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YES.[I. Chairperson’s Opening Remarks]
LIKE TO CALL THE NOVEMBER 17TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.CALL THE ORDER AT 5:30 PM ROLL CALL ALIMA ESCOBIDO.
ROSALYN, QUEEN DWIGHT WAGNER, NORRIS SIMON, LET THE RECORD SHOW.
COMMISSIONER, HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
[IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
LOOK OVER THE MINUTES? YES, I DID.ANY ADDITIONS TO CORRECTIONS? NO.
UH, MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
I'D LIKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
[VI. NEW BUSINESS - PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS (INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION)]
BUSINESSES.MR. LARRY BADO, WILL YOU HELP US ON? OKAY.
UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THIS IS GIOVANNI MEDINA.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF, NORTH OF LA STREET AND EAST OF M AVENUE.
UH, THE JCA NUMBER IS 7 7 1 3 8 AND 7 7 1 3 9.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS ACT BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A MINOR PLAN FOR THE FOLLOWING.
CURRENT LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS PART OF T AND NORR RAILROAD, NO RAILROAD COMPANY.
SURVEY SECTION NUMBER 2 7 6 A DASH 4 1 4.
CITY OF PORT ARTHUR JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS, A TOTAL ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 0.4181 ACRE OF LAND.
CURRENT ZONING IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THAT ZONING.
A BUDDING ZONING IS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST.
LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
FUTURE LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLAID IS TO, UH, UH, DEFINE TWO UNRECORDED LOTS INTO ONE NEW TRACK FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.
AN APPLICATION FOR A REPLANT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON AROUND OCTOBER 17TH, 2025.
NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AS WELL AS PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWS MORE THAN 15 DAYS BEFORE THE P AND Z PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY, NOVEMBER 17TH.
AND THAT'S IT, MS. COMMISSIONER.
LET THE RECORDS SHOW THAT DR. JOHNNY BROWN, UH, ATTENDED A MEETING AT 5:31 PM COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS? IT'S PRETTY MUCH, UH, SIMPLE.
JUST CHANGING A RE FLAG TO ONE LOT FOR A SINGLE HOUSE.
ALRIGHT, WELL THAT CLOSED PUBLIC.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING AT FIVE 30.
AT 5:33 PM AND MOVE ON TO EXECUTIVE HEARING.
EXECUTIVE PORTION, UH, COMMISSIONERS IS THERE.
I'D LIKE ENOUGH TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT.
AND SECOND ON THE FLOOR TO, FOR ACCEPTANCE OF CASE NUMBER P 25 DASH FOUR MINOR REPLAY.
[VII. NEW BUSINESS - NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS]
UH, NO STAFF REPORT OTHER THAN THE NEXT MEETING IS BE, UH, NOVEMBER 1ST, I MEAN DECEMBER 1ST.MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YES, SIR.
UM, LAST MEETING I VOTED WITH THE MAJORITY RIGHT? WITH REGARD TO THE, UM, THE RV PARTY.
AND, AND YOU MADE AN ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO ME.
I JUST NEED MORE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE AFTER I LEFT I WONDERED WHETHER I SHOULD HAVE VOTED AGAINST.
THE REASON I'M ASKING IS I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION.
I THOUGHT THAT WHENEVER EVER ANY OF THESE PROPOSALS ARE BROUGHT BEFORE US, BASED UPON WHAT YOU GUYS TOLD ME, THAT THESE DEVELOPERS HAVE GONE THROUGH EVERYTHING THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT'S LEGAL AND THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BRING IT TO US UNTIL IT IS LEGAL.
AND, UM, IF THIS GENTLEMAN DID EVERYTHING HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO, THEN LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WE VOTE ON, I'M THINKING I SHOULD HAVE SAID YES.
NOW, WHETHER OR NOT HE WOULD'VE BUILT IT, WHETHER OR NOT
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HE, HE WOULD'VE FOLLOWED THE GUIDELINES, THAT'S UP TO HIM.BUT I JUST, I, I GUESS I NEED TO HAVE MORE CLARIFICATION ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, THE CROWDS THAT COME.
AND I'M GONNA GO BACK TO VISTA VILLAGE 'CAUSE THEY BROUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE AND THEY DIDN'T WANT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUILT.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUILT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, SINGLE FAMILY OWNED, I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD LIKE, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT IT.
BUT THAT DEVELOPER HAD FOLLOWED ALL OF THE GUIDELINES.
AND BASED ON THAT, I KNOW I AND OTHERS VOTED YES.
THIS GUY, THIS DEVELOPER WHO WANTS TO BUILD THE RV PARK, DID HE FOLLOW ALL OF THE GUIDELINES? LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE WHO COMES HERE ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR THEIR, THEIR DEVELOPMENT? YES, SIR.
UH, COMMISSIONER, HE FOLLOWED ALL OF THE, THE, THE, THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND WE BRING IT TO YOU NOW.
UH, HE WAS LOOKING FOR A REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY AND, UH, A LOT OF THINGS WE GET ARE, OH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW SOMEONE WAS BEHIND ME.
A LOT OF THE THINGS WE GET ARE PLANTS AND EVERYTHING, SO THAT'S DIFFERENT.
BUT ZONING, YOU LOOK AT IF IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, IF, UH, AND, AND A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER DIFFERENT THINGS, IF IT'S A RIFE FIT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WOULD FIT IN THE SURROUNDING, OTHER SURROUNDING ZONING.
UH, AND IS IT SOMETHING YOU WANT IN YOUR COMMUNITY? AND YOU LOOK AT ALL THOSE THINGS, YOU HAD TWO PEOPLE, I THINK, UH, LAST WHO WAS OPPOSING IT.
AND, UH, WE GOT SOME PHONE CALLS THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CALL OUT AND SAY, I DON'T WANT IT.
THEY DON'T WANNA LEAVE THEIR NAME, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
SO THE COMMISSION LOOKED AT THOSE PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED TO IT AND DECIDED THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THIS IS A, A GOOD FIT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WELL, AGAIN, I PERSONALLY, I'M JUST LOOKING AT CONSISTENCY.
I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AGAIN TO THE MEETING WE HAD IN THAT ROOM BACK THERE.
AND THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NOISE.
THE NOISE SOMEWHERE AROUND, UM, THE, HIS, HIS, YEAH.
NOW, AND WE VOTED YES FOR THAT TOO.
AND THAT WASN'T GOOD FOR HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, BUT THIS, BUT THAT GENTLEMAN, HE, THAT'S NOT HIS FIRST TIME COMING TO THE P UH, TO P AND Z AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL.
HE HAS COME BEFORE THEM MANY, MANY TIMES.
HE MOVED INTO AN AREA THAT HAD NOISE.
THEN WHEN HE GETS INTO THE AREA, HE DECIDED, I WANT THIS NOISE TO GO AWAY.
WELL, YOU CREATED YOUR OWN PROBLEM.
SO, UH, AND YEAH, PEOPLE CAME UP AND I REMEMBER THE MEETING WE HAD AND PEOPLE CAME UP.
BUT YOU, YOU LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE AND YOU LISTEN AND YOU LOOK AT THE FACTS AND, UH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF IT'S A CHANGE THAT YOU FEEL IS NEEDED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND MY LAST EXAMPLE THEN I'M DONE
UM, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT, UH, I THINK WHAT WHAT'S THE LADY'S NAME? WHO'S MS. BONHAM I THINK IS THE PERSON WHO WAS HERE IN THAT MEETING.
OH, THOSE NEIGHBORS DID COUNCILWOMAN? YES.
THE, THOSE NEIGHBORS DID NOT WANT THAT NEW APARTMENT BUILDINGS TO GO UP IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD EITHER.
AND I KNOW I LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE FOR THE YES.
BUT THOSE NEIGHBORS DIDN'T WANT IT.
AND I'M JUST, JUST TRYING TO SEE WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE? WELL, THAT PARTICULAR, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFF OF, UH, JIMMY JOHNSON.
THAT WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT, THAT WAS REALLY NICE.
THAT, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT WELL, IT, IT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
HE WAS ALREADY ZONED FOR THAT.
HE WAS, HE, HE, SO HE, THE WHOLE AREA IS ALREADY ZONED FOR A MULTIFAMILY.
HE WAS, UH, COMING AND HE AND COUNCIL MEMBER LAR WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH FOR A LONG TIME ON IT.
HE BROUGHT A, UH, A PLAN TOGETHER FOR ONE THING.
THEN HE AND COUNCIL MEMBER KEN LAW GOT INTO IT BACK AND FORTH.
HE HAD HIS LAWYERS LISTENING, WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.
SO HE ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD SAY THIS ON THIS THING, HE ACTUALLY CHANGED HIS, HIS HIS, HIS DEVELOPMENT, HIS PLANS, HIS PLANS.
HE HAD A REALLY NICE PLAN, BUT HE ACTUALLY CHANGED IT BECAUSE
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OF, UH, COUNCILMAN MCKINLEY.AND SO HE KIND OF, INSTEAD OF MAKING IT LOOK REALLY LIKE NICE, HE MADE IT LOOK LIKE MOTEL SIX.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S LIKE THE OLD SIXTIES, 1960S, UH, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX WHERE YOU HAVE TO WALK UP THE STAIRS AND THEN YOU GO THROUGH, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT THE PATIO.
WHICH ONE? THE ONE THAT YOU'RE, HE'S ASKING ABOUT.
YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE OFF OF, THAT'S THE ONE WHERE THEY CAME COUNSELING.
UHHUH UHHUH ATTORNEY CAME AND I KNOW, YEAH.
THAT'S THE ONE RIGHT OFF OF IT.
THEY HAVE, THEY LEAVE THEIR LIGHTS ON.
BUT, UH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT.
IT WAS A, THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT, UH, UH, APARTMENT IN THEIR, IN THEIR AREA.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY CAME OUT ABOUT IT.
BUT HE WAS ALREADY ZONED FOR IT.
SO, UH, SEE, THAT'S, GO AHEAD DR. BROWN.
UM, FIRST TO APPLAUD, UH, YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION AS ALWAYS.
YOU'RE ALWAYS ON TOP OF YOUR GAME, OF WHICH I'M VERY PROUD AND THANKFUL.
I LIKE HOW YOU SAID SOMETHING TO THE FACT THAT YOU, WE THINK SOMETHING'S NOT GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY THEN IT'S OUR JUDGMENT TO MAKE, TO MAKE A JUDGMENT.
BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN I'VE HEARD THE LAW HAS BEEN FOLLOWED AND AS THOUGH AS THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
AND I ALWAYS WANNA BELIEVE I HAVE A CHOICE OF HOW TO VOTE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I VOTED ON LAST TIME.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AT ALL.
AS AS OTHERS HAD OBVIOUSLY VOTED AS WELL.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
BUT SEE, AND SEE A PLAT IS DIFFERENT.
YOU CANNOT LIKE THE PLAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO APPROVE A PLAT IF IT'S FILED, SEE THAT, THAT'S WHERE, BUT, BUT A ZONING, YOU SAYING IT DEPENDS ON
THAT'S WHERE THE FINE LINE IS.
THAT GUY WAS ON A ZONING CHAIN.
IT'S A ZONING CHANGE, NOT PLAS PLAN WITHIN JUST A REGULAR PLAT.
BECAUSE A PLAT, YOU'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.
ALL YOU'RE DOING IS CHANGING THE, IF YOU GOT, IF YOU GOT TWO LOTS AND YOU WANNA MAKE IT ONE LOT, YOU REPLANT IT TO AS ONE LOT SO YOU CAN BUILD A HOMEOWNER.
WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT RIGHT THERE IS PRETTY MUCH FOLLOW ALL THE GUIDELINES AND THING.
THAT'S WHERE IT GETS, 'CAUSE WE USED TO FIGHT THIS ALL THE TIME.
PEOPLE COME IN HERE AND THEY'D WANT TO BUILD A, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE ZONING OR ZONE SOMETHING FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND MM-HMM
WE EXPLAINED TO THEM THEY'D WANT TO COME AND BUILD A HOUSE.
AND WE EXPLAINED TO 'EM, LOOK, IF WE DO THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, YOU GO AND MOVE.
IF THEY BUILD A FABRICATING YARD RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO YOUR HOUSE, YOU KNOW THAT THIS PLAN IS, IS ZONED FOR THAT.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
EXCEPT, UH, DON'T BRING SOMETHING TO ME AND TELL ME I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
WELL, I MEAN THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
WELL, Y'ALL HAVE A CHOICE, BUT YEAH, YOU CAN VOTE IT DOWN.
YOU CAN SAY YOU VOTED DOWN, BUT IT'S STILL GONNA BE APPROVED BECAUSE WELL, THAT'S THE NEXT PART, RIGHT,
SO THAT PARTICULAR ONE THAT IS GONNA BE GOING TO, WE'LL BE GOING TO, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A THREE FOURTH VOTE, RIGHT.
AND WHICH PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT.
AND OUR CITY COUNCIL IS NOT, UH, UH, RV PARK.
THEY'RE NOT THAT FRIENDLY WITH THAT.
SO, UH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.
AND THE GENTLEMAN, WE HAD IT, WE, WE GAVE HIM A CHOICE.
I MEAN, WE GO INTO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE PLAN IS ONLY COMMISSION VOTED AGAINST IT.
WE'RE GOING TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
WOULD YOU STILL WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT KNOWING THAT IT'S GOT TO BE A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE? AND HE SAID YES.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, ANOTHER ONE.
AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER RV PARK COMING UP ALSO, UH, BY THE PORT, UH, BY THE, UH, PORT NATURES PORT, PORT NATURE.
NOT PORT NATURES, UH, PORT OF PORT.
I'M NOT FROM HERE, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU GO OVER THE BRIDGE AND YOU TAKE THAT LEFT.
SEE, I'M SAYING NO, YOU GO, UH, GOING TOWARDS BRIDGE CITY.
YOU KNOW WHERE THE FRONT REFINERIES ARE, WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THE RAC, YOU KEEP GOING DOWN THAT ROAD WHERE THEY HAD THAT WRECK A FEW WEEKS AGO AND THAT GIRL GOT KILLED.
THERE WAS A, UH, UH, THE PORT, THE SABINE PASS PORT PEOPLE THERE.
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A RV PARK DOWN THERE.BUT THEY WERE THERE BEFORE THE ZONING AND CHAIN BEFORE, BEFORE OUR RV PARK ZONE ORDINANCE CHANGE.
SO, UH, SO HE'S COMING UP WITH THAT.
AND WE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, UH, A COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY IN THE, UH, SABINE PASS, UH, HALL THAT WE OWN IS THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM
AND THEY'VE GOTTEN THIS INFORMATION SENT TO THEM PRIOR, AND THEY DON'T WANT SOMETHING, OR THEY REALLY WANT SOMETHING, THEY'LL SHOW UP IN DROVE.
WE CANNOT EXCLUDE THE COMMUNITY, BUT ANYTIME, ANYTIME WE HAVE A, WE HAD ONE THAT EVERYBODY CAME OUT AGAINST US, SO WE DECIDED THAT EVERY TIME WE DO A ZONING CHANGE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING.
SO THIS LAST ONE THAT WE DID, WE GAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING.
HE DIDN'T SHOW UP AND NO, I, NO ONE SHOWED UP.
BUT WE TRIED AND WE, SO I ATE ALL THE COOKIES AND
NO, BUT, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER ONE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL LET YOU KNOW, AND THEN IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT THERE, BUT I, ONE OTHER COMMENT, I I I, I TRY TO, UH, BE, UH, LOGICAL, FAIR, AND, UH, COOPERATIVE, UH, IN WHEN THESE QUESTIONS COME FORWARD.
I HAPPEN TO HAVE AN EXPERIENCE WHEN I WAS THE SUPER, ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS FOR THE CENSUS BUREAU, UH, LAST COUNT.
AND SO I HAD TO GO TO SOME OF THESE PLACES AND, UM,
I MEAN, IT JUST WASN'T A GOOD SITUATION FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
SO I'M NOT TALKING SOMETHING I HEARD OR PASSED BY.
I LITERALLY HAD TO GO DOOR TO DOOR TO DEAL WITH THESE PEOPLE.
AND REGRETTABLY, THEY DIDN'T, THEY, THEY DIDN'T REPRESENT THEMSELVES WELL.
WELL, THAT HAPPENS WITH US WHEN WE GET TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO PUT ON YOUR BULLETPROOF SOUL TO GET READY FOR IT.
AND ALL WE CAN DO IS PRESENT FACTS.
BECAUSE I'VE GONE TO A COMMUNITY FOUR ACRES ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COMING, THE NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT THEY'RE BUILDING, AND THE, THE COMMUNITY SHOWED UP.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOWED UP, THE MAYOR SHOWED UP, THE FIRE CHIEF SHOWED UP.
THAT'S WHAT YOU EXPECT FROM A COMMUNITY MEETING TO HAVE EVERYBODY INVOLVED THAT WORK FOR THE CITY WHO MAKES THOSE DECISIONS TO SHOW UP.
AND ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE CITIZENS.
SO WE ARE DOING THAT FOR EVERY ZONE AND CHANGE THAT WE HAVE.
SO, UH, WE JUST TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, AND LET THE MAN, IF HE COMES, LET HIM EXPLAIN HIS PROJECT.
SO I, I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR QUESTIONS.
I HOPE I ANSWERED THEM CORRECTLY FOR YOU.
AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
AND THIS TIME I BROUGHT MY HANDY DANDY
BUT ANYTHING, THAT'S IT FOR A BIT FOR, FOR OUR BUSINESS.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, I CAME BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER AND I OWN PROPERTY ON FREDERICK, AND I JUST SOLD THIS HOME ON THE CORNER OF OLEANDER AND FREDERICK AND I CAME TO SEE WHAT THIS ZONING, YOU KNOW, IN WHAT IT ENTAILS, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE I STILL HAVE A LOT AND MY DAUGHTER HAS A LOT ON FREDERICK THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE SOLD TWO AND THERE'S TWO MORE TO BE SOLD.
OH, I HAVE ASK YOU A QUESTION, MA.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO JUST EXCUSE MYSELF.
ANDREW IS IN, UH, EITHER VE OR PALAMA.
IT'S THE TRACTOR LAND RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF OLENDER AND FREDERICK.
THE TWO STORY HOUSE WAS MINE AND WE SOLD IT TO SOMEBODY.
AND THEN WE, UH, MY DAUGHTER HAD TWO MORE LOCKS NEXT DOOR.
AND THEN SHE HAS ONE AND I HAVE ONE, AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO SELL IT, BUT LAWYER BLACK HAS TO GET PAPERWORK SOMETHING SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET THOSE TWO.
THAT'S THE MAN YOU PROBABLY, YEAH.
THIS IS JUST A PLAID, A MAN JUST MAKING, TAKING TWO LOTS AND MAKING INTO ONE LOT.
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WE ARE NOT DOING A PLA, WE'RE NOT DOING A REZONING.SO WE ONLY SEND NOTICES OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO TO EVERYONE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THEY'LL KNOW SOMETHING'S GOING ON, BUT WE CAN'T REZONE YOUR PROPERTY UNLESS YOU KNOW ABOUT IT.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT US DOING THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT MY DAUGHTER WAS ON THE PHONE WITH ME IN VIRGINIA AND SHE SAY, WELL, IT'S ALMOST FIVE O'CLOCK, YOU NEED TO GET THERE.
SO, AND, AND, AND I'M SORRY, CAN I GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YES.
AND THEN MY DAUGHTER, UH, SHE OWNED THE OTHER LOBBY.
YOU? NO, JUST THE PERSON THAT SHOWED UP TO SPEAK.
AND THAT'S ALL I NEED, BUT THANK YOU.
BUT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH REZONING YOUR PROPERTY OR ANYTHING WITH YOUR PROPERTY.
WE JUST HAD TO SEND OUT NOTICES.
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ADJOURNMENT.
THAT GLARE THEY GOT ON THAT CLOCK.