* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. YOU READY? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, [II. Call to Order] [00:00:02] LET'S SEE WHAT TIME. IT'S 5 35. OKAY. THE TIME IS 5:35 PM WE'RE HERE TO HAVE A MEETING FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. AND SO WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT THIS TIME. ROLL CALL JOHNNY BROWN. PRESENT ROSALYN QUEEN. PRESENT. SILA . PRESENT. DWIGHT WAGNER. PRESENT. OKAY. [IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] WE'LL NOW GO INTO APPROVAL OF MINUTES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR A COMMENT? MOVED? I SECOND BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. UM, FOR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE KNOWS I HAVE IT. [VI. NEW BUSINESS - PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS] AND SO NOW WE'LL GO TO NEW BUSINESS PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS AND STAFF. YES SIR. FIRST WE HAVE CASE NUMBER R 24 17. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS MARK MOORE, GERALD NEAL AND JANA NEAL. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 22 0 7 60 FIRST STREET, JK PARCEL NUMBER 8 5 7 5 7 AND 8 5 7 4 5. AND IT'S A REQUEST. THE REQUEST TYPE IS AN APPROVAL OF A REPL IN PORT ACRES. THE PLANNING IS ZONING. COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A REPL REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING, A PORTION OF LOT 13 BLOCK SIX PORT ACRES. CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE NEW TRACK NAME TRACKS 13 A AND 13 B REPL OF A PORTION OF LOT 13 BLOCK SIX PORT ACRES. CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE LOT DIMENSIONS ARE 169 FEET BY 98.47 FEE TOTALING 16641.43 SQUARE FEET, TOTAL ACRES 0.383 ACRES OF LAND. THE CURRENT ZONING IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE ABUTTING ZONES NORTH, SOUTHEAST, AND WEST ARE ALL LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPL IS TO REDEFINE THE PROPERTY LINE. AN APPLICATION FOR A REPL WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON JUNE 19TH, 2024. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPL IS TO REDEFINE THE PROPERTY LINE ON FRIDAY, JUNE 28TH, 2020 4 21. NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PNZ PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY, JULY 15TH, 2024. AS OF TODAY, JULY 15TH, 2024, WE DID HAVE ONE LETTER OF, UM, OPPOSITION THAT I WILL READ INTO RECORD. DEAR CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, I AM, I AM UNABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING. PLEASE DO NOT EXTEND THE TRAILER COURT ANYMORE. IT LOOKS HORRIBLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MY HUSBAND HAS PASSED, BUT DURING HIS ILLNESS, THE TRAILER COURT KEEPS, KEEP HIM UP MANY TIMES WITH VERY LOUD TRUCKS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM OUR HOME. PLEASE DON'T. DARLENE ROSE 2261ST STREET AND THAT'S ALL COMMISSIONERS. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK? COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. WHEN YOU SAID TRAILER PARK, THAT HIT A NOTE? YES, MA'AM. UM, ARE WE EXPANDING? SEE, BECAUSE THE WAY THESE PICTURES MM-HMM. HERE CHANGED ON US HERE. THAT'S OUR NEW SYSTEM. I KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW IF I LIKE IT, BUT THESE 15 DOTS ARE THE HOMES THAT, THAT RECEIVE LETTERS? YES MA'AM. OKAY. SO THE, THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE ASKING TO REPL, IS IT THE LONG ONE OR THE SQUARE? SO THEY WANNA TAKE A PORTION OF THAT LONG ONE, WHICH IS WHERE THE A A PORTION OF THE RV PARK SITS AND THEIR PROPERTY IS SO CLOSE TO THE LINE, THEY JUST WANNA SHIFT THE LINE OVER SLIGHTLY. SO IT'S A HOME, IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME RIGHT NEXT TO THAT RV PARK. SO THAT SMALLER BLOCK IS THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THAT LONGER ONE IS A PORTION OF THAT RV PARK. AND SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY, THEY'VE GOTTEN TOGETHER AND THEY WANT TO JUST, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS, IT'S BUILT SO CLOSE TO THE LOT LINE. THEY JUST WANT TO SHIFT IT OVER SOME. UM, SO THE, THE HOMEOWNER OF THE PIECE OF LAND THAT IS, ARE THEY APPROVING THE LINE TO BE SHIPPED? WELL, YEAH, THEY, UM, WE HAVE BOTH, UH, COPIES OF THE DEEDS ON RECORD. THEY'VE COMMUNICATED WITH THE SURVEYORS. OUR JOB IS JUST TO APPROVE OR DENY, BUT, UM, THEY'VE ALREADY COMMUNICATED WITH ONE ANOTHER AND I SPOKE TO THE, UM, SURVEYORS MYSELF AND THAT'S THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY CAME TO WITH THEIR APPLICATION AND THEY'RE JUST FILING TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY LINE MOVED. IS THAT IN WRITING MA'AM? IS THAT IN WRITING? YES MA'AM. IT'S ON THE, EVERYTHING IS LEGAL AND IT'S IN WRITING. IT'S ON THE APPLICATION AND EVERYTHING. OKAY. YES MA'AM. [00:05:01] SO LET ME, SO SO WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF REDEFINING IT? REDEFINING, IT'S JUST SHIFTING THAT LINE JUST SO THEY CAN HAVE MORE SPACE AND BE SOAK B WELL THEY WON'T BE ON TOP OF THAT PROPERTY LINE. LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROP, THE AREA VIEW, AND WE DO APOLOGIZE. UM, ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS WAS OUT, UM, FOR PERSONAL REASONS. SO WE WERE, WE DID USE THE NEWER SYSTEM, BUT IF YOU SEE THAT HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS, I CAN'T THE HOUSE RIGHT TO THIS FENCE. MM-HMM. . AND THAT'S PARK. SO THEY'RE GIVING THEM SO MUCH OF THAT LAND ON SIDE SO THEIR PROPERTY WILL NOT GET SO CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY. SO WHO'S GETTING MORE LAND? THE PROPERTY, THE HOUSE, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, NOT THE, UH, HOME IS EXTENDING. THEY'RE TAKING SOME OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE MOBILE HOME FARM. YES MA'AM. NOT BACKWARDS, RIGHT? YES MA'AM. SO THE PROP, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME WOULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM IT. IT, LARRY, COULD YOU GO BACK DOWN TO THE SURVEY? I THINK YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SURVEYS. THE LINE THERE. THE ORIGINAL LOT LINE? YES. THANK YOU. THERE'S THE ORIGINAL LINE RIGHT HERE. THAT'S THE ORIGINAL LINE. THAT DOTED LINE. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? YES, I HAVE ONE. YES SIR. SO THE, THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE ANNEXED THERE MM-HMM THAT YOU COULD ONLY BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNER? YES SIR. YOU COULD NOT EXTEND THE, THE TRAILER PARK AREA. OH NO SIR. ONTO THAT PROPERTY. NO SIR. OKAY. MM-HMM, . OKAY. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY GIVING THE TRAILER PLACE MORE LAND OR ARE THEY GETTING LESS LAND? THE PROP, THE SINGLE, THE PROPERTY WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS GETTING MORE LAND. THEY'RE GETTING A PIECE OF LAND, A PORTION OF THE LAND FROM THE TRAILER HOME, FROM THE, FROM THE RV PARK IS WHAT IT IS. SO THE RV PARK IS THE OWNER OF A PART OF THE LAND THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS RECEIVING OR THEY JUST GONNA MAKE IT BE EXACTLY ON THE LINE? NO, THEY ARE ADJUSTING IT. SO IT WON'T, WILL NOT BE EXACTLY ON THE LINE AGAIN, THAT DOTTED LINE, THAT'S THE ORIGINAL LINE. MM-HMM. . AND THEN YOU SEE THAT BOW LINE RIGHT ON THE SIDE OF IT. SO THERE THE RV PARK IS ACTUALLY GIVING THEM A PORTION OF THAT LINE. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME WILL BE THE ONES TO BENEFIT MORE FROM IT. HOW MUCH LAND ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE, DO YOU KNOW? UM, I DON'T, IT MAY BE ON THE SURVEY. UM, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, I THINK IT SAYS LIKE 11 SQUARE FEET. YEAH. IT'S NOT BY MUCH I MEAN 11 FEET, RIGHT. IS WHAT THEY'RE EXTENDING. I KNOW IT'S NOT BY MUCH, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AREA VIEW, THE UH, PROPERTY DOES SIT RIGHT ON TOP OF THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO SET, UM, SET IT BACK FROM THE SIDE SO MUCH. SO A LITTLE OVER 11 FEET. YEAH, JUST A LITTLE OVER 11 FEET TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNER. SO ONE LAST QUESTION PLEASE, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. SO THE PERSON WHO WROTE THE LETTER IN OPPOSITION MM-HMM. APPARENTLY IS MISINFORMED THINKING THAT THIS PROPERTY WILL ALLOW THE RV PARK DEVELOPERS TO EXPAND ONTO THAT PROPERTY. IS THAT WHAT THIS LETTER I BELIEVE SO THAT PERSON IS THINKING AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WON'T TAKE PLACE, RIGHT? IT WILL THAT TAKE PLACE? YES SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. Y'ALL READY FOR THE PUBLIC? YES. TO PARTICIPATE AND AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, AND I ALSO WANNA REMIND THE PUBLIC, UH, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK THAT WHEN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE, IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ALSO YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. ANYONE HERE FIRST CALL WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS, UH, THIS, THIS ITEM. SECOND CALL. ANYONE HERE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR THIS ITEM THIRD CALL. ANYONE HERE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR THIS ITEM. NOW WE'LL GO TO THE OPPOSITION COMMENTS IF THERE'S ANY. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISH TO SPEAK AN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM? SECOND CALL. THIRD CALL. ANYONE HERE WHO WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I APOLOGIZE FOR MY PHOTOS. EVERYTHING WAS GATED SO I WAS TRYING TO GET THE BEST PHOTOS THAT I CAN FOR THIS. UM, FL EXPLAINING IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE UNDERSTOOD IT BETTER. OKAY, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ITEM. OUR 24 18. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS GILBERTO ANTONIO RODRIGUEZ. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 37 25 AND 37 31 PROCTOR STREET, JCAD PARCEL NUMBER 2 6 4 3 5 AND 2 6 4 3 6. THE REQUEST TYPE IS AN APPROVAL OF A REPL IN THE DEL MAR EDITION. THE PLANNING IS ZONING. THE COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A REPL REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING ALL LOT 17 AND 18. BLOCK EIGHT DELMAR EDITION, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE NEW TRACK NAME TRACK 17 DASH EIGHT, ALL OF LOT [00:10:01] 17 AND 18. BLOCK EIGHT DELMAR EDITION. CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE DI, THE LOT DIMENSIONS ARE 135 FEET BY 100 POINT 17 FEET TOTALING INTO 13522.95 SQUARE FEET. THE TOTAL ACREAGE IS 0.3116 ACRES OF LAND. THE CURRENT ZONING IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE ABUTTING ZONES NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST ARE ALL MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPL IS TO COMBINE TWO LOT INTO ONE TRACK FOR AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING. AN APPLICATION FOR A REPL WAS SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, I MEAN TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON JUNE 20TH, 2024. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPLAY IS TO COMBINE TWO LIVES INTO ONE TRACK FOR EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON FRIDAY, JUNE 28TH, 2020 4, 35. NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN A PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PNZ PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY, JULY 15TH, 2024. AND THAT'S ALL COMMISSIONERS. OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I HERE ON THE, THE, UH, SHEET WHERE YOU'RE SHOWING THE 35 APPARENTLY RESIDENCE HOMES AND THEY'RE ALL WITHIN THE 200 FEET. SOME OF 'EM LOOK PRETTY OUT AND THAT'S THE, THAT DATA WILL BE ACCURATE. IT'S FROM OUR UM, GIS INTO SYSTEM. SO, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHAT POPULATED WHEN WE PUT THE 200 SQUARE FEET IN, WE NEVER HAD 35 PEOPLE GET A LETTER ABOUT ANYTHING, TO BE HONEST. I KNOW I'M BEING, I GUESS IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW FAR EVERYTHING'S SPREAD OUT. SO NOW THIS, THESE HOMES YES MA'AM. THE PROPERTY OWNER ARE TO THE PICTURE NOW. MM-HMM? . THEY OWN BOTH HOMES? UM, 37? YES MA'AM. THEY OWN BOTH HOMES. OKAY. AND THEY ARE IN A TWO FAMILY DISTRICT SO YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE TWO HOMES ON ONE LOT. RIGHT. OKAY. AND A TWO FAMILY DISTRICT. SO THEY DO HAVE TWO HOMES ON THIS ONE LOT. OKAY, WELL THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO ADDRESSES NOW, BUT THEY'RE REPLANTING IT TO MAKE IT ONE, SO. OH, OKAY. YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING, UH, PORTION OF THIS, UH, UH, ITEM, UH, STARTING WITH ANYONE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? THIRD CALL. ANYONE HEAR WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? NOW WE'LL GO TO THE OPPOSITION. ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN, IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? SECOND CALL. THIRD CALL. ANYONE HERE WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE CONTINUE. YES, SIR. R 24 19 PROPERTY OWNER ROY ESTATES LLC. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2249 GULF 40 DRIVE, J CAD PARCEL NUMBER 9 9 1 3 8 0. THE REQUEST TYPE IS AN APPROVAL OF A REPL IN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A REPL REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING, A REPL OF LOTS 11 AND 12 BLOCK 346. CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE NEW TRACK NAME TRACK 11 DASH A A REPL OF LOTS, 11 AND 12 BLOCK 3 46. CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE LOT DIMENSIONS ARE 100 FEET BY 140 FEET TOTALING INTO 14,039 SQUARE FEET. TOTAL ACREAGE 0.3, 2 1 9 ACRES OF LAND. THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL. THE ABUTTING ZONE WEST IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NORTH, SOUTH, AND EAST ARE ALL COMMERCIAL RETAIL. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPLANT IS TO COMBINE TWO LOTS INTO ONE TRACK FOR METAL BUILDING AND PERSONAL STORAGE. AN APPLICATION FOR A REPL WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON JUNE 21ST, 2024. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPLAY IS TO COMBINE TWO LOT INTO ONE TRACK FOR A METAL BUILDING AND PERSONAL STORAGE. AND UM, LET ME DO STATE THIS FOR THE RECORD. WE DID SPEAK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THUS THE METAL BUILDING IS ACTUALLY FOR HIS TAX OFFICE AND HIS OWN PERSONAL STORAGE. SO I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. UM, WE'VE SPOKEN TO HIM A FEW TIMES AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU. GO FOR YOU ALL IN THE RECORD. ON FRIDAY, JUNE 28TH, 2024 18, NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER, A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PNZ PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY, JULY 15TH, 2024. AND THAT'S ALL COMMISSIONERS. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE ONE. SO THE PRO THE BUILDING IS ALREADY [00:15:01] THERE. IS THAT NO SIR. THE SITUATION OR WHAT? UM, THE LOT IS ACTUALLY EMPTY. YOU SEE THE, THAT'S THE, UM, LOT. IT'S RIGHT BY THAT DOLLAR GENERAL ON GUFF WAY. OH, OKAY. IN BLUE BARN. OKAY. OTHER COMMENTS? IT ACROSS THE STREET, UM, FROM THE DOLLAR GENERAL? YEAH, IT'S ACROSS THE SIDE STREET, NOT ACROSS GUFF WAY, BUT THAT SIDE STREET, IT'S LIKE A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND THEN IT'S ON THE CORNER OF GOWAY. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IS GOWAY AND LIBERTY. OH. MM-HMM? . SEE THERE'S A DOLLAR GENERAL THERE. MM-HMM. LOOK, IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE MAP. YOU SEE WHERE IT'S RED? IT SAYS DOLLAR GENERAL. OKAY, I SEE WHERE YOU ARE. MM-HMM, . OKAY. OKAY. OH, THERE. IT'S THE DOLLAR GENERAL. MM-HMM. . AND SO IF I HEARD RIGHT, THERE WERE NO, UH, LETTERS OR COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION? NO SIR. NO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION OR NO LETTERS OF OF BEING FOR IT. MR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC? I'LL NOW OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC AND AGAIN, REITERATE IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK, YOU'LL NEED TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, CURRENT ADDRESS WHERE YOU LIVE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? PLEASE COME FORWARD. SIR, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. HI, FINE, HOW ARE YOU? I'M ROMAN ROY ON ROY ESTATES. UH, I KNOW A LOT OF Y'ALL FROM WHEN Y WAS YOUNGER. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME. I'M NERVOUS EVERYTHING, BUT DON'T BE NERVOUS. NO, NO, NO WORRIES. UM, BASICALLY I'M IN FAVOR OF BUILDING THE BUILDING AND BRINGING MY OFFICE BACK TO PORT ARTHUR. I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1999 WITH MULTIPLE BUSINESSES, TAX OFFICES, SO A LOT OF STUFF. I WANNA BRING JOBS BACK TO PORT ARTHUR. I HAVE MAYBE OVER 36, 47 EMPLOYEES ALREADY. BUT THE JOB IS TO BRING PEOPLE BACK 'CAUSE I'M IN GROVE RIGHT NOW. OH. AND UM, I HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTIES ALL OVER THIS AREA, CON ROAD AND NO OVERSEAS, BUT I WANT TO BASICALLY TRY TO BRING SOME ACTUAL JOBS TO PORT ARTHUR AND ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE. UH, THAT'S MY MAIN INTENT, MAIN GO. UH, WHERE MY OFFICE SPACE, I'M NOT GONNA HAVE LIKE HUGE OFFICES IN PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND IN THERE, BUT BASICALLY IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY MUCH CENTRALIZED, CENTRALIZED ON GULF WAY IN HERE. SO I'M BACK IN TIME. OKAY. BUT I'M IN FAVOR. OKAY. CAN I ASK YOU WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS ARE YOU IN? UH, TAX PREPARATION, UH, ACCOUNTING, UH, CONSTRUCTION, A LOT OF THING. BUT BASICALLY MY OFFICE IS TO MAINTAIN ALL MY BUSINESSES IN ONE CENTRAL PLACE WITH THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES. BUT BASICALLY GIVING OUT JOBS AND STUFF. LIKE WITH SAY IF I'M DOING CONSTRUCTION, I CAN HIRE PEOPLE AND THEY CAN COME THERE AND GET A JOB IN A PEACEFUL ENVIRONMENT. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE A COMMENT? I JUST WANNA SAY, I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL OF US WHEN I SAY WE COMMEND YOU FOR WANTING TO BRING YOUR BUSINESS BACK INTO THE CITY LIMITS OF FOR ARTHUR. THANK YOU SIR. AND HELPING TO, UH, WITH OUR EMPLOYMENT RATE HERE. I THINK THAT'S REMARKABLE. YES SIR. ARE YOU FROM HERE? MAY I ASK? BORN AND RAISED. OKAY. OKAY. GRADUATED IN 1994, LINCOLN ALUMNI. OKAY. OKAY. WENT TO LAMAR, GOT MY, UH, THREE DEGREES ACADEMIC STUDIES, SIGNED SOME MATH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE. I DIDN'T ACCELERATE NONE OF THOSE, BUT I GOT. BUT I DON'T KNOW. I MAKE SOME GOOD MONEY, ESPECIALLY EMPLOYING PEOPLE. THANK YOU. AWESOME. WELL, AND I LIKE YOUR SHIRT. OH, THANK YOU . I, I WANT TO, UH, ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH, UH, WHAT, UH, MR. WAGNER JUST SAID, UH, IN PRIDE AND UH, ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND, EXPERIENCES AND SUCCESS THAT YOU'VE ENJOYED ALREADY, BUT ALSO YOUR INTEREST IN BEING PART OF THE PORT ARTHUR COMMUNITY FOR HELPING TO BUILD OP, OP OFFER, OFFER OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIZENS, UH, FOR WORK. AND I ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR APPROACH AND YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MADE ME THINK I'M SOMEBODY SITTING UP HERE. SOMEBODY, YOU COMMANDED THE WHOLE ROOM, . NO, REALLY? I PROUD OF YOU. THANKFUL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT. I'M A BUSINESS OWNER AS WELL. I'M VERY BUSINESS FRIENDLY. UH, SO I APPRECIATE YOU SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LEAVING. WELL AND THANK GOD, YOU KNOW, YOU STILL HAVE VISION THAT YES. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BIG COMMUNITY TO SERVE. SO I APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK TO COURT. THANK YOU. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY'RE JUST BEING SELFISH. THEY CARE ABOUT THE MONEY AND EVERYTHING. BUT IF WE DON'T HELP PORT ARTHUR GROW, I MEAN, LOOK AT WHERE WE GONNA BE. AND I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT LAMAR, YOU YES. I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. I DID A WHOLE BUNCH OF THOSE COMMERCIALS AND, YEAH. YEAH. GREAT. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? THIRD CALL. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? LET'S GO TO OPPOSITION. ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS ITEM? SECOND CALL. THIRD [00:20:01] CALL. ANYONE HERE WE SPEAK AGAINST THIS ITEM THAT CONCLUDES, UM, OUR, UH, OUR PUBLIC, UM, PORTION OF THE MEETING. IF WE HEAR A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I MOVE CLOSE, REMOVE. AND SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR AND SAY AYE. A I OPPOSED? NO. ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE NOW TO THE, UM, ACTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED STARTING WITH, UH, R 24 17. WE ACCEPT THEM ALL. WELL, YES SIR. I LIKE THAT POINT. SO, SO, SO GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE REQUEST FOR REPLANTING OF ALL THREE OF THESE THAT WERE BROUGHT TO US TODAY. YOU'D HAVE TO NAME THEM INDIVIDUALLY. OH, I HAVE TO NAME THEM. OKAY. YEAH. UM, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT CASE NUMBER R 24 DASH 17 AND ALSO CASE NUMBER R 24 DASH 18. AND CASE NUMBER R 24 DASH 19. YES SIR. I SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER WAGNER. UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ZIMA ESCOBIDO. UH, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? UH, ALRIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A. AYE. NAY. ALLS. AYES HAVE IT. NEXT [VII. NEW BUSINESS - NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS] IS, UH, ANY NEW BUSINESS OR REPORTS, UH, STAFF? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHTY. COMMISSIONERS IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU HAVE OUR PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT THAT WILL HAVE TO BE INITIATED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. UM, AFTER SPEAKING WITH MY MANAGER AND MY DIRECTOR ON, UM, SEVERAL DIFFERENT OCCASIONS, WE FINALLY CA CAME UP WITH, UM, UH, ATTENTIVE ZONING MAP CHANGE. SO IT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE. UM, WE WILL GIVE THE PUBLIC 30 DAYS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS 30 DAYS TO, UM, COMMENT AND GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK AND SUGGESTIONS ON THE CHANGE. THE CHANGE CAME ABOUT AFTER WE NOTICED, UM, SOME PROPERTY OWNERS WERE COMING INTO TOWN ASKING, UM, ABOUT THEIR PROPERTIES AND WHY IT WAS REZONED FROM, UM, WHERE, WHERE RESIDENTIAL COULD ONCE DEVELOP INTO COMMERCIAL GENERAL. SO IT DID RAISE A RED FLAG ONCE WE REVIEWED THE ORDINANCE AND THE ZONING MAP AND, UM, WE DID FIND AN ISSUE. SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL HAVE TO INITIATE THE ZONE CHANGE. 'CAUSE YOU COULD, FOR EXAMPLE, AS WE, UM, GIVE MANY PEOPLE THAT COME IN, SOMEONE COULD LITERALLY COME IN RIGHT NOW AND PUT, MY FAVORITE EXAMPLE IS A CONCRETE PLANT RIGHT NEXT TO SOMEBODY'S BEAUTIFUL $3,000, $300,000 BEACH HOME. AND WE, THAT CAN STIR UP SOME ISSUES . SO, UM, YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. UM, WHERE YOU SEE THE EXISTING ZONING RIGHT NOW, THAT TILL LOOKING BLUE IS ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT AND IT'S ZONES WHERE ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL BUSINESS CAN TAKE PLACE IN THE AREA AS OF RIGHT NOW. AND WHAT YOU SEE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS TO CHANGE IT BACK TO A TWO FAMILY DISTRICT. UM, WE WILL KEEP THAT AG AREA RIGHT THERE. UM, ZONE IS AG, WHICH IS AGRICULTURAL BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE AN RV PARK TO BE BUILT THERE A FEW YEARS AGO. I'M NOT REALLY QUITE FAMILIAR, FAMILIAR WITH THE YEAR THAT IT CHANGED LARRY, ARE YOU? NO. NO. OKAY. BUT THEY DID, CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE FOR, UM, AN RV PARK TO BE THERE. SO THAT'S GONNA REMAIN THE SAME. AND RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM, AND YOU CAN SEE WHY I PUT SOME NOTES. UM, WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT AND MAKE THAT A PD PROPOSAL TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WE TURN IT INTO A PD BECAUSE THERE ARE ALSO, THERE ARE SOME SMALL BUSINESSES RIGHT THERE. AND ONE OF THE BUSINESSES, UM, DO PLAN ON CONTINUING THEIR COMMERCIAL WORK, WHICH IT, IT, IT HAS ALWAYS DONE, UM, AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL. AND ANOTHER PROPOSED IDEA IS TO AT CABIN CABINS IN THAT AREA AS WELL. SO WE WILL DESIGN A PD, UM, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SERVE THAT, UM, AREA THAT WHERE YOU SEE I WROTE PD ON THE MAP. SO AS OF NOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE. BUT IT IS, WE ARE, WE'RE GONNA WAIT FOR THAT PUBLIC COMMENT. AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND IT DOES HAVE TO GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL. BUT AS IT CHANGES, UM, WE'RE GONNA KEEP YOU POSTED FOR SURE. SO BEFORE WE EVEN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND BRING IT, UM, AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, WE WANTED TO INFORM YOU ALL OF WHAT'S GETTING READY TO TAKE PLACE. OKAY. COMMENTS, COMMISSIONS OR QUESTIONS? THE PD. MM-HMM? ? YEAH. THE PD AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP. MM-HMM. , HOW FAR IS THAT FROM THE FOOT OF THE BRIDGE WHEN YOU MENTIONED CABINS? MM-HMM. . [00:25:01] I KNOW ONCE UPON A TIME WE HAD SOME PLEASURE ISLAND CABINET CABINS NEXT TO THAT LITTLE STORE OUT THERE. ARE THEY STILL IN EXISTENCE? I DON'T KNOW. THEY, IT IS VERY, THIS AREA IS VERY CLOSE TO THAT BRIDGE. OKAY. SO THE CABINS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, WHERE WOULD THEY BE CONSTRUCTED? UM, THAT PART I DO NOT KNOW. THE PROPERTY OWNER DID MAKE THE COMMENT THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AS FAR AS ANY PLANS OR ANY RENDERINGS. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AS, AS OF YET. BUT WE WILL DESIGN THE PD SO THAT HE CAN INCLUDE THAT INSIDE HIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, SIR. SO THE PLAN D WOULD BE SITTING RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE COMMERCIAL MA'AM? THE PLANNING. THE PLANNING, THE PD. MM-HMM. WELL THAT IT WILL INCLUDE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AS WELL. OH YES MA'AM. IT'S ALREADY AN OPERATING BUSINESS. HE JUST WANTS TO INCLUDE THE CABINS AS WELL. MM-HMM, . OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW THIS LITTLE BLOCK IS, UH, ALL JUST MD THAT'S THE ONLY AREA THAT PEOPLE COULD HAVE PUT THE HOMES IN. THAT'S IN THE EXISTING ZONING. THE EXISTING ZONING. RIGHT NOW THEY CAN'T PUT ANY HOMES. THEY CAN'T NOT RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY, UM, HOMES BUILT IN COMMERCIAL GENERAL. THAT'S WHY WE'RE CHANGING IT. UM, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. WE DID HAVE SOMEONE A COUPLE DRIVE IN FROM ATLANTA, GEORGIA, AND THEY WERE, THEIR PLAN IS TO RETIRE THERE. WELL, THEY'VE BEEN SAVING FOR THE, THEY HAD PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND THEY'VE BEEN SAVING FOR YEARS, BUT SINCE THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANY DEVELOPMENTS AND THE ORDINANCE CHANGED, THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM BUILDING THAT HOUSE THAT THEY'VE BEEN SAVING FOR YEARS TO BUILD THEIR RETIREMENT HOME ON. SO WE'VE GOTTEN PLENTY OF CALLS LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S WHY WE FELT IT WAS, IT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS THAT WE FELT NECESSARY TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE OTHER THAN WE DON'T WANT A CONCRETE PLANT TO COME BE BUILT ON THE SIDE OF A MILLION DOLLAR PROPERTY RESIDENTS PROPERTY. WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME FOR THE NEXT STEPS? UM, WE WILL, UM, I'M HAVE TO GIVE HIM MY DIRECTOR AND LARRY ON THAT, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE WILL HAVE IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. WE JUST WANTED TO OH, HERE COMES LARRY. SO I'LL LET HIM SPEAK ON IT. , GO AHEAD. . LARRY. YES. UH, AS, AS LARRY SAID, WE WILL BE, UH, CON WELL WE FIRST HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING. I THINK IT MIGHT BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT CENTER AS WE CAN'T FIND ANY PLACE ON PLEASURE ISLAND THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO HOLD A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE. IF THEY, IF THEY DO, WE'RE GONNA DO IT AS A ZOOM ALSO TO ALLOW PEOPLE THAT'S OUTTA STATE TO, TO UH, BE A PART OF THE MEETING. AND THAT WILL BE COMING UP SOON. THEN AFTER THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO WAIT 30, 30 DAYS, I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED, UH, BEFORE WE CAN, UH, COME TO YOU FOR, UH, APPROVAL. AND THEN IT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WILL TAKE ANOTHER MAYBE 20, 20 DAYS BEFORE THEN. SO SOMEWHERE IN THE SUMMER BEGINNING OF, UH, OF, OF, OF, UH, AUTUMN THAT WE'LL HAVE, UH, THIS COMPLETELY TAKEN CARE OF. HOPEFULLY WE'RE LOOKING AT SEPTEMBER EPTEMBER, I WOULD SAY LONGER. SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. THE TYPICAL ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TAKES ABOUT 90 DAYS. AND SO OUR DIRECTOR AND MANAGER WANTS US TO GIVE THEM A LONGER PERIOD TO COMMENT. NORMALLY WE GIVE THEM 15 DAYS. OKAY. BUT WITH THIS, UM, BEING A ZONE CHANGE THAT WE, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE TO INITIATE, SHE DOES WANT TO ALLOW A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME FOR COMMENT. WE HAD ACTUALLY MADE, UH, THESE REQUESTS WHEN THE DON ORDINANCE WOULD, WAS FIRST INITIATED, BUT SOMEHOW OUR, UH, CONSULTANTS NEGLECTED TO CHANGE THAT AREA AND WE NEGLECTED TO CATCH ON TO IT UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE. SO WE, AND, AND AS AN ALL NEW ORDINANCE, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ALL THE TIME IN ORDER TO FIT. EVERYTHING JUST DOESN'T FIT LIKE YOU THINK IS GONNA FIT AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES. SO THESE, THESE ARE ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE GONNA MAKE. SO AS IT STANDS, NOTHING CAN BE BUILT HERE. JUST GENERAL, JUST COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY CAN BE PUT IN THAT SPOT. THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL, NO RESIDENCE, NO RESIDENCES AT ALL, NO HOMES, NO NOTHING. AND PEOPLE, LIKE SHE SAID, SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CALLING BECAUSE THEY HAD BOUGHT IT YEARS AGO AND WANTED TO RETIRE THERE. AND THEN NOW THEY COME BACK, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT? AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING SINCE DECEMBER FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. AND I KNOW WE KEPT COMING TO YOU TELLING YOU, YOU IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. SO FINALLY WE'VE GOTTEN EVERYTHING IN ORDER. SO, UH, IT'LL HAPPEN AND THEY CAN BUILD THEIR HOMES HOPEFULLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOSS. ANY OTHER COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER? ALRIGHT, WHAT ABOUT ANY OTHER REPORTS? I [00:30:01] DO NOT BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A MEETING ON AUGUST 5TH. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY APPLICATIONS THAT CAME IN OR ANYTHING, SO. YES SIR. I'M GONNA BE OUTTA TOWN ANYWAY. NOT, YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICATIONS. PUT YOU TOO FAR BACK IN AUGUST 'CAUSE I'LL BE ON A CRUISE SHIP. OH, AND THE DEADLINE FOR APPLICATIONS FOR THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE TODAY AT FIVE AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING. SO AUGUST 5TH IS FREE. OKAY, GOOD. YES, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. . OKAY. SO ANY, ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER, SO THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SAY AT THIS TIME? IF NOT, WE'LL HEAR A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. I MOVE. ALRIGHT, I SECOND. ALRIGHT, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY DR. QUEEN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WAGNER THAT WE ADJOURN. ANY COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. I'LL OPPOSE NONE. HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND AND WEAK. NO MORE STORMS. HOPEFULLY NOT. DID YOU CALL THE MEETING FOR, WHAT TIME DID IT END? . . ALRIGHT. WE USE ADJOURNED AT 6:05 PM THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.