OUR RESOLUTIONS THAT WE WRITE. THAT'S WHERE THE TRANSPARENCY AND EVERYTHING BECOME CLEAR TO CITIZENS. IT'S HOW WE WRITE THINGS AND PRESENT THINGS IN LAYMAN'S TERMS TO CITIZENS AND NOT ABOVE THEIR HEADS. THAT'S THAT'S ALL MY POINT. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT DIDN'T TAKE BUT MAYBE ABOUT ONE SENTENCE AND YOU COULD ACCOMPLISH THAT. YEAH, I, I WILL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER TO ENSURE THAT THAT HAS MORE TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LYNN. YEAH, BECAUSE THE COM DOESN'T GO TO THE PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC DON'T SEE THE CAM. YEAH. BUT OKAY. YEAH OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KINLAW HAS HIS LIGHT ON. YEAH OKAY. DO YOU HAVE YOUR SHEET WITH YOU LYNN I DON'T HAVE THE SHEET. DO YOU MEAN THE AGENDA? YEAH, YES I DO. GRAB IT REAL QUICK. LET ME LET YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING. AND THE MAYOR, HER DUE DILIGENCE AS WELL AS. ARE WE COMMUNICATING? SIDEBAR. BUT GO ON PAGE SEVEN AND COHORTS LOOK AT NUMBER SIX, SIX, SEVEN. YEAH. HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

YEAH I THINK CONTINGENT. SO MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING. OR YOU CAN KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT TO

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ME. LOOK AT PAGE SEVEN. NUMBER SIX. YOU SEE THAT. YES. YES. IS THAT MEANT TO BE THAT WAY, LYNN? AND THEN WE'RE PROVING AGAIN ON ORDINANCE NON-CONSENT. WELL, I THINK WHAT I'M SORRY, IS IT ONE BEFORE THE OTHER OR HOW ARE WE PULLING THAT? GIVE ME SOME CLARITY ON THAT. MAYOR. HAVE YOU GOT SOMETHING? GO AHEAD. YEAH, LET ME JUST. WELL, I SEE HERE MAYBE IT'S NOT THE SAME, BUT IS THAT SHE DID NOTE THAT. AND WE APPROVED THIS RESOLUTION, BUT IT SAYS CONTINGENT ON BUDGET AMENDMENT PL 7390. SO I KNEW THAT WE APPROVED IT, KNOWING THAT WE'D HAVE TO TRANSFER SOME MONEY AT THE END OF THE DAY. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S YOUR INTENTION. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS. BUT I JUST POINTED THAT OUT, THAT IT WAS THERE FOR US TO AMEND THE BUDGET. OKAY. JUST WANTED AND IT'S THERE FOR CITIZENS AND ANYBODY TO SEE TO SEE THAT THAT IS CONTINGENT UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT BEING MADE. YES. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU.

ALRIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. HI. THE AYES ANY NO'S? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES.

[VIII.B. (2) P.O. No. 7392 - An Ordinance Of The City Council Of Port Arthur, Texas, Authorizing Participation With Other Entergy Service Area Cities In Matters Concerning Entergy Texas, Inc. At The Public Utility Commission Of Texas In 2026; Authorizing The Hiring Of Lawyers And Rate Experts; Authorizing The City's Participation To The Full Extent Permitted By Law At The Public Utility Commission Of Texas, Finding That The Meeting Complies With The Open Meetings Act; And Declaring An Effective Date]

ALRIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO I'M SORRY. THE ORDINANCE PASSES PO NUMBER 7392. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION WITH OTHER ENTERGY SERVICE AREA CITIES IN MATTERS CONCERNING ENTERGY TEXAS, INCORPORATED AT THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION OF TEXAS IN 2026, AUTHORIZING THE HIRING OF LAWYERS AND RATE EXPERTS, AUTHORIZING THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION TO THE FULL EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW AT THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION OF TEXAS. FINDING THAT THE MEETING COMPLIES WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY NOS. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE ORDINANCE PASSES. WE WILL NOW TAKE. I'M SORRY. HELLO. MAY I SAY SOMETHING? ONE THING.

CAN I GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION? CAN I GIVE THE COUNCIL THE INFORMATION THAT THEY REQUESTED FROM MISS ROBERTS? I HAVE IT RIGHT THERE. YES, OKAY. COUNCIL APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF THE TUB GRINDER ON JUNE 4TH, 2025. IT WAS RECEIVED. THE TUB GRINDER WAS RECEIVED IN AUGUST 2025. OUR CONSULTANT ENGINEERING BEGAN THE APPLICATION PROCESS IN SEPTEMBER AND WE SUBMITTED THE AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT OR THE WE SUBMITTED THE AMENDMENT FOR THE PERMIT IN NOVEMBER 2025. SO IT'S BEEN ONGOING. SO THE PERMIT HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED US YET ISSUED, BUT WE APPLIED FOR IT. ABSOLUTELY. THIS YEAR. YES. LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR OKAY OKAY OKAY. ALRIGHT. AMENDMENT OR MODIFICATION. MODIFICATION OKAY. YES OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE'RE

[IX. *CLOSED MEETING (EXECUTIVE SESSION)]

GOING TO GO INTO OUR CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW GO INTO A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER NUMBER ONE SECTION 551071A LEGAL ADVICE CONTRACT FOR THE STUDY DESIGN, PERMIT, CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE A FACILITY THAT WILL RECEIVE WASTE THAT IS NOT PERMITTED UNDER THE CURRENT CITY OF PORT ARTHUR LANDFILL PERMIT REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FRANK. NUMBER TWO. SECTION 551071 LEGAL ADVICE PROHIBITED CAMPING AND CRIMINAL TRESPASS ENFORCEMENT AUTHORIZATION REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BECKHAM. WE WILL CONSIDER SECTION 551071 LEGAL ADVICE DECLARING PLEASURE ISLAND AS A SLUM AND BLIGHTED AREA REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS. SECTION 551071 LEGAL ADVICE DUMPING ON 900 ACRES AT PLEASURE ISLAND REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS. SECTION 551071 LITIGATION KURT THOMAS VERSUS CITY OF PORT ARTHUR AND FLOZELL ROBERTS, CIVIL ACTION NUMBER 123, CV 282, IN THE US EASTERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS AND NUMBER SIX, SECTION 551074.

PERSONNEL, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CITY SECRETARY REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BECKHAM. CAN I GET A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? ONCE I GET THE MOTION AND A SECOND, THEN WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS. SO CAN I GET A MOTION? OKAY, IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSIONS ON OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS? YES. I'D LIKE TO ASK COUNCILMAN LEWIS. WE HE REMOVED THIS ITEM ALREADY. TWO SEPARATE ONES. OKAY, THEN THAT'S THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I HAVE NO. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY I, I ANY NOS. THE AYES HAVE. IT WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING S

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Jan 27, 2026 City Council

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