* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. AND [00:00:02] HOW'S EVERYONE DOING TODAY? UH, THIS MEETING [1. Establishment of quorum and call to order.] OF THE CHURCH NUMBER ONE WILL BE HELD AND THE MEETING OF THE PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 15 AT 3:00 PM. WE'RE A LITTLE LATE. THE TIME IS 3 23. UH, THIS MEETING ALSO COULD BE HELD WITH TELEPHONIC AND VIDEO CONFERENCE IN ADDITION TO ALLOW PERSONS IN ATTENDANCE, RECORDING IN PROGRESS. UH, OH, WE GOOD RESTART ITSELF. HEY, RESTART IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD. UH, THE TIME IS 3 23. I'M GONNA NOW ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY, UH, IF SHE CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM SO WE CAN START THIS MEETING CITY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU. UM, I WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS KEN LAW, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR CHAIRMAN PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER, CHARLOTTE, MOSES CITY OF PORT ARTHUR HERE, MAYOR CITY OF PORT ARTHUR THURMAN. BARTE MAYORS OUT TODAY. COUNTY COMMISSIONER MICHAEL SHANE SENEGAL, JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSIONER JEFFERSON COUNTY DRAINAGE, DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN. JAMES GAMBLE. YEAH. COMMISSIONER SABINE, NACHES NAVIGATION DISTRICT. JOSEPH JOHNSON. YES. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER RANDY T. MARTIN FROM THE PORT OF PORT ARTHUR NAVIGATION DISTRICT HERE. UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. HEY, THANK YOU, VAL. UH, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I THINK I OMITTED TO VACATION, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MOSES. WOULD YOU DO THAT FOR US REAL QUICKLY, PLEASE? FATHER JESUS. THANK GOD. THIS OPPORTUNITY GIVEN TO SERVE FATHER PRAY THAT THIS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THANK YOU. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, MOSES FOR THAT INVOCATION IN PLEDGE OF LESIONS. UH, NEXT [2. Approval of Minutes from the previous TIRZ Board Meeting held on August 18, 2022.] WE HAVE IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. THE PREVIOUS TUR, UH, BOARD MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON AUGUST 18TH, 2022. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE MEETINGS? OH MY LORD. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? IT WAS MOVED IN SECOND THAT WE ACCEPT THE MEETINGS FROM AUGUST 18TH, 2022. ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS I NOW CALLED FOR OF VOTE ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY I A AVER SIGN FIVE BY CNI. AH, THOSE OPPOSED THE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN APPROVED. NEXUS [3. Welcoming of the new Board Member from the Port of Port Arthur Navigation District and comments.] NUMBER THREE, WELCOME TO THE NEW BRAND NEW WELCOMING OF THE NEW BOARD MEMBER FROM THE PORT, ARTHUR, UH, NAVIGATION DISTRICT. ANY COMMENTS, UH, CITY ATTORNEY YOU WANT, WANT TO LEAD HIM INTO THAT? UH, YES. UH, AS WE KNOW, BY OUR NEW, UM, EXPANSION OF BOUNDARIES AND, UH, WE'VE ALSO ADDED, UM, AT THE NEXT LAST COUNCIL MEETING ACCEPTING, UH, WITH THE EXPANSION, UH, AN ADDITIONAL ENTITY, WHICH IS THE PORT OF PORT ARTHUR NAVIGATION DISTRICT. AND THEY HAVE APPOINTED COMMISSIONER, UH, RANDY T. MARTIN TO SERVE AND REPRESENT THEM. AND, UH, WE JUST APPRECIATE HIM BEING HERE. AND TODAY IS HIS FIRST MEETING AND WE WANTED TO WELCOME HIM AND SEE IF HE WOULD HAVE ANY REMARKS THAT HE'D LIKE TO MAKE AS OUR NEWEST MEMBER. ALL EVERYONE DOING HOPE. Y'ALL DOING GOOD. Y'ALL LOOKING GOOD. UH, OKAY. BUT I FIRST OFF LIKE TO THANK GOD FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE, TO, UH, WORK WITH YOU ALL. UH, I COME HERE FOR NO OTHER REASON, BUT TO DO THAT, I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL. AND EVERY TIME WE SIT AND EVERY TIME WE MEET, I HOPE AND I PRAY THAT WE GET SOMETHING DONE. THAT'S IT. OKAY, MAN, OF, UH, SHORT WORDS. I LIKE THAT. UH, THANK YOU, MR. MARTIN. AND WE, WE DO, UH, UH, ALSO WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR ENTITIES AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, CITY ATTORNEY FOR THAT INTRO. UH, NEXT [4. Update regarding the expansion of the TIRZ boundaries.] WE HAVE NUMBER FOUR, UH, UPDATE BIG REGARDING EXPANSION OF THE TE BOUNDARIES. DID YOU WANT TO EXPOUND ON THAT CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL? YES. AT THE LAST MEETING I BELIEVE, OR TWO MEETINGS AGO, THE, UM, CITY COUNCIL WENT THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE EXPANSION OF THE BOUNDARIES. UM, WE HAD AN EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION WITH THE NEW MAP AND, UH, WHERE WE WOULD BE EXPANDING INTO THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PORT IN THE, UM, AREA, UH, HARSH PART OF THE WEST SIDE CROSSING HOUSTON AVENUE. SO ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE'VE OFFICIALLY EXPANDED THOSE BOUNDARIES. AND NOW, YOU KNOW, TODAY, ALONG WITH TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECTS, WE WILL ALSO [00:05:01] TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS WE CAN DO NOW THAT WE HAVE ENLARGED OUR, UH, AREA. I DIDN'T KNOW IF, UH, ANYONE ELSE FROM THE LEGAL TEAM, NO ONE WANTS TO EXPAND UPON THAT, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT AGAIN, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, TALK ABOUT PROJECTS THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE NEW BOUNDARIES, WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT DOING MORE THINGS. UM, SO, UH, THAT IS OFFICIAL. WE HAVE DONE THAT AND MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY ARCH. YOU WANT TO CHIME IN? YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? NO, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. ART, UH, BOARD MEMBERS. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHILE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE BOUNDARIES? OKAY. WELL, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, LET'S GO TO [5. To discuss the proposed projects in the Downtown TIRZ.] NUMBER FIVE TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED PROJECTS IN THE DOWNTOWN TERMS. UH, I GUESS IT'S BACK ON YOU CITY ATTORNEY BACK ON ME. OKAY. SO YEAH, THIS IS, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE UPDATED OUR BOUNDARIES AND, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR FINANCIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND ONE OF THE, OKAY, YOU TALKING ABOUT, YES, WE'VE UPDATED EVERYTHING WITH THE COMPT CONTROLLER'S OFFICE. UH, WE HAD TO DO SOME VERIFICATIONS TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S THERE. I ACTUALLY BROUGHT THE SUPER THICK FILE IF YOU, EVERYONE NEEDS TO SEE IT WHERE OUR FINANCES ARE UP TO DATE. AND MR. ALLEN DID REPORT ON THAT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH WE'RE UP TO DATE WITH EVERYTHING WE SPOKE WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE EARLIER THIS WEEK TO MAKE SURE, UH, THEY HAD A FEW QUESTIONS AND, UH, WE PRINTED EVERYTHING OUT. WE HAVE THEM AVAILABLE. WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA TURN THIS FILE. UH, THESE VERY THICK FILE WITH ALL OF OUR, UP TO DATE, FINANCES OVER TO THE CITY SECRETARY A LITTLE BIT LATER TODAY. SO THEY'LL HAVE IT ON FILE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT IT. UM, SO AT THIS POINT, UH, NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN IN COMPLIANCE, I THINK THE BIT, AND NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR NEW MEMBER, A BOARD, I THINK THAT THE, THE BULK OF OUR MEETING, WE COULD TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN HAVE MORE PROJECTS IN THE AREA. UM, BECAUSE I GUESS THE MORE PROJECTS, THE MORE WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET FINANCES IN AND INCREASE OUR FUNDS, UH, IN ORDER TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ALSO, UH, WE HAVE OUR WEBSITE AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TALKING TO SOME PEOPLE ABOUT EXPANDING THE MARKETING SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW WE ARE HERE. BUT, UM, I THINK TODAY WE WANTED TO CENTER OUR DISCUSSION ON, UM, HOW DO WE GET THE PROJECTS? UH, WE HAVE ONE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND HOW DO WE NOW GROW? THAT'S THE CENTER OF OUR CON CONVERSATION FOR TODAY. OKAY. WELL, COME ON THE PER TIME MIGHT BE BACK THIS TIME. YEAH, GOOD. HE HE'S READY THIS TIME. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE MY, MY SITUATION. I KNOW I'VE, YOU KNOW, COMMENTED BEFORE ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT ARE HERE. HOW DO YOU PUT PROJECTS AND PRIORITY OR PRIORITY LIST TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE HAS A PIECE OF THE PIE AT THE SAME TIME, THAT'S PUTTING MONEY IN THAT PIE TO GET PROJECTS DONE AND NOT, UH, DO OVERLAP PROJECTS WITH OTHER ENTITIES. WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU HELPED DEVELOP THE PROJECT PLAN. WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE PRIMARILY THE, THE CURRENT PROJECT PLAN HAS BEEN BASICALLY A CITY PLAN BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE CITY DEVELOPED THE PLAN, IT WAS A DOWNTOWN PLAN. IT WAS BASICALLY THE CITY WAS PUTTING IN THE MAJORITY OF MONEY. SO IT WAS JUST STEERED TOWARD IT BEING A, A CITY PLAN. WHAT, WHAT THE HOPE IS IS THAT WE CAN GET INPUT FROM ALL OF, ALL OF THE ENTITIES ON THE PLAN. AND AS THEY GET INPUT ON THE PLAN, THEY MAY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PLAN BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HELP THEM. SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE DO NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR PLAN AND FOR EACH ONE OF THE ENTITIES TO, TO, TO GO BACK TO YOUR ENTITY, THINK ABOUT THOSE PLANS THAT YOU THINK THAT USING THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL WOULD HELP YOUR ENTITY AND, AND INCLUDE THAT, THAT PLAN IN OUR PLAN, THAT PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE THERE INCLUDED, INCLUDED IN OUR PLAN. AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING AT SOME OTHER TIME, OR AS, AS WE CAN GET THE FUNDING. BUT THOSE LONG TERM PLANS THAT YOU HAVE FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR ENTITY, THAT'S GOING TO GONNA HELP THE ZONE AND HELP YOUR ENTITY BRING THOSE FROM YOUR BODY. SO WE CAN PLACE SOME IN THIS PLAN SO THAT WHEN WE'RE NOT HERE AND THAT, THAT, UH, PROJECT CAME UP FROM THE POOR OR ONE OF THE NAVIGATION DISTRICTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND YOU SAY, WELL, WE GOT PART OF THE FUNDING, BUT, UH, HOW WE'RE GONNA FUND IT. WELL, THIS TOOL, THIS TUR TOOL MAY BE JUST THE THING FOR YOU. FOR INSTANCE, YOU GOT LAND OUT THERE THAT YOU WANT TO, THAT YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH IT. WELL, THIS TUR TOO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE HOOPS THAT YOU NORMALLY HAVE TO DO TO TRANSFER LAND. THERE'S AN, THERE'S AN EXCEPTION FROM ALL THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT, THAT YOU GUYS NORMALLY HAVE TO HAVE, EXCEPT FOR YOU. CAN'T BASICALLY GIVE IT AWAY. AND ALL OF THOSE, THERE'S AN EXCEPTION FOR THAT FOR TUR LAND AND A, THE TERMS YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRANSFER AT EQUAL VALUE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRANSFER AT AT [00:10:01] VALUE. YOU CAN, YOU CAN TRANSFER IT. IF YOU GETTING SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT VALUE IN THOSE, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS MAY HELP YOU EACH OTHER ENTITIES IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT. YOU GOT SOME LAND THAT YOU WANT ACQUIRED TO BRING INTO TO THIS NAVIGATION DISTRICT, OR BRING IN, BRING INTO THE, TO THE PORT. AND, AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN TRANSFER THAT. YOU CAN TRANSFER IT THROUGH THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT YOU GUYS TO START THINKING OF LONG RANGE FOR YOUR ENTITY. HOW DO YOU USE THIS TOOL IN ORDER TO HELP YOU WITH DEVELOPMENT? SO ANY QUESTIONS, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO ARE WE, ARE, IS IT YOUR, IS IT, UH, YOUR OPINION THAT WE NEED TO COME WITH, UH, SOME TYPE OF PROJECT, UH, JUST INDIVIDUALLY AS YES. YES. AND THEN BRING THEM TOGETHER. YES. OKAY. BRING, BRING, BRING YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PROJECTS OR PROPOSED PROJECTS, EVEN THOSE THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, THINKING ABOUT WORKING ON THAT, THAT YOU HAVE, CUZ WE ALL HAVE AT EACH ONE OF OUR ENTITIES, WE ALL HAVE SOME PROJECTS. THAT'S JUST BEEN ON THE BACK BURNER BECAUSE THERE WASN'T FUNDING FOR 'EM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU ADOPTED THIS PLAN, YOU WERE GONNA DO THIS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE, HAVE THE FUNDING FOR, WELL, THAT'S THE PLAN THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IF YOU CAN GET YOUR ENTITY TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE, IN THE PROJECT PLAN, AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT A WAY THAT USING THIS TOOL, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE MAY CAN FUND THAT LONG TERM? MAYBE, MAYBE WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE CONTRIBUTION. MAYBE NOT BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE ARE OTHER ENTITIES THAT, THAT, THAT THE CITY CAN USE IN THIS TERMS THAT, THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN BOND IT AND YOU CAN USE, UH, CONDUIT BONDING IN ORDER, IN ORDER TO HELP SOME OF THESE OTHER, OTHER ENTITIES WITH THE PROJECT THAT YOU MAY HAVE. IT MAY BE A, MAY BE A PROJECT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THAT YOU CAN FUND IT THROUGH THE TOUR AND, AND GET, GET A BETTER BUY BUY FOR YOUR BUCKS ON THAT. SO, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING EACH OF YOU FROM YOUR ENTITIES TO COME UP WITH THOSE LONG TERM PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IN THAT, IN THAT 20 YEAR PLAN OR IN THAT, THAT 25 YEAR PLAN, THOSE THAT ARE JUST SITTING THERE, LET'S TRY TO PUT THOSE IN, IN THIS PLAN TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN BRING THOSE ON QUICKER. OKAY. BOARD MEMBERS, QUESTION COACH GA. YEAH. UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS, DRAINAGE, DISTRICT SEVEN. WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS, UH, BECAUSE WE DEAL WITH WATER FLOODING AND ALL THAT DIFFERENT TYPE OF STUFF. BUT WE ALSO DEAL WITH, UH, UH, OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW, ON ALL, ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, UH, HERE IN PORT ARTHUR, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I'M WONDERING HOW WE CAN, WE CAN INCLUDE WHAT I, I GUESS WE CAN, WE CAN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING. THAT'S NOT IN PORT ARTHUR. SO DID THAT'S YOU, YOU, YOU CAN, THERE'S JUST A WAY THAT, THAT YOU HAVE TO, IF IT'S, IF IT'S CONNECTED, LIKE PART OF IT, MAYBE, ESPECIALLY WITH DRAINAGE, WELL, YOU GOT, YOU GOT DRAINAGE AS, AS YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE IS NOT JUST STATIC. YOU KNOW, WATER COMES HERE AND IT RUNS DOWNHILL OR YOU, OR YOU PUMP IT, PUMP IT UPHILL, RIGHT. IF YOU GOT A DRAINAGE DRAINAGE PROBLEM HERE, THE WILLIAMS HAVE, THEN, THEN THE PER TOWELS MAY HAVE A PROBLEM DOWNSTREAM. WELL, THE WILLIAMS, THEY MAY FIND THEIRS, WHICH IS, WHICH IS ANOTHER NAVIGATION DISTRICT OR ANOTHER CITY. AND THEN THE CITY FOUND THE REST OF THAT. SO, SO YOU CAN DO JOINT JOINT PROJECTS LIKE THAT THROUGH THE TUR, THE PART THAT'S IN THE TUR OR THAT AFFECTS THE TUR, CUZ ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE TUR AS A, AS A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL, IT'S, IT'S KIND LOOSE WHEN IT, IT, IT DOESN'T SAY YOU CAN ONLY DO IT. IF IT'S IN THE ZONE, YOU CAN DO PROJECTS THAT AFFECT THE ZONE. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO, HAS TO BE EXCLUSIVELY IN THE ZONE, BUT IT, IF IT AFFECTS THE ZONE, YOU CAN ALSO DO THOSE PROJECTS. SO YOU MAY HAVE A JOINT PROJECT THAT ALL OF IT MAY NOT BE IN THE ZONE, BUT WHAT IT DOES, IT AFFECTS THE ZONE. FOR INSTANCE, IF DRAINAGE IS GOING, GOING THROUGH THERE. AND EVEN THOUGH MOST OF IT WASN'T, OR MAYBE NONE OF IT IS, IS IN, IN THE CITY, BUT THE PART THAT YOU DO, IT'S GOING TO GONNA MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE DRAINING, LIKE YOU DOING, DOING DETENTION, THAT DETENTION IS THEN GOING TO GOING, UH, RESTRICT PART OF THE FLOW INTO THE AREA THAT'S IN THE ZONE. YOU CAN DO THOSE PROJECTS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY IN THE ZONE, BUT IT AFFECTS THE ZONE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. AND 1, 1, 1 EXAMPLE THAT WE DID THAT, THAT I I'VE DONE LIKE THAT DONE LIKE THAT BEFORE WAS WE ENDED UP BUYING LAND UPSTREAM WHEN I WAS IN WACO UPSTREAM BECAUSE THEY HAD A, HAD [00:15:01] A RIVER THAT COME DOWN THE BOSKY RIVER THAT, THAT COMES DOWN AND IT, IT WOULD, UH, START AT OUR LAKE AND AT OUR LAKE, WE WERE HAVING TASTING OLDER PROBLEMS BECAUSE THE DAIRY FARMS UPSTREAM, WHEN THAT STUFF WOULD COME DOWN, IT WOULD CAUSE A, A BLOOM. AND WHEN FROM THE CHLOR CHLORO FIELD, IF CAUSE A BLOOM, SO IT CAUSES TASTE AND OD PROBLEM. SO WHAT WE END UP DOING FROM THE TUR FROM THE TURMAN IS, IS BUYING LAND UPSTREAM THAT, THAT WE COULD USE TO USE AS A FILTER. SO WE BOUGHT, SO WE BOUGHT LAND UPSTREAM RIGHT OFF, RIGHT OFF THE, THE RIVER UP OFF THE BOSQUE RIVER SO THAT WHEN IT COMES THROUGH THAT IT WOULD HELP SOME OF THAT. SO THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN DO IT WHERE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY RIGHT. DIRECTLY IMPACT THOSE THINGS THAT CAN INDIRECTLY IMPACT AS LONG AS IT IMPACTS LONG AS IT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE ZONE. OKAY. YEAH. WELL, UH, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW I'M TRYING TO, TO SEE THIS, YOU SEE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE TALKING PROJECTS IN A CERTAIN AREA OF THE CITY. SO IF, IF MY ENTITY IS NOT DEVELOPING A PROJECT WITHIN, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THE CITY, WHAT YEAH. WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND WE CAN HELP YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR ENTITY STAFF. IS, IS THERE A, A PROJECT THAT YOUR ENTITY IS HAVING THAT IMPACTS THE ZONE DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE IN THE ZONE, BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE ZONE, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE DRAINAGE OR THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. IS IT GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT? AND THEN YOU LOOK AT, AT, IS IT GOING TO, GOING TO MAKE THE IMPACT LESS, IF IT'S A NEGATIVE IMPACT, IS IT GONNA MAKE THE NEGATIVE IMPACT LESS WITH THE PROJECT? IS IT IF IT'S POSITIVE IMPACT, WILL IT MAKE THE IMPACT MORE BY THIS DRAINAGE DISTRICT PROJECT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND, AND, AND NOT ALL PROJECTS ARE GONNA DO THAT, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING FROM YOUR ENTITY TO SEE WHAT PROJECTS THAT YOUR ENTITY HAS THAT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE, THE TOURIST ZONE. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, BRING THE CITY MANAGER IN, I THINK WE ARE WORKING, WE WORKING ON SOMETHING WITH THE CITY ON ONE OF THE PUMP STATIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA HERE ARE DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SEA. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE, UM, WHAT'S THAT PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE BY THE COAST GUARD? UM, NOT BY THE COAST GUARD, THE COVE ENGINEERS OR THE, THE CO ENGINEERS JUST, UM, ON, ON TUESDAY. YES, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE, UM, DD SEVEN, UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAS TO BE DONE RIGHT. AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LEVY, UM, WITH THE COAST GUARD AND WITH THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT. SO YES, YES YOU ARE. AND, AND THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS. AND AS YOU KNOW, WITH ALL PROJECTS, IT'S, IT COMES DOWN, COMES DOWN TO FUNDING. YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE, THERE MAY BE AN INCIDENT, UH, INCIDENT WHERE, WHERE MAYBE CUZ YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS PROJECT THAT YOU WOULD, YOU'D WANT TO INCREASE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CONTRIBUTION OR INCREASE CONTRIBUTION SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THAT PROJECT. AND, AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO THAT. IF IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT YOU FINANCIALLY TO DO THAT, IF BASED ON THE PROJECT, YOUR CONTRIBUTION THROUGH THAT MECHANISM IS GOING TO HELP YOU WITH THE FINANCIAL PROJECT. YOU MAY WANT TO DO THAT, BUT YOU LOOK AT THAT TO DECIDE AND YOUR PROFESSIONALS WILL LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF IT'S GONNA BE BENEFICIAL FOR YOU TO DO THAT. CAUSE SOMETIME IT DEPENDS ON, ON NOT HOW MUCH MONEY YOU SPEND, BUT HOW YOU SPEND THE MONEY, WHICH, WHICH TOOL YOU USE TO SPEND THE MONEY. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOUR ENTITY HAS TO LOOK AT AND WEIGH, RIGHT? WELL, UH, MOST OF OUR PROJECTS, IF NOT, NOT MOST ALL OF OUR PROJECTS HAVE BEEN FUNDED BY TAXPAYERS MONEY. YES. YOU SEE. YES. BUT, AND, AND ALL OF, ALL OF, ALL OF OUR PROJECTS WILL, WILL BE EXCEPT FOR, FOR A POINT. UH, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN YOU DECIDE THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO A PROJECT TO ACQUIRE, ACQUIRE SOME LAND, AND THEN THE WAY THAT THE WAY THAT YOU ACQUIRE THE LAND FOR THIS DRAINAGE, FOR YOUR DRAINAGE, BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND THEN YOU, YOU GOING AND ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO WITH TERMS POWERS THAT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO WITH YOUR DISTRICT POWERS SIMPLY BECAUSE THE TERMS BY STATUTE HAS [00:20:01] MORE EXPANSIVE POWERS THAN MOST OTHER DISTRICTS THAT ARE, THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED. SO THAT'S WHY YOU, YOU TRY TO LOOK AT THAT. ALL OF US ARE ALL USING TAX DOLLARS. EVERY, EVERY ONE, EVERY ENTITY HERE, WE ARE ALL TAX BASED, BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE ENTITIES SUCH AS THAT, THE DETER THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO UNDER THE TUR THAT YOU CAN'T DO AS A NAVIGATION DISTRICT THAT YOU CAN ONLY DO WITH TUR POWER. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA LOOK AT TO SEE IF A PROJECT IS ONE OF THOSE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERY PROJECT, BUT THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY THOSE PROJECTS, FOR INSTANCE, UH, LIKE WITH THE, WITH, WITH THE PORT WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU HAVE, WHERE YOU HAVE THESE PROJECTS WHERE YOU WANT TO QUIET THIS LAND, YOU WANT TO LEASE THAT LAND OUT TO FOR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, THE ACQUISITION AND THE LEASE OF THOSE, THAT, THAT TYPE OF PROPERTY. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE TUR WAS DESIGNED TO DO. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO TO HELP IN THAT REDEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT, THAT THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THAT. THE REDEVELOPMENT, THE ACQUISITION OF LAND, HAVING THAT LAND, HOLDING IT STILL IN, IN FEE SIMPLE WHILE, WHILE, WHILE LEASING IT OUT. SO YOU STILL GET TAXED ON IT. SO THEY STILL HAVE TO PAY THOSE TAXES. WELL, I'M GUESS I'M TOO CLOSE. WHO, WHO YOUR PHONE? YOUR PHONE? NO, IT WASN'T. NO, THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY I'M I'M I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN MIDLAND, SO I TALK REAL LOUD. SO THAT'S PROBABLY IT, BUT, BUT NO, BUT THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF SEE, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT TOOL AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS LIKE THAT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE TO USE THOSE TYPE OF POWERS WHEN, WHEN WE CAN. AND THAT'S ONE, LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT, HAVING, HAVING THOSE ENTITIES THERE, WHERE YOU GOT PEOPLE OPERATING IN YOUR, ON, ON YOUR PROPERTY STILL, BUT, BUT YOU'RE STILL ABLE, ABLE TO TAX THAT, LEASE WHOLE INTEREST AND DO ALL THOSE THINGS. THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S THE SWEET SPOT. THAT'S THE SWEET SPOT OF A TUR. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO. SO YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE FROM HERE? THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER, UH, CITY MANAGER? YEAH. SO OUT ON THE HEELS OF THAT, UM, WE, AS A TAX ENTITY, UM, WE SHOULD, AND AS A CITY, WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT AND NOT USE IT FOR CITY PUBLIC FACILITIES. YES. AS YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THAT PROVIDES A RETURN, A TAX RETURN FOR US. YES. IN THE TURDS. YES. MY, MY ADVICE AND MY EXPERIENCE IN DOING THIS IS THAT, IS THAT TUR TE'S MONEY SHOULD, SHOULD, SHOULD NEVER BE USED FOR A CLEARLY JUST SOLELY PUBLIC BUILDING BECAUSE YOU GOT OTHER MONEY TO, TO DO THAT. AND THE, AND THE, AND THE TUR MONEY, JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE. AND MY RECOMMENDATION ALWAYS BEEN, SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE GOVERNMENTAL BODIES MONEY, NOT JUST EX EXPEND MONEY, BUT, BUT TO MAKE, BUT TO MAKE THE MONEY. I MEAN, YOU, YOU COULD, YOU COULD BUILD A CITY HALL, YOU COULD BUILD A, A PERMIT BUILDING. YOU COULD DO THAT. BUT, BUT WHY, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GONNA MAKE YOU MORE MONEY, EVEN THOUGH, AND I MADE THAT LEGAL ARGUMENT BEFORE, WELL, YOU GOT PERMITTING. PERMITTING HELPS, HELPS THE BUILDING PROCESS. SO YOU GOT THIS REAL, REAL NICE PERMIT BUILDING, SITTING THERE IN THE, IN, IN THE TUR. BUT THAT WHOLE BIG BUILDING RIGHT THERE, THAT'S, THERE'S FOUR STORIES AND, AND, AND HUNDRED, 200, 300,000 SQUARE FEET, NOT ONE PENNY AVALO TAX MM-HMM, NOT ONE, NOT ONE. AND HERE YOU ARE, YOU'VE TAKEN THIS PROPERTY THAT, THAT, THAT YOU COULD HAVE, COULD HAVE GOT AVA ALARM TAX OFF OF, AND YOU GOT THIS REAL, PRETTY CITY PERMIT BUILDING FOR ALL YOUR INSPECTION STUFF AND ALL DOING IS JUST THROWING MONEY IN. IT'S NOT MAKING YOU MONEY. IT MAY MAKE YOU SOME MONEY. CAUSE YOU GOT YOUR PERMIT STAFF THERE, BUT NOT NEAR THE MONEY THAT, THAT YOU GET OFF OF ONE YEAR OF AVA, LONG TAXES. MM-HMM THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. UM, YOU GOOD CITY MANAGER. YEAH. WELL, HOPEFULLY ON THE HILLS OF THAT, WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS B HOTEL AND SEE, OH, WE DO. YEAH. YEAH. THOSE ARE THOSE. THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS. LAY THAT IN THERE. SO ARE YOU SAYING WE CAN'T LOOK AT THE SAME BEING HOTEL? YEAH. YEAH. THOSE, THOSE ARE THE ONES YOU WANT. YOU WANT THOSE TYPE. YOU WANT TO TAKE THOSE THAT WERE, THAT WERE, THAT WERE WE, WE HAD, IT WAS IN OUR CONTROL AND IT WAS, IT WAS NON-TAXABLE AND, AND NOW, NOW IT'S WORTH A MILLION MILLION DOLLARS. YEAH. I MEAN, THOSE, THOSE ARE THE TYPE THAT, THAT YOU WANT TO DO. YOU WANT TO INCENTIVIZE THOSE TYPE OF, OF PROJECTS TO COME HERE? YEAH. YOU PUT A LITTLE BIT, YOU [00:25:01] PUT A LITTLE BIT OF PUBLIC MONEY IN, AND THEN YOU, YOU GET A LOT MORE IN THE, IN THE AVALO TAX FOR ALL THE ENTITIES. YOU, YOU BRING THAT ENTITY THAT WAS SITTING IN THAT DILAPIDATED COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL BUILDING. THAT'S SITTING ON SITTING ON THE, ON THE TAX ROAD FOR, FOR $3,000, CUZ THEY JUST DIDN'T PUT ON IT CUZ IT'S BEEN TAGGED AND IT REALLY HAS NO HAS NO VALUE. YOU, YOU PUT A LITTLE MONEY IN IT AND THEN THEY TRANSFER THAT, THAT OWNERSHIP INTO THE PRIVATE PRIVATE SECTOR, EVEN THOUGH IT'S STILL DILAPIDATED. NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT BUILDING, WHICH WAS WORTH $2,000 ON THE TAX ROLL IS NOW WORTH $500,000. THEN THE NEXT TIME IS WORTH $700,000. AND SO IT KEEPS, IT KEEPS GROWING AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. OKAY. YEAH, OF COURSE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I JUST WAS GONNA SAY WE ALSO, WITH THAT, WE'LL BE WORKING ON BUILDING UP OUR FUNDS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR OTHER BIG PRIORITY WHERE AS WE GET THOSE PROJECTS, THEN WE CAN GET MORE FUNDS. UH, OKAY. WILL WE, WILL WE BE IN ORDERED TO FIND OUT WHAT WE HAVE NOW OR DO WE, DO YOU WANT, YOU THINK IT WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO DISCUSS THAT NOW? OR WHAT DO YOU, UH, I THINK WE COULD STILL DISCUSS IT UNDER PROJECT CANDIES. HERE WE CAN. OKAY. WE GIVE US AN UPDATE. OKAY. UH, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, MOSES. YEAH. I JUST WANNA SAY ART, THANK YOU FOR, UM, EXPLAINING THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE COMPANIES, UM, SOME OF THE COUNTERPART, I MEAN, PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE HERE THAT ARE PART OF THE TERMS TO PUT THEIR PROJECTS AND, AND TRY TO, I THINK IT'S AWESOME. YEAH. YEAH. GREAT. THAT INFORMATION IS REAL GOOD. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, BOARD MEMBERS. OKAY. UH, MS. CANDY, WOULD YOU COME ON UP? I DO HAVE SOME COPIES AND I MAY, I MAY HAVE KINDA BUDGET LIKE WE DID JUST ADOPT, UM, CITY'S BUDGET, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. SO, UH, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT IT IS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSED ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR WE PROPOSE 50, 54,700 IN REVENUES FROM THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES. AND THEN WE JUST PLUGGED IN SOME NUMBERS LIKE MAYBE 10,000 FOR OPERATIONS. IF YOU WANT TO SPEND THAT FOR, UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT SIGNAGE AND A FEW, YOU KNOW, SMALLER THINGS. UH, THESE ARE JUST ESTIMATES WE PUT IN THERE AND THEN 50,000 FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, WE DID TRANSFER 50,000 OVER THIS CURRENT YEAR TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO THERE IS CURRENTLY SITTING IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, WAITING TO BE SPENT, UM, FROM TERRORS, UH, FOR $50,000 RIGHT NOW. UM, THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE BEGINNING AND SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE. SO WE HAVE, UM, 50,000 PLUS A $24,800, UH, FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. SO WE HAVE 70, 75,000 ROUGHLY ALREADY. UM, AND WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANYTHING. SO, UM, AND THEN WE ANTICIPATE TO ADD 50,000 IN REVENUES AGAIN THIS YEAR TO THAT NUMBER. SO WE SHOULD HAVE AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND, $120,000, UH, TO SPEND, OKAY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK, THAT KIND OF OUTLINES THE, WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, WE HAVE IT IN WITH OUR DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION, BUT THIS BREAKS IT OUT, UH, 4 MILLION, WE HAVE PUT OVER THERE FOR FIBER OPTICS AND THAT'S AN ED GRANT. UM, AND THEN WE, THE GENERAL FUND HAD PUT IN ANOTHER MILLION FOR ROADWAY, TRAFFIC AND TREAT STREET SCAPES. I THINK A LOT OF THAT WAS PARKING LOTS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THAT MILLION WE'VE SPENT THE MAJORITY OF THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE THE 50,000 THAT WE PUT OVER THIS YEAR. UH, AND WITH NEXT YEAR THERE WOULD BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND FROM THE TURS FUNDING. SO THAT'S WHAT I GOT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? UH, BOARD MEMBERS? YES. I HAVE A QUESTION. UH, COMMISSION JO. YES. UH, YES SIR. IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE REVENUES, I SEE THAT THE PORT OF PORT ISN'T ON THAT LIST. AND SO THAT, I THINK THAT THIS BUDGET NEEDS TO BE AMENDED. WELL, IT'S NOT GONNA BE BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR TAX YEAR UHHUH, THEY WON'T COME ON UNTIL THE NEXT TAX YEAR. OKAY. SO IT'LL BE THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BEFORE WE GET ANY REVENUE FROM THE PORT. OKAY. I BELIEVE. [00:30:01] YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A REAL QUICK QUESTION. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MOSES, THANKS. UM, I'M SORRY, CHAIRMAN TO OUR, UH, CITY ATTORNEY. ARE WE GONNA, I KNOW WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANYTHING, BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING SOMETHING ON MARKETING TO CREATE FLYERS AND YEAH. BROCHURES AND, UM, THINGS SO PEOPLE COULD KNOW WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PEOPLE STILL WONDERING TERMS. WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, EVEN WHAT IT STANDS FOR, YOU KNOW, SO I KNOW YOU PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE, UM, BUT HOW WOULD WE MARKET THE TUR TO ATTRACT OTHER, YOU KNOW, OTHER ENTITIES OR PEOPLE, DEVELOPERS, OR PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD WANT TO COME OUT SOME TYPE OF A BROCHURE FLYER, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SAY THAT. SO WE, WE HAVE THE MONEY. UM, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A LINE ITEM. WE, WE, AT FIRST WE HAD TALKED ABOUT GETTING SOMEONE TO HELP US WITH MARKETING. SO THAT'S A THING WE WOULD EXPLORE AND THE BROCHURE WOULD BE GOOD. AND THEN I HAVE BEEN KIND OF FOLLOWING OTHER TOUR, UH, HOW THEY'VE BEEN DOING THINGS. AND LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GONNA SUGGEST, UM, IS THAT LIKE HAVING DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND INVITING PEOPLE TO HEAR ABOUT THE TOUR, MAYBE LIKE SOMETHING WORKING WITH THE CHAMBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK A BROCHURE WOULD BE GOOD. AND THEN HAVING A PLAN ON HOW TO GET THAT OUT. AND THEN MAYBE LIKE YOU SAID, COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND MAYBE INVOLVING THE, UM, THE CHAMBERS. SO BUSINESSES WILL REALLY BE ABLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT, BUT WHAT THE BENEFIT OF BEING IN THE TERMS IS I THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING VISIBLE THAT SOMEBODY CAN SEE BEFORE YOU HAVE A MEETING. AND WHEN I GO TO, TO A COMMUNITY MEETING, I WANNA BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT IT COVERS, WHAT IT DOES, WHAT INCENTIVE IS GONNA GIVE ME, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT AM I GONNA GET BACK? SO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT TO WELL, TO MEET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A COUPLE OF IN THE SUMMER. YEAH. WE WERE TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO ASSIST US WITH MARKETING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYBODY YET. WELL, WE, WE HAVE, UH, MANAGERS GOING, BUT WE HAD SOMEONE THAT WE WERE TALKING TO TO HELP ABOUT HELPING US. CAN WE, CAN WE GET THAT DONE BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING? YEAH. WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO GET THAT PERSON BY THE NEXT WE NEED, WE MARKETING RIGHT AWAY. WE CAN'T SIT, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT DOLLARS. RIGHT. AND THEN ONCE WE PUT LIKE A PACKAGE TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, I LIKE I'M LOOKING AT ART, BUT I'VE SEEN, UH, SOME CITIES, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WHEN WE REALLY HAVE, DID HAVE BILLBOARDS IN PLACES. YEAH. UH, AND LIKE I SAID, THEY DO A LOT OF ADVERTISING, BUT WE DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PACKAGE TO GIVE. UM, SO, UH, WE CAN WORK ON GETTING THE MARKET IN PERSON. YEAH. WE WERE SPEAKING WITH SOMEONE AND, UH, I CAN FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT AND SEE IF, IF WE CAN HAVE THAT BY THE NEXT MEETING, A SPECIFIC PERSON WHO KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE THAT TOOL. YEAH. I THINK, UH, COUNCILMAN MOSES MAKES A GREAT VALID POINT ART. UH, HOW DO YOU GET THOSE INVESTORS AND STAKEHOLDERS THAT COME TO THE TABLE? UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU AT, BUT YOU KNOW, HOW DID YOU GET THOSE GUYS THAT COME TO THE TABLE AND SAY, HEY, IF YOU INVEST IN THIS, WE'LL DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THIS FOR YOU. YEAH. WELL, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH US, WE, WE'RE GONNA BE KIND UNIQUE CUZ NORMALLY WHAT, WHAT YOU'LL FIND IN MOST OF THE TERMS, THE, THE CITY IS THE, IS THE DRIVER AND EVERYTHING THERE AND ALL, ALL THE OTHER ENTITIES ARE JUST ALONG FOR THE RIDE, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS, WHEREAS IN THIS ONE, WE'RE GONNA BE WE'RE WE'RE PARTNERS HERE. SO, SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IS TO COME UP, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU DO YOUR, WHEN YOU DO YOUR TUR FLOWERS, MOST OF THE TUR FLOWERS ARE GONNA SAY, CITY PER TOWEL, WE HAVE ALL THESE INCENTIVES AND WE HAVE A TUR AND THIS, THIS WHAT THE TUR HAS, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO IS WE'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TERRA AND THESE ARE THE ENTITIES. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THESE NAVIGATION DISTRICT CITY, THIS IS WHAT WE ALL, WE ALL DOING AND WE'RE ALL TOGETHER FOR DOWNTOWN. AND SO, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA BE UNIQUE IN HOW WE DO THAT. CUZ MOST OF THE TIME THE DRIVER IS JUST THE CITY. EVERYBODY ELSE IS JUST A FUNDING MECHANISM PERIOD. SO, SO WITH US AS, AS BEING, BEING PARTNERS, EVEN THOUGH YOU, YOU HAVE A BOARD MOST TIME, THE BOARD IS, IS BASICALLY CITY HEAVY AND IT'S JUST DRIVEN STRAIGHT BY THE CITY IN THIS ONE BECAUSE WE OPERATE AS PARTNERS. WE GOTTA TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ADVERTISING. THERE SHOULD INCLUDE THE PORT, ALL THE NAVIGATION DISTRICTS, ALL THAT, INCLUDING THE CITY. WELL, TO ME, THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THEIR LOGOS BEEN SUBMITTED AND JUST SHOWING PARTNERSHIP AND COLLABORATION, BUT BASICALLY PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER LIKE YESTERDAY. SO WE COULD BE PREPARED TO RECEIVE THE BUSINESS. WE KNOW THAT ALL THE GUYS HAVE PLAY BUY IN AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT ENTITIES TO GET US TO THE PLACE WHERE YOU SAID THEY CAN, THEIR PROJECTS CAN COME TOGETHER. YES. BUT PEOPLE NEED TO SEE WHAT THE TOUR IS IN THE COMMUNITY ABROAD, KINDA LIKE THAT, SHIP IT, BUILD IT REAL, UH, THAT WE DID WITH EDC, UM, A THEME AND THEY, THEY WERE ABLE TO ADVERTISE THAT ON A BILLBOARD, THEY WERE ABLE TO PUT FLYERS TOGETHER, THAT MARKETING CAMPAIGN. BUT, BUT THE THING THAT, THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO [00:35:01] BE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT, WHICH MEANS WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE MORE, MORE DILIGENTLY. AND THEN YOU WOULD FIND OTHERS BECAUSE A, JUST THE LOGO, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT WHAT LOGO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, HOW FURTHER TERROR, WELL, THAT LOGO THAT YOU'RE GONNA USE USE FOR THE TERRORS, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THESE GOVERNMENTAL BODIES. OKAY. BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE, THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT OR THE PORT, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE LOGO IS SOMETHING THAT THEIR BOARD IS OKAY WITH. THAT'S WHY I SAY WE TO DO IT YESTERDAY. SO, SO, SO IF WE GET SOMEBODY THERE, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT. WHEN WE, WE DO THAT, THAT, THAT IF WE GET SOMEBODY, THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A COOPERATIVE EFFORT. AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS, THAT'S TERRORS ORIENTED. IT'S, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE TO GET THESE BOARDS BECAUSE EVERYBODY HERE THAT'S ELECTED BY, BY BOARD. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH THAT. CUZ WHEN WE PUT IT OUT, IT'S IT'S NOT JUST LIKE THE CITY, WHICH YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF 'EM THEY TALK ABOUT THE TERROR, THERE'S THE CITY WITH US, THE TERROR. AND IT'S ABOUT US, ALL THE ENTITIES. EXACTLY. AND SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE CAVEAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU SHOULD DO THATT MEAN THAT IT'S, IT'S OVERLY HARD. IT JUST MEANS IT'S MORE INTENSIVE, WHICH MEANS WE JUST GONNA HAVE TO WORK FASTER. CUZ IF WE DON'T, WE'LL STILL BE TALKING NEXT YEAR. RIGHT? YEAH. AND THAT'S MY, MY WHOLE THING. I DON'T WANNA TALK NEXT YEAR. I'D LIKE TO SEE US GET MOVING ON IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW, UM, UM, THERE'S A NEW GUY OVER IN, UH, THE, UH, PRESS BUILDING WHO DOES, UH, THINK MARKETING AS WELL. SO, BUT WE JUST NEED TO GET, GET IT DONE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT SINCE BEFORE THE SUMMER. THANKS. HEY, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MOSES, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CREATING A LOGO OR WE USE OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL ENTITY LOGOS TO GET STARTED. WHAT, WHERE WERE MY THOUGHT WAS JUST MARKETING. I THINK THAT'D BE THE IDEA FOR SOMEBODY USING TO COME TOGETHER WITH AN IDEA AND TALK WITH US ABOUT YEAH. UM, AS, AS, AS THE BOARD MEMBERS AND WHAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE ACCEPTABLE. I'M NOT A MARKETING PERSON. YEAH. I JUST KNOW MARKETING HELPS GET OUR NAME OUT THERE IN TERMS SO THAT WHAT, IF YOU GO TO THE EDCS WEBSITE, YOU CAN SEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU SEE WHAT THEY OFFER IN THEIR INCENTIVE PACKAGES. YEAH. WHAT DOES TERMS OFFER TO AN INVESTOR COMING INTO THIS? WAS, IS IT GONNA BENEFIT ME TO COME INTO THIS, THIS AREA OF PORT ARTHUR? WHAT AM I GONNA GET? WHAT'S THE INCENTIVE WE HAVE. I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING THAT SAYS THAT RIGHT NOW THAT I CAN PUT MY HAND ON GETTING A PACKET TOGETHER AND SAYING, THIS IS IT. YOU CAN GET OUR PROJECT PLAN TOGETHER. RIGHT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD REASON. RIGHT. AND, AND THEN, AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WE, WE JUMP ON BOARD WITH THE, WITH THE, THE, THE EDC. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, TALK ABOUT THE DETER, YOU ALSO WANT TO HAVE A, HAVE A MENTION OF THAT, OF THAT EDC, CUZ YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PACKAGE THAT YOU HAVE FOR DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THE WHOLE THING WE GOT THIS TUR, THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR THING. BUT, BUT ON THAT, BUT WE ALSO, THEN YOU COULD ALSO INCLUDE, WE GOT, YOU KNOW, GRANTS OR WHATEVER WE HAVE WITH THE EDC. YOU WANT, YOU WANNA MENTION THAT WHATEVER OTHER TYPE OF DOWNTOWN OR BUSINESS REVITALIZATION, UH, ENTITIES THAT WE MAY HAVE, YOU WANT, YOU WANNA MENTION, MENTION THOSE, HOW WE WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE CITY ENTITIES, INCLUDING THIS AND THAT MAYBE ONE THING AS YOU TALK TO YOUR, TO THE MARKETING PERSON, IT MAY BE, UM, A BETTER IDEA THAT WOULD PROBABLY EASIER TO PASS IS THAT YOU FIGURE OUT SOME CONFIGURATION OF ALL OF THE ENTITIES LOGO AND THAT'S THE TERMS, RIGHT. INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW THE PROBLEM. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT HE SAYING IN LOGO, IN ONE TIE IN WITH ALL ENTITIES CREATE A NEW, YEAH. WE JUST GET BUSY. THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT HAS THE SEVEN HAS ONE. THE COURT HAS A, BUT PUTTING ALL THOSE TOGETHER, IF PERSON TO SEE, YEAH. I CAN SEE THAT AS, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THEM, WE'RE ALL IN PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER. THEY CAN SEE THAT THE TOUR BOARD SHOWS COLLABORATION AMONG ENTITIES IN, IN THE CITY. SO RIGHT. I THINK'S, AND IT'S A LOT EASIER FOR THAT ONE TO GET PASSED BY ALL THE BOARDS BECAUSE IT HAS EVERYBODY'S LOGO. AND SO, SO THAT THOSE ARE A LOT QUICKER TO GET, TO GET ADOPTED BY THE ENTITIES. OKAY. QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS PUT ON TOP? WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE TOP OF THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. AND HAVE SOME, HEY, UH, VAL, DO YOU WANT TO, AND LET ME KNOW IF I'M OUTTA LINE, DO WE WANT TO ADD THE FINANCIAL REPORT ON THERE? OR WE JUST WANT TO KEEP IT OFF OR, YOU KNOW, REPORTING IT OR BECAUSE DOES IT CHANGE OR IT PRETTY MUCH STAYS THE SAME. I THINK HE'S GONNA STAY THE SAME IN MY UNTIL NO. SO IT IT'LL PROBABLY CHANGE. CAUSE ONCE YOU DO THE MARKETING, YOU'RE GONNA RIGHT FINANCIALLY. SO THAT'S WHY I SUGGEST OKAY, WELL, YEAH, ONCE WE START HAVING EXPENSES, I CAN DO A MONTHLY REPORT. JUST SOMETHING REAL QUICK WE SPENT. YEAH. JUST SOMETHING REAL QUICK. YEAH. WE WON'T GET ANY OF THE REVENUE IN UNTIL [00:40:01] NEXT SUMMER. SO THAT'LL PRETTY MUCH STAY THE SAME UNTIL NEXT SUMMER. BUT THE EXPENSES AS YOU START SPENDING THEM, I CAN REPORT THOSE MONTHLY TO YOU. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BOARD MEMBERS? UH, DO WE HAVE TO GO TO EXECS? NO, WE DON'T. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. WE JUST THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, BOARD MEMBERS ARE NOW ENTERTAIN, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN MOVE. SECOND. SECOND. IT WAS MOVED IN SECOND THAT WE ADJOURN IS MEETING THE TIME IS 4 0 3. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. UH, BY USUAL SIGN SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED AT 4 0 3. THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.