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THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH I HAVE TO SAY.
IS MY NAME YAY OR NA? ALRIGHT.
ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS 5:30 PM AND, UH,
[II. Call to Order]
WE'RE GOING TO START THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF APRIL 1ST, 2024.UH, WE'LL START WITH, UM, ROLL CALL, UH, PRESENT.
JOHNNY BROWN, LINN QUEEN, PRESENT.
SO WE HAVE A QUORUM, WE'LL CONTINUE.
[IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NEXT ITEM ON NUMBER FOUR IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.SO I SECOND MOVE AND SECOND IT MOVED BY COMMISSIONER, UH, QUEEN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WAGNER.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS? ALRIGHT.
OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, SO I HAVE IT AND I NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
[VI. NEW BUSINESS - PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS (INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION)]
NOW GONNA MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM FOR A AR 2 4 5 RE REPLAY.I WAS TRYING TO RECORD THIS, BUT I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO, THE GREEN LIGHT IS ON BACK THERE, SO, OH, SHE'S RECORDING, BUT I WAS TRYING TO RECORD IT SO THAT SHE CAN DO HER MINUTES AND YOU WANNA START OVER? NO, I THINK WE, I CAN GET THAT.
I CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT HOW YOU GET TO RECORD ON THIS THING.
OH, HE DOESN'T HAVE AN IPHONE.
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO WORK IT? YOU WANT A VOICE MEMO ONE? YEAH, IT'S A VOICE MEMO ON THE APP.
A VOICE MEMO THAT COMES UP AND IT'S A PART OF THE APPLE PROGRAM OUT REGULAR RECORD.
YOU WANT TO VIDEO IT? WE'LL WORK OUT.
I KNOW THAT, I KNOW THE LADY IS RECORDING IT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY 'CAUSE I'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
CALCULATOR, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE IT, YEAH, WE'LL MAKE IT.
HOW YOU DOING? ARE YOU READY? YEAH, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD.
I'LL JUST MAKE SURE I KEEP GOOD NOTES.
WE, UH, HAVE COMPLETED THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD WE ADDED, UH, COMMISSIONER LIMA
WELL, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE MINUTES.
SO NEXT ITEM IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR NEW BUSINESS AR 24.
UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS, UH, ERMO, ABAR, I'M SORRY IF I'M MESSING UP THAT NAME.
UH,
I MEAN, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON 47 48 70 SIXTH STREET, UH, JAKE AD PARCEL NUMBER 6 7 9 0 4.
UH, THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A REPLANT REQUESTING, UH, A REPLANT OF LOTS ONE THROUGH THREE BLOCK SIX NEWPORT HEIGHTS, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS.
THE NEW TRACK NAME WILL BE TRACK ONE A LOTS, ONE THROUGH THREE BLOCK SIX NEWPORT HEIGHTS, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS.
THE LOT DIMENSIONS ARE 140 FEET BY 150 FEET, WHICH EQUALS 21,000 SQUARE FEET.
A TOTAL ACREAGE IS 0.4809 ACRES OF LAND.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL.
UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS NONE AND A BUDDING ZONING IS NORTHEAST WEST COMMERCIAL, RETAIL AND SOUTH.
FUTURE LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPLANT IS TO COMBINE THREE LOTS INTO ONE LOT FOR A NEW COMMERCIAL RETAIL.
UH, THE APPLICATION IS FOR A REPLANT, WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON MARCH 8TH, 2024 ON THURSDAY, MARCH 14TH, 2024.
SEVEN NOTICES WERE MAILED TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FOOT RADIUS AND PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER A MINIMUM OF 15
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DAYS BEFORE THE PNZ PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY, APRIL 1ST, 2024.HOW THAT HAPPEN? SORRY, I'M TURNING OFF MY PHONE.
UH, BEFORE WE, UH, OPEN IT UP FOR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR ISSUES RAISED BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP? I HAD ONE, DR. BROWN, UM, IS THIS PROPERTY NEXT TO THE FUEL DEPOT ON JIMMY JOHNSON AND TWIN CITIES? I WENT OUT THERE AND, UH, YES SIR.
THERE'S A, IT'S, IT IS LIKE BEHIND THAT PROPERTY NEXT TO IT ON THE SIDE OF IT.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, COMMERCIAL RETAIL? NO, HE WASN'T SPECIFIC ON THAT, UH, PARTICULAR ISSUE.
HE JUST SAID COMMERCIAL RETAIL.
NO, IT, IT HAS A, IT'S A, IT'S A, LIKE HE SAID, IT'S A GAS STATION, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE AND RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS A PROPERTY.
IT'S ON A, IT'S ON FRONT IN FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC, PUBLIC TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? UH, MAY YOU PLEASE IF YOU STEP FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
UH, IT'S RONALD ELIZONDO, 47 10 70 SIXTH STREET.
I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS PROPERTY.
UH, MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 46 YEARS AND SINCE THEY PUT THE FUEL DEPOT IN, UH, WE'VE NOTICED A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S A BIG CONCERN TO ME.
SO LET ME ASK YOU, LEMME INTERRUPT A SECOND.
YOU WANNA SPEAK AGAINST THE PROPERTY? ARE YOU JUST NO, I'M, WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF IT.
YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK AGAINST IT.
CONCERN, BUT I HAVE, YEAH, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
WE, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE HERE.
LEMME JUST ASK AGAIN, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? AND THIRDLY, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO SPEAK, ANYONE HERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? NOW THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK AGAINST THE ITEM AND I HAVE TO ASK A COUPLE MORE TIMES.
ANYONE HERE THAT SPEAK AGAINST ITEM? ANYONE WHO TO SPEAK AGAINST ITEM NOW YOU WANT TO SPEAK IN TERMS OF CONCERN FOR THAT ITEM? YES, SIR.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN BECAUSE AS IT IS, UH, PEOPLE COME DOWN JIMMY JOHNSON TO GO TO FUEL DEPOT, THEY CUT OVER ON BRAD STREET AND COME UP 76TH STREET, WHICH WE LIVE ON 76TH AND TO GET TO THE FUEL DEPOT.
AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A RESTAURANT THAT'S GONNA BE PUT IN THERE.
UH, BUT ANYWAY, SO PEOPLE COMING DOWN JIMMY JOHNSON ARE GONNA WANNA CUT OVER ON BRAS COME UP 76TH STREET TO GO TO THE BUSINESS.
UH, PEOPLE COMING DOWN TWIN CITY FROM GROVES AREA, UH, ARE GONNA WANT TO TURN ON JIMMY JOHNSON, GO TO BRAD'S, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE BY THE LITTLE THEATER, AND THEN GO TO 76TH STREET AND GO TO THE RESTAURANT.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF ADDED TRAFFIC.
UH, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT REALLY CAN BE DONE OR WHAT THE ANSWER MIGHT WOULD BE.
UH, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH SMALL KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SO I, THAT, THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN FOR US.
UH, 'CAUSE THERE WAS A HOUSE FOREVER NEXT DOOR TO US, UH, THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY TORE DOWN THAT THIS IS GONNA BE THE BUSINESS NOW.
AND, UH, BUT ANYWAY, UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
AND, AND THE OVERFLOW, IF THERE'S AN OVERFLOW AS FAR AS PARKING AT THIS FACILITY, IF THEY PARK UP AND DOWN 76TH STREET, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT RECOURSE DO WE HAVE? DO WE HAVE ANY RECOURSE? CAN WE CALL, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE AND HAVE TAR CARS TOWED IF NEED BE, IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR YARD OR BLOCKING OUR DRIVEWAY OR THAT KIND OF THING.
I'M REALLY NOT SURE WHAT OUR, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS RIGHTS GO, AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
WHY DON'T WE, UH, MR DO YOU CARE TO COMMENT ON ANY OF THE THINGS THAT MR. ONE ABOUT THE PLANTERS? OKAY.
AND IF YOU NEED TO SAY OTHERS, SAY THAT SPEAK ABOUT SURE.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT IT BEING A RESTAURANT THAT WASN'T BROUGHT TO OUR OFFICE AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT.
THE MAN JUST SAID THAT HE WAS JUST TRYING TO DO A COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AT THE PROPERTY.
UM, AS FAR AS PARKING, HE WOULD HAVE TO COME TO A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING THAT WE HAVE SET UP,
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UH, IN OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OFFICE.AND THEY, WE HAVE HIM EVERY WEDNESDAY.
AND BEFORE HE COULD EVEN DO A PROJECT, HE WOULD HAVE TO COME THERE AND WE WOULD TELL THEM HOW MUCH PARKING THEY HAVE AND MAKE SURE HE HAS THE CORRECT PARKING.
AND HE WOULD MEET WITH ENGINEERING, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THE PAVING IS OKAY.
AND, UH, MEET WITH, UM, UH, DD SEVEN ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, OH, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T FLOOD AND MAKE SURE THAT IT, EVERYTHING IS CORRECT.
SO BEFORE HE DOES ANYTHING, HE WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH US TO GET APPROVAL BEFORE HE CAN GET A, A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO GO INTO HIS, UH, HIS AREA.
SO AS FAR AS FOR IF PEOPLE PARKING IN YOUR, ON YOUR PROPERTY, IT'S A PUBLIC STREET, PEOPLE CAN PARK ON IT, BUT IF THEY COVER, IF THEY BLOCK YOUR DRIVEWAY, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE A RIGHT, UH, TO CALL THE POLICE OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S NOT OUR ACTION AT THAT POINT.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO, WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
WELL, SO IN TERMS OF THE ITIES AND, UM, THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDED, UM, SO IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, NEED TO KNOW IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD MEET ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR SUCH AS PLA TO BE APPROVED? UH, THEY MEET ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR A PLA FOR APPROVAL.
UH, IT JUST, WHEN THEY WANNA BUILD SOMETHING, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US TO GET, UH, SO WOULD HE BE NOTIFIED OR WILL WE HAVE TO CALL UP HERE TO MAKE SURE HE'S COMING AT THE RIGHT DATE? WHEN THESE INDIVIDUALS, WELL, PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, WE DON'T NOTIFY.
IT IS JUST THEM COMING IN TO GET, UH, WE DON'T EVEN CHARGE 'EM FOR THAT.
IT IS JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO, THEY COME THERE AND, AND WE, UH, TELL THEM WHAT THEY WANNA DO.
IF, IF THEY DO EVERYTHING THAT'S WITHIN THE ZONING THEIR ORDINANCE, AND THEY MEET ALL OF THE QUALIFICATION FOR THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, THEN WE ALLOW THEM TO, UH, PURSUE THEIR CONSTRUCTION OF THEIR BUSINESS.
THEN AFTER PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING? THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY MEET ALL THE PROCESSES AND, UH, THEY, THEY MEET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S, UH, UH, REGULATIONS, THE BUILDING, THEIR REGULATIONS AND EVERYTHING, OUR PARKING REGULATIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE A LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE THAT THEY HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO LANDSCAPE TO MAKE IT REALLY NICE LOOKING AND EVERYTHING.
SO AFTER THEY MEET ALL THAT, WE, UH, UH, CAN, THEY CAN MEET AND GET THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AT THAT POINT, WE CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN'T BUY BUILD AS LONG AS THEY'RE WITHIN THE, THE, THE CONFINES OF OURS ZONING DISTRICT.
ANYTHING ELSE? QUESTION, SIR? DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, FURTHER, UH, WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO PUT UP A FENCE BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY? YES, SIR.
WE ALL, WE, WE HAVE TO, UH, UH, WE, THEY HAVE TO PUT A FENCE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND THEIR, UH, COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES.
IT HAS TO BE A PRIVACY FENCE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
ACTUALLY, MY WIFE WAS RAISED IN THAT HOUSE, SO SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR OVER 60 YEARS.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, BUT WE SEE, AND EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE 20 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT POSTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING A LOT FASTER THAN THAT.
COMING FROM BRAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE TO GO TO THE FUEL DEPOT.
AND, UH, SO THAT WAS MY CONCERN.
IF THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, YET ANOTHER BUSINESS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS, IT'S GONNA ATTRACT MORE TRAFFIC.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SMALL GRANDKIDS, THEY LOVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE ANYBODY WE ENJOY GOING, WALKING WITH 'EM OR LETTING 'EM RIDE THEIR BIKES AND ALL THAT.
YOU KNOW, IT HATE TO BE IMPRISONED IN OUR OWN HOME BECAUSE WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER WOULD BE TO THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING DOWN, JIMMY JOHNSON, LIKE I SAID, THEY LIKE TO CUT OVER BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO PLACE TO REALLY DO IT AT THE LIGHT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT TRYING TO TURN AROUND AND CAUSES ISSUES AND PEOPLE TRYING TO ALREADY TURN AS IT IS.
SO THAT'S A MESSED UP SITUATION RIGHT THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE YOU GET TO THIS RESTAURANT OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, OTHER THAN TO CUT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER WOULD BE TO THAT.
WHO WOULD NEED LOOK INTO THAT? OR ARE YOU, IS YOUR PROPERTY RIGHT BEHIND? IT'S DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR? JUST DUE WEST OF WHERE THIS, SO THEY WOULD BE LIKE YOUR BACK DOOR NEIGHBOR KIND OF? NO, ON MY, MY SIDE, MY SIDE.
MY BACK DOOR NEIGHBOR IS THE PORT OFF THE LITTLE THEATER.
SO YOUR, THERE'S A CITY BLOCK RIGHT NOW? WE'RE THE ONLY RESIDENTIAL HOUSE ON, ON THAT BLOCK.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE ONLY HOUSE LEFT THERE.
BUT THERE, UH, AND IT'S AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU GOT A LOT OF RETIRED PEOPLE THERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT STILL, UH, WELL, I'M
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MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE, IF IT'S A BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM CAN BE OPEN TILL NINE.I, I WOULD BE MORE WORRIED THAN, THAN ANYTHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE THERE, IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO YOU THAT YOU WOULD HEAR THEM.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU ALREADY, UH, I USED TO VOLUNTEER AT THE PORT ARTHUR LITTLE THEATER AND THERE'S SOME WEEKENDS THAT IT'S CRAZY.
SO NOW YOU'RE GONNA BE HAVING THAT AS WELL.
I'VE HAD TO PUT SIGNS ON THE SIDE OF MY YARD BEFORE 'CAUSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS GOING ON AT THE LITTLE THEATER WHERE PEOPLE WERE PARKING IN MY YARD ON THE SIDE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UH, SO I HAD TO PUT, YOU KNOW, SIGNS DON'T PARK IN MY YARD.
AND, UH, AND, AND YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, I GET IT, BUT I TRY TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, AND I SURE THEY ARE TOO.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A CONCERN, LIKE I SAID.
'CAUSE I, I'VE, I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, THE ADDED TRAFFIC JUST FOR THE LITTLE STORE THERE, FUEL DEPOT.
AND, UH, AND THEN WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL, UH, ROBBERIES OF THE LITTLE STORE, YOU KNOW, THE FUEL DEPOT.
UH, I'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO CALL THE POLICE BEFORE ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER ISSUE OR NOT, YOU KNOW? UH, BUT IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS A RESTAURANT, USUALLY RESTAURANTS AREN'T OPEN REAL LATE, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE AS FAR AS LATE AT NIGHT GOES.
YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE HANGING OUT, YOU KNOW, ALL KIND OF HOURS OF THE NIGHT, WHICH WOULD BE A BIG CONCERN.
BUT, UH, THE MAIN THING IS THAT WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT THE ADDED TRAFFIC THAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE.
THERE'S NO DOUBT IT'S GOING, IT'S GOING HAPPEN.
UH, BUT, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WHAT THE ANSWER MIGHT WOULD BE THAT SAID THEY'LL PUT UP A PRIVACY PENSION AND HOPEFULLY THAT STOPS PEOPLE FROM PROPERTY ON YOUR PROPERTY.
HOPEFULLY THAT TAKES CARE OF THE PARKING, ALL YOUR PROPERTY.
YOU MAY NOT TAKE, YOU KNOW, STREET PROPERTY PROPERTY.
BUT ON YOUR PROPERTY BETWEEN THERE AND YOURS, IF THEY PUT UP A PROPERTY, THIS IS MY THING IN YOUR YARD.
YEAH, THAT, THAT'D BE A BIG HELP FOR, FOR SURE.
UH, YOU KNOW, SO, SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION, MR. GOD.
SO IF HE WISHES TO FOLLOW THE PROGRESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR PRO PROJECT OF COLOR, HOW CAN HE DO THAT? WELL, HE CAN CALL MY OFFICE OR I CAN GIVE HIM MY CONTACT INFORMATION.
AND, UH, IF, IF THEY DO HAVE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, I CAN, I CAN LET HIM KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON AT THAT TIME.
UH, BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE REPL AND SO IT'S NOT A REZONING, SO, OH, OKAY.
SO WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, GET INTO ALL THOSE ISSUES, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TRY TO KEEP HIM INFORMED.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SO HONORED THAT YOU WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO COME HERE, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THE LEARN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND BE PROTECTIVE OF YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR, YOUR PARTICULAR HOME.
IF I COULD GET, UH, CONTACT INFORMATION OR THAT, THAT'D BE FANTASTIC.
UH, YOU KNOW, I CAN GET AHOLD OF YOU.
GET WARM, LIKE YOU SAID, I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
'CAUSE I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS, I HAD ANOTHER NEIGHBOR WAS WANTING TO COME, BUT HE HAD TO WORK SO HE COULDN'T COME.
BUT, UH, DID YOU RECEIVE A, UH, A LETTER? THE LETTER? YES, SIR.
AND YOU ARE RIGHT BETWEEN WHILE YOU ARE DOING THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? RIGHT HERE? OKAY.
DID MR. BROWN, MR. ELIZONDO, YES, SIR.
ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THE SPEEDING? ARE THEY SPEEDING THROUGH THERE, OR IS JUST WELL, A LOT OF VEHICLES ARE, UH, THEY JUST, THEY DO, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF 'EM DON'T HAVE CONCERN.
THEY'RE NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD NEIGHBORS TELL 'EM, HEY, YOU NEED TO SLOW IT DOWN.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEN THEY GET UPSET OVER US TELLING 'EM, HEY, YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN.
SO I THOUGHT, OKAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WORTH GETTING SHOT OVER, YOU KNOW, BUT STILL YOU'RE CONCERNED.
'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT SMALL GRANDCHILDREN THAT WE LIKE TO TAKE OUT AND GO WALK AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND I SEE OTHER KIDS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WITH SMALL KIDS WITH THEIR BIKES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, YOU KNOW.
AND, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS TIME OF YEAR, YOU KNOW.
BUT, UH, SO IT'S JUST A, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A CONCERN.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS 20, LIKE I SAID, BUT NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'VE NOT SEEN THIS IN PORT ARTHUR, BUT WHEN I VISITED AUSTIN, I NOTICED EVEN ON A BUSY STREET, THEY HAVE SPEED BUMPS.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT MIGHT BE A SOLUTION FOR AT SLOW IT DOWN THAT ACTUALLY, UH, MY NEIGHBOR AND I, WE HAD JUST, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT VERY
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THING AND THAT MIGHT WOULD BE SOMETHING IF, IF SOMEONE WOULD JUST LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATIVE.JUST IF SOMEONE SAY, OKAY, WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT, SEE WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO.
YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
WHAT DISTRICT IS THAT? WHAT DISTRICT IS IT THREE? THREE? IS THAT THREE? WELL, HE, HE CAN GET IN CONTACT WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY COULD TALK, DISCUSS HOW YOU GET A, UH, SPEED BUMP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH THEM.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT, THAT'S PROBABLY YOUR BEST, BEST OPTION.
BUT I, I, I GOT, I, I GAVE YOU, GET YOU HERE.
I DON'T HAVE MY CARD WITH ME, BUT IF YOU WRITE YOUR PHONE NUMBER DOWN RIGHT HERE, I'LL CALL YOU AND LET YOU KNOW.
WE NEED TO VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL, YOU, YEAH, YOU NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN VOTE FOR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER WAGNER, THE MOTION SECOND OPPOSED? I, SO AT THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED AND NOW WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR NEW BUSINESS, THE ONE ITEM OF WHICH IS R 24 DASH FIVE.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, BEYOND WHAT WE THANK YOU.
LET'S, LET'S HAVE A MOTION FIRST.
I SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER, UH, WAGNER.
UH, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR ISSUES? UH, HONOR ABOUT NOT HEARING NONE.
[VII. NEW BUSINESS - NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS]
COMMENTS OR REPORTS? MR. UH, WELL, I DO HAVE ONE.I KNOW I'VE SAID THIS SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING, UH, A NEW CHANGE TO OUR ZONING MAP IN THE SABINE PASS AREA.
IT IS, UH, IT IS INDUSTRIAL AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT COMMERCIAL SINCE THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE.
I MEAN, RESIDENTIAL, SINCE THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE DOWN THERE IS RESIDENTIAL.
SOMEHOW WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS, UH, UH, ORDINANCE, IT, IT, WE MISSED IT.
SO WE INTENDING TO CHANGE IT SO WE MISSED IT.
SO WE ARE BRINGING IT, WRITING IT, WRITING THAT UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL COME TO THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE ERIS IS GONNA BE GONE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
AND, UH, BUT I WANT TO HAVE HER HERE WITH ME WHILE WE DISCUSS IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, PURSUING THIS, UH, NEW ZONING CHANGE.
BUT IT IS A ZONING CHANGE THAT IT WILL BE INITIATED BY YOU.
UH, AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT AND EXPLAIN WHY WE ARE DOING IT TO YOU.
SO IT WON'T, YOU KNOW, SAY HAVE A BIG, OH, THEY SHOULDN'T DO THAT.
BUT IT'S NOTHING BUT HOMES THERE.
AND IT'S, SO WE NEED TO CHANGE IT TO RESIDENTIAL.
'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE COMING TO COME INTO, UH, BUILD THERE AND, AND THEY'VE HAD THIS PROPERTY FOR A WHILE.
AND, UH, SO THEY SAID THEY'RE RETIRING.
THEY WANNA COME BUILD A HOUSE THERE AND THEN FIND OUT THEY CAN'T.
WOW, WE WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO WORK LIKE THAT.
SO WE GONNA BRING IT TO YOU TO INITIATE THE ZONE CHANGE AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THESE PEOPLE CAN GET THEIR HOMES BUILT IN A, A TIMELY FASHION.
I THINK ERIC SAID SOMETHING AND PROBABLY ABOUT SOMETHING OUT AT PLEASURE ISLAND MIGHT BE A REZONING OUT THERE.
WELL, UM, THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSIONS, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THAT WENT.
I KNOW THIS HAS GONE FURTHER THAN, YOU KNOW,
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK ON IT AND COME BACK.
BUT THERE MAY BE SEVERAL ITEMS ON IT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, PAM MAY LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS AT THE SAME TIME TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING DOES.
SO, UH, I DID SEND HER, UH, A COPY OF THE MAP AND, AND, AND ASKED HER TO LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE ALL THE CHANGES AT ONCE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK AND DOING IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
YOU HONOR, OBJECTION, PERMISSION.
ON THE 15TH IS THE NEXT MEETING.
AND I THINK WE HAVE THREE CASES AT THAT MEETING.
ONE ZONING CASE AND I, I THINK TWO, UH, REPLANTS.
ANY OTHER PROBLEMS? NO, THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU MR. HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UH, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT'S GOING UP ON HIGHWAY 73 AND 40 ACRES NEXT TO THE HOTEL? SEE A BROKEN GROUND OR SOMETHING? UH, ERIC AND I, WE PASSED BY THERE BEFORE.
WE DID A REPLAY OF THAT A WHILE BACK.
AND WE DID A REZO AND I THINK A WHILE BACK, AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A CONVENIENCE STORE.
NOW THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING RIGHT NEXT TO THAT, UH, HOTEL.
AND, UH, THEY'RE CLEARING IT UP.
THEY DON'T NEED A PERMIT AT THIS TIME TO CLEAR IT, CLEAR SOMETHING.
UH, SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING.
THEY HAVEN'T COME FOR A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING AS OF YET, UH, BETWEEN THE, THE, UH, THE
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HOTEL AND THE RV.AND THEY GOT, THEY'RE CLEARING IT OUT.
SO, BUT I'LL LET YOU KNOW AS SOON AS I ANOTHER HOTEL.
I KNOW I ANOTHER HOTEL HASN'T COME HERE FOR THAT YET.
AND I WENT TO, UH, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR TO SEE IF THEY HAD GOTTEN A, UH, A PERMIT FOR DOING SOMETHING, BUT THEY HADN'T AS OF YET.
SO, UH, WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP, 'CAUSE S AND I PASSED BY THERE THIS MORNING AND WE LOOKED AT IT, WE SAID, WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
UH, BUT UNTIL THEY, UH, GET A PERMIT, WE WON'T, THEY, WE WON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING.
NO, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PARKING RIDE.
WE, WE CAN, YEAH, WE, I CAN DEFINITELY SAY THAT THEY MAKE MONEY.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OTHERWISE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE.
I MOTION BY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.