* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALL RIGHT, [00:00:01] WE ARE READY TO GO. WE HAVE [I. INVOCATION, PLEDGE & ROLL CALL] RECORDING IN PROGRESS. ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO OUR SPECIAL MEETING ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 26TH, 2025 AT 3:00 PM WELL, IT'S 3 0 6 AND WE'RE GETTING STARTED. YOU MAY JOIN US IN THIS MEETING BY TELEPHONIC AND OUR VIDEO CONFERENCE. YOU CAN DIAL IN AT 8 7 7 8 5 3 5 2 4 7, OR BY DIALING 8 8 8 7 8 8 0 0 9 9. YOU CAN, UH, PRESS, UH, PLEASE PRESS THE MEETING ID OF 8 8 1 5 2 2 7 2 4 7 2 AND ENTER THE PASSCODE 5 6 7 0 4 1. IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU, WE INVITE, UM, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICAN WITH DISABILITIES ACT. YOU SHOULD CALL AND REQUEST THAT, UM, BY WAY OF OUR CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. AND YOU SHOULD DO THAT 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE BY CALLING 4 0 9 9 8 3 8 1 1 5. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA ASK EVERYONE TO MUTE YOUR CELL PHONES. WE WILL HAVE OUR INVOCATION, OUR PLEDGE, AND OUR ROLL CALL, AND OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER EVERFI. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GOD FOR GRACING US WITH YOUR PRESENCE TODAY. WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE HERE MOVING IN THIS SPACE. WE ASK THAT YOU WILL PLEASE HUMBLE OUR HEARTS, GOD, OUR TONGUES, AND BLESS US TO DO THE YOUR WILL IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR THE CITIZENS OF PORT ARTHUR. PLEASE FORGIVE US FOR OUR SINS AND LEAD THE PATH. LEAD THE WAY FOR US. GOD, THIS WE HUMBLY ASK IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. SECRETARY ESTABLISH. SORRY. CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU ESTABLISH A QUORUM, PLEASE? MAYOR MOSES. HERE, MAYOR PRO TEM ETT, COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HAMILTON, EVER FIELD PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BECKHAM. COUNCIL MEMBER KEN LONG HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER FRANK, YOU HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, MAYOR. [II. WORKSHOP] THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS OUR WORKSHOP. WE'LL PUT, UM, IT IN THE HANDS OF OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND THEY WILL TAKE IT AWAY. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I HAVE JUST A VERY, VERY BRIEF, IT'S NOT REALLY A POWERPOINT, BUT JUST A QUICK INTRODUCTION AND THAT'S JUST TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUNDS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS THE GENERAL ENTERPRISE AND SPECIAL. WE HAD GONE OVER THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, LAST WORKSHOP ON THE BUDGET I HAVE FOR YOU, THE CAPITAL COSTS MINUS THE WATER AND WATER AND SEWER CAPITAL FUNDS. AND THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE IS THE CAPITAL COST BY FUNDS, SO THAT YOU HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT IS WITHOUT THE WATER IN WASTEWATER. AND MY PRESENTATION IS JUST CONCLUDING THAT SAYS AND TELLS YOU THAT OUR FUNDS ARE IN BALANCE. AND TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE SOURCES OF FUNDS FOR CAPITAL ARE FROM PREVIOUS BONDS, NEW BONDS, THEY'RE FROM GRANTS, THEY'RE FOR TRANSFERS. AND THEY'RE ALSO FROM PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, WHICH I WOULD NAME RESTRICTED PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECTS IN WHICH YOU HAVE ALREADY APPROVED. AND THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AT AT THIS TIME. THE NEXT SECTION, WE THEN WENT AHEAD AND PROVIDED YOU THE DETAILS, WHICH IS THE HANDOUT THAT HAS SOME PRETTY COLORS ON IT, WHICH SAYS AT THE VERY TOP PROPOSED STREETS. SO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE ESTIMATES FOR THE STREETS BY DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. AND THE FINAL HANDOUT ARE ACTUALLY TWO MORE. WE HAVE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AT THE VERY TOP, WHICH LISTS IT OUT BY DEPARTMENT. [00:05:03] AND THEN FINALLY THE LAST ONE, WHICH HAS OUR CAPITAL RESERVE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT AND ALSO OUR LEASED VEHICLES. SO ALL OF THOSE MAKE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM MINUS THE WATER AND WATER AND SEWER. AND THIS GIVES YOU A, HOPEFULLY A BETTER PICTURE AND IDEA OF THESE PLANS. AND THESE WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE 25 26 BUDGET FOR THE PORTIONS THAT YOU ACTUALLY APPROVE. AND THIS BEING PROPOSED ONLY, WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER MONTH OR SO FOR ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AND REQUESTS FROM THE COUNCIL. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OR MY PORTION. THAT CONCLUDES MY PORTION OF INTRODUCING TO YOU THE PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT INCLUDED WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE INCLUDED, THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED WHAT WE CAN AFFORD, AND THAT WE INCLUDE, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO FINISH THE PROJECTS OR AT LEAST GET THESE PROJECTS STARTED OR FINISHED, WHICHEVER WAY THAT IT LANDS. OKAY. I HAVE SEVERAL LIGHTS. COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS. YEAH. CITY MANAGER. ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS HOW ARE WE ON, WE GOT ALL THESE PROJECTS GOING AND THEY NEEDED, AND THE CITIES, THE CITIZENS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE STREETS AND DRAINAGE. MY QUESTION IS, AND THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN, WELL, THE MONEY IS THERE. WHAT ABOUT ARE WE GETTING ENOUGH CONTRACTORS TO SPEED THIS THING UP? CAN WE, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT APPEALING TO CONTRACTORS TO GET 'EM TO BID? THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD THAT SHORTAGE OF CONTRACTORS. YEAH. CONSTABLE COUNCILMAN LEWIS, AS YOU SEEN AND ON, LEMME REMIND YOU. YES. MY WIFE HAD ONE OF THOSE, I DON'T KNOW WHY, LITTLE LOW PROFILE TIRES. SHE HAD BUSTED RIMS, ABOUT A THOUSAND A PIECE. SHE BUSTED AND BUSTED AND THE TIRES AND, AND JUST, WE JUST HAD ONE RECENTLY HERE, WENT DOWN NINTH AVENUE AND BLEW ANOTHER ONE. BUSTED THE RIM TOO IN THE PAST MONTH. SO WE GOT TO GET CONTRACTORS. LET'S GET I KNOW WE GOT IN-HOUSE. YEAH. SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ATTRACT ADDITIONAL CON? SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE, UM, AND THE NUMBER HAVE BEEN INCREASING FOR EVERY BUDGET, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE NUMBER THAT OFF STREETS THAT WE ARE DOING BY BUYBOARD RIGHT NOW ARE INCREASING. UM, EVEN THE, THE, THE, UM, FOR THE NEXT AGENDA THEY'RE ON LATER THIS AFTERNOON, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE FEW STREETS ON THAT AGENDA THAT WE ARE DOING BY BBO. SO WE ARE NOT ONLY DOING IT THROUGH, UM, THE NORMAL CONTRACTUAL PROCESS THAT WE HAVE HAD, WE HAVE GONE OUT THROUGH BBO AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENLISTING CONTRACTORS THROUGH BBO TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE ADDRESS THE DEMAND THAT'S BEING PLACED ON US FOR THE STREETS AS WELL. YOU KNOW, SO AS, AS YOU SAID, WE ARE ADDRESSING IT IN HOUSE AND APART FROM THE CONTRACTORS THAT WE HAVE WORKING WITH THE VERY LARGE PROJECTS, WE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS BY, BY BOARD AS WELL. OKAY. YOU ARE WORKING WITH THE, UM, OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT? THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT. AND THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT IS WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM OUT. OKAY. YES. UH, CO COUNCIL MEMBER HAMILTON. THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO I HAVE A LIST AND MS. LYNN DID ADVISE ME TO PUT IT IN AN EMAIL TO CITY MANAGER SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW SOME OF THESE REQUESTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN BE IN, WELL NOT MAKE SURE THEY CAN BE, IT'S MY REQUEST IF POSSIBLE, FOR THEM TO BE A PART OF OUR, UH, 2026 BUDGET. IS THAT STREETS? NO. WELL, THE REASON I'M, I BROUGHT THIS UP FOR AROUND THE SUPPORTING THE STREETS CONVERSATION IS FOR A QUICK RESPONSE VEHICLE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. IT HAS BEEN, UM, IT'S BEEN DRAMATIC OF THE HEAVY TRUCKS ON THE, THE, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? THE DAMAGE TO OUR STREETS HAS BEEN DRAMATIC BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY TRUCKS. SOME WE CAN'T CONTROL, BUT SOME THINGS WE CAN. AND SO IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO HAVE A QUICK RESPONSE VEHICLE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE FIRE ENGINES TO NOT HAVE TO BE SENT OUT EVERY SINGLE TIME [00:10:01] UNLESS THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY NEEDED AND THAT QUICK RESPONSE VEHICLE WOULD STILL, UM, TRANSPORT THE SAME FIREMEN THAT WOULD HAVE GONE IN THE FIRE ENGINE, BUT THE WHOLE FIRE ENGINE WOULDN'T BE NEEDED. SO I WANT US TO BE PREPARED ON HOW WE CAN PRESERVE WHAT WE HAVE AND NOT DAMAGE THE NEW ROADS THAT WE'RE BUILDING. UM, THE NEXT THING WOULD BE, AGAIN, OUR COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT OR AT LEAST A COMPLIANCE OFFICER, NOT JUST FOR, UM, CONTRACTS, BUT ALSO FOR SAFETY. AND, LET'S SEE, WHAT WAS THE OTHER, THANK GOD YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF THE, UM, WATER DEPARTMENT ISSUE. THE, THE, WHAT'S THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME THAT YOU JUST HIRED? UM, PUBLIC WORKS. SUE SUE PUBLIC WORKS. SUE SUE. UM, PUBLIC SERVICES. PUBLIC SERVICES. PUBLIC SERVICES. I SCRATCHED THAT OFF MY LIST. THANK YOU. THAT'S A PLUS. UM, DEBT COLLECTIONS. I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF FINDING OUT WHO OWES US, WHO WE OWE ALL OF THAT, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE OR COULD IT SPEED UP THE PROCESS IF WE ACTUALLY CONTRACTED WITH A DEBT COLLECTOR? I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO, BUT COULD IT HELP US? WHICH I KNOW WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THEM A SERVICE FEE, SO IT MAY OR MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST COUNCIL MEMBER EVER FIELD. THAT IS WONDERFUL. AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE'VE GONE FORWARD WITH AN RFP FOR A COLLECTION, A THIRD PARTY COLLECTION AGENCY. WE ARE ACTUALLY, UH, UH, DR. BELLA LEBLANC IS ENSURING THAT WE ENCOMPASS NOT JUST THE UTILITIES, BUT THE DIFFERENT AREAS IN AND THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE ANY KIND OF COLLECTIONS OR FEES, AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE PAID ON TIME AND THAT WE HAVE A POLICY TOGETHER IN WHICH THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND GET, GET THOSE MISSING PAYMENTS FROM 90 DAYS OR FURTHER. SO I BELIEVE THAT RFP HAS ALREADY GONE OUT. WE WOULD'VE BROUGHT IT SOONER, BUT THERE WERE SOME REALLY VALID QUESTIONS FROM POTENTIAL VENDORS. AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS STILL ON ITS WAY. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT COMPLETED AT LEAST AND BROUGHT BEFORE YOU THIS, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR YET. THANK YOU. AND WE, WE, MAKING AN ATTEMPT TO THE COURT IS A CRITICAL PART OF THE DEBT COLLECTION. OKAY. UM, PROCESS. AND WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS A LINK, WE DO CONSIDER THE COURT SYSTEM AN OUTSTANDING FEES AND FINES TO THE COURT SYSTEM SO THAT IT FITS IN, INTO THE ENTIRE CITY'S DEBT COLLECTION PLAN THAT WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER. OKAY. SO THAT'S A CRITICAL PART OF IT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN THE, UH, LAST TWO THINGS. ONE IS FOR, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES. I LOOKED AT THE ICMA WEBSITE, THE EDC, TEXAS EDC WEBSITE, THE, UM, TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE WEBSITE, AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE JOB THAT I SAW LISTED, AND THAT WAS FOR THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. MM-HMM . SO IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THESE TOOLS WHEN WE ARE ALREADY MEMBERS OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, I'M ASKING THAT WE HAVE MORE, UM, EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES LISTED ON THESE SITES. OTHER CITIES EVEN HAD, UM, JOB POSTINGS FOR A GARBAGE MEN. A A, UM, I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S CALLED, BUT THE GARBAGE OPERATOR COLLECTOR. THE COLLECTOR, YES, MA'AM. SO EV IT WASN'T ONLY EXECUTIVE POSITIONS THAT WERE LISTED ON THESE SITES. SO I'M ASKING THAT WE USE THOSE RESOURCES PLEASE. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS FOR US TO POSITIVELY ADVERTISE OUR CITY, WE NEED A MARKETING DEPARTMENT, NOT JUST ONE POI. WE HAVE TO TELL OUR STORY OR SOMEBODY ELSE WILL. SURE. I CAN, CAN I RESPOND TO THAT MAYOR? MM-HMM . YES, PLEASE. YES. ONE THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE ARE READY FOR THAT OTHER STAGE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AS A CITY. AND SO ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT I'VE PUT INTO THE BUDGET IS A, UM, DIRECTOR SLASH MANAGER OF MARKETING AND, UM, IT'S MARKETING AND, UM, COMMUNICATIONS. YES, SIR. FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. I DON'T THINK WE TELL OUR STORY REAL WELL. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, AND IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT WE GET SOMEBODY WHO COULD BRING IT ALL TOGETHER IN TERMS OF COUNCIL AGENDAS, WHAT THE PROJECTS AND THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON WITHIN [00:15:01] THE CITY. AND WE SET UP A DEPARTMENT WITH A SOLID PLAN AS TO HOW WE TELL OUR STORY AS A CITY. AND AT THE SAME TIME WE BRAND OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, UM, MOVING AHEAD. SO I HAVE PUT A POSITION IN THE BUDGET TO DO EXACTLY THAT AND, UM, I WILL BE WORKING WITH THE INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COME UP WITH OUR MARKETING STRATEGY AND OUR MARKETING PLAN. WE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, UM, BEGINNING NOVEMBER IN DOING THAT. I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT WE DO THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. AS PART OF IT AS WELL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET OUR MESSAGE ELECTRONICALLY OUT THERE AS WE CONTINUE TO UPGRADE OUR WEBSITE AND, UM, AS WE CONTINUE TO APPEAL TO THE YOUNGER PEOPLE WHO GO TO OUR WEBSITE FOR JOBS AND FOR INFORMATION, OTHER PURPOSES AS WELL. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . THEN THE, THE VERY LAST THING IS THE PROGRAM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT. SO THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, TO FOLLOW THE PLAN ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT WOULD ALLOW, GOD FORBID IT DOES HAPPEN, BUT ONE PERSON ON THE EXECUTIVE TEAM COULD BE OUT FOR TWO WEEKS ON VACATION OR GOD FORBID THEY FELL OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH. AND OUR PROJECTS NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE AND NOT JUST BECAUSE, UM, CITY MANAGER HAS INSTRUCTED, YOU KNOW, GIVEN AN ASSIGNMENT TO HIS ACMS, BUT BECAUSE THERE IS AN ACTUAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT PLAN IN PLACE, IT IS ACTUAL PROGRAM THAT WE CAN USE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THE, UM, FROM START TO FINISH MORE EFFECTIVELY. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO WE HAVE REQUESTED MONEY FOR SOFTWARE IN THIS BUDGET TO ACTUALLY DO, UM, OUR, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. SO, AND WE HAVE MADE SOME REALIGNMENT AS FAR AS STAFF IS CONCERNED. SO WE HAD ONE POSITION THAT WAS, UM, PLACED IN THE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE SINCE SHIFTED THAT POSITION INTO THE ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NOT ONLY KEEP UP WITH THE PROGRESS OF THE PROJECT PRO, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND IT'S NOT ONLY STREETS, BUT IT'S ALL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. AND WE HAVE ALIGNED THAT POSITION IN, WE HAVE PLACED THAT POSITION IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE PROPER REPORTING THAT WE NEED AND THAT INDIVIDUAL CAN CONTINUE TO LEASE AS WE CONTINUE TO INTRODUCE THE SOFTWARE, THE NEW SOFTWARE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BUY ON ALL PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE CITY. SO WE ARE GETTING THERE IN TERMS OF BOTH ALIGNMENT AND REPORTING. YEAH, WE DO, WE DO HAVE THAT INSIDE. ALRIGHT. UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH COUNCILOR MCKEN LAW. HEY, THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, GUYS, UM, WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT IT, LOOKING AT THE DETAIL OUTLINES OVERVIEW. SO AS YOUR PLAN CITY MANAGER IS TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND GO DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT, I THINK THE COUNCIL SUGGESTED THAT TWO BUDGETS GO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO OVERVIEWS LIKE THAT, WE CAN'T REALLY ASK THEM THE ANSWER, THE QUESTIONS MM-HMM . THAT WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR IN YOUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. SO THAT'S YOUR PLAN. THIS JUST, JUST A BASIC OVERVIEW OF YOU ANTICIPATE, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BREAK ROOM AND RESTROOM RECONSTRUCTION, YOU'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER $350,000 AND THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY RENOVATED. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? SO HELP ME OUT BECAUSE NO, I MEAN, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD CONTINUE GOING EACH DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WITH THE QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE TALK, UH, WE, WE TALK TO CITIZENS, WE TALK TO EMPLOYEES AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR A WISHLIST, UH, WHEN WE DO A BUDGET MM-HMM . SO IS THAT THE PLAN? WE STILL GONNA TO GO THAT ROUTE WITH IT? YES. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. AND LET ME, LET ME SHARE THIS WITH YOU. OKAY. WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW, WE ARE DOING THE CAPITAL PART OF IT, UM, FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. OKAY. BUT, UH, WHEN WE GET TO THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS THE NEXT, THE NEXT YES. PLAN. AND WHAT I INTEND TO DO THOUGH, BECAUSE IN SOME OF THOSE, UM, DEPARTMENTS, THE INCREASES IS VERY MINIMAL. YEAH. YOU KNOW, LIKE FIVE OR $10,000 FOR OPERATING EXPENSES AND WE'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THOSE ARE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE DID, COUNCILMAN KLOW, WE ASKED EACH DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE US WITH A STATUS QUO BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR AND TO INDICATE WHATEVER INCREASES THAT THEY ARE, THEY HAVE INDICATED. BUT PAM, YOU COULD EXPAND ON COUNCILMAN KIN LAW'S QUESTION AS IT TO THE BREAK ROOM BECAUSE THOSE THAT WE ARE SUBMITTING TO YOU HERE, UH, THOSE FOR CAPITAL FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST CAPITAL SOLID DRAFT OF $69 MILLION MOVING AHEAD. OKAY. THAT'S [00:20:01] FOR MONEY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR ALL CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE CITY. ALRIGHT. IT'S $69 MILLION, WHICH IS SOLID. YEAH. WELL, HELP ME, HELP ME OUT PAM. AND I KNOW THAT REQUEST IS IN 2026, BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, JUST GETTING THIS TODAY YEAH. AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DIGEST AND ACTUALLY GO DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT. HEY GUYS, WE ARE HERE TO HELP, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE A GOOD STEWARD. ABSOLUTE. ABSOLUTELY. WITH THIS TAXPAYER'S MONEY. UH, I BEFORE YOU, I'M SORRY PAM, LEMME GO AHEAD AND LET YOU ANSWER AND THEN I CAN ASK, UM, JUST PROVIDING CLARIFICATION, UM, THE, UM, ITEM THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT WITH THE BREAK ROOM RESTROOM RECONSTRUCTION MM-HMM . UM, THAT IS SPECIFICALLY TIED TO EQUIPMENT SERVICES. OKAY. WHICH IS THE CITY GARAGE. GOT IT. UM, THE PROJECT THAT WE RECENTLY UNDERTOOK WAS FOR THE OPERATION CENTER. THANK YOU. UM, WHICH THAT PROJECT WILL BE, UM, COMPLETED, ANTICIPATED ACTUALLY THIS MONTH, IF NOT THIS MONTH. IT'LL BE THE FIRST PART OF NEXT MONTH, SEPTEMBER. UM, AND WE WILL BEGIN TRANSITIONING BACK OVER TO THE OPERATION CENTER. BUT THEY HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB, UM, AT RE UM, UM, REMODELING, RENOVATING, YEAH. UM, THAT FACILITY. AND WE WILL DO A, UM, AN OPEN HOUSE, UM, ONCE WE, THANK YOU GET THE FINAL, UM, CONTRACT COMPLETED. YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THAT. UM, JUST TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON, UH, COUNCILMAN EVER FIELDS'S, YOU KNOW, I, I WROTE A COUPLE OF THINGS DOWN HERE. DRAINAGE STREETS ENFORCEMENT DUMPING, UH, COMPLIANCE OFFICER, GRANT OFFICER, UH, THAT WE HAVE IN-HOUSE THAT COULD HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS THAT WE GO OUT AND PAY SOMEONE TO HELP US WRITE THESE GRANTS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LEGAL STAFF, A LAW DEPARTMENT THAT CAN ACTUALLY ASSIST WITH THAT, UH, EMPLOYMENT VACANCIES AND THE TODDLER SYSTEM. NOW, I REALLY WANT YOU GUYS TO BE REALLY HONEST ABOUT THIS SYSTEM THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, IS IT EFFECTIVE? IS IT REALLY EFFECTIVE? AND I GUESS WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT PORTION OF, UH, UH, OF THIS BUDGET, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE GET THE PHONE CALLS STILL TODAY ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH THE, THE TYLER SYSTEM THAT WE ARE USING NOW, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. THIS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT WHEN WE ARE HERE IN BUDGET AND WE ARE COLLECTIVE AS A COUNCIL. BUT I WANT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ASKED JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS SOME CLARITY AND SOME ADVANCED WARNING OF SOME OF THE THINGS I'M GONNA BE ASKING YOU GUYS ABOUT ON THE NEXT, UH, PORTION OF THE BUDGET, UH, UH, HEARING THAT WE HAVE. SO IN, IN, IN ENDING WITH THAT, I SEE THAT, UH, WE ADDED THE $41 MILLION PROJECTED TOTAL COSTS WITH, UH, RECREATION CENTER, LAND ACQUISITION DESIGN ON, THAT'S ON PAGE FOUR ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. NOW THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT PAM? IS THAT OUR, UH, LAND, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY BE THERE? I CAN PROVE, 'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT KIND OF STICKS OUT IN MY MIND WHEN I SEE THOSE MAJOR INCREASE. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE COLLABORATED WITH AN OUTSIDE. UH, SO WHY DO WE ADD IT IF THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S PART OF A FIVE YEAR PLAN? YEAH. UM, IS THE 41 MILLION IS REALLY FOR THE MOST PART A PLACEHOLDER. UM, WE ARE REQUESTING FUNDS ACTUALLY AS PART OF CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, UM, FOR THE, UH, RECREATION CENTER ON NINTH AVENUE. GOT IT. GOT IT. UM, THAT WOULD BE FOR LAND ACQUISITION, A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, COMPREHENSIVE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, AND HOPEFULLY ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, UH, FOR A NEW FACILITY. OKAY. UM, WE ARE PROJECTING ABOUT 1.25 MILLION TO BEGIN. UM, WE WILL NOT KNOW THE TRUE COST FOR THAT FACILITY UNTIL WE COMPLETE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN CONTINUE. RIGHT. SO THE 41 MILLION FOR THE MOST PART IS A PLACEHOLDER. OKAY. THAT IS BASED ON OTHER PROJECTIONS WE RECEIVED. ALRIGHT. FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES WE'VE GONE TO THAT HAVE SIMILAR FACILITIES OF WHAT WE WOULD OPPOSE. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION. HOW CAN YOU GUARANTEE THAT AMOUNT? THANK YOU. WHAT WHAT YOU GOT, MAN? YOU SEE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT HERE, THE TAX AND RECREATION, YOU, YOU HAVE THE, WHAT'S $500,000 PLAN FOR 26? THE CURRENT, THE, THE UPCOMING YEAR, $500,000. IT'S PART OF CAPITAL. IT'S PART CAPITAL. IT'S CAPITAL. YES. IT'S CAPITAL. ALRIGHT. NOW YOU MADE A POINT OF THE STREETS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO SHEETS THAT WE'VE GIVEN TO YOU HERE FOR STREETS, THAT THOSE COLOR SHEETS HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBER OF STREETS THAT WE HAVE GOING MOVING AHEAD. WE HAVE $27 MILLION THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO SPEND IN THIS NEW BUDGET FOR STREETS. YOU KNOW, AS YOU WILL SEE, WE ARE NOT ASKED IN LOOK THESE 2 27 0.079, LOOK, THOSE, THOSE TWO [00:25:01] HERE. GOT IT. LITTLE COLOR. MM-HMM . YOU SEE THAT YOU HAVE IT. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. CAN I, CAN I ASK YOU THIS QUESTION? YEAH. I THINK COUNCILMAN BAY LEWIS IS ONTO SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE HAVE AN APPROVED, UH, ENGINEERING LIST THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED. WHY CAN'T WE DO WHAT WITH STREETS AND HAVE, LISTEN, WE GOT MONEY. WE HAVE MONEY TO FIX STREETS. WE, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM HAVING THE MONEY. IT'S A PROBLEM HAVING THE PEOPLE TO COME AND DO THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE. SO WHAT CAN WE DO DIFFERENT THIS YEAR THAN WE DID LAST YEAR TO IMPROVE FASTER STREETS, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER BAY LEWIS STATED EARLIER. SO, SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE COMPLETING NEXT YEAR, ALL THESE STREETS ARE COMPLETED BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MONEY. AND IN THE COMING YEAR WE WILL BE DESIGNING AN ENGINEERING STREETS FOR THE 2027 BUDGET. SO BECAUSE WE HAVE $27 MILLION THAT WE ARE SITTING ON, THAT WE'VE GOT TO SPEND IN THIS COMING FINANCIAL YEAR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE THE NEW BUDGET THAT YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE. AND THESE ARE THE, THE LIST THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO PUT THEM OUT. WE ARE GOING TO PUT THEM OUT HOWEVER WE CAN THROUGH THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, TO GET THEM DONE. OKAY. SO THESE ARE THE LEASE THAT WE HAVE AND WE HAVE THE COST ATTACHED TO THEM ALREADY. OKAY. SO WE WILL BE WORKING ON THOSE HERE. SO SIMILAR TO WHAT, UH, COUNCILMAN LEWIS ASKED, UM, MANAGER, THE PRO YOU THIS GONNA MOVE FASTER, WE SHOULD HAVE SUITS DONE IN EVERY AREA THAT, THAT YOU COULD HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE CONTRACTORS VETTED. SO LOOKING AT VETTING, LIKE I KNOW YOU GUYS VETTED WHILE I WASN'T ON COUNCIL, BUT LIKE IN UTILITIES, DIDN'T, I KNOW YOU GUYS VOTED FOR A LIST OF, UH, ENGINEERS AND CONTRACTORS THAT WERE ABLE TO GO TO WORK RIGHT AWAY. YES. SO I, I MEAN MY WHOLE THING AS AS, AND I'M IN, YOU KNOW, AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNCIL IS THAT WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THIS THING MOVE FASTER. UM, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER THAT IS WHATEVER FASTER MEANS HIRING MORE CREWS TO GET IT DONE IN-HOUSE, IN TRAINING MORE FOR THOSE SMALLER PROJECTS. AND THEN ARE BETTING MORE ENGINEERS, UM, FOR STREETS. I KNOW WE JUST, UM, DID SEVENTH STREET AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THEY STILL HAVE, I RODE BY AND I THOUGHT OKAY, WE, WHEN I FIRST CAME MAYOR, THE FIRST WEEK WE VOTED ON DUFF DRIVE AND ALL OF STADIUM DISTRICT TWO, WHICH IS JUST SEVENTH STREET IS JUST OBLITERATE. IT'S JUST TORE UP. BUT NO WORK HAS BEGUN. I DON'T SEE ONE TRUCK EVERY DAY. I'M PASSING, I'M LOOKING FOR A TRUCK AND I, I JUST STILL HAVEN'T SEEN IT. SO THE DESIGN WORK IS DONE. THE, IT IS BEEN, IT'S BEEN BID, IT'S BEEN AWARDED. IT'S LIKE WHAT'S NEXT? SO, UH, UM, ANTICIPATION OF OF OF THEM GETTING STARTED. JUST WE, IT'S GOT TO MOVE FASTER. I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, BUT WE GOT MONEY. WE OUGHT TO HIRE PEOPLE. WE GOT, WE ARE HIRING, YOU KNOW, IT IS GOTTA BE DONE. SO I AGREE. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE VET THEM FASTER, WHAT THAT PROCESS IS, HOW WE MAKE IT HAPPEN, BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT FASTER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE, THE CHASING AND PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT WITH, WE ARE GOING TO SEE HOW WE BUNDLE THOSE STREETS AS WELL AS WE GIVE THEM OUT TO, UM, THE, THE, UM, CONSTRUCTION FIRMS TO THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS. SO LET'S SAY IF THERE ARE TWO OR THREE STATES IN A PARTICULAR DISTRICT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY, WE WILL BUNDLE THOSE AND BID IT OUT, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT IF A CONTRACTOR GETS, HE GETS FREE FOUR STREETS AT A TIME. YOU KNOW, SO HE'LL BE THERE FOR THE NEXT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS WORKING ON THOSE STREETS TO GET THEM DONE. YEAH. SO AT LEAST THE PEOPLE, THE, THE RESIDENTS WILL SEE CONSISTENTLY. WE ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOING STREETS THAT'S IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA SEE. YES. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO SEE. THAT'S RIGHT MARY. BUT NOT WE ARE GONNA BE, WE, WE, WE GOT MONEY AND WE ARE GONNA BE EATING UP, I MEAN THE WHOLE CITY. AND WE WANNA PUT A A PICTURE OF OF NOT A PICTURE, BUT WE WANNA PUT A REALITY THAT WE HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND STREETS ARE BEING, UH, DONE. ABSOLUTELY. THAT THEY ARE BEING DONE IN EVERY AREA OF THE CITY AND NOT JUST CERTAIN AREAS, BUT WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO ALL AREAS. ALL, ALL DISTRICTS. YES, SIR. ALL DISTRICTS. UM, I'M SORRY, I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO WITH LIGHTS HERE. , I JUST GOT CARRIED AWAY AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, MAYOR, YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN, UH, LET ME COUNCILMAN MCKINLEY, YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON SO GO AHEAD. UH, MAYOR, YOU'RE RIGHT. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, YOU WERE ON POINT WITH IT. IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE MONEY MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CONTRACTORS WANT MONEY, WE WANT STREETS DONE. SO AS A MUTUAL AGREEMENT. AND IF, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T FIND A WAY TO GET THIS DONE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? WE GOT POTHOLE CREWS, YOU KNOW, UH, COUNCILMAN LEWIS WIFE CAR AS PRIME EXAMPLE. THOSE ARE ARE THE TYPE OF PHONE CALLS WE GET ALL THE TIME. AND THEN WHEN THEY REPORT THESE THINGS, OH, WELL THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN REALLY DO ABOUT IT UNTIL WE GET THESE STREETS DONE. BUT HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME MOVEMENT, MORE MOVEMENT, MORE MOVEMENT MORE WE HAVE MOVEMENT GOING. YES, YES. I'M NOT SAYING THAT SIDNEY, BUT MORE MOVEMENT. MORE, THANK YOU. GREATER MOMENTUM. WE, AND WE REALIZE THIS IS A BUDGET MEETING, NOT [00:30:01] A STREETS MEETING, BUT, BUT IT IS JUST ONE OF THE HOT TOPICS. IT'S OF THE WHOLE, UM, OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. I SEE THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IS HERE FOR EQUIPMENT SERVICES EVERY, UM, DEPARTMENT LISTED HERE. WE GET THAT. AND, AND ANOTHER THING THAT I'M GONNA SAY TOO IS THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS STUFF HERE BEFORE TODAY. YEAH. BEFORE TODAY. I'M, I'M JUST HAVE TO TELL SOMEBODY, UM, I NEED AN EMAIL DELIVERED. I DON'T WANNA LOOK AT IT IN THIS MEETING. I AGREE. I THINK THAT THAT IS JUST NOT, UM, I WANT SEE IT AND REVIEW IT BEFORE I STEP FOOT IN HERE. ABSOLUTELY. SO PLEASE GET IT TO US BEFORE THE NEXT, I THINK WE SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, AND IT STILL DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL TODAY. WE CAME IN THE SAME THING. THAT IS JUST NOT GOOD BUSINESS. OKAY. OKAY. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HAMILTON. I'M SORRY. WAIT, I CAN WAIT. COUNCIL MEMBER FRANK HAD HIS LIGHT ON. I CAN'T YEAH. YOU WANNA GO AHEAD? NO, I THINK OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER FRANK. ALRIGHT. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON TO EVERYONE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO ASK WAS AS WELL, BECAUSE I WANTED TO, UH, WEIGH IN ON THE, THE, UH, COMMENTS THAT WERE BEING MADE BY GETTING STREETS DONE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THAT IN THE MOST EXPEDITED WAY THAT WE CAN, UM, TO BE SURE. I REMEMBER ONE, THERE WAS ONE MEETING THAT OUR FORMER CITY ENGINEER, JOHN CANELLA, CAME BEFORE US. AND HE HAD ENCOUNTERED A PROBLEM AND A DIFFICULTY, UM, BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO LUMP PROJECTS TOGETHER, UM, TO GET, TO GET IT, TO GET THEM TO GET THE STREETS DONE. UM, BECAUSE A STREET MAY HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO ANOTHER STREET, BUT IT WASN'T ON THE LIST. AND SO HE WAS, AND BECAUSE HE HAD THAT STREET TORN UP AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, IT WOULD'VE EXPEDITED THE PROCE. YOU REMEMBER? YES, YES. DO YOU REMEMBER I DO THAT CONVERSATION? YES. AND SO WE HAVE TO, AS THE COUNCIL, GIVE THEM THE GREEN LIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AND NOT BE SO, UM, SO STAUNCH. YEAH. IN SAYING THAT WE DID, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GETTING ALL THEIR STREETS DONE OR THEY'RE GETTING ALL THOSE STREETS DONE WHEN THE PROCESS WOULD LEND ITSELF TO GETTING STREETS DONE ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF MM-HMM . THE SPECTRUM OF OUR CITY. MM-HMM . SO WHATEVER IT TAKES, AS THE MAYOR HAS SAID, AS COUNCILMAN KIM LAW AND OTHERS, COUNCILMAN LEWIS AND ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, WANTING TO GET THESE STREETS FIXED, DONE. THE OTHER THING IS, IS AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS, UM, AT THIS, UH, UH, ALL OF THIS LAYOUT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO ADD ANOTHER CATEGORY, UH, MS. LYNN THAT SHOWS US, UM, WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS AN INCREASE OR A DECREASE BY HIGHLIGHTING IT, UM, AS YOU THROUGHOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE PUTTING THE INCREASE IN RED, UH, OR, OR DOING SOMETHING TO LET US KNOW YOU GOT THE, UH, PROJECTED THROUGHS AND THEN THE REQUEST, IF THE REQUEST GOES UP, CAN YOU ASTERISK IT OR PUT IT IN A WAY THAT WE CAN AUTOMATICALLY SEE THAT MAKES SENSE THAT IT'S AN INCREASE AND WE CAN GO DIRECTLY TO IT AS WE ARE PUR VIEWING THIS? WE COULD TRY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE ISSUE THAT I WOULD HAVE, AND I, I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS IT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A FLOORING THAT IS DONE. IT, IT GOT DONE AS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE IT AGAIN. WE ARE HAVING RENOVATIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE COMPLETED A AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE IT AGAIN. SO SOME OF THESE AREN'T GOING TO BE REPEATS. THEY MAY BE NEW REQUEST, THAT'S FINE. THEY'LL JUST BE CONTINUATION. THERE MAY BE SOME THAT ARE CONTINUATION, BUT THERE'S OTHERS THAT ARE MAYBE NEW REQUESTS OR ONE NEST A ONE TIME REQUEST. SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET GUIDANCE ON, ON THE BEST WAY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT FOR YOU IN HERE. THAT PART IS, AND MAYBE IT WAS A PART OF A PLAN THAT WAS DONE. AND SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE ON THE CAPITAL PIECE HOW I CAN DO THAT IF IT'S NOT A CONTINUING REQUEST OR IF THE REQUEST STOP BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED FLOORING ANYMORE FOR THE NEXT SO AND SO YEARS. SO YOU'RE NEVER GONNA SEE THAT AGAIN GOING FORWARD. THOSE AREN'T THE ONES THAT, THOSE AREN'T THE ONES THAT I'M, I'M INTERESTED IN AND I DON'T THINK THAT COUNCIL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN. I'M LOOKING AT THE DEPARTMENTS AS THEY'RE COMING TO US AND ASKING US FOR EITHER MORE MONEY OR LESS MONEY IN THE BUDGETS THAT ARE GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING. THERE MAY BE INCREASES IN THE WATER DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THE CHEMICALS HAVE GONE UP. BUT WE'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT INCREASE IS GOING TO BE AND BE AND, AND MARKET SO THAT WE CAN, SO THAT WE CAN SEE IT. THAT WAS A GOOD CATCH BY COUNCILMAN KEN LAW AND GREAT EXPLANATION BY, UM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UH, PAM ABOUT THAT BREAK ROOM, THAT $350. BUT IF THAT WAS ASTERISK THERE, WE COULD HAVE, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT THAT, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW THAT OR SEE THAT WE COULD HAVE ASKED THAT QUESTION. SO I GUESS THAT'S ALL. I'M, I'M SAYING SO IN THE BUDGET COMING FORTH, UM, YES. ABOUT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. IF WE COULD HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGE. I KNOW THE MANAGER SAID THAT THERE ARE MINIMAL CHANGES IN SOME OF THEM, BUT WHATEVER THOSE CHANGES ARE, IF YOU COULD HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES THAT WOULD SHOW US, UM, AS WHATEVER THOSE [00:35:01] CHANGES ARE, INCREASE, DECREASE, HIGHLIGHT THEM AND LET US MAKE THEM VISIBLE TO US SO WE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. ESPECIALLY IN THE GENERAL FUND. YEAH. ESPECIALLY IN THE GENERAL FUND, RIGHT? YES. WE'LL GET THERE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. COMING FORWARD, FORWARD. I THINK YOU CAN, THERE'S A WAY TO HIGHLIGHT IN QUICKBOOKS. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL USING WHAT PROGRAM Y'ALL USE SOMETHING HIGH TECH. GO AHEAD. . SO COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS. YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, YOU, CAN YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE, THE FONT SIZE ? I DON'T THINK YOU CAN CHANGE IT IN I HAVE A PROGRAM. IT'S IN THE OKAY. NOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT FOR YOU. YEAH. YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT . OKAY. I AGREE. IT MAY AFFECT YOU, IT MAY AFFECT YOUR RAISE. NOT THIS YEAR, BUT NEXT YEAR. COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS. HOLD ON. JUST A MY CITY SECRETARY COUNCIL MEMBER. I DON'T, YEAH, I DON'T SEE HIS HAND. I WAS IT IS ON MUTE. I DIDN'T AND YOU HAVE TO HIT THAT. RAISE YOUR HAND. YOU'RE ON MUTE. OKAY. YES. OKAY. I WILL COME AS SOON AS COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS FINISHED. YEAH, I WILL LET HIM, UH, SPEAK. IF Y'ALL COULD TEXT ME TOO. IF HE COULD TEXT ME, THAT'D BE GREAT TOO. OKAY, THANK YOU. YOU BACK TO ME NOW? YES I AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. GO AHEAD. OKAY. LOOK, CITY MANAGER, THE COUNTY CREWS ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP US. WE NEED TO, I THINK ON FRIDAY, IT MAY BE ONE DAY A WEEK, THEY'LL DEDICATE THEIR CREWS TO WHATEVER PROJECT THAT WE GOT THAT NEED TO BE DONE. I'VE ALREADY MET WITH THEM A YEAR AGO AND, AND THEY AGREE COUNCILMAN SEGAL, HE AGREES TO THIS AND I GOT HIS SUPERVISOR THEY AGREED TO, BUT THEY NEED TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME JUST WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO. OKAY. DON'T FORGET THAT. YES. YEAH. YOU'RE, YOU ARE CORRECT. UM, AND I THINK THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE ON FRIDAYS AT THAT TIME. THINGS MAY SHIFTED, BUT THEY ARE AVAILABLE. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT, OKAY. AND ANOTHER THING, ANOTHER THING I NEED FOR YOU, AND I'M GONNA LET YOU TALK, OKAY? I NEED TO KNOW THAT STREET AND SINE PASS, SABINE PASS, UH, WHAT WE CALL IT, UH, CHICKEN CROSSING GOING DOWN TOWARD EIGHT TENTHS OF A MILE. YOU ALL HAVE YOU ALL COMPETING FOR A A A A FUNDING. OKAY. A GRANT. A GRANT. IT'S CALLED, UH, A PLANNING GRANT. OKAY. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT ONCE WE FIX THAT, THAT ROAD THERE AND THE COUNTY SYNAGOGUE, THEM SAY WHEN YOU GET THE MONEY, IF YOU ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET THE MONEY, SAYS COMPETITIVE, THEY WANT TO BUILD THE ROAD, THEY WANNA BUILD IT. IF THEY BUILD IT, THEY GONNA BUILD IT TO STANDARDS. SO IN THE FUTURE, IF A HURRICANE DESTROYED, IT WILL QUALIFY, BE REPLACED ON THE FMA FEMA. YEAH. OKAY. SO I'VE ALREADY HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM. OKAY. SO, OKAY. OKAY. BUT WE GOT A NATURALLY FORMED BEACH DOWN THERE. IT IS OVER EIGHT LA I LOOKED AT IN 2015. THAT BEACH IS 60 FEET WIDE, SANDY, AND IT WAS OVER 1800 FEET. IT'S, IT HAS INCREASED. WE, ONCE WE FIX THAT, IT'S GOING TO BE NATURAL. UH, UM, UH, THEY, THERE'S PEOPLE, BIRD WATCHERS GOES BACK THERE. UH, I'LL BET YOU 15, 20 YEARS THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A RESORT. OKAY? IT'S GOING, IT'S GONNA BE A PLUS. SALES, TAXES AND ALL THESE THINGS. MOTEL HOTEL TAXES IS GOING TO INCREASE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. BUT IT'S WHAT WE DO TODAY. THE MEAL YOU EAT TODAY IS GOING TO BENEFIT YOU TOMORROW. WHAT WE DO TODAY IS GOING TO BENEFIT US TO THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW, IT GOT, SOME PEOPLE WON'T PLANT A TREE BECAUSE THEY WON'T GET A CHANCE TO SIT ON IT. UH, YOU KNOW, IT DON'T BENEFIT THEM. BUT WE NEED TO DO THINGS NOW FOR THE FUTURE KIDS AND GRANDKIDS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. OKAY. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT BEACH RIGHT NOW FOR ME, BUT I NEED TO GET, WE NEED TO GET IT IN PLACE FOR THE FUTURE. OKAY. AND FUTURE REVENUES. ALRIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ETT. OKAY. CAN WE UNMUTE HIM, PLEASE? HE'S, HE'S MUTED. HE'S UNMUTE. OKAY. HE NEEDS TO UNMUTE ON HIS END. YES. UNMUTE ON YOUR, YEAH, ON YOUR HERE. THE, WE CAN'T HEAR. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER JUE. YOU HAVE TO HIT THE UNMUTE. HE, MAYBE HE HADN'T PAID HIS BILL ON THAT END. WE HAVE IT OFF. IS IS HE UNMUTED IN OUR CITY SYSTEM? YES, HE IS. OKAY. OKAY. ASK TO UNMUTE. [00:40:04] I CANNOT, I CAN'T HEAR. WE CAN'T HEAR HIM. TURN YOUR MIC. TURN YOUR, WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THAT MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BECKHAM ALSO TEXTED ME AND SHE SAID THAT SHE'S HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME SPEAKING RIGHT NOW, BUT SHE DOES HAVE QUESTIONS AND SHE'S GOING TO SAY THEM FOR THE NEXT WORKSHOP. OKAY. SHE ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE SOUND SYSTEM ON ZOOM SOUNDS REALLY MUFFLED. OKAY, THANKS. NO, I ASK YOU SEE ON THE COMPUTER OR IPAD WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, ETTE AND THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HEAR, WE CAN'T HEAR HIM. COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, HAMILTON, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, IT'S 3 47. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. CITY MANAGER. WOULD IT BE, UM, POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO GIVE A SHORT EXPLANATION OF HOW LIKE A, A QUICK REMINDER FOR THE PUBLIC OF HOW THESE SPECIFIC STREETS IN THIS PROPOSED, UM, LIST WERE PROVIDED? IT IS NOT BECAUSE, OH, MY COUSIN LIVES ON THIS STREET AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU KNOW, WAS PUSHING FOR THAT SPECIFIC STREET, BUT IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS REVIEWED BY AN ENGINEERING TEAM, UM, THAT LOOKED AT THE UNDERGROUND WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, KNEW WHAT WE COULD DO WHEN WE COULD DO IT AND HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST. CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE A JUST A SHORT SNIPPET EXPLANATION FOR THE PUBLIC? YEAH. UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, UM, DR. HANEY AND HIS TEAM MET WITH THE VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN THE LIST WAS BEING PRESENTED AS A LIST, AS A PRIORITY LIST THAT CAME FROM THE VARIOUS DISTRICTS. AND SO WHAT, WHAT THEY DID WAS MEET WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND DO THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT THOSE WERE LISTS THAT WERE AS, AS PART OF THE PRIORITY PRESENTED FOR REHABILITATION OR RECONSTRUCTION. AND SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, THOSE, THOSE STREETS WERE SELECTED AND THEY WENT OUT TO THE, UM, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DUE DILIGENCE WAS DONE IN COMING UP WITH THE ESTIMATES THAT IS REQUIRED THAT YOU SEE HERE, UM, FOR THE PREPARATION OF THOSE STREETS. SO THOSE STREETS WERE NOT STREETS THAT WAS JUST, UM, EVOLVED OUT OF IN HERE. WE HAD INPUT FROM THE COUNCIL AS WELL. AND ALSO STAFF WENT OUT THERE AND CHECKED OUT, DID THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS REQUIRED AND WORKED IN COLLABORATION WITH THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN TERMS OF WATER AND WASTEWATER ARE UNDERNEATH THOSE STREETS. OKAY. SO IF THE, IF ATTENTION HAS TO BE PAID OR REPAIRS HAS TO BE DONE TO THE UNDERGONE INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT IS ALSO FACTORED IN, IN THE REPAIRS OF THOSE STREETS BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT LIKE TO UNDERTAKE THE RESURFACING OR REHABILITATION OF ANYONE'S STREET AND NOT RE AND THERE IS A NEED TO REPAIR THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE SURFACE, WE CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS AND CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IN THE SUBSURFACE AS WELL. YES SIR. THANK YOU. SO THAT SAVES MONEY MM-HMM . OVER THE LONG PERIOD OF TIME RIGHT. BY ADDRESSING BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. AND, AND IT SHOWS THAT WE ARE WORKING, BOTH DEPARTMENTS ARE WORKING TO ADDRESS THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE IN THE, WITH THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER DE SAID AS GET OUT, COME BACK. OH, OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. YOU KNOW, THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS FOR TECHNOLOGY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE TOO. MAKING SURE THAT OUR TECHNOLOGY, UM, IN CHAMBERS IS EFFICIENT. YES. WE WANNA MAKE SURE ACTUALLY TECHNOLOGY PERSONNEL WOULD BE GOOD AT THIS POINT. AMEN. I'M SORRY. TECHNOLOGY PERSONNEL. THEY DON'T HAVE A, NOT ME, I'M SORRY. THE, THE DRAFT BUDGET IN ITS ENTIRETY WILL GO OUT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND THAT'S FOR THE PUBLIC ON WEDNESDAY. MM-HMM . UM, IT'S STILL A SOLID DRAFT. UM, BUT WE WILL STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE WORKSHOPS ON THAT SOLID DRAFT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOT PRESENTED [00:45:01] THE GENERAL PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL FUND PART OF IT TO YOU IN THE FORM OF A WORKSHOP MM-HMM . BUT WE, ON WEDNESDAY, AS IS MANDATED BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WE WILL POST THE ENTIRE BUDGET ON SITE. OKAY. WHAT WE HAVE COVERED IN TERMS OF THE SPECIAL FUNDS MM-HMM . AND THE CAPITAL, YOU KNOW, WE WILL POST EVERYTHING ON, ON SITE SO THAT THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS CAN HAVE A LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT. YES SIR. AS WE CONTINUE TO WORKSHOP THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT. YES SIR. WELL, THANK YOU FOR, I GUESS WE ARE BREAKING IT UP IN SECTIONS. IT WORKS THAT WE HAVE PARTS HERE AND THEN PARTS GOING FORWARD AND NOT THE WHOLE ENTIRE TRYING TO WORK THE WHOLE DOCUMENT AT ONE TIME. THIS IS GREAT. I THINK IT'S A BETTER OPPORTUNITY, MAYOR AS WE LIST IT OUT BY PROJECTS. YOU CAN SEE THIS TIME WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. WE HAVE LUMPED IT INTO JUST, UM, UM, FIGURES. WE HAVE GIVEN IT TO YOU AS BLOCK FIGURES, BUT WE HAVE LISTED IT OUT AS PROJECTS RIGHT NOW. YEAH. SO YOU ACTUALLY SEE WHAT WILL GO INTO THE FINAL PROJECT DOCUMENT. WE HAVE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE AT THOSE STREETS. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO WHEN WE COME BACK AGAIN AS WE TAKE THE ITEM FOR APPROVAL IN THE NEXT FINANCIAL YEAR, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO BACK IN THE BUDGET BOOK AND SEE THIS IS THE STREET THAT WE ARE REFERRING TO. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, MS. COUNCIL MEMBER DOUCETTE READY TO TALK NOW? WE READY? CAN WE UNMUTE ON YOUR SIDE? MAYOR, Y'ALL NOT SURE THURMOND'S NOT OPERATING THAT YOU ALWAYS TRY TO CUT HIM OFF. . COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS MAYOR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? OH, SURE. COUNCIL MEMBER FRANK, UM, ON THE, ON THE PLEASURE ISLAND SUMMARY ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. ARE WE NOT, IS IT, I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO FIX A PARKING LOT ON THE, UM, IS THAT ALREADY BEEN DONE? AND THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT SHOWING IT'S COMPLETED. IT'S COMPLETED. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT IT IS NO, NO LONGER NEED TO SHOW UP AGAIN. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, WE WE DID THE PARKING LOT. WE DID THE LIGHTING OF IT. YES. OKAY. YES. SO, SO WE ARE DONE. CAN I, UM, I'M GONNA ASK, UH, COUNCILOR BECKHAM, CAN YOU TEST YOUR MIC AND SEE IF WE CAN TALK TO YOU? UM, PLEASE. COUNCILOR BECKHAM, CAN YOU, UH, UNMUTE YOUR MIC AND SEE IF WE CAN TALK TO YOU? YES, CAN YOU? GREAT. I BARELY HAVE A VOICE. CAN YOU HEAR? THAT'S OKAY. WE CAN HEAR YOU. THAT'S ALL WE WANTED TO DO. MAKE SURE IT WORKED. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, GO AHEAD. ALRIGHT, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME NOW? BACK IS BACK PLEASE. HUH? YES. LATEST COMPUTER. OKAY. CAN I, I MUTE YOUR COMPUTER. OKAY. OH WAIT, WE CAN HEAR HIM ON COMPUTER. DO THAT ONE MORE TIME IF IT GOES BACK. OKAY. WHATEVER BUTTON YOU CAN YOU WHAT ABOUT NOW WE CAN HEAR YOUR PHONE ON, CUT YOUR PHONE OFF. I DON'T. OKAY. TRY, TRY IT ONE MORE TIME. MR. DOUCETTE HIT THAT MO MUTE BUTTON ON YOUR SYSTEM. OKAY. I DUNNO WHY I HEARD HIM. OKAY. OKAY. PUT HIM BACK ON. GO AHEAD. ALRIGHT. PUT HIM BACK ON. YEAH. OKAY. CALL. NO, WE DON'T HAVE A CALL IN. WE DON'T HAVE A CALL IN. OH, HE CAN CALL IN. WE CAN CALL IN THE NUMBER. HE CAN CALL IN ON THE NUMBER. WE WHAT Y'ALL WANNA DO. Y'ALL GO AHEAD. THAT'S FINE. GO AHEAD RIGHT NOW. Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME NOW? HEAR ME NOW ? YES. SO I CAN SPEAK? YES SIR. PLEASE DO. OKAY THEN WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE STREETS. OH, LEMME, I NEED TO TELL YOU THIS. OKAY. THIS AIN'T WORKING. OKAY. IT IS WORKING SIR, WE, WE [00:50:01] CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. IT IS. YES SIR. ALRIGHT. 'CAUSE I JUST STEP OUT BUT I DON'T NEED A PICTURE. I CAN SPEAK THE STREETS. I'VE LOOKED AT THE STREETS AND I LISTENED TO ALL THE COMMENTS. THE COMMENTS ARE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FOR THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. OKAY. UM, THIS LIST THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED HAVE BEEN A LIST THAT I'VE PROBABLY LOOKED AT THESE STREETS SINCE THE TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR THE TWO YEARS. I'VE ASKED CONTINUOUSLY, WHEN AM I GONNA BE ABLE TO SELECT STREETS. I HAVE NOT SELECTED THESE STREETS IN TWO YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. AND TODAY I SEE THE LIST OF STREETS, WHICH WAS THE STREETS I SAW WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL. WE HAVE CONSTANTLY SPENT MONEY COMING FROM THE STREET FUNDS. ONE OF MY MAJOR COMPLAINTS HAVE CONSTANTLY BEEN THAT WE'RE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR MONEY PER DISTRICT. WE ARE SPENDING MONEY OUT OF THE TOTAL. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF STREETS AND PROJECTS COME BEFORE COUNCIL THAT WE USING STREETS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS FOR, BUT THEY WASN'T LISTED. THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IS SUPPOSED TO TELL US HOW MUCH WE GONNA DO AND WHAT WE GONNA DO THIS YEAR. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S BROUGHT OVER, YOU JUST BRING IT OVER. YOU KNOW, THIS WAY OF GIVING US INFORMATION IS, UH, IS NOT ONE THAT YOU CAN DECIPHER AND UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY WE GONNA DO. WE TALKING ABOUT DOING ALL OF THESE STREETS IN ONE YEAR. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO PROBABLY A THIRD OF THESE NUMBER OF STREETS IN TWO YEARS. AND WE TALK ABOUT CONTRACTORS, UH, BY BOARD. WE, THIS, THIS PROGRAM WAS APPROVED WHERE WE HAD THREE CONTRACTORS WORKING IN THE CITY DURING THE CONTRACT PORTION OF THE STREETS IN WHICH THEY WERE IN DIFFERENT PORTION OF THE, THE CITY. AND WE HAD THE CITY CREWS ROTATING AMONG DIS DISTRICTS DURING THE IN-HOUSE, BUT FOR SOME REASON WE CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE MONEY. AND WHEN I ASKED ABOUT THE MONEY, I GET THE SAME ANSWER. WELL, WE DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR IT. WE WASN'T KEEPING TRACK. WELL, IF WE WASN'T KEEPING TRACK, WE ARE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR MONEY WE ARE SPENDING AND THAT'S AN ISSUE. BUT I RELUCTANTLY AGREED WE'LL WAIT TILL WE GET TO THIS POINT. AND AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO HAVE IT OUTLINED AND STRAIGHT. SO WHAT I GET NOW TO LOOK AT IS FOR A PHYSICAL YEAR, 25, 26, WE'RE SPENDING 9 MILLION, NINE AND A HALF MILLION. YOU COULD SAY IN DISTRICT ONE, 4.8 MILLION IN DISTRICT TWO, 7.5 MILLION IN DISTRICT THREE AND 5 MILLION IN DISTRICT FOUR. OKAY? PERCENTAGE OF STREETS, DISTRICT FOUR HAS ALWAYS HAD THE LARGER NUMBER OF STREETS. ALL THE STREETS ON THESE LISTS SUPPOSED TO BE ASPHALTS STREETS, ASPHALT STREETS, MOST OF THEM OPEN DITCHES. NOT ALL OF 'EM, BUT MOST OF 'EM. THAT'S WHAT WE GOT THESE, THIS MONEY FOR. BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T STICK WITH WHAT WE STARTED IS THE REASON WE HAVE SO MANY STREETS ARE STILL IN SUCH HORRIBLE CONDITION. AND RIGHT NOW, I, I DON'T SEE HOW WE GOT THIS BREAKDOWN, THE FINES. I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT FOR TWO YEARS TO GET THAT STRAIGHT. COUNCILMAN KINLAW TALKS ABOUT UH, GETTING CONTRACTORS. THE CITY MANAGER SAID WE GOING TO BUY BOARD. WELL, IF COUNCIL TAKES A LOOK AT WHAT IT HAS BEEN TO THE CITY TO CONSTRUCT AND RECONSTRUCT THE STREET OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT BY BOARD IS GIVING US THIS PRICE. AND WHEN THEY GIVE IT, THEY'RE DEALING WITH, UH, WATER LINES AND STUFF. WE SAID WE WILL FIX WATER LINES OR SEW LINES THAT CROSS UNDERNEATH THE STREET THAT HAD BEEN SELECTED TO REPAIR, [00:55:02] NOT TO DO WATER LINES AND STEWARD LINES WHEN WE DO STREETS. AND THIS STREET THAT WE HAVE ON THE, UH, AGENDA FOR TODAY WILL BE A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. SO I WON'T CONTINUE TO DO THAT. I THINK YOU GET A CLEARER PICTURE. UH, WHEN WE GET TO THAT, UH, WE, WE TOUCH UP ON EMPLOYEES CONTRACTS. WE JUMPED ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH THE BUDGET. BUT IT GOES BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMAN KENARD SAYS. WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING THIS BUDGET AND IT BEING PRESENTED TO US DEPARTMENTS BY DEPARTMENTS SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE QUESTIONS. ALL OF US CAN ASK QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO EACH DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAD IDENTIFY IF THAT WAS DONE THE WAY WE HAD PREVIOUSLY DONE, THEN EACH COUNCIL MEMBER CAN DETECT AN INCREASE OR A DECREASE IN FUNDS. I WOULD SAY ORDINANCE REQUIRE US TO USE TWO PREVIOUS YEARS. TWO PREVIOUS YEARS HELPS US BECAUSE IF FOR THIS YEAR WE HAD A SPECIFIC PROJECT IN THE DEPARTMENT, THEN THEY REQUIRE MORE MONEY. SO NEXT YEAR WHEN WE GET READY TO BUDGET THEM, WE COULD LOOK AT WHAT THEY'D DONE THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND WHAT THEY DID MINUS THE PROJECT. SO WE'LL HAVE A GOOD THOUGH, BUT JUST GOING OFF OF THE LAST YEAR, THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS. THEY, UM, THE DIFFERENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. I'M GLAD THAT I'VE HEARD SOMEONE SAID WE'RE GOING TO GET A MORE DETAILED BECAUSE WE SHOULD. WE JUST APPROVED 18 POINT $18 MILLION CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION. WE HAD FOUR AREAS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT PLACING THE MONEY AND FUNDING FOR THOSE FOUR AREAS. I'VE ONLY SEEN A BREAKDOWN WHERE ONLY TWO AREAS IT'S GONNA BE USED. THOSE TWO AREAS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN STREET STORAGE AND WATERLINE. WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT AND WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT DURING THE PROJECT PROCESS BECAUSE OUR NEEDS SHOULD BE BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE CITY. AND THAT IS STREETS, GARBAGE, TRASH WATERLINE, STORAGE LINES, THIS RENOVATIONS, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS I SEE IN THESE, UH, BUDGET THAT WE WANT TO DO. WE PUTTING THAT AHEAD OF OUR NEEDS, OUR VOTE FOR A BUDGET THAT'S GOING TO ADDRESS OUR NEEDS STREETS, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE GET WORK DONE AND BY BOY IS NOT LOOKING AT DOING THE WAY WE DID IT. WE USED JUST PACKAGED THIS STUFF. WE GOT PEOPLE WE PAY, THEY NEED TO DO THE JOB. AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY DON'T, BUT WE HIRE TOO MANY PEOPLE FOR CONTRACTORS. I HEAR PEOPLE, WE NEED THIS PERSON, THAT PERSON, THIS PERSON, THAT PERSON. NO, WE NEED TO DO THESE PRIORITIES AND GET THAT DONE. SO SINCE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO JUST GO ON EVERYTHING, I'LL DO IT AS WE GET TO IT, BUT IT'S GOT A LOT TO BE DESIRED. I HOPE THE PRESENTATION IN THE FUTURE IS GONNA TAKE US FROM DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY PERSONNEL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE ANY MORE LIGHTS. COUNCILMAN KINLAW YOUR LIGHTS. UH, COUNCILMAN FRANK. YOU LIKE OKAY, WE ARE READY TO I GUESS END OUR WORKSHOPS. WE CAN START OUR NEXT MEETING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT THIS, UM, WORKSHOP? COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN DOUCETTE MENTIONED ABOUT THE $18 MILLION CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. MM-HMM . I DO HAVE THE, HE'S CORRECT. WE DID PROVIDE A BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN, UM, IN VERY LARGE FORM TO THE COUNCIL FOR AREAS. OKAY. I HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN IN FORMS OF PROJECTS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO I WILL PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH THIS. OH SURE. YES. OKAY. WE'LL GET THERE AS IT'S ALLOCATED TO EVERY, UM, EVERY DEPARTMENT. OKAY. OKAY. THE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE. AND, AND JUST FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, SO GENERAL FUND IS COMING UP, WHICH WILL BE OUR NEXT WORKSHOP, SEPTEMBER 9TH, AND WE'LL HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS YES. AND THE, THE THINGS GOING ON. SO WHAT YOU GUYS DID, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THIS YEAR IS BROKE OUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE COULD SEE THAT FIRST. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN GENERAL FUND, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE IT ALL AT ONE TIME. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS, IT PROVIDES MORE TRANSPARENCY [01:00:01] AND CLARITY OKAY. AS TO WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE WE ARE MOVING TO. OKAY. YOU KNOW, AND IT, IT PROVIDES YOU WITH AN IDEA BASED ON WHAT IS BEING SAID, THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE CONTINUE TO REQUEST MORE FUNDING FOR, FOR FOR OTHER PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS, IT PROVIDES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE FUNDS. OKAY. THE $18 MILLION, WE CANNOT USE IT FOR UTILITIES. OKAY. SO IF YOU COULD GIVE US THAT BREAKDOWN OF THE UTILITY, UM, WE'LL GET THAT TODAY. YES. SO, OKAY. YES. AND THEN IF WE'LL GET THE GENERAL FUND BEFORE SEPTEMBER, NOT ON UTILITY FUND. YES. AND NOT THE DAY BEFORE I'M TALKING. NO. NO. OKAY. PLEASE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, UHHUH. ALRIGHT, BECAUSE WE HAVE A SPECIAL WORKSHOP THAT IS BEING SET UP JUST FOR THE UTILITY FUND. OKAY. JUST FOR THE UTILITY FUND. SO IT'S BROKEN DOWN, YOU KNOW, IN DETAIL AS TO WHERE WE GOING WITH THIS IN DETAIL. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO GET A MOTION TO CLOSE OUR WORKSHOP. SO MOVE. I NEED A SECOND. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR. A AYES HAVE IT. OUR MEETING, UM, OUR BOOK, UH, WORKSHOP MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.