* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. THANK YOU, OFFICER. COMING [00:00:04] CALLED THE MEETING [I. Chairperson’s Opening Remarks] ORDER AT 5:30 PM ROLL CALL JOHNNY BROWN. PRESENT SN VILLE. PRESENT? WHITE. WHITE PRESENT NORTH. SIMON. PRESENT PROOF OF THE MINUTES [IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] FROM DECEMBER THE FIRST 2025. SO MOVED. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. UNFINISHED BUSINESS. NONE. NEW BUSINESS. [VI. NEW BUSINESS - PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS (INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION)] OKAY, MS. YES SIR. I'M SORRY. YES SIR, IT IS. WOULD YOU TAKE R 26 DASH OH ONE RELA? YES SIR. R 26 DASH ZERO ONE. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS J ALLEN REEN. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 60 37 AND 60 41 RAY AVENUE. JK PARCEL NUMBER 2 5 2 85 AND 2 5 2 8 4. THE REQUEST TYPE IS AN APPROVAL OF A REPL IN THE CH COX SUBDIVISION. THE PLANNING IS ZONING. COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A REPL REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING. ALL OF LOTS. 12 AND 13 BLOCK THREE. CH COX SUBDIVISION, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE NEW TRACK NAME TRACK 12 DASH A AND 12 DASH B BLOCK THREE CH COX SUBDIVISION, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, PORT CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS, SORRY, COMMISSIONERS. THE LOT DIMENSIONS. 255 SQUARE FEET BY 75 FEET TOTALING INTO 19,125 SQUARE FEET. THE CURRENT ZONING IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE PROPOSED ZONING IS NONE. AND ALL THE ABUTTING ZONES ARE ALL NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST. LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPL IS TO MOVE A LINE TO REDEFINE TWO TRACK C FOR EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. AN APPLICATION FOR A REPL WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON OR AROUND DECEMBER 1ST, 2025. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPLANT IS TO MOVE A LINE TO REDEFINE TWO TRACK SEAT FOR EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 18TH, 2025, 13. NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN A PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER, A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PNZ PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY. JANUARY 5TH, 2026. AND THAT IS ALL COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. ARIES ON THE LOT DIMENSIONS THAT 75 FOOT MM-HMM . SLIDE THAT WHAT? IS THAT THE PER LOT OR IS THAT THE WHOLE THAT'S THE ENTIRE BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER. HMM. AND THEY WANT TO TAKE, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. THEY WANT TO TAKE, THERE'S THREE AND THEY WANT TO TAKE THERE'S TWO. THEY WANNA MOVE THE LINE TO PUT IT IN TWO. OKAY. SO IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE FIVE OF NINE, UM, BOTH PRO, BOTH TRACKS ARE HIGHLIGHTED. BUT IF YOU SEE THAT DOTTED LINE, THAT'S THE ORIGINAL LOT LINE. WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS MOVE IT OVER SLIGHTLY WHERE YOU SEE THAT NOW BOLD CENTER LINE. SO THEY'RE TAKING IT FROM WHERE YOU SEE THAT DOTTED LINE AS THEIR ORIGINAL LINE AND THEY'RE SHIFTING IT OVER TO WHERE THEIR BOLD LINE IS. THEY OWN BOTH PROPERTIES. UM, NO MA'AM. UM, WE DID RECEIVE PERMISSION AND DEEDS FROM BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS TO, UM, HAVE THAT COMPLETE. YEAH. SO, AND IT MEETS ALL THE, UM, WELL, WHAT I'M TRYING TO, WHAT I'M TRYING ABOUT MY POINT HERE IS I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THIS MOVING THIS LINE OVER? SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO LOTS. YEAH. IT'LL STILL BE TWO LOTS. SO IT'S LIKE THE 75 FOOT, BECAUSE THERE'S, I KNOW WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR, RIGHT? YES, SIR. THEY'RE NOT GONNA ADD ANOTHER DWELLING HERE. NO, NO, NO. THEY'RE NOT ADDING ANOTHER DWELLING. THEY'RE JUST MOVING THAT LINE OVER VERY SLIGHTLY. AND, UM, SO IT'S GONNA REMAIN TWO LOTS. OKAY. YES SIR. BUT I WOULD JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T, WE WERE SPLITTING LOTS FOR THEM TO ADD ANOTHER DWELLING. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. WE, WE GONNA HAVE A 35 FOOT FRONTAGE. RIGHT. WE'RE JUST MOVING IT OVER JUST A LITTLE BIT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR PARENTS? NO. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FAR? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FAR? NO ONE COME TO THE MIC. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST? NO ONE COMES TO THE MIC. WE'LL MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER R 26 DASH ZERO TWO. OKAY. CASE NUMBER R 26 DASH DASH ZERO TWO. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS PASTOR HARVEY BOWDEN. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1211 AND 1225 EIGHTH STREET. JCA PARCEL NUMBER 8 8 1 3 2 AND 8 8 1 3 3. THE REQUEST [00:05:01] TYPE IS AN APPROVAL OF A REPL IN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A REPL REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING. A REPLAY OF ALL OF LOTS EIGHT AND NINE BLOCK 62. CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS, THE NEW TRACK NAME TRACK EIGHT DASH A. ALL OF LOTS. EIGHT AND NINE BLOCK, 62. CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE LOT DIMENSIONS ARE 140 FEET BY 100 FEET TOTALING INTO 14,000 SQUARE FEET. AND THE ZONE IS, THE ZONING IS CURRENTLY MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. ALL THE ABUTTING ZONES NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST ARE ALL ALSO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPLANT IS TO COMBINE FOR A NEW CHURCH BUILDING. AN APPLICATION FOR A REPL WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON OR AROUND DECEMBER 10TH, 2025. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPL IS TO COMBINE LIGHTS FOR A NEW CHURCH BUILDING ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 18TH, 2025 19. NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER, A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PNZ PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY. JANUARY 5TH, 2026. AND THAT'S ALL COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? ANYONE? NOT TO ME. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FAR? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FAR? PLEASE COME TO THE MIC. ANYONE FAR? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST? PLEASE COME TO THE MIC. GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOUR COMMONWEALTH. YES, PLEASE. GIMME ADDRESS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VANESSA HODGE, BRADLEY. BRADLEY HODGE, UH, THE HARRY BRADLEY ESTATE AT THE CORNER OF 1200 EAST NINTH STREET, WHICH IS THE CORNER OF NINTH AND SAVANNAH. UM, UH, I HAD A COUPLE, WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. UM, FIRST OF ALL, YOU SAY 19 PEOPLE WERE NOTIFIED ON THE PICTURE HERE WHEN I COUNT THE PLOTS, PLATS IS PLATS. UM, DO YOU NOT COUNT THE, THE ONES THAT'S PARTIALLY INVOLVED? THAT 200 THAT'S YEAH. WITHIN AREAS. I'M SORRY. NO, YOU'RE FINE. BECAUSE I, I COUNT EITHER 24 OR SO ONE THAT TOUCHED BUTS. SO IF ONE PROPERTY OWNER OWNS THREE LOTS, WE SEND ONE LETTER. OKAY. SO WE NARROW IT DOWN LIKE THAT. I SEE, I SEE. SO THAT'S THE, THE, THE CHILDREN THING. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND I NOTICED THAT ON THE APPLICATION IT SAYS 0.03, TWO ACRES ON THE, THE FIRST ONE HERE WHEN IT GIVES THE DIMENSIONS OF ONE 40 AND 100, UH, BY 100 1400 SQUARE FEET. AND THEN LATER ON, UH, ON THE APPLICATION IT DOES SHOW 0.3, 2 1 6 ACRES. MY QUESTION IS AROUND THE RULES, UH, ON THE SIZING, UH, FOR, UH, UH, A CHURCH BUILDING ACCORDING TO THE, UM, 1 5, 5 0.217 FOR CHURCHES IN PORT ARTHUR SAYING A MINIMUM OF ONE ACRE FOR A CHURCH. AND IT AT A DENSITY OF, UH, IT SAYS HERE 25% COVERAGE. BUT THE QUESTION REALLY IS, UH, IS CENTERED AROUND PARKING. I MEAN, THERE'S TWO RESIDENTIAL AREAS IS VERY TIGHT AND, AND THERE ARE STILL HOUSES THERE AS WELL, BUT, UH, THE PARKING FOR CHURCH BUILDING AND REALLY, UH, THE, UH, UM, THE PER THE USE OF, OF, OF THE, THE AREA. SO THOSE, THAT, THAT'S THE, THE MAIN CONCERN WE HAVE. AND UM, AND IT SAID HERE THAT THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO COMBINE FOR A NEW CHURCH BUILDING. BUT, BUT I DON'T, WE WANT TO KNOW THE ZONING, UH, OR ANY REZONING OR CHANGES, HOW WILL THAT AFFECT ANY ANYBODY ELSE'S TAX RATE? AND, AND SO IT SHOULDN'T, UH, AREA, I MEAN, I'M SORRY. OKAY. I'M HERE. UM, SO IT WON'T BE REZONED REZONED BECAUSE A CHURCH CAN GO IN ANY ZONE BY RIGHT. AND IT IS ALSO LOCATED IN A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE AGAIN, A CHURCH CAN GO IN ANY, UM, DISTRICT BY RIGHT. BUT, UM, I CAN GIVE YOU A CALL AND WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION, BUT BY LAW, A CHURCH CAN GO ANYWHERE. SO NO REZONE OR ANYTHING. SO, SO THE FACT THAT THERE'S AN ALLEY GOING DOWN THE CENTER OF THAT, UH, AND THE AMOUNT OF SPACE, I MEAN THE PICTURE LOOKS REALLY SPACIOUS, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY SHOWING THE ACTUAL, UH, MAPPING OR HOW DO YOU SAY, MARKING [00:10:01] OF THE ACTUAL SPACE. MM-HMM . AND AGAIN, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT PARKING IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS? NO, PARKING WILL BE REQUIRED. SO THEY WILL HAVE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING. SEE RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE REPL PHASE. WHEN YOU'RE DOING A REPL, THEY, BY LAW THEY CAN REDRAW THE LINES THE WAY THEY WOULD LIKE, AS LONG AS IT FITS WITHIN OUR NEW BRAND NEW ZONING ORDINANCE. WE HAVE A NEW ZONING ORDINANCE AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2023. SO AS LONG AS IT FITS THE LAWS PERMITTED BY MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, THEN THEY'RE FINE. BUT WE MEET IN A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING. WE HAVEN'T GOT THERE YET. 'CAUSE WE, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LOT LINES. BUT IN THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, MR. BATON WILL DO ALL THE RESEARCH ON THE CHURCH BY THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, DETERMINE HOW MANY SEATS AND HOW MUCH PARKING YOU NEED TO HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT CHURCH. MM-HMM . YES, MA'AM. I SEE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CAN HAVE, LIKE, FOR THAT SPACE, THEY CAN'T HAVE A MILLION CARS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT HAS TO ACCOMMODATE THE SIZE OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING. WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUILDING PLANS OR ANYTHING AS OF NOW. SO THIS IS THE, THE ACTUAL REPL ITSELF AND THE, THE SOLE FOCUS IS THE, THE DEFINING OF THE LOT LINES. AND RIGHT NOW, BY LAW, WITHIN THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS THIS BLUE, UM, THEY FIT THE CRITERIA TO GO AHEAD AND JUST REMOVE THIS LOT LINE AND THEY MAY DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH IT LATER. WELL THAT'S WHAT, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH IT. SO, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN SOMETHING MAILED OUT, IT'S NOT, THERE'S NO INFORMATION REALLY AND, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THAT AFFECTS OUR PROPERTY. UM, AND THE, THE RESALE OF IT. MM-HMM . AND, UM, AND THAT NATURE. SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YEAH. HOW THIS AFFECTS US. OKAY. WELL OTHER THAN A CHURCH, UM, AND A SCHOOL, THE ONLY THING THEY CAN HAVE IS HOMES HERE. MM-HMM . THAT'S IT. MM-HMM . SO THEY CAN'T COME IN AND PUT A SHOP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT CAN GO IN ANY DISTRICT BY, RIGHT? MM-HMM . LIKE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN'T, OTHER THAN THAT ONLY HOMES COULD GO HERE. MM-HMM . THAT'S IT. MM-HMM . YES MA'AM. MM-HMM . WELL I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. NO, YOU CAN, ARE YOU DONE? YES, I'M FINE. OKAY. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, YOU CAN CALL MY OFFICE. I'LL GIVE YOU MY NUMBER AS WELL. OKAY. SO ARE YOU GONNA VOTE BASED ON TODAY? UH, WE ARE JUST, UH, EXPRESSING CONCERNS. MM-HMM . BUT DO WE, IS THERE GONNA BE A VOTE OR DOES THIS THERE'S GONNA, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS ARE GONNA VOTE ON IT, BUT THEY'RE GONNA VOTE BASED ON THE LINES. NOT EVEN THE CHURCH. IT'S JUST RIGHT NOW IS THE, THE LINES RIGHT NOW. 'CAUSE BY RIGHT. AGAIN, A CHURCH CAN GO IN ANY DISTRICT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? YES, MA'AM. FOR THEM, IS IT FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO ATTEND THE, UH, PLANNING MEETING? HERE YOU GO, MA'AM. THE, UM, PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING MM-HMM . UM, NO MA'AM. BUT, UM, THEY CAN CALL AND WE CAN GIVE THEM AN UPDATE ON HOW IT WENT WITH THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT, THE, THE REVIEW SHEETS. SHE GIVES ME A CALL. I CAN TELL YOU THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING WHENEVER THEY PICK, PICK, PICK THE BUILDING. AND I CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY PARKING SPACES, UM, WILL BE ACCOMMODATED FOR THE BUILDING. 'CAUSE WE DO ALL THEIR RESEARCH. AND, UH, AS FAR AS SOUND , ACTUALLY ONE OTHER, UH, THING, WE, WE HAD A SIMILAR THING WITH ANOTHER CHURCH. WE WERE, UH, ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING IN AND ATTENDING MM-HMM . A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NOISE AND THE SOUND MM-HMM . AND HOW, YOU KNOW, ON SUNDAY MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, THE, IT'S, IT IS VERY LOUD. ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS OR STIPULATIONS THAT WILL BE MADE CONCERNING THAT? UM, WE DO HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE AND THAT WOULD BE POLICE. BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A POLICE POLICE ISSUE. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY GET WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER OF THAT DISTRICT. I'M NOT FOR CERTAIN WHICH DISTRICT THAT IS IN, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MAP, BUT I WOULD SAY GET WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER, YOUR DISTRICT, AND LET THEM KNOW. GIMME OPPORTUNITY. I'LL SAY SO. YEAH. MR. TURN. YES, MR. LORD. HOW Y'ALL DOING? EVERYBODY GOOD. HOW? AT LEAST TO GIVE MY APPEARANCE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UNLIKE SOME OF Y'ALL, I HUSTLE EVERY DAY . SO I ACTUALLY JUST COME OFF ONE, BUT I'M CLA ROY 1220 NINTH STREET. UM, THE PROPERTY THAT THE CHURCH IS GOING ON IS LIKE RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE. UH, LIKE YEAH. ONE, ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES IS RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE. AND SO I HAVE NO QUARRELS ABOUT A CHURCH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE, WE DO NEED IT. I JUST DON'T HAVE THE QUARREL ABOUT WHERE IT'S GOING. UH, UH, IT IS BEHIND MY HOUSE. AND FOR ME, JUST TO KEEP IT REAL, I DON'T WANT A CHURCH THERE. NOW, THE QUESTION SHE SAID I HAVE IS, SHE SAID, [00:15:02] IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER CHURCH OR THE SCHOOL GO, YOU ALL ARE GONNA ZONE THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY DID WE, WHY WAS WE SUMMONS HERE? IF YOU'RE GONNA DO WHAT YOU SAY THE CODE SAYS, REGARDLESS IF I HAVE A CONCERN OR NOT. SO THAT'S MY, THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE, UM, THE PROPERTY TAXES. WHAT WILL IT, WILL IT INCREASE AT, AT ALL? UH, ANOTHER QUESTION IS, AS FAR AS WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING THAT ARE STILL THERE, THAT IT'S NOT HERE TONIGHT. I, I CAN, I CAN ADVOCATE FOR 'EM ALL I WANT, BUT THEY REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE. UH, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT NONE OF THEM WANT A CHURCH BEHIND THEM BECAUSE EVERYBODY THAT'S ON MY SIDE OF THE STREET, WHICH THE CHURCH ONE LOT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND MINE. EVERYBODY ON MAIN STREET, UH, WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR ALL OUR LIVES. WE JUST DON'T WANT A CHURCH THERE. HAVE YOU TALKED TO, UH, PASTOR BOWDEN? UM, I KNOW, I KNOW PASTOR BOWDEN PERSONALLY. I JUST SAY PASTOR BOWDEN AND THE NEW BEGINNINGS, WHATEVER THE NAME OF IT IS GOING TO BE, JUST FIND YOU ANOTHER LOT TO, TO BUILD YOUR CHURCH. THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT. AND I LOVE THE LORD. I, I, I'M, I'M COOL. ME AND HIM COOL. I JUST DON'T THINK HE NEEDS TO BE BEHIND MY HOUSE. I MEAN, HE'S INSIDE OF MY HOUSE. HE'S INSIDE OF ME. AND I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT THAT'S HOW I FEEL. AND THOSE THAT ARE ON MAIN STREET, A FEELING, EVEN IF YOU ALL DO ZONE, THEN THAT GIVES HIM THE RIGHT TO SAY, OKAY, LET ME BILL. NOW I DON'T WANT YOU TO ZONE IT. WELL, IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT A ZONE, THIS IS A MEETING JUST FOR THE LOT LINES. OKAY. WE'RE JUST REPLANTING. I GOTCHA. YOUR CONCERNS NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP AT COUNCIL. IF IT GOES, IF IT GOES TO THAT, YES, SIR. BECAUSE THERE WE WILL BE NO RESULTING. YES, SIR. YES, I UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD. LIKE SAID, UNDERSTOOD. ALRIGHT. WE'RE GOT THE TASK OF IF IT FOLLOWS ALL THE GUIDELINES TO RE FOR THE REPL. YES, SIR. UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD. OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW. OKAY. WELL, I, I DO, I MEAN, Y'ALL'S CONCERNS ARE LEGITIMATE IF YOU HAVE THEM. YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD ONE YOUR COUNCIL PERSON TWO, THE COUNCIL ITSELF. IS THAT DISTRICT ONE? SAY THAT AGAIN. IT'S DISTRICT ONE. I THINK I'M, I THINK IT IS. I THINK IT'S DISTRICT ONE, WHICH WILL BE BAY LEWIS. BAY LEWIS. THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE DISTRICT ONE BAY LEWIS. IT IS, IT IS BAY LEWIS. NOW, MR. WAGNER, UH, UH, TRUSTEE AND MS. UH, QUEEN, I, I KNOW THEM PERSONALLY. MM-HMM . AND SO I'M STANDING, UH, JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT. I MEAN, THE SCHOOL, I'M, I'M IN LOVE WITH THE LORD, BUT I JUST WANT HIM ON, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD THING. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW IT, BUT ON 10TH STREET AND SAVANNAH, THERE IS A CHURCH THAT, UH, SERVICES GO ON EVERY SUNDAY. NOW THEY NOT BEHIND ME EITHER. . IT IS UNFORTUNATE THOUGH, THAT THE LAWS HERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS DOES ALLOW CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS TO BE PLACED ANYWHERE. I GOTCHA. I GUESS, ROY, IF I CAN YES, SIR. ALSO COMMENT. GO AHEAD. FIRST OF ALL, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND SHARING YOUR FEELINGS. UH, OUR ROLE, AND I HAD TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. OUR ROLE AS A COMMISSION THOUGH, WHEN THEY RECOMMEND THESE REPLANTS, IF IT'S LEGAL FOR THEM TO DO THAT, WE ARE REQUIRED TO ACCEPT IT. UM, EVEN IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT THERE, UM, AS LONG AS THE DEVELOPER HAS FOLLOWED ALL OF THE GUIDELINES AND ALL OF THE RULES FOR THE RELET, THEN WE ARE OBLIGATED. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MS. ARIAS, WE ARE OBLIGATED TO, TO VOTE IN FAVOR, BUT AS SOMEONE SAID, MAYBE YOU COULD GO TO ANOTHER ENTITY. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE CITY COUNCIL OR WHAT HAVE YOU, TO SHARE YOUR VIEWS ON THAT. YOU COULD ALWAYS SHARE YOUR VIEWS WITH CITY COUNCIL. JUST A FEW THINGS. UM, I'LL TOUCH UPON ONE. A CHURCH AND A SCHOOL, UNFORTUNATELY, WELL, NOT UNFORTUNATELY. I MEAN, PER YOUR CONCERNS ANYWHERE THEY WANT, IF THEY WANTED TO GO IN THE MIDDLE OF A SHIPYARD, THEY COULD GO THERE. . UM, AND TWO, WHEN IT COMES TO TAXES, THAT IS A COUNTY, UM, ISSUE. WE'RE JUST A LOCAL AUTHORITY. SO, UM, I WOULD DEFINITELY CALL THE COUNTY. AND AS FAR AS THEY REZONE, IT IS ALREADY ZONED ACCORDINGLY. AND AGAIN, IF WE WERE TO JUST, JUST A QUICK LESSON REALLY QUICKLY. IF WE WERE JUST TO PRETEND LIKE THE CHURCH WASN'T INVOLVED AT ALL, OUR FOCUS AS PLANNERS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT FRONTLINE IS THE CORRECT MINIMUM LENGTH AND THE LONG LINE. IF THAT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS [00:20:01] AND EVERYTHING ELSE MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, THEN BY LAW WE ARE REQUIRED TO APPROVE BASED ON THOSE LINES ONLY. YES, SIR. THEY SAY LEAVE YOUR FEELINGS OUT OF IT, , BUT YOU CAN EXPRESS I WOULD, I WOULD, YOU CAN CALL BAILEY IF YOU'D LIKE. I, I WILL, BUT YOU KNOW, I CAN, I CAN CALL MR. BOW. YEAH. YES, PLEASE. ALRIGHT. THANK SIR. WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THOUGH. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA SPEAK AGAIN BECAUSE I, I UNDERSTAND. I AND I, I GO TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY AND, AND DURING THE WEEK, VANESSA HODGE, I'M SORRY, UH, VANESSA BRADLEY HODGE, 1200 EAST NINTH STREET, UM, THE CHURCH, WE WERE ASCENDED ON SECOND AVENUE. IT WAS ALSO HOUSES. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE COME AND PARK, AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LATE, YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EVERYBODY WAS PARKING ON THE STREET BECAUSE THERE WAS NOWHERE TO PARK. AND YOU GOT READY TO LEAVE, YOU COULDN'T LEAVE OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY. YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, GOING IN AND INTERRUPTING A CH CHURCH SERVICE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAR IS THERE. AND THEN THE CHURCH, THEN THEY, THEY FINALLY SAID A RULE THAT PARKING HAD TO BE ACQUIRED. AND WE WERE ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT. SO WE'VE SEEN BOTH SIDES OF IT. AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE ANTICIPATION IS, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW BIG AND, AND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AND HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT US. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU AT THE END OF THIS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. OKAY. THANKS. ANYONE ELSE? WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST ANYONE ELSE? WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST NOBODY ELSE. COMING TO THE MIC. MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER Z 26 DASH ZERO ONE. CASE NUMBER Z 26 DASH ZERO ONE. THE PROPERTY IN OWNER IS JOSE LUIS FIRO. THE PROPERTY LOCATION IS 1101 JEFFERSON DRIVE, JK PARCEL NUMBER 8 6 5 3 4. AND THE REQUEST TYPE IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING LOT. 20 DASH 23 BLOCK TWO. GLENDALE, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE CURRENT IS 0.64 ACRE OF LAND. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST FOR, UM, AN ANTENNA. THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL. THE PROPOSED ZONING IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THE ABUTTING ZONES NORTH, SOUTH, AND EAST ARE COMMERCIAL RETAIL. THE WEST IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN UNMANNED CELLULAR COMMUNICATION SITE, ALSO KNOWN AS A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM. THE BACKGROUND, AN APPLICATION WAS FOUND WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON OR AROUND DECEMBER 2ND, 2025, REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN UNMANNED CELLULAR COMMUNICATION SITE. A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM PAGE. A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS A ZONING AMENDMENT TO ALLOW A DESIGNATED USE AT A DESIGNATED LOCATION AND APPROVAL FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE MORE INTENSE OR TO HAVE A POTENTIALLY GREATER IMPACT THAN A USE PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITHIN THE SAME ZONING IN DISTRICT. ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 18TH, 2025 18. NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER, A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE P AND Z PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY. JANUARY 5TH, 2026. AND THAT'S ALL COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE A QUESTION, MS. ARIAS? MM-HMM . IS THIS PROPERTY LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHEATLEY SCHOOL? IT IS. UM, IT'S AN EVENT CENTER, BUT THEY'RE ONLY USING A PORTION OF THAT LOT. UM, RIGHT BEHIND THE EVENT CENTER. ? YES SIR. MM-HMM . OKAY. IS THIS ONE GOES TALL? UM, IT'S, IT'S TALL AND THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. AND LARRY UM, WENT OVER ALL THE RULES AND EVERYTHING AS FAR AS WHAT CELLULAR TOWERS GO. UM, THEY DID, UM, COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THEY DID NEED A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND THAT, UM, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, UM, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL DID SAY WAS GOOD, BUT IT STILL HAS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD? NO, NO, NO, NO. IT'S IN A COMMERCIAL RETAIL DISTRICT. OKAY. ACROSS THE STREET FROM SCHOOL. YEAH. GO ANYWHERE. YEAH, I JUST SAW IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FAR? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FAR THE MIC? ANYONE TO SPEAK AGAIN? ANYONE TO SPEAK AGAIN? AFTERNOON. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? MY NAME IS YOLANDA MCNEIL. MY HUSBAND'S NAME IS DONALD. WE LIVE ON THE CORNER OF, UH, WE LIVE AT 5 0 0 1 EAST 10TH STREET, UH, IN PORT ARTHUR. AND MY QUESTION IS, AS SHE SAID, HOW CLOSE IS THIS GONNA BE TO THE SCHOOL? AND HAS ANYONE [00:25:01] CHECKED OUT ANY KIND OF HEALTH ISSUES THAT THESE THINGS PENETRATE OR PERPETRATE OR OMIT? THAT THERE'S GONNA BE LITTLE KIDS IN THAT SCHOOL 24, 365 DAYS A YEAR, OR PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SCHOOL YEAR. AND SO HAS ANYONE CHECKED OUT ANYTHING TO SEE IF THESE THINGS ARE GONNA OMIT ANY KIND OF THING THAT'S GONNA CAUSE THESE YOUNG DEVELOPMENTAL KIDS? ANY ISSUES? YOU GUYS SAYING THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE SAY, WE HAVE TO TAKE IT TO OUR COUNCILMAN. SO MAYBE THAT'S WHO I SHOULD HAVE WENT TO IN THE BEGINNING. I DON'T HAVE ANY SMALL KIDS ANYMORE, BUT THOSE ISSUES STILL CAUSE THE ELDERLY SLEEP ISSUES, TUMORS, RADIATION, I MEAN ALL THIS STUFF. I WORKED IN A HOSPITAL FOR 45 YEARS. THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN TELL ME RADIATION IS ANY GOOD IN ANY DOSE. SO THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE VALUE RADIATION. UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT HISTORY, BUT I DO WANNA REMIND YOU THAT, UM, THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND WE, WE TREAT IT AS A ZONE CHANGE, UM, REQUEST. AND IT IS OPINION BASED AND THE COMMISSIONERS CAN MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THEIR OPINION WHEN IT COMES TO THE ZONE CHANGE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. OKAY. AND AGAIN, AS I SAID, I JUST WISH SOMEONE WOULD FOLLOW UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS ARE SAFE. IT IS IN A, I MEAN, YOU'RE SAYING A RESIDENTIAL, IT'S NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THAT PART OF TOWN WHERE I LIVE THERE, IT'S UM, OPPOSITE THE CORNER OF, UM, IS TRAVIS SCHOOL ACROSS THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. OH, YOU'RE ON THAT SIDE OF, OF THE STREET? YES. YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I KNOW IT'S NOT A, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT THOUGH THAT SCHOOL SITS, NO. SO IT'S HERE. THE SCHOOL IS HERE. MM-HMM . THIS IS THE LOCATION AND THE ANTENNAS. YEAH. AND WHERE DID YOU SAY IT WAS GONNA BE? THE ANTENNA? YEAH, RIGHT HERE. BEHIND THE BRISKET ROOM. BEHIND THE BRISKET ROOM? YES. SO THIS IS DEAD ROOM. WELL, IF THE BRISKET ROOM IS ON THE CORNER MM-HMM . TRAVIS' SCHOOL IS RIGHT. IS SITTING RIGHT THERE. AND THIS IS THE BRISKET ROOM. THEN THERE'S WHEATLAND AND YOU GO FURTHER DOWN. I KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I SAID. AND I LIVE, I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE, RIGHT BEHIND THE BRISKET ROOM, ACROSS THE STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE. LEWIS DRIVE SIDE THERE? YES. RIGHT HERE ON THIS SIDE. ON THE CORNER. MM-HMM . THERE'S A, A WHAT? A GROCERY STORE I THINK. MM-HMM . AND THEN THERE WAS THE BRISKET ROOM. THERE'S TRAVIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. MM-HMM . AND TR AND ALSO WHEATLEY EARLY CHILD DEVELOPMENT. MM-HMM . RIGHT THERE. SO I MEAN YOU CAN'T YEAH, IT IS IN A COMMERCIAL RETAIL DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE HERE, THIS PINK. AND WHAT YOU SEE IS GREEN IS THE RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT. SO YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT. YEAH. MM-HMM . IT'S THERE. SO IT, UM, IT'S NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, BUT IT'S NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. IT BUTTS IT. EXACTLY. THAT, THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN. YES. AND THAT WAS MINE TOO. LIKE I SAID, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE SMALL KIDS. THE LOCATION. YES. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN. I KNOW. AND I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN SPRING AND SHE HAS A HUGE TOWER BEHIND HER HOME. AND WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING PROPERTY WITH THAT NEAR YOUR HOME, YOU CAN FORGET IT. YES. NOBODY'S GONNA WANT TO LIVE. AND THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY. YOLANDA MCNEIL, UH, WHEN WE HAVE OUR, OUR INSURANCE RATES ARE GONNA GO UP, ARE THEY GONNA GO UP? I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH ALLSTATE TO SEE BECAUSE WHAT I READ UP ON THEM, YOUR INSURANCE RATES CAN GO UP BECAUSE OF THIS CELL TOWER BEHIND THERE. MY INSURANCE IS ALREADY THROUGH THE ROOF. YOU KNOW, I PAY HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE, I PAY FLOOD INSURANCE AND I PAY WIND STORM. GEEZ, THAT'S A LOT. YEAH. SO A LOT, IF THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA BE INCREASED FOR ME, THEY WILL BE FOR ALSO, I MEAN, I CAN'T SAY EVERYBODY ELSE HAS THOSE, YOU KNOW, HAS MM-HMM . ALL OF THOSE. BUT I HAVE ALL THREE. SO I WAS GONNA CHECK WITH ALLSTATE AND FIND OUT, BECAUSE I ALSO READ THAT THOSE WILL RAISE YOUR INSURANCE RATES. SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S A BIG TOWER AND IF IT'S GONNA BE SITTING RIGHT THERE, THERE'S NO WAY CAN MISS IT BEHIND THE STAIRS. NO, YOU CAN'T HIDE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAAM. ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK AGAINST? ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND A MOTION. AND SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. RISE AT SIX. ALRIGHT. TAKE TOGETHER. AND THEN WE, THIS AREA? YES, SIR. OH NO. OH NO. UNLESS I WOULD NOT. OKAY. OH YEAH, I, I WOULD PREFER THE REFLEX INDIVIDUALLY. YES. OH, OKAY. OR JUST EITHER ONE OUT THAT YOU WANT LOOK AT. RIGHT. THAT MIGHT BE EASIER. ALRIGHT. ON CASE NUMBER R 26 0 1, APPROVAL OF THE COX SUBDIVISION. SINGLE [00:30:01] FAMILY. WHAT'S YOUR, UH, SO MOVED. OBJECTION. I HAVE A MOTION. SECOND FOR APPROVAL. BROWN FOR APPROVAL? YES. FOR APPROVAL? YES. I HAVE A MOTION. SECOND FOR APPROVAL ON CASE NUMBER R 20 FAVOR. AYE. A OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, THE NEXT ONE IS CASE NUMBER R 26 DASH TWO A REPL FOR A CHURCH BUILDING. UH, MRS WELL LET, MAY I MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE? YES SIR. LET ME, LET ME FIRST OF ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THE, UH, PARTICIPANTS FROM THE COMMUNITY IN APPRECIATION. 'CAUSE YOU TOOK YOUR VALUABLE TIME TO COME OUT, EXPRESS YOUR CONCERNS. AND, AND I'LL ALWAYS APPRECIATE IT WHEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME OUT LIKE YOU'VE DONE. I'M ALSO ALWAYS CONCERNED, UH, COMMISSIONERS WHEN THEY HAVE AN ITEM LIKE THESE ITEMS NEXT TO, AND THEN THERE'S NOBODY WHO'S HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO OBVIOUSLY. BUT, UH, JUST, I, I'M JUST, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MY PERSONAL INTEREST AND CONCERN. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. HAVING SAID THAT, I'LL JUST WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO DO IN TERMS OF THE NOMINATION OR RECOMMENDATIONS. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENT. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, BASED UPON THE REQUIREMENTS, WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT IT. THAT WE APPROVE FOR THE CHURCH FOR ME. UM, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THAT IT IS A REPL AND IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO IGNORE A REPL THAT'S GONNA PASS. COUNSEL, SOMEBODY GET MAD ENOUGH, THEY TAKE US TO COURT. I DON'T HAVE MONEY TO GIVE TO THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR AT ALL EVER AGAIN IN MY LIFE. SO I DON'T WANNA VOTE FOR THIS REPL, BUT I DO KNOW WHAT IT STANDS FOR AS FAR AS THE LAW. I DON'T LIKE IT. I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT BEING IN YOUR BACKYARD. AND I WOULD PROBABLY BE UPSET TOO 'CAUSE I LIVED AT A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE ABOUT TO BUILD A WHOLE NEW CHEMICAL FACILITY BEHIND MY HOUSE. OKAY? SO I CAN IMAGINE HOW YOU FEEL. I KNOW HOW THAT FEELS AND YOU HAVEN'T, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT THAT BOTHERS ME. BUT THAT'S THE LAW IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. ALL WE CAN DO IS GET IN TOUCH WITH OUR STATE REPS, STATE SENATORS AND LET 'EM KNOW WHAT WE THINK. YOU DON'T LIKE IT? LET 'EM KNOW. 'CAUSE I HAVE ONE I CALL ON SPEED DIAL AND HE'S THE REPUBLICAN. OKAY. SO THOUGH, IF IT'S THINGS YOU DON'T APPROVE OF WITHIN THE CITY, I SUGGEST YOU CONTACT THE HIGHER OF YOU. 'CAUSE THEY MAKE THE LAW, NOT THE CITY. THEY SET THE LAW. IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONERS? IS ANYBODY SECOND? I DIDN'T HEAR A SECOND. WE, I DIDN'T SECOND IT, BUT I'LL SECOND IT. HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF CASE NUMBER R 26 DASH TWO. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A OPPOSED? NO. THREE YAYS AND ONE NAY. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, CASE NUMBER 26 1 REZONING. SPECIAL USE PERMIT OFFICER FOR AN UNMANNED CHILD. OKAY, AS FAR AS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, I'M GOING AGAINST THIS. UH, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT UH, WE DO NOT ACCEPT THE SPECIAL, UH, USE PERMIT. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND THAT WE DENY THE, UH, CASE NUMBER 26 1 SPECIAL USE PERMIT. ALL FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? I VOTE NO. I VOTE NO FOR DENIAL OR DENIAL. DENIAL. WE, I DON'T WANT IT. I'M VOTING FOR HE'S VOTING FOR DENIAL. I'M VOTING FOR DENIAL. I'M VOTING FOR DENIAL. I'M VOTING. SO IT, IT IS NOT GOING VOTING FOR 1, 4, 3 S AND 1 MILLION. MOTION CARRIES. NO, IT DOESN'T FAILED. NO. YEAH. MOTION CARRIES. OH, THE MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. BECAUSE THE VOTE IS LIKE, NAH, WE AIN'T GOING FOR THIS ONE. YEAH. Y'ALL, Y'ALL MAKING ME THINK TOO. I KNOW. ME TOO. MOTION DENIED. DENIED TO DENY THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, [00:35:02] COURT, HAPPY NEW YEAR. AND , I DO HAVE SOME LOVELY PLANNERS FOR YOU ALL AND I WILL DELIVER THEM, UM, WITH THE NEXT AGENDA. AND WE DO HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 3RD, I BELIEVE THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. WE DO HAVE A MEETING FEBRUARY 3RD. AND I'LL SEND YOU A REMINDER. FEBRUARY. WHAT NOW? THIRD. SO FEBRUARY 2ND. WAIT, IT MAY NOT BE THE THIRD. IT'S THE FIRST MEETING TUESDAY. OKAY. SO IT'LL BE THAT MONDAY. I'M STILL ON 2025 SCHEDULE. OKAY. I JUST, I JUST REMINDED HIM FEBRUARY 2ND. SECOND. AND YOUR SCHEDULES I DID INCLUDE IN THE AGENDAS AND IN YOUR FOLDER. YES. FEBRUARY 2ND. THAT'S WHY I ANSWERED. SHE LEFT AND THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THAT'S IT. MOTION FOR ADJOURN. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. WE ADJOURN. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, WILL WE ADJOURN? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ADJOURN AT 6 0 6. THANK YOU. I DIDN'T WANT TO TELL YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.