* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. EVERYBODY SHOULD [00:00:01] BE ABLE TO DO THIS. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS [II. Call to Order] THE, UH, REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. TODAY IS JUNE 17TH. THE TIME IS FIVE 30. MEETING HAS BEEN CALLED TO ORDER ROLL CALL S PRESENT. DWIGHT WAGNER, PRESENT. ROSALYN QUEEN. PRESENT. WE HAVE A FORUM. WE NEED [IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] TO HAVE APPROVAL OF THE LAST MONTH'S MEETING MINUTES. HOWEVER, THE MINUTES HAD TO HAVE A CORRECTION PUT IN IT. SO IF YOU NEED TO REVIEW IT, PLEASE DO SO. I THINK SHE SAID IT WAS JUST SOMETHING TOWARD THE END. YEAH. AT THE CLOSING. SHE HAD PUT YOU DOWN AND YOU WEREN'T HERE ON A VOTE, SO SHE HAD TO CORRECT IT. SO, OKAY. WELL, I, I MAKE A MOVE THAT WE APPROVE, UH, MINUTES WITH THE CORRECTION. I SECOND. OKAY. THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED. AND SECOND DWIGHT WAGNER APPROVED AND ES ESCOBIDO. SECOND. IS THERE ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS? NO. COULD BE. SHOULD WE VOTE NOT ON UN UNFINISHED? NO. THE MINUTES WE DID. YOU SAID IT. YEAH, BUT WE DIDN'T VOTE. WE DID. WE DIDN'T. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? APPROVING THE MINUTES. THE CORRECTED MINUTES? OKAY. AYE. OKAY. NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS. [VI. NEW BUSINESS - PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS] NEW BUSINESS, MR. BUCK. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS LEGACY CDC, TENDER LOVING CARE FOR CHILDREN. UH, THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED AT 33 49 40 FIRST FIRST STREET, JCAD PARCEL NUMBER 98 0 77. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A REPLANT REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING, ALL OF LOT 16 THROUGH 18. BLOCK NINE, ROSEMONT SUBDIVISION, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE NEW TRACK NAME IS TRACK 16 A, A REPLAY OF ALL LOTS 16 THROUGH 18. BLOCK NINE. ROSEMONT SUBDIVISION, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE LOT DIMENSIONS ARE 75 FEET BY 140 FEET, WHICH EQUALS UH, 10,500 SQUARE FEET. TOTAL ACREAGE IS 0.2400 ACRE OF LAND. UH, THE CURRENT ZONING IS MEDIUM DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL ABUTTING ZONING IS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST. MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR FUTURE LAND USE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPL, UH, IS TO COMBINE THREE LOTS INTO ONE TRACK FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE THIS CORRECTION THAT THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SHOULD SAY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. YES, IN ACCORDING, UH, UH, AN APPLICATION FOR A REPLANT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON MAY 21ST, 2024 ON FRIDAY, MAY 31ST, 2024, 20 NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING. TODAY JUNE 17TH, 2024. THAT'S IT. COMMISSIONER, BEFORE I ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT FOR OR A STATEMENT AGAINST. OTHERWISE, COMMISSIONERS, NO QUESTIONS. YOU MOVED TO THE NEXT THANK YOU. THIS IS R 24 DASH 15. UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SHAHADA SPATES. UH, PROPERTY'S LOCATED 38 0 1 40 FIRST STREET, PARCEL NUMBER 98 1 24. UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A REPLANT REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING. ALL OF LOTS. 9 3 11 BLOCK 14, ROSEMONT SUBDIVISION, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THE NEW TRACK NAME IS TRACK NINE. A REPLAY OF ALL LOTS NINE THROUGH 11. BLOCK 14. ROSEMONT SUBDIVISION, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. LOT DIMENSIONS ARE 75 FEET BY 140 FEET, WHICH IS 10,500 SQUARE FEET. TOTAL ACREAGE IS 0.24 10 ACRES OF LAND. CURRENT ZONING IS MEDIUM DENSITY. RESIDENTIAL ABUTTING ZONING IS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL COM. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR FUTURE LAND USE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THE PURPOSE OF THE REPL IS TO COMBINE THREE LOTS INTO ONE TRACK FOR EXISTING MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING. AN APPLICATION FOR REPL WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE ON PLANNING AND ZONING ON MAY 21ST, 2024 ON FRIDAY, MAY, MAY 31ST, 2024 11 NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PNZ PUBLIC MEETING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY. JUNE 17TH, 2024. [00:05:02] THAT'S IT, COMMISSIONER. ALRIGHT, SINCE WE HAVE NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR, NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST IT, DR. QUEEN, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. YES. LAST WEEK I DID GET CLARIFICATION ON THE DEFINITION OF LOW DENSITY. MM-HMM. . NOW I SEE MEDIUM DENSITY. CAN YOU TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO? MEDIUM DENSITY WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS TWO FAMILY, WHICH YOU CAN PUT DUPLEXES OR TWO LIVING, UH, QUARTERS ON ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY. SINGLE FAMILY IS JUST FOR ONE HOUSE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO THE DEVELOPER HERE IS SEEKING, UH, THERE'S AN EXISTING DUPLEX PLEX ON THE SITE ALREADY. OKAY. HE'S FIXING IT UP. BUT HE HAS THREE, UH, UH, LOTS RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. SO HE WANTS TO MAKE THAT ONE HUGE, UH, PIECE OF, UH, LAND FOR THAT EXISTING DUPLEX. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO MEDIAN DENSITY IS LIKE A TWO TO FOUR? YEAH, IT'S A TWO FAMILY. A TWO, YES. AND LOW IS ONE, ONE THE YOUNGEST. TWO TWO UHHUH AND MDR IS MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEXES. REALLY? MM-HMM. , WE USED TO SAY IT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, UH, THEY CHANGED THIS IN, UH, JANUARY 1ST, 2023. AND WE USED TO SAY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, FORMALLY KNOWN AS SINGLE FAMILY. BUT AFTER A YEAR, UH, WE DECIDED TO SAY, OKAY, EVERYBODY SHOULD BE A LITTLE AWARE, BUT IF THEY HAVE A QUESTION, WE'LL ANSWER IT. AND SO WE DON'T REALLY SAY FORMALLY THIS AND THIS AND THIS ANYMORE. LOWEST ONE MEDIUM IS TWO TO FOUR. AND THEN MULTI APARTMENT? YEAH. UH, JUST, JUST TWO, TWO. UH, MDR IS JUST TWO HOUSES ON ONE, TWO RESIDENCES ON ONE LOT. YOU CAN'T PUT THREE. IF YOU PUT THREE, IT BECOMES A MULTIFAMILY. OKAY. JUST TWO MM-HMM. , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, DID YOU, DID ANY, DID Y'ALL RECEIVE A A, A ZONING ORDINANCE? I DID BECAUSE THEY, I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO HAVE GOTTEN THE NEW ORDINANCES. WELL, I, I CAN I I'LL GET YOU A COPY OF THE, THE NEW ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT, IT EXPLAINS ALL OF THAT WITHIN IT. SO I GET YOU A COPY OF IT AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE THE FIRST ONE THAT CAME OUT DIDN'T HAVE THE NEW ORDINANCES AND THEY GAVE YOU THE FIRST ONE, BUT THEN WHEN THE SECOND ONE CAME OUT, THEY GAVE ME THE SECOND ONE THAT CHANGED IN JANUARY OF 2023. SO THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THE STATE CHANGED. YEAH. I GET YOU, I GET YOU SOMETHING. AND THEN IT'LL EXPLAIN ALL OF THE, THE CHANGES. THERE'S A PAGE ON THERE THAT SAYS, THIS USED TO BE THIS, NOW IT'S THIS AND IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING. SO I'LL GET THAT FOR YOU. SO, OKAY. SINCE THERE ARE NO ONE SPEAKING FOR NO ONE SPEAKING AGAINST THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE ASKED THEIR QUESTIONS. I BELIEVE WE'LL TAKE BOTH OF THESE AS RELAS TO VOTE ON. YES, THAT'S PERFECTLY. OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE REPL OF BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES. ONE SECOND. OKAY. TO REPL THE VOTE FOR R TWO FOUR DASH 14 R TWO FOUR DASH 15 HAS BEEN APPROVED, VOTED BY DWIGHT WAGNER, FIRST VOTED, THEN SECOND BY ZULEMA ESCOBIDO. ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. AYE. IT'S DONE. OKAY. [VII. NEW BUSINESS - NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS] AND NEW BUSINESS. OKAY. I WAS ABOUT TO HAVE, IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS? YES, UH, THERE IS SOME NEW BUSINESS. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN COMING AND TELLING YOU THAT WE WERE GONNA BE CHANGING THE, UH, THE, THE ZONING AND ON ON, UH, PLEASURE ISLAND. AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE FINALLY GOTTEN THAT DONE. SO WE ARE GONNA, WE, UH, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BRING IT TODAY, BUT, UH, WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS GONNA BE ENOUGH COMMISSIONERS THERE. SO WE ARE GONNA TRY TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE TO BRING IT TO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. WE'RE GONNA COME TO YOU AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING AFTER THAT MEETING. WE'RE GONNA SEND OUT NOTICES TO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER IN THAT AREA AND TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO, UH, HAPPEN. AND WE ARE GONNA, INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM 15 DAYS, WE ARE GONNA GIVE THEM 30 DAYS TO RESPOND AT A PUBLIC HEARING. SO EVERYBODY, ONE GENTLEMAN CAME FROM GEORGIA AND, UH, WANTED TO DO SOMETHING WITH HIS PROPERTY. AND WE EXPLAINED THE SITUATION TO HIM AND HE SAID, OKAY, AS LONG AS I'M GETTING NOTICED A NOTICE ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, I'M OKAY WITH IT. HE REALLY DOESN'T WANT IT TO CHANGE TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL. 'CAUSE HE WAS LIKE, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING OUT THERE. NOBODY WANTS TO BILL OUT THERE. I SAID, WELL, SIR, EVERY, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING. THEY BOUGHT PROPERTIES IN THOSE AREAS AND, AND THEY WANT TO PUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OUT THERE. AND, UH, THEY CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S ZONED RIGHT NOW. SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING HERE. SO HE, OKAY THEN, SO THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ZONE FOR, CURRENTLY IT IS ZONED FOR, UH, COMMERCIAL. OH, MM-HMM. , YOU CAN'T PUT RESIDENT, THE OLD ORDINANCE WOULD LET YOU PUT A RESIDENCE IN A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, IT WAS REALLY NOT AN ORDINANCE AT ALL BECAUSE YOU, YOU [00:10:01] PUT AN ORDINANCE TO PROTECT THE SAFETY AND HEALTH AND WELFARE OF EVERYONE. UH, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE, UH, GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, LIKE DOWN THE STREET RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUS BARN FOR THE, UH, THERE'S A, A SEAFOOD RENDERING PLANT OR SEAFOOD SOMETHING PLANT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. AND RIGHT IN THE BACK OF IT IS A HOME WHO WANTS TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT. SO, UH, BUT THAT IT WAS ALLOWED BACK THEN. SO NOW WE, THE, THE ORDINANCE WILL NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN. SO, AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN ON PLEDGE ISLAND, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE ISLAND? NO, THERE'S A SECTION. THERE'S A SECTION, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE, WHERE THE BRIDGE, THE CARS WAY BRIDGE OR WHATEVER IT IS, RIGHT FROM THERE ON UP TO ABOUT HALFWAY GOING IN WHAT DIRECTION? COMING NORTH. IF YOU'RE COMING FROM LOUISIANA, RIGHT AT THE STRAIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. YOU KEEP STRAIGHT ON ON MLKI THINK IT IS. YOU KEEP STRAIGHT ON IT. THERE'S A SECTION RIGHT THERE. AFTER THAT STARTS, UH, THERE'S SOME HOMES, YOU'LL SEE SOME HOMES BUILT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. BUT IF YOU'RE COMING FROM PORT ARTHUR, IT'S ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. MLK BRIDGE. AND I COME TO THE STOP SIGN. YOU GONNA TURN THE LEFT? I'M GONNA MAKE A LEFT TURN. UHHUH. MM-HMM. . OH, OKAY. SO I'M GOING TOWARDS LOUISIANA. YES. RIGHT. AND THERE'S SOME HOMES THAT'S BUILT OUT THERE AND PEOPLE HAVE BUILT SAID THAT THEY BOUGHT THAT FOR RETIREMENT PURPOSES. IT'S NOT, NOW THEY'RE RETIRING. THEY WANTED TO BUILD A HOME OUT THERE. AND THEY CAME OUT TO BUILD IT, BUT WE COULDN'T ALLOW 'EM. AND THEN THEY SAID, WHY WHEN I BOUGHT IT, WE COULD DO IT. SO WE REALLY, WE ACTUALLY HAD ASKED THE CONSULTANTS TO PUT THAT AS RESIDENTIAL, BUT SOMEWHERE THEY, THEY, THEY DIDN'T AND WE DIDN'T CATCH IT. SO NOW WE'RE COMING TO, UH, TO, TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION. BUT THERE HAS BEEN SOME INTEREST IN YEAH, YEAH. WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE AND THEY KEEP CALLING EVERY NOW AND THEN. WHEN, WHEN Y'ALL GONNA DO IT, WHEN Y'ALL GONNA DO IT. AND IT STARTED ABOUT, I'D SAY THE FIRST ABOUT LAST, UH, YEAR IN JANUARY, IN NOVEMBER, I STARTED GETTING INQUIRIES ABOUT IT. AND THEY'VE CALLED JANUARY, THEY'VE CALLED MARCH, AND THEY CALLED WHEN Y'ALL GOTTA DO IT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO GET THE CITY MANAGER AND, AND PAT, PAM HAS TO, UH, SPEAK TO EVERYBODY TO TRY TO GET THEM ON BOARD. SO YEAH. JUST CURIOUS, THE GENTLEMAN WHO CALLED YOU FROM GEORGIA. MM-HMM. . BUT HE CAME DOWN HERE. HE DIDN'T COME. HE PROPERTY ON THE ISLAND. YES. DOES HE HAVE A HOUSE ON THE ISLAND? NO, HE SAID HE HAD, HE LIVED THERE A LONG TIME AGO. AND IT MAY BE A HOUSE THERE. I'M NOT SURE. HE DIDN'T REALLY SAY. HE SAID HE LIVED THERE, BUT HE DIDN'T LIKE IT. SO HE MOVED TO GEORGIA. SO WHAT'S HIS OPPOSITION? I, YOU KNOW, HE WAS JUST, HE WAS JUST DIDN'T WANT IT TO CHANGE. 'CAUSE HE SAID THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR HOUSES. HE, I THINK HE WANTS TO PUT MAYBE AN RV PARK OR SOMETHING OUT THERE, BUT SO, UH, WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE RV PARK. ESPECIALLY NOT ON THE ISLAND. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO, SO, AND THAT, THAT WAS HIS THING. I REALLY COULDN'T CATCH. HE WAS HERE AND I COULDN'T CATCH EVERYTHING HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY'S RANTING AND RAVING. YEAH. AND SO, UH, UH, HE THOUGHT HE WAS GETTING, GETTING IRATE AND SO I HAD TO BRING HIM IN MY OFFICE AND I SAY, OKAY, LET'S TALK THIS OUT INTELLIGENTLY, BUT I'M NOT HERE TO FUSS AND FIGHT. I SAID, I KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE OTHER SITUATION TO YOU. AND SO AFTER I LEFT AND HE, UH, I GAVE, HE GAVE ME HIS INFORMATION FOR, UH, US TO WRITE HIM IN CONTACT WITH HIM. SO I HAVE THAT INFORMATION SO WE'LL, SO HOW MUCH LAND DOES HE HAVE OUT THERE? HE HAS A GOOD BID. I MEAN, IT, I THINK IT'S OVER FIVE ACRES. OH. AND YOU CAN PUT A RV PARK IN FIVE ACRES, BUT HE WASN'T COMMITTING TO PUTTING AN RV PARK. HE SAID SOMETHING HE JUST MENTIONED, AND HE MENTIONED OTHER THINGS TO A BAIT SHOP OR WHATEVER. HE LIVE YET? NO, HE LIVES IN GEORGIA. SO WHEN BILL KNOWS HIM AND NOT BE HERE TO TAKE CARE OF IT, THAT'S NOT GOOD. AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. AND LET ME SEE. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR, UH, SO I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE. THE, UM, PAGE ISLAND NEXT MONTH, ARE WE DOING THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH? NEXT MONTH? I DON'T, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT EVERY, I THINK EVERY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH PEOPLE HERE TO COMMISSION IS HERE TO, AT AT LEAST MR. BROWN. WELL, MR. BROWN SHOWS UP. YEAH, YOU'LL BE THE ONLY ONE. YEAH. SO SHE, SHE WASN'T SURE ABOUT THIS ONE. SO, UH, WE'LL BRING IT UP AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM 30 DAY NOTICE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE MEETING HERE FOR, SINCE WE, UH, THE PLANNING IS ZONING COMMISSION IS INITIATING THE, THE CHANGE AND IT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO, AND THAT WE'RE GONNA CHANGE IT FROM LIKE, UM, FROM COMMERCIAL TO, UH, UH, RESIDENTIAL. YEAH. SO THEY CAN PUT THEIR HOMES THERE. , I'M SURE THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HERE [00:15:01] COMPLAINING. WHAT AREA? DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S, UH, IT, LIKE I SAID, IT STARTS AROUND WHERE THE CAUSEWAY, I MEAN THE BRIDGE COMES AND THEN COMING IN FROM LOUISIANA AND IT'S ON THE RIGHT AND IT GOES UP ABOUT, OH, MAYBE MIDWAY TO, I HAVE TO GET A MAP AND SHOW YOU. IT'S, IT IS A GOOD BIT THOUGH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE, BUT I'M GOING TOWARDS LOUISIANA. IT IS. YEAH. YEAH. SO IT'S COMING DOWN FROM TOWARD . IT'S ON THE LEFT SIDE. IT IS BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BRIDGE. YEAH. OKAY. SO, UH, IF I HAD A MAP, I SHOW, BUT THEN ALL THEY WANNA DO IS PUT HOUSES THERE BECAUSE YEAH. WELL SO FAR EVERYBODY, IT'S THE OTHER GENTLEMAN WHO CAME FROM GEORGIA. HE HAS, UH, DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT WHAT TO PUT THERE. I REALLY DIDN'T GET A GRIP ON, HE WAS IRATE, SO I DIDN'T GET A GRIP ON EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED. NO, IT'S THE SAME PERSON FROM GEORGIA, BUT THE PERSON THAT WANTS TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT WANTS TO BUILD A HOUSE, I THINK WE GOT ABOUT TWO OR THREE OF 'EM THAT WANTS TO BUILD A HOME. THEY, THEY, THEY'RE DIFFERENT FROM HIM. OKAY. THEY WANNA PUT RESIDENTS, HE WANTS TO KEEP WHATEVER HE HAS. SO, OH, OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT AND, AND, AND, AND GET IT DONE AND BRING YOU UP TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE YOU UP, UP TO SPEED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. AND SO, AND I CAN'T THINK I UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPER OVER THERE WANTS TO CONVERT ONE OF THOSE MARINA BUILDINGS INTO A RESTAURANT. DID I READ THAT? WELL, HE HAS PLANS TO DO A LOT. YEAH. HE WANTS TO PUT A, UH, HE SAYS HE WANTS TO PUT A, UH, UH, A WATER PARK ABOUT WATER PARK AS WELL AS A RESTAURANT. AND WHEN HE FIRST CAME, HE HAD, I WANNA PUT RESTAURANTS. I WANNA PUT A HOTEL AND I WANT TO PUT, I WANNA PUT A WATER PARK. YOU KNOW. SOUNDS GREAT. LET'S SEE. YOU KNOW, DID HE LEASE THE LAND OR HE BOUGHT THE, HE, I THINK HE BOUGHT THE LAND. 'CAUSE HE HAD TO HAVE IT. HE WAS TRYING TO GET IT REZONED AT SOME POINT. WELL, HE HAD TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO BUY THE LAND. SO I THINK THEY APPROVED IT YEAR, COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. A YEAR. SO HE'S BEEN WORKING, TRYING TO DO THIS FOR A WHILE. BUT THEY ALSO HEARD AND READ THAT, UH, SOMETHING MAYBE IN THE WORKS WITH THE YACHT CLUB AND THIS GUY. NOW I, I, I'M NOT PRIVY TO THAT INFORMATION. SO I COULD COUNCIL WELL, IT WOULD BE NICE TO, NO, THEY WEREN'T. NO, IT WOULD BE NICE FOR THEM TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AND TO, AND IRON IT OUT. TRYING TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW TO EACH OTHER. BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE CITY CAME OUT AGAINST WHAT HE WANTED TO DO AND NOT TALK TO THE YACHT CLUB. AND APPARENTLY THEY CHANGED THE TIMES, THE TIME ON HIM, THE YACHT CLUB, TO REMOVE EVERYTHING OUT OF THAT BUILDING. 'CAUSE AT ONE POINT IT WAS LIKE 48 HOURS THEY HAD TO HAVE EVERYTHING MOVED. MM-HMM. , . THEN THEY CHANGED IT TO 30 DAYS, GIVING THEM 30 DAYS TO MOVE EVERYTHING OUT OF THAT BUILDING. BUT IT'S STILL WRONG. I MEAN, THE CITY DIDN'T BUILD THAT. AND THAT MAN WAS ALSO TOLD AT VALUE. RIGHT. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. RIGHT. AND, UH, BUT, UH, TO, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PUT IN IMPROVEMENT ON A PIECE OF LAND THAT YOU'RE LEASING, AND IF THEY DON'T RENEW YOUR LEASE, YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR, YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR, UH, PROPERTY WITH YOU. SO, UH, I'M STILL CONFUSED AS TO HOW THEY LEASED IT WHEN THE CITY DIDN'T BUILD IT. WELL, THEY LEASED THE LAND. WELL, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S, THAT. I COULD SEE THAT HAPPENED YEARS AGO. I'M NOT SURE. SO THE CLUB DOESN'T EXISTING. YEAH, THEY, THEY EXIST. THEY JUST, SO THE MAN WAS JUST TAKING OVER THE LAND THAT THEY HAD BUILT THERE, THEIR OFFICE, THEIR OFFICE OR WHATEVER THEY BUILT ON. AND SO THAT WAS, THAT'S WHAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAPPEN. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE IN KEA, THE, THE MARINA AND, UH, AND KEA, UH, STUFF, IT, THEY COEXIST VERY WELL. SO I'M THINKING, I'M THINKING THEY SHOULD COEXIST ALSO HERE. I MEAN, WHY CAN'T WE? YEAH. YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, 'CAUSE I WAS OUT IN LEE CITY NOT LONG AGO, AND THEY'RE A BEAUTIFUL MARINA. IT GORGEOUS. MM-HMM. . AND, UH, WHAT I DIDN'T SEE OUT THERE THOUGH, WERE LIKE, UM, THE, THE FAST VEHICLES, WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE WHERE YOU GET ON THE WATER AND SKIS. SKIS? YEAH. SOMETHING LIKE SKIS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED. JET SKIS. OH. SO YOU CAN SEE JUST YACHTS AND BOATS. OKAY. NO JET SKIS. SO THAT'S IT FOR GUYS TRYING TO DO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S IT FOR OUR, UH, OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS TODAY. SO OUR OKAY. ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT. I MOVED TO SECOND. ALRIGHT. RIGHT. IT'S BEEN APPROVED. AND SECOND THAT WE ADJOURN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSED. WELL THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING THE MEETING. YEAH. WELL, JOHNNY BROWN BETTER BE HERE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.