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IN PROGRESS.THANK YOU GUYS, UH, FOR ATTENDING THIS TOURS
[1. Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance.]
MEETING.UH, NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE DOWNTOWN TOURS, NUMBER ONE.
WE HELD A MEETING IN PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 29TH, 2024, AT 2:00 PM AT THE PORT ARTHUR CITY HALL FIFTH FLOOR.
UH, COUNCIL CHAMBERS 4 4 4 FOURTH STREET, PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS 7 7 6 4 0.
THIS MEETING WILL ALSO BE HELD BY TELEPHONIC AND VIDEO CONFERENCE.
IN ADDITION TO ALLOW PERSONS IN ATTENDANCE, A QUORUM OF THET BOARD WILL BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON THE FIFTH FLOOR, UH, CITY HALL 4 4 4 FOURTH STREET, PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS.
THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING IN PERSON OR BY DIALING ONE OF THE FOLLOWING TOLL FREE NUMBERS AND ENTERING THE MEETING ID NUMBER, WHICH IS 8 8 1 5 6 5 1 2 9 5 8, AND THE PASS CODE OF 1 3 2 6 5 2.
THIS MEETING IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO DISCUSS ANY ADOPT AS SUCH, ORDERS RESOLUTION MOTIONS TO TAKE A DIRECT INDIRECT ACTIONS THAT MEET NECESSARY CONVENIENCE OR DESIRE WITH RESPECT TO THE FOLLOWING MATTERS.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL START, UH, THE AGENDA.
WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE.
I'M GONNA ASK, UH, MAYOR BARTEE, IF HE WOULD SEE, SAY THE INVOCATION, AND THEN WE WOULD ESTABLISH THE QUORUM ALONG WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALICIA.
WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND WITH ME? WOULD YOU BOW WITH ME PLEASE? AND WORD OF PRAYER.
FATHER GOD IS IN THE NAME OF JESUS, THAT WE APPROACH YOU A THRONE OF GRACE AND MERCY.
WE ASK, DEAR GOD, THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THIS BOARD ACCORDING TO THE WILL AND THE DESIRE THAT YOU HAVE.
GIVE US ALL OF THE STRENGTH THAT WE NEED, FATHER GOD, TO DO THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE US TO DO.
WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE, AND WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, EVEN IN OUR FUTURES.
THESE THINGS WE ASK IN THE NAME OF JESUS, FOR HIS SAKE, WE PRAY.
TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY, THANK YOU MAYOR BARTEE FOR THE INVITATION.
BEFORE WE START, UM, THE, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY AGAIN TO THE, HER VERY FIRST TURS, UH, MEETING.
UH, THIS IS SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE, BUT IF IT'S ANYTHING YOU'D, YOU'D LIKE TO SAY AT THIS TIME, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO, UH, SAY IT AT THIS TIME.
IT'S AN HONOR, UH, TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN.
AND IT'S CERTAINLY, UH, A GREAT HONOR TO ALSO MEET THE JUDGE.
ALRIGHT, WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF US? ROXANNE
UH, ANYTHING ELSE? I'M ON TRACK.
UH, AND WITH THAT WE'RE GONNA APPROVE
[3. Approval of Minutes from the previous Downtown Tax Reinvestment Zone TIRZ #1 Board Meeting held on Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 2:00 p.m.]
THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS DOWNTOWN TAX ANCHORING ZONE.TURF NUMBER ONE BOARD MEETING HELD ON THURSDAY, JUNE 20TH, 2024.
YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM FIRST.
CITY OF, UH, CITY, UH, ATTORNEY.
WOULD YOU ESTABLISH A QUORUM, PLEASE? I'M GONNA DO IT FOR THIS TIME.
THOMAS KINLAW, COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR CHAIRMAN.
COUNCIL MEMBER CITY OF PORT ARTHUR.
JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT? TWO.
COMMISSIONER JEFFERSON COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN.
COMMISSIONER SABINE NATURE'S NAVIGATION DISTRICT.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE NUMBER THREE, APPROVE OF THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS DOWNTOWN TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE.
TURS NUMBER ONE BOARD MEETING HELD ON THURSDAY, JUNE 20TH, 2024 AT 2:00 PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES? SO MOVED.
SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS TURS NUMBER ONE BOARD MEETING HELD ON THURSDAY, JUNE 20TH, 2024.
ANY QUESTIONS? AT THIS TIME? IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL NOW CALL FOR A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[4. Discussion regarding the Downtown Tax Reinvestment Zone TIRZ #1 Board Appointment/Re-Appointment of the Chairman Position.]
WE HAVE NUMBER FOUR.DISCUSSION WE REGARDING DOWNTOWN TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE, TURF NUMBER ONE, BOARD, APPOINTEES, REAPPOINTMENT OF THE CHAIR POSITION, WHAT WE GOT.
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THANK YOU, MR. RIGHT.I'LL GIVE YOU SOME TIME TO GLANCE OVER IT AND THEN YOU CAN LOOK UP WHEN YOU'RE READY TO DISCUSS.
WHAT BROTHER? OKAY, TOR, LET'S SHOOT FOR IT.
SO, AS YOU KNOW, UM, THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE REQUIRES A BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO OVERSEE THE MANAGEMENT OF THE TURS.
THE BOARD SHOULD CONSIST OF AT LEAST FIVE MEMBERS, NO MORE THAN 15 MEMBERS, INCLUDING ANY MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE TAXING ENTITY, UM, ALLOWING AT LEAST ONE APPOINTMENT TO BE MADE PER TAXING ENTITY.
UM, THE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ALSO APPOINT ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN THE EVENT THAT THE TAXING ENTITY DOES NOT APPOINT A MEMBER OR THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SEATS OPEN.
AS WE KNOW, WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL SEATS OPEN, SO THAT WILL BE UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPOINT ADDITIONAL MEMBERS IF NEED BE.
UM, NOW COMING TO THE SEATS THAT WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE FAILED, SO FOLLOWING THE DATE OF THE ZONE WAS INITIALLY CREATED, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL ANNUALLY NOMINATE AND APPOINT A MEMBER TO SERVE AS THE CHAIRMAN AS OF THE ONE YEAR BEGINNING ON JANUARY 1ST OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE OUR COUNCILMAN, UM, THOMAS KINLAW, AND AS WE KNOW, WE DID NOT APPOINT ONE AS OF JANUARY 1ST.
SO THE COUN CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO EITHER REAPPOINT, UH, OR APPOINT A NEW COUNCIL CHAIRMAN FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR OF 2025.
UM, BUT MOVING ON TO WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS TODAY IS THE ENTITY SEATS.
SO IF YOU MOVE ON TO PAGE TWO, UM, THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD APPOINTED BY THE TAXING ENTITY SHALL SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THEIR RESPECTIVE PARTICIPATING TAXING UNITS.
UM, HOWEVER, IN NO CASE MORE THAN TWO YEARS, I KNOW SOME OF US HAVE BEEN SERVING FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS.
UM, IT IS OKAY, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE YOU REAPPOINTED.
UM, SO STARTING OFF WITH MR. KINLAW, WE WILL READDRESS YOUR REAPPOINTMENT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, MR. REVEREND FRANK, YOURS WILL BE A STANDING POSITION AS LONG AS YOU'RE ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, YOUR APPOINTMENT WILL EXPIRE 2025 WHEN YOU ARE NO LONGER ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
UNFORTUNATELY, UM, MR. JAMES GAMBLE'S APPOINTMENT, WE BELIEVE STARTED IN 2019.
IT SHOULD HAVE EXPIRED IN 2022.
SO WE NEED DD SEVEN TO REAPPOINT HIM OR ELECT SOMEONE NEW.
UM, MOVING ON TO MR. RANDY T. MARTIN.
HIS APPOINTMENT EXPIRED THIS YEAR IN 2024.
HE WILL NEED TO BE REAPPOINTED AS WELL.
UM, AND LASTLY, MR. JOSEPH JOHNSON WAS APPOINTED IN 2019.
HIS APPOINTMENT EXPIRED IN 2022.
UM, THE COMMISSIONER, THE SABINE CHES NAVIGATION DISTRICTS WILL ALSO HAVE TO EITHER REAPPOINT HIM OR ELECT SOMEONE NEW.
AND OUR NEWEST MEMBER, MR. JOSEPH GUILLORY, THE SECOND WILL NOT NEED TO BE REAPPOINTED TILL 2026 BEING AS THOUGH HE WAS DISAPPOINTED IN 2024.
SO AT THIS TIME ARE UM, THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, UH, REAPPOINTED, HAVE TO GO WITH THEIR OWN ENTITIES AND GET, ARE WE GETTING SOME TYPE OF LETTER FROM THEM? YES.
A LETTER BACK FROM MR. JAMES GAMBLE, COMMISSIONER OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY, DD SEVEN.
THEY WILL HAVE TO WRITE US A LETTER SAYING THEY'RE EITHER REAPPOINTED MR. GAMBLE OR ELECTING SOMEONE NEW.
THE PORT OF PORT ARTHUR WILL EITHER HAVE TO WRITE US A LETTER STATING THAT THEY'RE REELECTING, MR. RANDY T. MARTIN, OR THEY'RE NOMINATING SOMEONE NEW.
UM, AND THAT GOES WITH THE SABINE NAS NAVIGATION DISTRICT.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE ADDRESSED BEFORE, UM, REGARDING VACANCIES ON THE BOARD, BECAUSE THE VACANCIES WILL BE TAXING ENTITIES.
THEY WILL FILL THEIR OWN VACANCIES, BUT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN ELECT ADDITIONAL MEMBERS.
AND I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS CURRENTLY.
WELL WE NEED TO HANDLE THAT IN EXEC OR SHOULD THAT BE OPEN THAT IF WE WOULD CHOOSE TO OPEN UP, I KNOW, UH, THAT OUR NEW CITY ATTORNEY
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HAS SOME ASPIRATIONS FOR WANTING TO OPEN UP AND I KNOW ALLOW HER TO GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT SOME OF THE FUTURE PLANS AND GOALS OF THE TURS.UM, SO WHICH PART SHOULD WE HANDLE NOW? SHOULD WE HANDLE? UM, TODAY? WE DON'T NEED TO HANDLE ANYTHING.
I JUST NEEDED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
AND THEN WE WILL DISCUSS AT ANOTHER QUORUM OF HOW WE ARE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM.
NO QUESTIONS? YEAH, QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? CITY MANAGER.
WHAT YOU GOT? UM, UH, TONY, SO THE C WE SHOULD HAVE AN A RESOLUTION ON THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
APPOINTING THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS? YES.
WHO'S GOING TO WRITE? IS D GOING TO WRITE TO THE, ARE YOU GOING TO WRITE TO THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES? YES.
SO I WILL HANDLE THAT PART OF IT.
WHERE I WILL REACH OUT TO THE OTHER ENTITIES TO GET LETTERS BACK STATING WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GONNA REAPPOINT THEIR CURRENT MEMBER OR THEY'RE GOING TO ELECT SOMEONE NEW.
AND THEN WE WILL DRAFT A RESOLUTION REGARDING WHAT'S GONNA BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IN REGARD TO THEIR PERSONAL APPOINTMENTS.
SO THAT'S WHAT NOW DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ROXANNE, TO ADD ON THERE? OKAY.
BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT WE GOT? YOU GOT ANYTHING? BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, NEXT, UH, WE HAVE NUMBER FOUR DISCUSS DISCUSSION ON REGARDING THE DOWNTOWN TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE.
TURF NUMBER ONE BOARD APPOINTING REAPP APPOINT ME.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALREADY COVERED.
[5. Discussion and possible action regarding current and future projects within the boundaries Downtown Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ #1).]
FIVE, DISCUSSING POSSIBLE ACTIONS REGARDING CURRENT AND FUTURE PROJECTS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TAX, UH, DOWNTOWN TAX INCREMENT, REINVESTMENT ZONE TERMS, NUMBER ONE.UM, YOUR HONORS, I'VE ACTUALLY HAD WONDERFUL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND, UH, SEVERAL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDITIONAL TOURS IN OUR CITY.
UM, THE CITY MANAGER AND I SPOKE ABOUT HOW THE POSSIBILITY OF A TOURS FOR PLEASURE ISLAND, UH, WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO DO BEFORE THERE'S MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT YOU CAN CAPTURE THE DIFFERENCING IN THE INCREMENT TO BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THAT YOU'LL HAVE ON PLEASURE ISLAND.
UM, THERE'LL NEED TO BE SOME ADVICE GIVEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GONNA BE AN EXPANSION OF TOURS.
NUMBER ONE, TO INCLUDE PLEASURE ISLAND OR IT'LL BE A COMPLETELY SEPARATE TOURS, MEANING TOURS NUMBER TWO, PLEASURE ISLAND.
SO IF IT IS A SECOND TOURS, IT'LL BE A COMPLETELY, UH, NEW BOARD.
UM, EXISTING MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD COULD, I THINK ALSO SERVE ON THAT BOARD, BUT THEY WOULD BE TWO BOARDS WITH TWO DIFFERENT BUDGETS.
AGAIN, WE WILL DO SOME RESEARCH AND, AND ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL ON WHETHER OR NOT THE TS CAN BE EXPANDED, THE CURRENT ONE EXPANDED, UM, OR IF IT SHOULD BE TWO SEPARATE ONES.
SOTS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL, AND IT IS MOST EFFECTIVE WHEN IT IS PROACTIVE.
UM, I'VE SPOKEN TO, TO MY TEAM, UH, WE'RE SO DISCOURAGED ABOUT THE, THE BUDGET 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE THERE'S NO MONEY, BUT THERE WILL BE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE PREPARE FOR.
SO IT, HERS IS PROACTIVE AND WE SHOULD BEGIN PLANNING FOR THE MASSIVE AMOUNTS THAT WILL BE COMING IN FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS HERE IN THE CITY.
WHAT IS SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES OF ACTUALLY, UH, HAVING TWO TURS OR ACTUALLY ENCOMPASSES THAT TURS WITHIN THIS BOARD RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND HOW WOULD IT BENEFIT THE CITY? YES, SIR.
AS YOU KNOW THAT THE PLEASURE ISLAND IS AN ENTERPRISE ZONE AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PLEASURE ISLAND.
UM, CONSIDERING IT AS AN ISLAND AND CONSIDERING THE SPECIAL CHARACTERISTICS OF PLEASURE ISLAND, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF IT GENERATING A LOT MORE REVENUE WHERE IT IS, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, ALSO INCLUDING NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS OF PLEASURE ISLAND, BUT A MUCH MORE ACTIVE AND EXPANSIVE ROLE FOR THE EXISTING COMMITTEE.
I KNOW ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT, UM, COUNCIL HAVE ASKED US TO LOOK AT WHEN I SAY AS MYSELF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, IS THE ROLE OF THE PLEASURE ISLAND COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE, UM, AS IT IS, UM, BECAUSE I, I THINK AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S, IT'S MERE ROLE AS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ITS MERE ROLE AS A DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY IS IN CONFLICT AS TO HOW IT OPERATES AND HOW EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE IT COULD BE.
SO WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THAT AND WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AND SEE HOW THEY CAN BE MUCH MORE, THEIR EFFORTS CAN BE MUCH MORE COORDINATED SO THAT THEY COULD GIVE, UM, FRUITFUL FEEDBACK AND, UM, WORK AS A TEAM WITH
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THE CITY, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WITH CITY MANAGEMENT IN ORDER TO FOSTER DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE IN PLEASURE ISLAND.SO WE LOOK AT THE MODELS AND WE'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU AND, UM, WE'LL HAVE YOU TO CHOOSE, YOU KNOW, UM, AS I THINK WE HAVE BROUGHT IT TO MY, UM, ATTORNEY, WE HAVE BROUGHT IT TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION IN THE PAST THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MODELS THAT EXIST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THE THIRDS IS BEING POPULATED WITH A LOT OF BUSINESS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHERE THE THIRDS THAT ACTUALLY OWN PROPERTY WITHIN THE TURDS AND, UM, IT HAS ITS OWN SETUP, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THEY CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE TAXES THAT ARE BEING GENERATED AND HOW YOU UTILIZE THOSE TAXES TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
WATER WASTEWATER SEW WAS SIDEWALK STREETS, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, TELECOMMUNICATIONS, THAT SORT OF THING, YOU KNOW.
UM, AND AS YOU'RE RIGHTLY SAID, WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF REVENUE AS YET, BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE.
I REMEMBER, UM, THE PAST DIRECTOR OF THE EDC MADE A PROJECTION OF SOME $20 MILLION, NO, $7 MILLION OVER 20 YEARS, JUST GIVEN THE CURRENT SIZE.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO ATTEND TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF THE TWO AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE ALONG, YOU KNOW, SO WE LOOK AT IT, WE'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO SEE WHAT FITS, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, TO SEE HOW WE COULD GET IT.
I, I THINK THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT MOTIVA, WHETHER MOTIVA WAS INTERESTED OR ANY OTHER ENTITY THAT OWNS PROPERTY WITHIN THE TURS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY WERE INTERESTED IN SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE.
SO WE'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND SUBMIT IT TO COUNCIL, SUBMIT IT TO US.
MAYOR BARTEE AND COUNCILMAN FRANK.
YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND, AND BOARD, UH, AND AND ATTORNEY, WHAT YOU WERE SAYING AND THAT EXPLORING IN WHAT THE CITY MANAGERS BEEN SPEAKING.
UH, THROUGH MY TRAVELS, I'VE SPOKEN WITH A FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT CHURCH BOARDS IN THEIR CITIES, AND THEY DID, UH, SERVE TO BE AN EFFECTIVE TOOL IN AREAS FOR DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT.
AND AS THE CITY, UH, MANAGER JUST SPOKE, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING WHERE, UH, BECAUSE FOR GOVERNANCE SAKE, UH, THE ADVISORY BOARD THERE, BUT THEN MAYBE SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS COULD SERVE ON A CHURCH BOARD AS WELL.
AND AS HE JUST SPOKE, UH, THEY WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE, THEY WOULD HAVE A, A, UH, A GREATER IMPACT ON WHAT IS ACT, UH, ACTUALLY OCCURRING ON THE ISLAND, UH, AS OPPOSED TO, I BELIEVE THE, THE, UH, IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE ON GOVERNANCE ON THE ISLAND NOW.
AND AS LONG AS WE KEEP IT IN THE PROPER PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD WORK IN A POSITIVE MANNER FOR THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH, WITH A, A SECRETARY'S BOARD.
BECAUSE ALSO, IF WE ARE ABLE IN THE FUTURE TO BEGIN THE REGENTRIFICATION, IF YOU WILL, OF TERRORIST ONE IN THIS BOARD, I BELIEVE WOULD PROBABLY BE INUNDATED WITH WORK JUST FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT HERE.
AND I COULD ALMOST ENVISION A CITY MANAGER, A THIRD TERRORIST BOARD FOR, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOOK AT WHAT IS, SO FROM, UH, 73 GOING NORTH TO, UH, 365, YOU KNOW, IN THAT AREA ALL THE WAY BACK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE ENTITIES OUT THERE.
WE HAVE, UH, A POSSIBILITY OF DEVELOPMENTS IN THE, UH, AREA WHERE, UH, ON JAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE OUR, UH, BUSINESS PARK, BUSINESS PARK IS, AND THAT INSIDE AREA, THERE COULD BE ANOTHER CHURCH.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE THREE FUNCTIONING FUNCTIONAL CHURCH BOARDS IN PORT ARTHUR IN THREE DIFFERENT, UH, AREAS.
LIKE YOU ALL MAY DECIDE FOUR OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE WE EVEN HAVE
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I WOULD BE A PROPONENT TO THIS TWO, UH, UH, SUPPORT, MAYBE THREE TO FOUR DIFFERENT TERRORIST BOARDS.AND IT MAY SOUND, UH, NOT NON DOABLE, MAYBE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE A WHOLE LOT ON THIS ONE.
BUT GOING FORWARD, THERE IS A LOT I JUST SAID FOR SIMPLICITY, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE CAN DO WITH IN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR IN THREE TO FOUR OR MAYBE EVEN FIVE DIFFERENT TYPE OF AREAS.
SO I WOULD BE A PROPONENT FOR IT AND, AND, AND SUPPORT THAT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS WANTING TO TALK ABOUT, I CAN FORESEE WHY WE WOULD WANT THAT SECOND TOURS, UM, UM, AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS WE CAN GET IT THERE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, ON THE ISLAND AND, UM, THAT MIGHT TO HELP EXPEDITE WHAT WE'RE DOING, UM, IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE CURRENT TERMS, UH, THAT WE FIND OURSELVES, UM, IN POSSESSION OF RIGHT NOW.
UM, HAVE WE HEARD ANYTHING FROM MOTIVA? I'D LIKE AN UPDATE ABOUT THAT IF WE HAVE.
AND I'D LIKE TO TALK TO US ABOUT, UM, LOOKING RIGHT OUT OF THE WINDOW, LOOKING AT SABINE HOTEL THAT'S BEEN STANDING THERE, UH, FOR AN ELONGATED PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, UH, OUR, OUR SISTER CITY, IF YOU WILL, BEAUMONT, TEXAS, HAS BEEN DEALING WITH AN ISSUE OF, UH, A BUILDING, UM, THAT IS IN DISREPAIR, UH, AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN AND, UM, AND, AND WHETHER OR NOT IT IS A HAZARD IN THE CITY.
AND THEY'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THAT FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
AND I'M WONDERING, UM, WHAT IS, IS, I MEAN, IS THIS BUILDING, JUST THE BUILDING THAT WE HAVE, IS IT JUST AN EYESORE OR IS IT NOW IN A POINT IN PLACE WHERE IT PRESENT, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT PRESENTS A PROBLEM OF SAFETY AS WELL, IF A HURRICANE CAME OR IF SOMETHING ELSE WERE TO HAPPEN? UM, AND ARE THERE ANY THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AS A TOURS, UM, TO, UM, TEAR IT DOWN, UM, UH, PUT IT IN A POSITION TO BE SOLD OR, OR ANY OF THOSE, UH, ANY OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE? YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
CITY MANAGER, IF YOU DON'T MIND US.
UM, COULD YOU COME FOR A SECOND TO ADDRESS THAT PART OF IT? BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, UM, I WANT TO, WITH THIS, I WANT US TO AT SOME POINT REVISIT THE IDEA THAT, UM, WE NEED TO PUT TOGETHER A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN FOR THE TURS, UM, THAT IS OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE.
UM, YOU KNOW, MOVING AHEAD TO MAKE SURE WE DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES NOW, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT'S YOU ARE GOING TO REQUIRE IS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA, FOR THE, SO THAT WE COULD DECIDE, WE, WE ALREADY HAVE THE DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO BUILD ON IT WITH A SEPARATE PLAN, A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
AND A ED FROM OLSEN AND OLSEN HAVE SHARED THAT WITH US TIME AND AGAIN, UM, I THINK THAT WILL POSITION US GREATLY FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE TURDS.
UM, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED, THE WATER, THE WASTEWATER, THE SEWER THAT'S NEEDED, UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE AN IMPEDIMENT TO THE GROWTH OF OUR TOOLS.
YOU KNOW? SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AS OUR FIRST PRIORITY.
UM, I THINK WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT THAT WE COULD, WELL, LITTLE BIT OF RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT WE NEED, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE OUR PRIORITY RIGHT NOW.
THE TOPIC OF SABINE HOTEL, UM, HAS BEEN ON THE CITY'S RADAR FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.
UM, WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH MOTIVA ENTERPRISES IN THE PAST ABOUT TAKING POSSESSION OF THAT BUILDING.
UM, HOWEVER, WE COULD NOT SEEK AN AGREEMENT, UM, WITH MOTIVA IN THE CITY.
UM, DARLENE THOMAS PIERRE, WHO IS OVER THE DEMOLITION DEPARTMENT, HAS DONE EXTENSIVE, UM, WORK ON SABINE HOTEL IN TERMS OF DOING ENVIRONMENTALS AND SO FORTH, UM, TO SEE WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO TO ABATE A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, UM, SUCH AS, UM, LEAD, UM, AND OTHER TOXINS THAT ARE IN THAT BUILDING.
UM, AT THE TIME WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT IT, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS IN 2015, IT WAS APPROXIMATELY $1.8 MILLION TO DO AN ABATEMENT DURING THAT TIME.
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OF COURSE, WE KNOW EVERYTHING POST COVID.I, UM, HAS GONE UP, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, QUITE A BIT.
UM, WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE IDEAL OF DEMOLITION OF THE SABINE HOTEL, AND AGAIN, THE COST WAS IN THE MILLIONS.
UM, I HAVE ASKED MS. PIERRE IF SHE COULD UPDATE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
UM, SO WE CAN GIVE, UM, A MORE THOROUGH REPORT ON SABINE HOTEL AND WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE WITH IT.
UM, IT IS CONTINUOUSLY DETERIORATING.
UM, WE WERE, WE RECEIVED PICTURES, UM, OF SABINE HOTEL, I BELIEVE JUST LAST WEEK, WEEK BEFORE LAST, UM, WHERE THE DEMOLITION DEPARTMENT, UM, WILL HAVE SOMEONE TO GO OUT, UM, TO REMOVE, UM, CERTAIN, UM, AREAS OF, UH, FACADE THAT SURROUND THE BUILDING THAT IS STARTING TO CRUMBLE AND FALL TO THE GROUND.
UM, SO THERE IS, UM, AN IMMEDIATE CONCERN, UM, WITH THE CONDITION OF THAT BUILDING AS IT CONTINUES TO DETERIORATE.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE COST ASSOCIATED, UM, WITH THE ABATEMENT AND THE DUMP DEMOLISHING OF THAT BUILDING IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HANDLE, UM, AS PART OF THE CITY'S BUDGET.
SO THE, THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR OWNS THE SAAB BINGO HOTEL.
HOW DID WE, HOW DID WE GET IN POSSESSION OF IT? UM, IT SOMETIME BACK.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH IT AND MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE AN ACCURATE ANSWER.
I WOULDN'T WANNA GIVE MISINFORMATION PUBLICLY.
UM, BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY, UM, THE OWNER OF SABINE HOTEL.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT, THOUGH, UM, THE MUSEUM OF THE GULF COAST HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THE SABINE HOTEL AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE NEW MUSEUM CONTINUES TO GROW AND, UM, THE NUMBER OF EXHIBITS THAT THEY HAVE THERE CONTINUE TO GROW AS WELL.
AND, UM, IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR, MOTIVA MADE A DONATION OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO THEM, UM, WHICH THEY STILL HAVE IN THEIR COFFERS.
UM, AND THEY HAVE JUST VERBALLY, THEY HAVE JUST EXPRESSED INTEREST, YOU KNOW, IN, YOU KNOW, ACQUIRING THE HOTEL BY SOME MEANS, WHETHER THE CITY MIGHT WANT, THEY HAVEN'T MADE ANY, UM, OFFICIAL REQUESTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY, I THINK THEY, THEY'RE TO OF THE IDEAS TO, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING THE HOTEL BUILDING AND FLY FLYOVER, YOU CALL IT, THAT THEY COULD EXPAND, UM, UH, UM, SOME SECURE PLACE FOR THE NUMBER OF EXHIBITS THAT, UM, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE.
ONE MORE QUESTION, IF I MIGHT, WERE, WAS, WEREN'T THERE SOME OFFERS THAT WERE MADE THE, FOR THE HOTEL TO THE CITY? THE LAST OFFER THAT WAS MADE? FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS WITH ANOTHER ENTITY, UM, THAT WAS INTERESTED, UM, IN THE SABINE HOTEL, BUT IT NEVER CAME INTO FRUITION, SO I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE, UM, WHERE THAT NEGOTIATION STOPPED.
UH, COUNCILMAN FRANK AND, UH, CITY MANAGER.
JUST BE ONE REFERENCE BEFORE YOU GO TO PAM.
AND I, I KNOW WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK THE MAYOR BROUGHT IT UP MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
IF WE CAN GET SOMEONE TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE, IF WE CAN GIVE THE BUILDING SINCE WE OWN IT AND HAVE THEM, UH, UH, INVEST IN THE BUILDING, OR IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN DO THAT LEGALLY WHERE THAT WE CAN JUST GIVE AN ENTITY, YOU KNOW, PUT IT OUT THERE AND SAY, HEY, WE GOT A BUILDING.
ALL WE NEED YOU GUYS TO DO IS COME IN AND INVEST IN THIS BUILDING THAT, THAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND, AND HAVE THEM TAKE UP ON THE BURDENING OF THE FINANCIAL PART OF IT? AND, AND THEN WE COMPENSATE ON THE BACK END? THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CITIES OFTEN USE CALLED, CALLED IT CHAPTER THREE 80, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UM, BY WHICH WE CAN PROVIDE GRANTS OR LOANS OR MONIES OR BUILDINGS OR PROPERTY PROVIDED THAT, UM, THERE'S A RECIPROCAL EFFECT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO YES, THERE IS A MECHANISM, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAILS THAT HAVE TO BE PUT IN THAT MECHANISM.
UH, CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENTS ARE FREQUENTLY DONE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
I'VE DONE MANY, MANY MAYOR
UH, THERE'S A GENTLEMAN THAT, UH, UH, I SPOKE WITH AND I WAS TELLING THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT HIM, UH, LAST WEEK.
I'M GOING TO INVITE HIM HERE TO SEE THAT BILL.
MAYBE THEY PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW HE'S HERE.
BUT, UH, I'M GONNA INVITE HIM HERE
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SPECIFICALLY ON THAT.AND THEN I CAN INVITE YOU, UH, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER, SIT DOWN WITH US, WITH THE GENTLEMAN, AND WE BRING THIS.
AND IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING HE CAN, UH, CONSIDER AND WHAT THE CHAIR SAID, WE'LL COME BACK AND, AND BEGIN TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING.
HE WANTS TO COME TO PORT ARTHUR, UH, WITH SOME TYPE, WITH SOME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND THIS IS NOT YOU, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT WE EXPERIENCED, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT THING, KNOW THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS GENTLEMAN'S COMPANY.
THEY HAVE THINGS GOING ON ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
'CAUSE WHEN I WAS GOING OVER TO THAT OFFICE AND GOING IN, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GONNA SEE WHAT I SAW IN THERE AND THE OPERATION.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS HIS WHOLE OPERATION.
AND BY THE TIME WE HAVE ANOTHER TERRORIST MEETING BEFORE BEN, 'CAUSE THIS IS THE THING I CAN OFFER TO HIM.
UM, CITY ATTORNEY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAS THEIR AUTHORITIES, BUT THE CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENTS ALSO APPLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE A DC.
SO WHILE YOU MIGHT BE RELYING ON THE EDC FOR CERTAIN THINGS, THE CITY STILL HAS ITS OWN AUTHORITY INVOLVING A CHAPTER THREE 80.
IT'S GOOD FOR THEM TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
THEY CAN DO THEIR OWN THINGS EACH.
A A WHILE BACK WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH AND TRYING TO LOOK, UH, INTO SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IN PORT ARTHUR.
AND IN MY RESEARCH, ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND WAS THE TEXAS MAIN STREET PROGRAM.
UM, AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD RESEARCH AND SEE IF THERE WERE ANY RESOURCES THAT WE COULD UTILIZE TOWARDS AFFECTING THAT BUILDING AND HELPING IT, UH, HERE.
SO I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AND DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.
BUT THERE IS A PROGRAM CALLED THE TEXAS MAIN STREET PROGRAM, AND THEY HAVE SOME RESOURCES, UH, THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO, TO UTILIZE THE CITY ONCE A UPON A TIME.
UM, PARTICIPATED IN THE MAIN STREET PROGRAM WITH FERNANDO RAMIREZ BEING THE CHAIR.
UM, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY RESEARCH IT, UM, AND SEE WHAT THE CITY STANDING IS AND WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO GET BACK INTO THAT PROGRAM.
SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, MARY SX WORKS WITH US IN THE GRANTS, GRANTS DEPARTMENT.
AND, UM, A FEW YEARS AGO, WE, UM, WHEN I WAS PART OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE WENT OUT AND WE RECEIVED A GRANT FOR $300,000.
UM, WE HAVE SINCE CLOSED THAT GRANT.
AND, UM, WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE EP, WE ARE LOOKING AT A PLANNING GRANT THAT WE'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR, UM, THAT WOULD HELP US WITH NOT ONLY THE ABATEMENT, BUT FOR FUTURE PLANS FOR BROWNFIELDS, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SABINE HOTEL LISTED AS A BROWNFIELD AS WELL.
UM, AND, UM, THE EPA DID INDICATE TO US IT'S MUCH MORE LIKELY, WE ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO GET FUTURE FUNDING IF WE RECEIVE THAT PLANNING GRANT.
WHEN WE RECEIVE THAT PLANNING GRANT, WE WILL GO ON TO STAGE TWO IMPLEMENTATION WHEN WE APPROVE THE PLANNING PART OF IT.
AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP THE GULF MUSEUM OF THE GULF COAST.
THE MUSEUM OF THE GULF COAST IS A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR AND WILL CONTINUE TO DRAW TOURISTS AND PEOPLE, PEOPLE COME FROM EUROPE JUST TO USE THE MUSEUM OF THE GULF COAST.
SO IF THE MUSEUM OF THE GULF COAST CONTINUE TO ESTABLISH ASSETS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND, UM, THOSE ASSETS CAN BE PART, CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE TAXES WITHIN THE TOTS, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA AS WELL.
AND IF WE COULD WORK WITH THEM WITH A FREE ET AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, UM, AS A NON-PROFIT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD SERVE AS A CATALYST AS WELL, YOU KNOW, TO ASSIST AND TO BRING, YOU KNOW, I I, IT WAS JUST A DISCUSSION WITH THE CURATOR OUT THERE, AND HE WAS INDICATING THAT HE HAS REACHED OUT TO INDUSTRY.
AND THE WHOLE IDEA WAS IF EACH INDUSTRY COULD TAKE A FLOW AND DEVELOP A FLOW, YOU KNOW, UM, MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEVELOPER OF EACH FLOW AND HAND IT OVER BACK TO THE MUSEUM OF THE GOLF COURSE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY COULD USE IT AS, UM, THAT'S INCOME FOR INCOME GENERATING FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
SO, AND I TOLD HIM, SO I TOLD HIM, PUT
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THE PLAN TOGETHER, PUT A PLAN TOGETHER, AND COME AND PRESENT IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT REMAINS AN ASSET FOR THE CITY.IT'S A CITY ASSET, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THAT MONEY REMAINS THERE AS PART OF, UM, THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE WILL SEE A CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN IT.
SO I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, TO SEE HOW WE CAN, HOW THAT CAN COME TO FRUITION.
I LIKE IT THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PILOT BOARD MEMBERS, UH, UH, MAYOR BARTEE.
UH, CHAIRMAN AND, AND AND BOARD AT, UH, I LIKE WHERE FRANK SAID THIS, I'M GONNA THROW THIS IN THE GUMBO WHILE WE STAND OVER THE POT.
THIS DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE, SUPPORTS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT 12, 18 MONTHS AGO.
YOU SEE WHAT WE ARE TALKING, ALL THESE THINGS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVE STAFF, BUT THE STAFF THERE ARE ALREADY, UH, I WOULD EVEN USE THE WORD AGAIN, INUNDATED WITH THEIR OWN WORD.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED, WE NEED AN INDIVIDUAL.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE, WE SEE RIGHT NOW WE NEED AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WILL WORK EXPRESSLY FOR CHURCH AND CHURCH FUTURE CHURCH DEVELOPMENT, WHICH MEANS IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TWO OR THREE THIRDS, THEY GONNA HAVE TO WORK FOR ALL THREE OF THEM OR FOUR OF THEM.
BUT IF IT'S A ONE PERSON OFFICE OR ONE AND A HALF PERSON OFFICE, EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING NOW, SEE, YOU GO, I MEAN, YOU, YOU GOOD NOW, PAM, ALL Y'ALL GOOD, BUT I GOT SOME TWO, THREE THINGS, THINGS ON MY PHONE NOW I NEED TO CALL YOU ABOUT.
THEY GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
EVERYBODY UP HERE PROBABLY HAS SOMETHING.
THEN WE GIVE YOU ALL OF THAT, PLUS WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE, PLUS WHAT'S ALREADY ON YOUR DESK.
UH, THE ATTORNEYS, OR WE MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
LOOK HERE, I'M GONNA JUST TELL Y'ALL SOMETHING.
SAY A YOUNG MAN JUST WALKED IN THE DOOR, WHO JUST GOT A DEGREE IN GOVERNMENT FROM LAMAR UNIVERSITY, MY ALMA MATER.
THE YOUNG MAN WALKED IN THE DOOR THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I'M SAYING.
THAT'S SOMEONE ELSE WE CAN TRAIN, SEND THEM TO GET THE OTHER TRAINING, TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GROW THIS THING.
WE CAN SIT THERE AND HAVE MEETINGS ALL DAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.
AND YOU LOOK AT THREE YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS AGO, YOU, WHEN YOU CAME ON TO BE THE CHAIRMAN, THEN WE, WE FINALLY GOT A BUDGET.
YOU REMEMBER? Y'ALL REMEMBER? YEAH.
NOW WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS THAT MIGHT LEAD US TO EVEN A HIGHER LEVEL.
WHEN I SAY GOING FORWARD, I ALWAYS USE THAT TERM THINKING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, ASCENDING THIS, THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YOU ARE GOING TO SAY.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING ANY FOLKS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE PERSON, BUT YOU GOT SOMEBODY HERE WHO HAS THE MINIMAL BASIC SKILLS.
WE GOT SOME PEOPLE HERE WHO COULD TRAIN HIM.
YOU UNDERSTAND? TO BE THE PERSON WE WANT HIM TO BE.
PAM, I MEAN, MS. LANFORD, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE SEND HIM TO GO FIND OUT THIS INFORMATION FOR US, Y'ALL, AND TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
THE PERSON I'M TALKING ABOUT, ONCE I WOULD BRING THE MAN HERE, I GOT SOME OTHER STUFF TO DO.
I CAN'T DEAL WITH HIM EVERY DAY.
YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH THAT EVERY, YOU GOTTA GO DO YOUR COURT, RIGHT? SO YOU GOTTA HAVE A STAFF MEMBER THAT'S DEDICATED TO JUST DOING THIS FOR US.
SO, CAMERON, THAT'S ON YOU NOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN.
YOU GOT, YOU GOT YOUR CITY IN.
UH, I MEAN, HOW ARE YOU GONNA LOOK? NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.
UH, WE, WE NEED TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX AND THINK LARGER PERSPECTIVE.
UH, MAYOR, UH, I THINK THAT WHEN WE STARTED THIS, THE INTENTIONS WERE TO HAVE MULTIPLE TERMS. I THINK WE ARE GONNA, WE ARE ON THE WAY.
YOU GUYS KNOW? THANK YOU TO THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AS WELL.
AND SHE'S GONNA GIVE OUR REPORT SHORTLY ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE.
UH, BUT NOW WE WE'RE ON NO CUFF.
I MEAN, IT, IT WAS, WE WERE CRAWLING, AND NOW WE WALKING AND WALKING FAST.
AND THANK YOU MAYOR FOR YOUR COMPASSION.
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BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN, WE CAN REALLY GET MOVING IN.AND I, I KNOW THE YOUNG MAN THAT'S OUT THERE, WE CHEEK
WE, WE DO MAY NEED TO LOOK, IF WE START ANOTHER T WE MAY LOOK TO ANOTHER, UH, UM, UH, UH, STAFF THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT WE CAN ALWAYS DEPEND UPON.
UH, COMMISSIONER MARTIN, GO AHEAD.
HEY, FIRST OFF, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL, BUT, UM, I SOMEWHAT LIKE THE, THE IDEA OF HAVING SEPARATE, UH, TERRACE BOARDS, OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY AFTER WE GET THIS ONE REALLY UP AND ROLLING, BUT MY ONLY QUESTION, I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE PROBABLY SAID IT AND I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT.
WHO WOULD GOVERN THOSE SEPARATE BOARDS? YEAH.
UH, REAL BRIEFLY, ROXANNE, YOU WANT TO JUST GO OVER THAT REAL QUICK? SO GET THE COMMISSION ON BOARD.
IF IT WAS A SEPARATE BOARD, IT WOULD BE, UM, A SEPARATE BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT WOULD GOVERN THET.
SO IT WOULD BE JUST A BOARD JUST ESTABLISHED LIKE THIS ONE.
IT COULD BE THESE MEMBERS, OR IT COULD BE DIFFERENT MEMBERS, BUT IT WOULD BE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES THAT WOULD HAVE TWO SEPARATE FINANCING CAPABILITIES.
WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M ASKING IS, UH, THE HEAD OF THIS BOARD IS A CITY PERSONNEL, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
WOULD IT BE CITY OR, I MEAN EVEN PORT BECAUSE, SO IN MY TWO LOCATIONS, THAT'S NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE.
WE TALKING ABOUT INCLUDING, UH, BUSINESS OWNERS, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THEY, THEY WAIVER, YOU KNOW, THE PERSONNEL COMING FROM CITY COUNCIL OR FROM THE COMMISSION BOARD OR EVEN DOWN WITH THE, WITH THE JUDGE OR WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
THOSE OFFICERS, THEY DON'T GO ANYWHERE AT, AT LEAST FOR US, MAYBE THE PERSONNEL MIGHT MOVE IN AND OUT, BUT THAT POSITION, YOU KNOW, IS GONNA BE A CITY ENTITY, CITY GOVERNOR.
THOSE ARE ACTUALLY DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE BY THE GOVERNING BODY ON WHO IS GOING TO BE SERVING AND HOW LONG THEY'LL SERVE.
I'VE SEEN MANY TOURS AROUND THE STATE OF TEXAS WHERE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE THE TOURS BOARD MEMBERS FOR JUST A LITTLE WHILE UNTIL THEY CAN GET THEIR MEMBERS APPOINTED IN.
SO IT'LL ALL DEPEND ON THE ORDINANCE THAT CREATES THE TURS AND WHAT THE GOVERNING BODY, UH, WANTS FOR THE FULFILLMENT OF THE BOARD.
JUST FOR CLARITY, UH, YOU SAID APPOINTED IN, SO THAT MEAN THAT THEY, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OR WHOEVER WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPOINT SOMEONE TO THAT SEAT AS SAME AS LIKE, UH, EDC PER SE? YES, SIR.
UH, ANY OTHER DIALOGUE OR COMMUNICATION WITH THAT? UH, I HOPE THAT WE WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, SABINE HOTEL AND THE TEXAS MAIN STREET PROGRAM, PAM, THAT'S ON THE LIST, UH, TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THOSE INVESTORS IN AND WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO DOWNTOWN.
IF NO FURTHER QUESTION, I'M GONNA ASK IF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, YOU WANT TO COME UP AND GIVE YOU A REPORT ABOUT THE FINANCIAL ASPECT? GOOD AFTERNOON DIRECTORS IFSO WORKS IN MY DEPARTMENT.
HE'S DOING A GOOD JOB AND DOING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THERE.
SO THE ACTUAL TO DATE HAS NOT CHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS.
BY THE TIME THAT YOU ARE DONE WITH THIS YEAR, IT PROBABLY WILL NET ZERO IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE UPCOMING BUDGET AND IF NOT, I STAND HERE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING CURRENTLY WE AT NET ZERO THE CURRENT WILL BE NET ZERO? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND SO THE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HAVE WE SPIN? THE ONLY, THE ONLY ITEM THAT WAS APPROPRIATED WAS THE TRANSFERS TO CAPITAL.
THAT'S THE ONLY EXPENDITURE THAT WAS APPROPRIATED FOR THE 24 BUDGET.
SO WE TRANSFERRED TO CAPITAL THAT AMOUNT.
SO WHAT, WHAT ARE WE USING AT OKAY, MAY, MAY, MAY.
THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I KNEW LAST MEETING WE HAD A, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A, WE HAD ABOUT THE $50,000, BUT TRANSFERRING TO CAPITAL, WE DO SOMETHING THAT I WASN'T AWARE OF, UH, PAM OR WHAT? TRANSFERRING TO CAPITAL FOR WHAT REASON? LEMME ASK THAT QUESTION.
I WAS NOT HERE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT
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OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THAT TIME.
I KNOW, UH, WELL THE THING IS THAT WE, WE'VE ONLY DISCUSSED TWO, TWO, UH, MAJOR PROJECTS THAT WE WERE GONNA DO.
AND CORRECT ME WRONG, MAYOR, COUNCILMAN, UH, FRANK, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, MARTIN, YOU WERE HERE THAT WE WERE, UH, TALKING ABOUT, UH, AT ONE TIME ABOUT, UH, THE FIRE HYDRANTS.
SO WHERE DID WE TRANSFER THE MONEY TO AND WHAT PURPOSE? BECAUSE IF WE GONNA TRANSFER, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S GONNA PROBABLY BE NEXT MEETING WHERE YOU COULD GET THIS INFORMATION.
UH, I JUST WANNA PUT IT ON YOUR BRAIN THAT WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TRANSFERRING AND WHY AS A TURF ENTITY, BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE INDEPENDENT, UH, UH, BOARDS THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND EXPLAIN WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING TO.
UH, SO IF YOU WOULD DO THAT, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
IF YOU MAKE A REPORT TO REPORT THAT BACK TO THIS CURRENT, UH, TURS BOARD, AND THEN I KNOW YOU WERE ABOUT, I KNOW I GOT A LIGHTER OR TWO ON, IF YOU WOULD, UH, TELL US THE ANTICIPATED AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GONNA GET IN THIS NEW BUDGET AS WELL.
COUNCILMAN, I'M, I'M VERY HAPPY TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE ANTICIPATED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
THE ANTICIPATED BUDGET IS DEFINITELY AN INCREASE.
YOUR ANTICIPATED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 IS 89,119.
THIS PAST YEAR SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE, YOU HAD MADE A REQUEST ONCE TO MAYBE BE ABLE TO PURCHASE SOME SHIRTS.
YEAH, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO NOW.
I LEFT CURRENTLY, I, I'M NOT SURE THE STATUS, SO I KEPT THE TRANSFER TO CAPITAL THE SAME AND WE CANNOT REVISIT THAT THE NEXT TIME IF WE WANT TO FIND OUT.
I, I'VE GOTTA FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS FOR AND THE REST, THE REMAINDER, BECAUSE I LIKE A BALANCED BUDGET IS LEFT IN CONTINGENCY AND I LEAVE IT IN CONTINGENCY IN CASE YOU HAVE EXPENSES THAT YOU DID NOT ANTICIPATE THAT YOU WANT ON DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS LATER ON THROUGH THE YEAR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RE-APPROPRIATE THE BUDGET.
THE MAX AMOUNT YOU CAN SPEND IS ONLY THE 89,119.
THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATION.
UM, UH, COUNCILMAN FRANKLIN AND MAYOR BARTY.
SO LYNN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
THE BUT UM, MONIES UTILIZED FOR OUR TOURS BUDGET, THEY, THEY CAN ONLY BE APPROPRIATED LIKE IN CITY COUNCIL.
THEY HAVE TO BE DONE BY RESOLUTION.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO VOTE AND DO RESOLUTIONS AND TO MOVE THAT MONEY OR HOW DO, HOW, I MEAN IT HAS TO BE VIA RESOLUTION, RIGHT? I'M NOT FAMILIAR HOW YOU DO YOUR TOURS IN, IN MY EXPERIENCE, USUALLY THE TOURS BOARD DOES THE RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE THE MONEY AND THEN I BRING IT TO COUNCIL FOR THAT TO BE IN THEIR APPROPRIATION IS NORMALLY HOW I WOULD DO IT.
SO THAT, SO WE ARE, IF THE MONEY WAS MOVED, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE VIA RESOLUTION.
THERE HAS BEEN NO MOVEMENT OF MONEY OTHER THAN THE APPROPRIATION OF THE $50,000 TRANSFER.
I HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING WITH THIS BUDGET.
WHAT TALKING THAT'S WHAT TALKING THE 50,000 THAT'S CORRECT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.
THE $50,000 SHOULD HAVE BEEN MOVED VIA RESOLUTION SOMEHOW.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN MOVED VIA DID YOU GUYS DO A RESOLUTION LAST YEAR IN YOUR CHURCH? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE WE'RE ASKING YOU TO GO.
OH, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO RESEARCH AND, AND FIND OUT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED ON THE LAST BUDGET THAT WE WOULD GET ABOUT 50,000.
HE'S ASKING YOU TO GO BACK AND SEE IF IT WAS VIA RESOLUTION MOVED BY THE COUNCIL, UH, APPROVED BY THIS TURF BOARD TO ACTUALLY GO TO COUNCIL.
THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THE COUNCILMAN IS ASKING.
I WILL DEFINITELY RESEARCH AND FIND OUT FROM PREVIOUS BOARD YOUR, UH, BOARD MINUTES WHAT HAD BEEN DONE AND THEN WE WILL REPEAT THAT.
MY CONCERN IS THE COUNCIL WILL BE ADOPTING THE BUDGET FORMALLY IN A COUPLE WEEKS.
UH, COUNCILMAN FRANK, ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THANK YOU.
YEAH, UH, MS. LYNN AND, AND, AND AND BOARD AND, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, I'M JUST DREAMING.
SO WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY, IF WE COULD EVEN CONSIDER WHAT I SPOKE ON A FEW MOMENTS AGO, IF WE WERE TRYING TO HIRE SOMEBODY, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR US WITH THIS BUDGET, UH, PROPOSAL IF WE WERE JUST, OKAY, IF WE WANTED TO PAD WITH 45,000 MORE DOLLARS OR 50,000, ANOTHER $50,000, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'D EITHER GET A CONTRACT FIRST OR SOMEBODY WHO ALREADY WORKS FOR THE CITY WHO, WHO WHO ALREADY HAD THE BENEFITS.
YOU KNOW, Y'ALL DO ALL MAKE ALL THAT STUFF HAPPEN.
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BUT IF WE WERE TRYING TO GET, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT A EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE THIRD OR SOMETHING, HOW, HOW CAN WE JUST OFFER THE, OFFER THE CUFF I AT, AT A MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, GET MM-HMMI DON'T MEAN NOTHING BAD, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CAN'T ANYBODY WITH OVER NO EXPERIENCE COMING AND SAY THEY WANT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
YOU, YOU FEEL, YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? BECAUSE WE, WE NEED SOMEBODY WE CAN GUIDE BECAUSE WE ARE CRAWLING.
IF WE CAN AFFORD TO GET SOMEBODY FOR 150,000 AND ME REALLY HAVE ALL THE CONNECTIONS, THAT'S ONE THING.
BUT IF WE COULD GET SOME ONE, NO, 40, $50,000, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE GET THAT IN THERE NOW AND YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE JANUARY OR FEBRUARY BEFORE YOU FIND THE PERSON.
BUT YOU WOULD, WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE PREPARED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE STAGNANT.
YOU KNOW, IT JUST, WE, WE, WE ARE STAGNANT WHERE WE WERE WHEN I GOT HERE IN 19, I STARTED PAYING ATTENTION AND I REALLY GOT ON IN 21 AND WE ARE STILL STAGNANT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE ARE NOT, WELL LIKE I SAID, WE DO HAVE SOME MONEY.
WE DID GET SOMETHING ON THE WEBPAGE.
SO I MEAN WE'VE MADE, WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS NOW, BUT WE ARE STILL STAGNANT BECAUSE IT'S NO GROWTH.
SO WE, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME FUNDS TO GROW.
I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE MY EXPERIENCE WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE LIMITED BUDGET, MY FEELING WOULD BE PERHAPS SOMEBODY WHO'S EXPERIENCED THAT CAN SPLIT THEIR TIME.
SO IT'S NOT A FULL FTE, YOU'RE NOT PAYING THEIR FULL AMOUNT.
IT'S A PARTIALITY OF THEIR TIME.
MAYBE 20%, 30%, WHICH WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD FIT WITHIN YOUR BUDGET.
THE, ANOTHER POSSIBILITY COULD BE HIRING A PERSON THAT IS PART-TIME FOR JUST THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY DO IT, THAT HAS THAT EXPERIENCE THAT'S WILLING TO DO THAT.
SO THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION, I'M JUST HERE TO GIVE YOU ALL OPTIONS THAT I, THAT I CAN THINK OF IS POTENTIALLY A CONTRACT WHICH WOULD WORK VERY SIMILAR TO SOMEONE WHO IS PART-TIME.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OPTIONS I PROBABLY WOULD GEAR TOWARDS SOMEBODY HAVING A SPLIT FTE.
THAT WAY THEY CAN WORK IN OTHER AREAS AND THEN THEY CAN POTENTIALLY GROW THE POSITION AS THE MONEY COMES IN AS WELL.
I WOULD DEFER ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND TO THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
BUT I WANT TO ASK IF WE WOULD PICK UP ON ONE OF YOUR, ONE OF YOUR, OR I, I WOULD CALL 'EM BULLET POINTS.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO FINANCE IT? OR MAYBE IF YOU SAID I DIDN'T HEAR IT, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE PUT THIS IN NOW.
I'M, I'M TALKING LIKE NOW, NOW MAYBE THAT CAN'T HAPPEN.
NO, NOT NOW, BUT BECAUSE OF, UH, THE BUDGET, UH, UH, THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET IS WHAT YOU SAID? 85.
SO WE WERE LOOKING TO, UH, HAVE SOMEONE ON A CONTRACTUAL BASIS OR MAYBE A PART-TIME BASIS.
YOU, YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT SOMEONE GRADUATING FROM, UM, FROM A COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A MINIMUM AT MINIMUM OF 50,000 I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR 40, 50,004 YEAR GRAD, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, I I HAVE TO SUPPORT MY STAFF IN MENTIONING THIS.
THE CITY, THE LAW DEPARTMENT HAS, HAS TWO EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN CARRYING, UM, THE LOAD OF THE LOAD FOR THE TOURS.
UM, THAT HAS BEEN DE WHO MAKES ALL YOUR BOOKS AND MAKES SURE THAT Y'ALL GET TO COME TO THE MEETING AND SETS EVERYTHING UP.
AND THEN, UH, TORI CERTAINLY HAS BEEN DOING SOME LEGAL STUFF, UM, AS WELL.
I ALSO WANNA MENTION THAT YOUR, UH, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE HAS SOMETHING THEY WANNA TALK ABOUT INVOLVING THE 50,000.
UM, I'M SURE THAT IF THIS BOARD WAS WANTING TO ADJUST THEIR PROPOSED BUDGET TO INCLUDE FUNDING TO EXPAND AN EXISTING ROLE IN THE CITY, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT AS A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE TOURS AND PLACED ON THE BUDGET ON THE AGENDA FOR A PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT.
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW.
BUT IT'D BE, IT WOULD BE A SPECIAL MEETING.
WE COULD HAVE QUICKLY, WELL, EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE MR. CHAIR, I MEAN, I MEAN WE WOULD PREPARE OURSELVES NEXT WEEK 'CAUSE WE GOT, WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER HEARING ON THE ENTIRE BUDGET.
I'M, I'M JUST SPEAKING ABOUT HAVING SOMETHING INCLUDES INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET THAT WE ARE WORKING ON NOW.
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I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF I'M, MAYBE I'M SOUND, I HOPE I'M NOT SOUNDING IGNORANT REALLY, BUT ANYTHING CAN CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND ADOPTION.SO I CHANGE, I LIKE WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
SO I, I'M, I MEAN I SOUND INTELLIGENT THEN.
I WOULD SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S ANOTHER MEETING OR TWO, BECAUSE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, WE'D HAVE TO, IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT, I'M WILLING TO DO IT.
I THINK THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WOULD BE WILLING BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THIS, THIS AND, AND, AND THE STAGNATION AND THE D INSURED.
YOU GONNA GIVE US THEM? YEAH, WELL HOLD, WELL WE, I GUESS WE CAN NEGOTIATE AND MAYBE FIND OUT THEY COME WITH ADDITIONAL DUTIES.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU WANTED Y'ALL EVEN CHAIRMAN, BUT BILL, I'M SORRY CHAIRMAN IF I MAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS CLARITY IN REGARDS TO THE TRANSFER TO CAPITAL.
UM, BECAUSE THERE WERE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT BY, UM, BY THE TURS AS YOU MENTIONED, UM, THE, UH, FIRE HYDRANTS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
UM, MY ASSUMPTION IS, IS THAT THE $50,000 WAS TRANSFERRED TO CAPITAL IN ORDER TO SUPPORT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
NOW THE TRANSFER IS NOT AN EXPENDITURE, RIGHT.
SO I WANTED TO ENSURE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR THAT TRANSFER TO CAPITAL DOES NOT MEAN THAT $50,000 WAS SPUN WITHOUT THE TURS UNDER KNOWLEDGE OR APPROVAL.
IT WAS A TRANSFER TO CAPITAL IN ORDER TO, UH, TAKE CARE OF ANY PROJECTS THAT THE TURS MAY HAVE VOTED, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, THANK YOU FOR CLARITY THAT WE DID UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THE MONEY DID NOT NECESSARILY GO AWAY.
IT WAS NOT SPENT WITHOUT THE TURS KNOWLEDGE.
IT WAS PUT PLACED INTO A CAPITAL ACCOUNT FOR ANY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT PROJECT.
SO WE STILL GET ARE YOU SAYING WE STILL GOT HANDS ON THAT, THAT MONEY? THAT IS CORRECT.
I JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE COUNCILMAN AND OF COURSE THE MAYOR AND NINE PLUS 50, HUH? WELL, THAT'S GONNA BE ONCE WE APPROVE THE BUDGET, BUT WE STILL GOTTA PROCESS.
SO WE STILL, THAT STILL CAN CHANGE THE 89 PLUS 50.
SO I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TRACKING ON CITY ATTORNEY.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, WE HAVE, UH, WITH FINANCE GUYS, UH, YOU GOT YOUR MARCHING ORDERS, UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR AND YES, I DO YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT WE KINDA WANT.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE? DEE TORY? JUST, JUST A QUESTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER MARTIN, UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN? WHAT'S THAT? THE TRANSFER OF CAPITAL EVERY YEAR? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE ROUTINELY DONE? WELL, WHO WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? HE'S, UH, THE COMMISSIONER IS ASKING IS THAT'S SOMETHING ROUTE TO UH, WELL ONE OF THE THINGS COMMISSIONER, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WHEN IT WAS TRANSFERRED, WHOEVER'S GONNA DO THE RESEARCH ON THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE SAID THAT WE WANTED TO DO, UH, UH, SOME TYPE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW AS A TUR BOARD WHAT PROGRAMS IS GONNA BE THE MONEY BECAUSE WE GOT ALL THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT WANT TO KNOW THAT AND THEY HAVE TO REPORT BACK TO THEIR RIGHT.
UH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE DOING.
I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT.
BUT IF WE CAN GET THAT RESEARCH, I MEAN IT GO, IT, WE STILL GOT HANDS ON IT.
COMMISSIONER THE 50,000, BUT PAM, COULD WE GET SOMEONE TO TELL US, YOU KNOW, IS TRANSFERRED TO CAPITAL? WE GOT A HANDS ON IT, BUT WHAT'S THE PLAN OF THE TURFS, THE WISHES OF THIS, UH, COLLECTIVE BOARD? WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAVE? OKAY.
UM, SO IF THE DECISION IS TO TRANSFER A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT INTO OPERATIONS, A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT INTO CAPITAL, THAT INFORMATION WOULD HAVE TO BE DECIDED AMONGST THE TURS? YES.
UM, PROVIDED TO THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND ALSO, UM, POSSIBLY CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION, UM, DURING A COUNCIL MEETING.
BUT THE DECISION WOULD BE TO THE TURS IN REGARDS TO HOW, UM, THE REVENUES OR DD I GUESS YOU CAN SAY.
WELL, I GUESS JUST A SUGGESTION FROM ME, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, I, I DO HAVE TO REPORT BACK, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE BOARD.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT THE FUNDING, UNLESS DIRECTLY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TURS ARE SPENDING MONEY, MONEY ON, I BELIEVE THAT THOSE FUNDS SHOULD PROBABLY STAY IN THE BUDGET FOR THE TURS FOR SAKE OF CLARITY.
YOU GOT THAT? IF, UH, WE CAN DO THIS.
UH, D TORY, UH, NEXT, UH, TORY'S MEETING, WHEN WE SET IT, WE GONNA HAVE TO GO IN EXEC.
'CAUSE I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THE COMMISSIONER HAS A, A VALID POINT.
UH, I ALSO, UH, FEEL THAT COMM UH, COUNCILMAN FRANK HAS A VALID POINT, UH, THAT WE WILL PROBABLY NEED
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TO GO IN EXEC AND TALK ABOUT TWO, UH, ADDITIONAL, IF WE'RE GONNA USE YOU GUYS INCREASE, COME WITH SOME TYPE OF CONTRACT, CITY ATTORNEY WITH THE EXISTING, BECAUSE YOU GUYS BEEN CARRYING THE LOAD, FINDING OUT WHAT WE CAN DO AND OF COURSE, THE BUDGET, HAVING THE MONEY BEING TRANSFERRED.IF YOU KNOW FOR TRANSPARENCY, UH, JUDGE, JUDGE, UH, GUILLORY, HIT YOUR LIGHT IF YOU WANT TO TALK.
OH, UH, TORY, REAL BRIEFLY, IF SOMEONE COULD COME AND TALK ABOUT THE WEBSITE, UH, JUDGE GUILLORY, UH, IF YOU KNOW WHERE WE ABLE DIRECT, I KNOW WE HAVE OUR IN-HOUSE, JUST REAL QUICK, UH, WE GONNA HAVE TO DO, I THINK WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT HEAD SHOTS AGAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND HAVE SO, UH, SO DO DOMAIN OF THAT.
WELL, JUST REAL BRIEFLY, I'M SORRY.
UM, I BELIEVE YOU WOULD POSSIBLY NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IF YOU MAKE THE DECISION TO, UM, MAKE AMENDMENTS TO, UH, THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
YOU MAY WANT TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING WITH THE TURS, UM, TO MAKE A DECISION ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE THE FUNDING ALLOCATED SO IT CAN BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION.
UH, TORY, UM, MR. GILLERY, WE WILL SCHEDULE HIS APPOINTMENT TO GET HIS HEADSHOT TAKEN.
IN REGARD TO THE WEBSITE ITSELF IN-HOUSE, OUR MRS. TIANA JOHNSON, SHE IS WORKING ON OUR OWN PERSONAL WEBSITE.
WE ARE STILL IN, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN WHO CREATED THEIR ORIGINAL WEBSITE.
WE DO NOT HAVE AN UPDATE AS OF RIGHT NOW TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD, BUT WE WILL HAVE ONE AT THE NEXT TS MEETING IN REGARD TO THE PREVIOUS WEBSITE.
UM, BUT THE NEW ONE SHOULD BE UP AND RUNNING, I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.
SO, UH, ON THAT WEBSITE, THE PREVIOUS, UH, WEB DESIGNER, UM, I MEAN WE CAN JUST SCRAP THAT TO KEEP MOVING.
I MEAN, IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T ENOUGH ENOUGH TANGIBLE INFORMATION THAT HE WAS GONNA PROVIDE.
SO THAT IS WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT.
UM, JUDGE GUILLORY, WE JUST HAVEN'T MADE A FINAL DECISION IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OF HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD TO BRING IT BACK TO THE TS BOARD.
BUT I WILL HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU VERY SHORTLY.
BUT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, PAST THE PREVIOUS WEBSITE AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BRAND NEW WITH ONE THAT'S MORE INVITING AND INCLUSIVE TO ALL THE NEW IDEAS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON.
AND MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN LOOK INTO FILING A, A, UM, A CIVIL MATTER TO COLLECT THE MON MONEY THAT WE PAID HIM FOR AN INCOMPLETE PROJECT.
ALRIGHT, I WILL BRING HER UP TO DATE.
GOOD, GOOD, GOOD CONVERSATION.
UH, GUYS, TORY, UH, UH, D CITY ATTORNEY, PAM, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS MEETING? YOU GOT ANYTHING TORY? NO.
ALRIGHT GUYS, WE, WE ARE COMPLETED.
WE'VE BEEN HERE RIGHT IN AN HOUR.
SO, UH, NOW WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
THIS THIRD MEETING, NUMBER ONE MOVED.
IT IS MOVED A SECOND THAT WE ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 3 23.
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A.
THOSE A OPPOSED, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.