* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. IT'S ON RECORDING. [00:00:01] OKAY, WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. I'D LIKE TO CALL [I. Chairperson’s Opening Remarks] THE MEETING THE CALL TO ORDER OF THE MEETING OF THE FOUND AND ZONE COMMISSION IN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR FOR NOVEMBER THE 18TH, 2024. ROLL CALL. ROSLYN QUEEN PRESENT DWAYNE WEGMAN PRESENT. LAURA STEINMAN PRESENT. MR. RECORD SHOW WE HAVE A QUORUM [IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF MINUTES. SO MOVED. I SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND APPROVAL OF SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF MINUTES AS PRESENTED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. UNFINISHED BUSINESS. WE HAVE NONE. [VI. NEW BUSINESS - PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS (INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION)] NEW BUSINESS MS. ING? YES SIR. CASE NUMBER R 24 DASH 27. SHOULD I WAIT FOR DR. BROWN? DR. BROWN? OKAY. NEXT TO MR. RECORD. SHOW THAT DR. JOHNNY BROWN IS GOING THE MEETING AT 5 32. HE'S A BUSY MAN. IT'LL BE TIME FOR US TO LEAVE . THAT'S A GOOD THING. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. CASE NUMBER R 24 DASH 27. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SUNSHINE STORES MANAGEMENT, SURVEYOR AND ENGINEER IS SOUTH TECH SURVEYORS. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF NINTH AVENUE AND NORTHWEST OF REGIONAL DRIVE. JCAD PARCEL NUMBER 7 3 6 46 AND J PARCEL NUMBER 7 4 9 6 7. THE REQUEST TYPE IS AN APPROVAL OF A REPL IN PORT ARTHUR LAND COMPANY SUBDIVISION. THE PLANNING IS ZONING. A COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A REPL REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING. A PLT OF PART OF LOT EIGHT BLOCK 13 RANGE. I PORT ARTHUR LAND COMPANY SUBDIVISION, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE NEW TRACK NAME SUNSHINE OUT LOT PA PART OF LOT EIGHT, BLOCK 13 RANGE. I PORT ARTHUR LAND COMPANY SUBDIVISION JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE LOT DIMENSIONS ARE 100 FEET BY 155 FEET TOTALING INTO 15,500 SQUARE FEET. THE TOTAL ACREAGE IS 0.4867 ACRES OF LAND. THE CURRENT ZONING IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TWO. THERE IS NO PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE. THE BUDDING ZONES ARE ALL PD TWO AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPL IS TO COMBINE TWO TRACKS OF A REMAINING OUTLET IN THE NINTH AVENUE SHOPPING CENTER INTO ONE TRACK FOR A STRIP OUTLET. AN APPLICATION FOR A REPL WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON OCTOBER 18TH, 2024. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPLAY IS TO COMBINE TWO TRACKS OF A REMAINING OUT LOT IN THE NINTH AVENUE SHOPPING CENTER INTO ONE TRACK FOR SHOPPING, STRIP OUT FOR A SHOPPING STRIP OUTLET ON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 1ST, 2024 FIVE NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PNZ PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY. NOVEMBER 18TH, 2024. AND THAT IS ALL COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. YES SIR. COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR I HAVE ONE. YES SIR. MY IGNORANCE ONE OUT LOT. THAT'S OKAY. I HAD TO PULL OUT THE BLACK LAW DICTIONARY TO GET THE DEFINITION MYSELF. BUT UM, AN OUT LOT IS ACTUALLY LIKE A LOT INSIDE OF ANOTHER LOT THAT YOU'RE GONNA USE FOR LIKE, UM, RETAIL SERVICES OR SO IT'S REALLY A SH A SHOPPING STRIP INSIDE OF THE PARKING LOT OF ANOTHER SHOPPING STRIP THAT OKAY, I GOT RIGHT. SO IT'S BY THAT DI BY DYLANS WHERE DYLANS IS LOCATED IN THAT SHOPPING STRIP. IT'S A PARCEL OF LAND THAT SITS WITH NOTHING ON IT THAT THEY'RE PLATING. IT'S THE LAND IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A PARKING LOT SO IT MAKES IT AN OUT LOT. IT'S LIKE DYLAN BEING A PARKING LOT OF THE OTHER 50 THAT THERE A BIG PARKING LOT. YOU HAVE LIKE A RIGHT. BUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS DYLAN'S IS IN A SHOPPING STRIP. SO I THINK WHAT MAKES IT AN OUT OUTLINE IS THE SHOPPING STRIP INSIDE OF THE PARKING LOT OF A SHOPPING STRIP. I DIDN'T EVEN THINK THERE WAS ANY GRASS LEFT AROUND THERE. YEAH, I DIDN'T THINK SO EITHER UNTIL I WENT OUT AND TOOK PICTURES. I WAS LIKE, OH THIS IS A NICE PIECE OF LAND ON TOP OF ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND. SO , YOU KNOW WHAT THE PURPOSE IS. WHAT WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS THEY PLANNED TO HAVE INSIDE. ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT'LL BE UM, A SHOPPING STRIP. SO I'M PRETTY SURE THE SPACES WILL BE FELD NOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THERE AND PARTICULARLY I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT IS A SHOPPING STRIP THEY CAN'T GET TO DI I AGREE. . ANYBODY [00:05:01] HAVE A QUESTION? ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION PUBLIC HEARING. SO MO MOTION SECOND HEARING 5:37 PM GOING SESSION. WE HAVE ONE RE KNOW WHERE ON NINTH AVENUE. DO YOU MIND SPEAKING UP FOR ME MR. WAGNER? I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT IT FOR ME A LITTLE LOUDER? I'M SORRY. SPEAK UP. IT'S OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT ALA OF CASE NUMBER R 24 20. YES SIR. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL ON CASE NUMBER R 24 27. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED MOTION? [VII. NEW BUSINESS - NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS] YES SIR. SO WE DO HAVE A MEETING, A SPECIAL MEETING. I DID REACH OUT TO YOU ALL AND I DID RECEIVE YOUR RESPONSE. DR. QUEEN, YOU WON'T BE HERE, CORRECT? NO MA'AM. DR. BROWN, YOU WON'T BE HERE. OKAY, SO I HAVE TO GET WITH ESCOBIDO, I RECEIVED THREE YAYS, SO SHE MUST BE THE THIRD. YAY. BUT I'LL CONFIRM WITH HER. UM, SO DECEMBER 9TH WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. UM, IF WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND THE PLEASURE ISLAND, UM, ZONE CHANGE WILL BE ON THAT MEETING AGENDA. WE HAVE LOOKED OVER THE DATA A MILLION TIMES. EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT AND WE ARE READY TO PUSH FORWARD AND BRING IT TO YOU ALL. AND THEN OF COURSE GETTING ON THE AGENDA FOR CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THE CHANGE BEFORE THE NEW YEAR. SO YES SIR. IS THERE A, I MEAN IS THERE A URGENCY FOR GETTING IT DONE BEFORE JANUARY? UM, JUST CURIOUS. WELL, OURS, PAM DID WANT IT DONE BEFORE THE NEW YEAR. UM, AND I WOULD SAY IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT SINCE AUGUST. SO, UM, SHE JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE. IT, IT'S PRETTY MUCH OF AN URGENCY BECAUSE UH, A YEAR AGO PEOPLE REACHED OUT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BUILD A HOME ON THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY COULDN'T BUILD IT. AND SO, AND, AND WE'VE HAD I THINK TWO REQUESTS FOR IT. SO IT'S BEEN A YEAR THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING ON TRYING TO GET THIS UH, UH, A CHANGE SO THEY CAN START BUILDING THEIR HOME. SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, DEPENDING ON ES YEAH, IF ESCOBIDO WON'T MAKE IT, THEN WE WOULD'VE TO PUSH IT OUT TO THE FIRST OF THE YEAR OR MM-HMM. MEETING NEXT WEEK? MM-HMM? ? YEAH. THE NEXT WEEK, TWO MEETINGS NEXT MONTH. WELL, THE SPECIAL MEETING IS BECAUSE OF THE ZONE CHANGE, BUT IF WE HAVE TO MOVE IT THEN WE, YEAH, WE STILL HAVE UH, TWO ITEMS. WE HAVE THIS AND AFL. YEAH, WE JUST ADDED THIS MEETING TO MAKE SURE WE MET ALL THE DEADLINES FOR FLEDGE DRIVE. SO WHAT WAS THE DATE OF THE REGULAR MEETING? UM, WAS IT THE SECOND 16TH? THE THIRD 16TH? THE THIRD WHEN WE MEET, I GET MY CALENDAR MEETING ON THE NINTH AND A REGULAR MEETING ON THE 16TH. SO IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE SECOND, BUT WE MOVED IT TO THE NINTH. SO IF WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE SECOND, THEN THERE IS ANOTHER REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THE 16TH. I'LL BE BACK BY THEN, RIGHT? YES SIR. SO I'LL TOUCH BASES WITH MS. ESCOBIDO, WITH COMMISSIONER ESCOBIDO BECAUSE, UM, AS FAR AS SCHEDULING, IF SHE'S NOT UNABLE TO ATTEND, THEN WE HAVE TO BACKTRACK SOME THINGS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL'S AGENDA. SO, MM-HMM. , ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE, THAT'S ALL FOR ME. MOTION FOR AUR. SO MOVED. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND. FOR ALL FAVOR. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.