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AND GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE.

AND, UH, WE'RE NOT JUST BEING TARDY JUST BECAUSE WE TRYING TO WORK OUT SOME TECHNICAL, UH, SITUATIONS.

SO YOU MAY HEAR SOMETHING COMING ON, UH, ON SOME, UH, OVERRIDES OVER OUR VOICES.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

AND THEY TOLD ME JUST TO CONTINUE WITH THE MEETING, IF THAT DOES OCCUR.

SO I WANT TO EXACTLY WELCOME YOU

[I. INVOCATION, PLEDGE & ROLL CALL]

TODAY TO OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TODAY, JUNE 21ST, 2022, WHICH IT IS NOW 9:46 AM HERE IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER IN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR AT 4 44 FOURTH STREET, UM, ON TODAY, TUESDAY, JUNE 21ST.

AND IN ADDITION TO, UH, HAVING THIS MEETING IN, UH, IN PERSON, UH, INDIVIDUALS MAY ALSO ATTEND THE MEETING THROUGH A TELEPHONIC OR VIDEO CONFERENCE, UH, MEDIUMS BY DIALING 8 7 7 8 5 3 5 2 4 7 OR 8 8 8 7 8 8 0 0 9 9.

THEY MUST ENTER MEETING ID 8 6 2 5 4 0 6 2 8 5 9 AND THE PASSCODE 6 5 0 4 5 0.

AND YOU WILL BE ALLOWED TO ENTER THE MEETING AND PARTICIPATE.

ALSO, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT AND, UH, YOU WILL BE PROVIDED WITH A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS.

IF YOU MAKE THE REQUEST, UH, 24 HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING BY CALLING THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AT 4 0 9 9 8 3 8 1 1 5 AND THEY WOULD DO ALL THAT THEY CAN TO ACCOMMODATE YOU WITH YOUR REQUEST.

IF YOU HAVE, UH, PHONES OR OTHER, UH, TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF, UH, DISTURBING OR DISTRACTING SOUND, PLEASE SILENCE IT AT THIS TIME, WE'LL BEGIN BY HAVING OUR INVOCATION AND I WILL PLEDGE, UH, COUNCILMAN FRANK, WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AS TO DO THE INVOCATION FOR US? AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE PLEDGE LET'S STAND, PLEASE.

I FATHER AND I, GOD, HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE THIS MORNING TO COME INTO YOUR PRESENCE THIS MORNING.

WE THANK YOU FOR WAKING US UP EARLY THIS MORNING, GOD, AND STARTING US ON OUR WAY.

AND AS WE COME NOW, FATHER IN THIS CHAMBER TO DO THE BUSINESS OF PORT AUTHOR, WE PRAY A SPECIAL BLESSING UPON THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY, THE CITIZENS OF OUR NATION AND THE CITIZENS OF OUR WORLD, HOLD US IN THE HALL OVER YOUR HAND AND DO NOT LEAVE US ALONE AS OUR PRAYER IN JESUS' NAME, WE ASK IT ALL AND ALL THE PEOPLE SAID, YES, AMEN.

I PLEDGE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE PROPERTY FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE AND OUR OPENING CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AS TO ESTABLISH THE CORE MAYOR BARR T MAYOR PRO HOLMES, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES, COUNCIL MEMBER, KEN LAW, COUNCIL MEMBER MARK'S COUNCIL MEMBER MOSES HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER, FRANK PRESENT.

YOU HAVE A QUORUM MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO KINDLY ON PROCLAMATIONS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY BEFORE ME AND THERE AREN'T ANY.

OKAY, WELL NOW I'LL

[III.A.1. Joan Jones Regarding Taxes Paid By Motiva And Other Companies And How It Is Utilized]

MOVE TO, UH, PETITIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS.

FIRST WE HAVE MS. JOANNE JONES REGARDING TAXES PAID BY MOTIVA AND OTHER COMPANIES AND HOW IT IS UTILIZED, BUT YOU APPROACH PLEASE, MS. JONES, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND BEGIN YOUR PRESENTATION.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

GOOD MORNING, MS. JONES JONES, SIX 40 EAST STREET.

UH, UH, I'M GOING TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE PURCHASE, THE ATTORNEY AND BUSINESS MANAGER.

AND, UH, BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU HAVE WENT OVER OVER THIS AND WHAT I WANT TO KNOW THE COMPANIES THAT'S HERE, MOTIVA AND TOTAL.

ARE THEY PAYING ANY MONEY TO THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR? DO THEY PAY ANY MONEY TO THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR? OKAY.

WE'LL JUST GO UP WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

WE'LL GET YOUR NAME.

HE WASN'T PAYING ANY MONEY.

SHOULD THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR IN REVENUES, WHATEVER REVENUE AND HOW IS IT,

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WHERE IS IT? PUT IT? WHERE IS THE MONEY? PUT IT IF THEY HAVE PAY PAID ANY END IN THE LAST THREE YEARS OR EVEN BEFORE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THAT PROCEDURE, UH, WORKING WITH THE CITY AND, AND WHATEVER.

AND THE REASON WHY I'M CONCERNED, UH, ABOUT IT IT'S BECAUSE THE REVENUE FROM THE COMPETENCIES, UH, THAT FALL DON'T KNOW, BUT HOUSES, CARS, HOUSES, CARS, AND WHATEVER, AND THEN, OKAY, THAT'S A PRETTY HEAVY EXPENSE ON THE COMMUNITY AND HOMEOWNERS.

AND THEN WE PAY TAX HERE AT THE CITY.

THEN WE PAY A PERSONAL TAX AT THE CITY.

THE PAINT CANNOT STAY, DO NOT STAY ON THE HOUSES AT ALL.

I'VE SEEN IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND SO LONG.

I WATCHED IT EVEN THE, UH, THE, UH, ROOFS ON HOUSES DO NOT REACH THE POTENTIAL OF, UH IT'S.

UM, IT'S, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD, UH, THE POTENTIAL OF IT, UH, FOR THE GUARANTEE ON IT, ON THE ROOFS AND EVERYTHING.

SO I WAS TRYING TO PRINT OF, UM, IF THEY, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE UPKEEP OF, UM, JUST SO MUCH IS GOING ON AND THE REVENUE IT'S SO BAD AND BEEN LIKE THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND WHATEVER THEY PAY INTO THE CITY.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE, THIS IS MY THOUGHT, NO ONE ELSE, ONE FULL AT THE BANK MONEY SHOULD BE HOLD HELD IN A REVENUE IN A REVENUE THAT WHENEVER THE STATE GO UP ON TAXES, WE COULD USE THAT, UH, THAT THOUGHT OF A REVENUE TO KEEP TAXES OUT OF THE COMMUNITY, HANDS AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY, YOUR HANDS AND TEXTS, UH, THE HOUSES THAT WE OWN, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, UM, LACK OF FOURTH OF WHATEVER THAT MONEY.

AND I'M, I'M HEARING THAT IT'S $3 MILLION IN WHATEVER I'M HERE.

NET IS TAX.

AND I JUST WANT TO CLEAR A VERIFICATION OF WHAT DO THEY DO.

AND THIS DEPARTMENT, UH, IN PUT OUT THE TEXAS, UH, TWAT THE UPKEEP OF THIS CITY AND WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UH, THEY ARE A PART OF, A LOT OF, UH, DOWNFALL OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE AND COULD GIVE US SOME HELP, SOME HELP, SOME KIND OF WAY.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M COMING TO THE CITY.

AND MAYBE YOU ALL HAVE NOT REALIZED, YOU KNOW, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK ABOUT, BUT IN THE BUDGET, IT IT'S MONEY.

UH, AND THEN I'M HEARING THAT THEY DON'T GIVE MONEY IS CONTRACTED.

YOU ARE, HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, UH, IF IT'S A CONTRACT WITH THEM AND WHAT'S TELLING ME WHAT IS IN THAT CONTRACT, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT IS IN THAT CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU ALL MAY AGREE WITH WITH THEM.

COULD I GET SOME OUNCES, PLEASE? ARE YOU THROUGH? I THINK THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND WHAT I'VE DONE.

I'VE LISTENED TO WHAT SHE WAS SAYING.

I TELL YOU I'VE COME UP WITH FOUR BULLET POINTS THAT I THINK, AND LET ME KNOW, AND THEN I'LL PASS THAT ON CHILD PROFESSIONALS.

I'VE COME UP WITH FOUR BULLET POINTS FROM WHAT YOU'VE SAID, AND I THINK SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED WITH THE MIC SYSTEM.

CAN YOU HEAR ME WELL? I THINK SO.

OKAY.

FIRST I THINK YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TOTAL PAID BY INDUSTRY, NOT JUST MOTIVA, BUT ALL INDUSTRY.

YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TOTAL PAY BY ALL INDUSTRY.

NEXT.

YOU WANT TO SEE IF THERE IS LEGALLY, UH, IF, IF A DEDUCTION OF PROPERTY TAXES WITH, UH, HELP OF INDUSTRIAL PAYMENTS, IF SOMETHING CAN BE WORKED OUT WHERE, WHEN, UH, AT BALLOON TAXES OR THE ACTUAL TAX AMOUNT FOR CITIZENS WITHIN THE CITY OF PORT, ARTHUR CAN BE REDUCED BECAUSE OF THEY ARE IN LIEU OF TAX PAYMENT.

UH, THE THIRD THING I THINK I'VE COME UP WITH ONCE YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU JUST WANT TO SEE HOW THEY CAN HELP CITIZENS AND ASSIST CITIZENS WITH A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE AND FOURTHLY.

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE TENANTS OF THE AGREEMENT, LIKE, WHAT ARE THE ARTICLES IN THE AGREEMENT, OR WHAT ARE THOSE POINTS IN THAT PARTICULAR AGREEMENT? NOW ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER, ARE WE PREPARED TO ANSWER THIS NOW OR WITH THESE FOUR THINGS

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THAT I'VE COME UP WITH, AND SHE'S AGREED THAT WE CAN RESEARCH THIS AND GIVE HER ANSWERS TO THIS AT A LATER DATE.

IF YOU WANT US TO GIVE IT AT A LATER DATE, SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE CAN TELL YOU IT'S WHATEVER YOU PREFER US TO DO.

OKAY.

NOW, MS. JONES, SHE SAID ACCESS TO THE WEBSITE, COMPUTER SAVVY TO GO THROUGH THE WEBSITE AND LOOK FOR IT.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND I WAS TOLD THAT, BUT I PREFER COMING TO THE BOARD.

OKAY, THEN THAT YOU COULD EXPLAIN IT TO ME.

AND I WOULD HEAR FROM YOU ALL.

OKAY.

LET ME TRY TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

UH, YOU MAY HAVE TO GO BACK OVER THE, SOME OF THEM.

I THINK THE INDUSTRIAL REVENUE, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION THAT REALLY THE FINANCE DIRECTOR COULD TELL YOU.

BUT, UH, IF YOU ALL WANT ME TO ANSWER THE QUESTION FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S IN THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET HAS WHAT OUR PROJECTED REVENUES ARE.

AND I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE ABOUT 33, SHE SAID 33.2 33 PER 2,000,033, PRINT TWO.

YES.

MA'AM 33.2 MILLION.

OKAY.

AND THEN I THINK YOUR NEXT QUESTION WAS, WHAT TYPE OF AGREEMENTS DO WE HAVE? SO WOULD A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW UNTIL I CAME BACK TO PORT OFFICE, THE REFINERIES ARE NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS.

THEY ARE NOT WITHIN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR.

SO WE CAN'T TAX THEM.

YOU CAN'T CHARGE SOMEONE PROPERTY TAX, BUT PROPERTY, THAT'S NOT IN YOUR JURISDICTION.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT, YOU HEAR A LOT, WE TALK ABOUT ANNEXATION.

SO WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED IN, IN LIEU OF ANNEXATION AGREEMENT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE LAW WE FOUGHT FOR THE LAW TO ALLOW US WHERE YOU CAN ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH SOMEONE RIGHT OUTSIDE YOUR TERRITORY.

UM, IT'S CALLED AN EXTRA, UM, IT'S CALLED ETJ.

I WAS ABOUT TO SAY IT WRONG.

IT WAS CALLED ETJ, EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, NOT LIKE THE MOVIE, EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.

AND IT'S SO MANY MILES, UH, THREE AND A HALF MILES OUTSIDE YOUR CITY LIMITS.

YOU CAN STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT SO YOU WON'T ANNEX THEM.

SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED? I THINK IT'S ABOUT 23 OR 27 AGREEMENTS.

I USED TO KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THEY'RE ABOUT TO IN THE TWENTIES, ABOUT 27 DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS WE HAVE WITH INDUSTRY THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS AND WE ENTERED THOSE AGREEMENTS.

SO THEY WON'T BE ANNEXED.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES.

SO THESE AGREEMENTS THAT YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT ARE CALLED IN LIEU OF TAX AGREEMENTS, AND IT'S BASED UPON THEM PAYING A PERCENTAGE OF VALUE.

SOME PEOPLE PAY, UH, 95% OF THEIR VALUE.

SOME PEOPLE PAY A, WE HAVE A SCALE WHERE IT ACTUALLY GRADUATES UP AND THEY ONLY GET A DISCOUNT IF THEY DO CERTAIN TYPES OF THINGS, BUT THEY BASICALLY PAY A SET PAYMENT.

AND, UM, YOU'D HAVE TO, WHEN THEY SAY YOU OWN THE LOOK AT THE AGREEMENTS, SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS ARE IN UNIFORM, UH, BUT YOU BASICALLY HAVE FOUR TYPES OF AGREEMENTS.

YOU HAVE ONE WHERE WE DON'T, UM, WHERE THEY PAY 95% OF VALUE, AND WE DON'T PROVIDE ANYTHING TO THEM.

AND THEY DON'T.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE VEOLIA PAYS 95%.

WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE WHERE IT STARTS AT 80% AND OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD GRADUATES UP.

SO THE NEXT ONE YEAR 80, THE NEXT YEAR 81, AND THEY ONLY GET A DISCOUNT IF THEY PERFORM CERTAIN WAYS.

UM, WE HAVE INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS IF THEY, UM, I'LL START UP A NEW PROJECT.

SO YOU MAY HAVE A REFINERY THAT HAS TWO PROJECTS, TWO, TWO, UH, TWO CONTRACTS.

ONE IS FOR THE BASE REFINERY OR IN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.

AND ONE IS FOR A NEW PROJECT.

AND WE HAVE CERTAIN INCENTIVES THAT THE COUNCIL HAS WORKED VERY HARD ON.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BASICS OF IT AND, UH, THOSE AGREEMENTS.

SO THEY TOTAL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL WHAT YOU PROJECT TO GET, UM, MS. DANIEL AND HER TEAM LOOKED PROJECT, WHEN THEY DO THE BUDGET, THEY LOOK AT WHAT'S PROJECTED BASED UPON THE VALUE.

SO THEY STILL PAY A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THEIR TAXABLE VALUE IS.

SO THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.

OVERALL, IT LOOKS TO THIS TIME ABOUT 33.2 MILLION.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, 32 PER TWO MILLIONS.

OKAY.

THAT ROUGHLY, THAT YOU ARE RECEIVING.

OKAY.

BACK TO BACK TO THE ONE BULLET THAT I FEEL THAT THE TEXTS ARE NOT THE TAGS THAT THE COMMUNITY, THE HOMEOWNERS COULD SHARE IN THE BUDGET, WHEN THEY GET READY TO DO THE BOOK THAT THE HOMEOWNERS COULD SHARE, AT LEAST ONE FOURTH OF THE 33 PER TWO, THAT, I MEAN, THE ENTRANCE OF THIS MONEY, JUST TO INTEREST OUT THIS MONEY WOULD HELP US, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UH, AF GOT THREE 90 YEAR OLD PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND

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I'VE SEEN THEM PAINT TWICE A YEAR.

I GET OUT OF MY CAR.

THE RESIDUE ON THE CAR IS, IS, IS RIDICULOUS.

AND, AND, UM, IT'S JUST SINCE THEY ARE CAUSING A PROBLEM AND THEY ARE SENDING YOU OUT AT 33.2, I WISH IN THE BUDGET, SOME KIND OF WAY THAT YOU WOULD THINK OF US AS HOMEOWNERS.

AND WHEN A STATE GO UP ON AVATAX, YOU ALL WOULD HAVE, I MEAN, HAVE SOMETHING TO FALL BACK ON TO KEEP US FROM PAYING OUT, OUT OF POCKETS DIRECT, AM I MAKING ANY SENSE TO YOU? YES, MA'AM OH, CAUGHT RIGHT AT ME.

AND SHE, IF SHE, IT, UM, THERE IS A PROGRAM WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT ON THE GUIDANCE OF MS. BEVERLY FREEMAN, WHERE THE CITY PROVIDES PINS TO INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO APPLY TO BECOME PART OF THE PROGRAM.

UM, THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN ON FOR A NUMBER OF USE FROM THE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS.

SO ANY CITIZEN WHO IS WILLING TO APPLY FOR THE PROGRAM, UM, THEY COULD CON CONTACT MS. BEVERLY FREEMAN AND HER DEPARTMENT, THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, BUT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE.

EXCUSE ME, FUNDS ARE MADE AVAILABLE EVERY YEAR UNDER THE HOUSING.

UH, AND THIS DAY I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S VERY, IT IS NOT PUPPERS THAT PUBLICIZE TO THE COMMUNITY AS, AS, UH, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS YOU THINK IT IS, YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED TO THE COMMUNITY AND LETTING THESE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY CAN GET HELP FROM THAT DEPARTMENT.

I EVEN FILED FOR SOME HELP TO THEM.

AND THERE, IT WAS, UH, IT WAS KIND OF A RAT RACE RUNNING TO, UH, GET THAT TYPE OF HELP.

AND I STILL SAY 33 PRANK TO, YOU KNOW, UH, THE TAX ON THIS MONEY CAN BE IN THE BUDGET SOME KIND OF WAY, BUT, UH, TO KEEP ALL THE TEXTS FROM GOING UP SO MUCH, BECAUSE THEY, UH, WORKING AGAINST US, YOU KNOW, THE HOMEOWNERS AND THESE COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THEY'RE GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER TWICE TO US, YOU KNOW, CAUSE WE PAY HIM, UH, PERSONAL TAX TAX AND ALL THIS.

AND IT'S HIGH.

IT'S RARELY, EVERY GEAR IS GOING UP.

ALL YOU EVER SIX MONTHS IS GOING UP AND HIS RESIDUE THAT'S COMING DOWN.

I MEAN, IF I WANT TO GO AND FIGHT THEM, I'M ONLY ONE PERSON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WOULD SEND ME AROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND IN CIRCUS.

SO THIS IS THE REASON WHY I CAME TO THE BOARD TO SEEK A, YOU ALL REMEMBER ANY, WHEN YOU KNEW THE BUDGET, COULD YOU ALL FIT IN SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS MONEY TO HELP US, WE LIVE IN A COMMUNITY, WE LOVE THE COMMUNITY, BUT THAT TYPE OF MONEY COMING IN, IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, TAXPAYERS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT IT.

I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE A, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE A PROPERTY TOO, AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW, HOW IT HAD HILLS AND WHATEVER, JUST COMING OUT YOUR POCKETS AND YOU LOOK AT THESE COMPANIES.

I THINK THEY'RE GETTING AWAY WITH A LOT.

SO I THINK I'VE EXPRESSED MYSELF AND I HOPE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM AND KNEW THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING TO TRY TO FEEL WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

FUCK THE COMMUNITY TO HELP BECAUSE I WOULD, PEOPLE HAVE, UH, THEY, THEY SUFFER SOLIDLY.

SO MAY AND I, IF NOBODY BRING IT TO YOU ALL, I KNOW YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT IT, BUT THIS IS THE REASON WHY I'M HERE.

AND SO WHEN THEY DO THE BUDGET, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO AT 33.2, HEY, JUST TO INTEREST OF THIS, IT WOULD BE A BIG HILL.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THANKS.

Y'ALL OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR MS. JONES FROM COUNSELING? I DON'T GET THAT.

THERE AREN'T ANY MS. JONES AND HOPE, HOPEFULLY WE'VE ANSWERED, BUT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES ON THE DATE, WHAT YOU NEEDED ANSWERED.

AND, UH, IN THE FUTURE COUNCIL, I MEAN THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD EVEN FURTHER RESEARCH SOME OF THIS.

AND IF THEY COME UP WITH SOMETHING NEW FOR YOU, WE WILL LET YOU KNOW.

AND I CALLED HER DEPARTMENT AND SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING TO, UH, FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, SOME PAPERS OUT TO SEE ME.

AND, UH, SO I COULD REALLY, YOU KNOW, GO DOWN INTO IT AND MAYBE TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT.

YES, MA'AM UH, I JUST, I I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE, DIDN'T HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BUT I WISH IT WOULD BE ON THE TABLE THAT YOU ALL THINK ABOUT HOW YOU COULD USE THIS TYPE OF MONEY TO HELP US.

OKAY.

WELL, IF IT'S POSSIBLE,

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UH, AT THE SEAT OF MAN, JUST SIT THERE, THAT'S A TIGHT PROGRAM, BUT YOU'LL LOOK INTO THAT'S WHERE THESE PEOPLE CAN GO IN AND GET HELP, LIKE THEY SHOULD.

OKAY.

W W WE'LL LOOK INTO IT AND BE SURE TO IT, THE WAIT IS OVER, UH, OVER THE AREA, OVER THAT AREA.

UM, I THINK THEY SHOULD WALK THAT AREA AND LOOK AT THINGS AND COME IN AND ASK HIM, HOW CAN WE HELP YOU? WHICH OF THESE COUNCILPERSONS WOULD BE THE COUNCILPERSON IN YOUR AREA? WHAT THE COUNCIL PERSON HERE OUT OF THE FOUR DISTRICTS WOULD BE YOUR, YOUR COUNCIL PERSON.

I THINK SHE IS MS. HALL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, W IN, IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU WOULD, AND I KNOW, UH, SHE WOULD BE MORE THAN PEACE TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE YOU, UH, AND YOU CAN CALL MY OFFICE AND, UH, MS. WHITNEY ON THE NET CAN CONTACT BE A COUCH PERSON FOR YOU, AND WE CAN SET UP SOMETHING WHERE SHE CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU, AND YOU CAN HAVE PERSONNEL PRESENT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THE FINDINGS ON.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND, SIR.

AND, BUT I DON'T THINK I NEED NOBODY TO EXPLAIN ANYTHING ELSE TO ME.

I JUST WANT TO SEE SOMEBODY TO THINK ABOUT IT AND DO AN ACTION WITH IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU ALL COME AND THINK ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, 33, PROBABLY TWO US TEST TAX MONEY.

NOPE.

I LET THEM SPEAK TO YOUR PURSE.

OKAY.

KEVIN IS HOME AND SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT IT.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

MS. JOHNS, ANYTIME, JUST GIVE ME A CALL NOW.

I'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU THIS WEEK.

OKAY.

I DON'T WANT TO TALK, I JUST WANT ACTIONS BE DONE.

LET'S SAY TODAY.

ALRIGHTY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN JONES.

WE WOULD TAKE ON A BABY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION TODAY, MS. JONES.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

YEP.

OKAY.

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, PRESENTATIONS AND WE HAVE THE FIRST PRESENTATION BY LIP KIT.

WE'RE BEHIND ON THE PUPPET.

EXCUSE ME.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

VERY SORRY.

I DID NOT THINK THE CAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEVIATE FROM OUR NORMAL FLOW ON THE, UH, PRESENT AGENDA.

AND WE ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES BEHIND NOW FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

[IV.1. A Public Hearing For The Purpose To Consider And Receive Public Comments Regarding: Proposed Change: Z22- 02 ( D& T Interest, LLC) A Zoning Change From Single Family " SF" To Planned Development District PD" For The Residential Development Of Patio Homes Legal Description: Approximately 3. 578- Acres Of Land Consisting Of Tract II, Reserve " B", Fairway Estates ( North Of Jimmy Johnson Blvd And East Of Golfhill Drive) Port Arthur, Jefferson County, Texas Citizens With Questions Regarding Description Of This Property Can Contact The City Planning Department At (409) 983- 8133. The Public Will Also Be Able To View The Public Hearing Via The City' s Website At www.portarthurtx.gov]

UH, WE ARE PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER ONE, UH, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEGAN AT 10:00 AM A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE TO CONSIDER AND RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING A PROPOSED CHANGE Z 22 DASH ZERO TWO D AND T UH, INTEREST LLC.

UH, A ZONING CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY, SLP TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT, DISTRICT PD FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF PATIO HOMES.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 3.6 ACRES OF LAND CONSISTING, A TRACK TO RESERVE B FAIRWAY ESTATES NORTH OF JIMMY JOHNSON BOULEVARD AND EAST OF GOLF HILL DRIVE PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS CITIZENS.

WITH QUESTIONS REGARDING DESCRIPTION OF THIS PROPERTY CAN CONTACT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AT 4 9 9 8 3 8 3 8 1 3 3 AND THE PUBLIC WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO VIEW THE PUBLIC HEARING VIA THE CITY'S WEBSITE@WWWDOTPORTAUTHORTX.GOLD.

SO WE WILL BEGIN NOW WITH THE FIRST PROBABLY HERE, BUT YOUR INTRODUCTION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, MY NAME IS LARRY BATON.

I AM THE MANAGER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, AND GOOD MORNING TO THE CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER AND CITY SECRETARY.

UH, THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER EVERY ZONING CHANGE FOR APPROXIMATELY 3.56 TO FIVE ACRES OF LAND CONSISTING OF ALL RESERVED BE FAIRWAY FAIRWAY ESTATES SUBDIVISION LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JIMMY JOHNSON BOULEVARD, EAST OF US HIGHWAY 69, PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS AND THE APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 7TH, 2022, REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE FOR THE PROPERTY REFERENCED ABOVE THE COMMISSION, HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 16TH, 2022, WHERE CITIZENS WERE INVITED TO EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION FOR US TO REQUEST THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED THREE TO ONE, RECOMMENDING THAT THE ZONING AMENDMENT BE DENIED

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BASED UPON THE DISCUSSIONS OF THE MEETING ON APRIL 26TH, 2022 CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION TWO, TWO DASH 2, 2 7, CALLING FOR A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE PREPARED AND MAILED NOTIFICATION FOR TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING, AS WELL AS PUBLISHED NOTICE IN THE NEWS POURED OUT THE NEWSPAPER.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY LOCATED ON A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE DISTRICT.

THIS DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO CREATE PROTECTED NEIGHBORHOODS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, WHICH PRECLUDE CRUDES USES, WHICH ADVERSELY AFFECT RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE GENERALLY LOCATED ON LOCAL STREETS.

IT IS BEING PROPOSED TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, WHICH MEANS A DEVELOPMENT IN WHICH THE APPLICABLE CODE RESTRICTIONS, OTHER DENSITY REQUIREMENTS MAY BE MODIFIED OR APPLIED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE, RATHER THAN TO EACH INDIVIDUAL.

LOT.

THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT PATIO HOMES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE SITE IS LOCATED.

THE SITE IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY, A THING, A FAMILY DISTRICT, AS WELL AS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, UH, PD 35 BEING LOCATED SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS JIMMY JOHNSON.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF JIMMY JOHNSON BOULEVARD AND EAST OF US HIGHWAY 69.

THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING APPROXIMATELY 70 ZERO LOT LINES WITH TWO RESERVE TRACKS, AVERAGING 30 FEET IN WIDTH AND 55 FEET IN DEPTH ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND 50 FEET IN DEPTH.

ON THE NORTH SIDE, THERE IS A PROPOSED 26 FEET WIDE STREET, RIGHT OF WAY, DESIGNED TO MEET CITY SPECIFICATIONS, WHICH WOULD BE NAMED KYLER GILBERT WAY.

THE STREET WOULD BE MAINTAINED AS PRIVATE AND ONLY BE ACCESSIBLE BY PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION AND GRASS EGRESS TO THE SUBDIVISION WOULD BE AT THE EAST AND WEST INTERSECTION OF COLLARD GILBERT WAY.

AND JIMMY JOHNSON BOULEVARD, A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS CONDUCTED WITH CITY OFFICIALS ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2021.

THE NEXT SLIDES ARE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS.

THAT WAS A, THAT THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, PROVIDED FOR YOUR REVIEW CAN JUST RUN THROUGH THEM.

UH, PUBLIC NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO 13 PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FEET RADIUS OF THE PROPOSED SITE AND PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER ON THE FOLLOWING DATES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

IT WAS APRIL 30TH, 2022.

WE HAD THREE WRITTEN OPPOSITIONS AND TWO VERBAL OPPOSITIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, IT WAS POSTED ON JUNE 4TH, 2022 AND MAIL OUTS WERE ON JUNE, 2010, 2022, NO ADDITIONAL WRITTEN OR VERBAL OPPOSITIONS WAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY STAFF.

I WOULD LIKE TO READ IN RECORDS.

THE FI THREE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, A COPY OF THESE LETTERS WERE GIVEN TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AS WELL.

THE FIRST LETTER AS A RESIDENT OF FAIRWAY AS STATES, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS.

I WISH TO GO ON RECORD AS OPPOSING THE REQUEST TO CHANGE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS SCHEDULED TO BE DISCUSSED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THE APRIL 18TH, 2022 MEETING.

I WISH ALSO TO GO ON RECORD AS BEING OPPOSED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY STRUCTURES ON THE TRACT OF LAND.

IN QUESTION, I REALIZE THIS IS A SEPARATE CONCERN FROM THE AGENDA OF THE MEETING ON APRIL 18TH, BUT I'M WILLING TO SHARE REASONS OF THIS CONCERN AT ANOTHER APPROPRIATE TIME.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY CONCERNS, WHICH ALSO REFLECT THE CONCERNS OF MY HUSBAND OF THIS MATTER.

SECOND LETTER STATES, PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT I AM AGAINST THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE TO THIS PROPERTY FROM SINGLE-FAMILY TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF PATIO HOMES.

THIS CHANGE WILL TEND TO LOWER HOME VALUES IN OUR AREA WITH SOMEONE, PLEASE REMOVE THE PLYWOOD SIZE IN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS AND THEY ARE AN EYESORE.

THE THIRD LETTER A TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN.

I AM COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THE CHANGING OF THE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT OF A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION NEAR MY HOME, WHICH IS LOCATED IN NORTH OF JIMMY JOHNSON BOULEVARD AND EAST OF GULF HILL DRIVE.

WHEN I BROUGHT MY HOME IN 20 18, 1 REASON I WANTED MY HOME IS BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE AREA.

I LOVE TO SIT IN MY BACKYARD AND WATCH THE SURROUNDING SITES IN MY AREA.

IF YOU WILL ALL BUILD, IF YOU ALL BUILD, BUILD ANY RESIDENTIAL

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SUBDIVISIONS ALONG JIMMY JOHNSON, THIS WILL COMPLETELY TAKE AWAY FROM THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT MY HOME.

THIS WILL ALSO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR MY LAWN GUY TO ACCESS MY BACKYARD WITH HIS RIDING LAWNMOWER, WHICH HELPS IN KEEPING THE LANDSCAPING AND BEAUTIFICATION OF MY HOME.

I ALSO FEEL THAT THIS WILL GREATLY TAKE AWAY FROM THE GOLF COURSE, THE GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE AND THE GOLFERS USE THAT AREA FOR ACCESS TO AND FROM THE COURSE AND GOLF IS SLICED BALLS THAT WOULD HIT THOSE HOMES IF THEY WERE THERE ALL THE TIME.

THIS COULD CAUSE CAUSE MAJOR INJURIES TO SOMEONE WHO RESIDES THERE.

ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH THIS IS RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS WILL CAUSE MAJOR TRAFFICS ALONG JIMMY JOHNSON.

JIMMY JOHNSON IS ALREADY A HIGH VOLUME AREA WITH TRAFFIC FLOWING CONSTANTLY.

THIS ONE, NOT ONLY MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THOSE OF US TO SEE WHEN EXITING GOLF HE'LL DRIVE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THOSE LIVING IN THOSE RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS.

I DO NOT SEE THEM HAVING MUCH DRIVEWAY BY THE WAY, BECAUSE THERE WILL NOT BE MUCH PROPERTY FOR THEM TO BUILD ON THAT WILL LEAVE VERY LIMITED PARKING SPACES FOR THE RESIDENCES OF ANY VISITORS.

THEY MAY HAVE SPEAKING FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD RESIDE THERE.

I DO NOT FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE VERY HAPPY OR COMFORTABLE LIVING ACROSS FROM THE STREET FROM THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN OPERATION ACROSS THE STREET.

UH, THE, THE RESTAURANTS ARE OPEN LATE AT NIGHT AND THE CLUB MUSIC IS RATHER LOUD.

THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

I CAN HEAR IT FROM MY BEDROOM SO THAT I KNOW PEOPLE LIVING RIGHT ON JIMMY JOHNSON.

WE'RE HERE AS, RATHER AS WELL.

ALSO ANYONE WITH KIDS WHO LIVED THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL DUE TO THE TRAFFIC AND THE EXCESSIVE SPEEDING THAT GOES ON AROUND JIMMY JOHNSON.

LASTLY, I'M AFRAID THAT FOR WHAT PEOPLE ARE ACTIVITIES MAY RESIDE IN THOSE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, THE SURROUNDING APARTMENTS IN THAT AREA ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH CRIME AND VIOLENCE VIOLENCE THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

AND WE DON'T NEED ANY ADDITIONAL CRIME OR VIOLENCE ADDED TO IT.

AS I STATED EARLIER, WITH THE CLUB ACROSS THE STREET ON JIMMY JOHNSON, THESE RESIDENTS MAY GET UPSET WITH THE NOISE, SPEAK UP TO A DRUNKEN CROWD AND VIOLENCE MAY RUB FROM THERE.

WE JUST DON'T NEED THAT POSSIBILITY BROUGHT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

MY PROPERTY TAXES HAVE INCREASED ENORMOUSLY ENORMOUSLY OVER THE YEARS.

I HAVE, I HAVE HAD MY HOME.

I HAVE PAID THEM RIGHTFULLY AND I'M AS I'M SUPPOSED TO.

UH, I FEEL AS THOUGH I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK UP ABOUT ANYTHING THAT MAY TAKE AWAY FROM MY INVESTMENT AND PURPOSE FOR BUYING MY HOME AND MY NEIGHBORS WHO HAPPENED TO BE OUT OF THE, AT THE TIME, FULLY AGREE WITH ME.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE END OF THE, THE LETTERS.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU AT THIS TIME.

GREAT COW'S REMARKS.

YES, SIR.

MR. BATTEN? YES.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

MY BED, MY BED.

OKAY.

UH, ANY, BEFORE WE HAVE COUNCIL, ANY, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, IF YOU MAY APPROACH YOU MAY APPROACH BEGIN STATING YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

YES.

MY NAME IS DALLAS SMITH.

MY ADDRESS IS 79 0 1 GOLF HILL DRIVE.

AND MY CONCERN, UH, FROM WHAT I'VE READ, THE 3.8 CAUSE OF THE LAND IS TO BE A GOD AND HOMES.

AND, UH, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.

I'M IN HOMES.

THEY GONNA BUILD ALL 3.8 BECAUSE OF LANG THAT'S MY CONCERN.

AND IF Y'ALL CHANGE THE ZONING AND CHANGE IT FROM WHAT IT'S ALREADY IS, THEY CAN BUILD ANYTHING THEY WANT.

IT COULD BE APARTMENTS.

THEY CAN CHANGE IT TO SECTION EIGHT.

SO I'M TOTALLY AGAINST IT.

THAT'S MY CONCERN.

OKAY.

3.8 ACRES OF LAND.

HOW MANY HOMES CAN YOU BUILD ON 3.8? SO THAT'S MY CONCERN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY ANYONE ELSE? DID YOU APPROACH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS? GOOD MORNING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.

MY NAME IS JIMMY OR, AND I LIVE AT 7, 7 37 GULF HALE DRIVE.

UH, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR. SMITH THAT, UM, THERE ARE ALREADY APARTMENTS.

WE LIVE ON THE BACKSIDE OF RON GOLF COURSE.

AND SO IN ESSENCE, THERE WAS ALREADY A NEW APARTMENT

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COMPLEX THAT WENT UP ON THAT SIDE.

AND THEN AS HE WAS STATED IN HIS LETTER, THERE'S ALREADY BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STREET WITH EXTREME TRAFFIC.

THE RESTAURANT IS CONSTANTLY BUSY IN ADDITION TO THE CLUB WHERE IN, SINCE THE MUSIC IS RATHER LOUD.

AND SO THE TRAFFIC THERE IS ENORMOUS.

AND ALSO WHEN IT RAINS, THE FLOODING THERE THAT OCCURS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CONSTANT PROBLEM THERE FOR YEARS, EVEN PRIOR TO US MOVING THERE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE LADY THAT IT IS, THERE ARE ALSO APARTMENTS DOWN THE ROAD.

THERE ARE THREE CHURCHES IN THAT VICINITY, SO THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY THERE.

AND SO TO, TO FLOOD THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS SHE STATED, WE MOVED THERE BECAUSE OF IT BEING A QUIET AREA OF, UH, HE ISSUES, HEALTH ISSUES THAT OUR FAMILIES ARE GOING THROUGH SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THE COMFORT AND BE ABLE TO, TO ENJOY THE, THE DURATION OF THEIR LIVES.

AND SO I DO AGREE TO BE, BUT TO KEEP IT AS IT IS QUIET AND SO THAT WE CAN ENJOY.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE TAXES DO GO UP AND HAVE GONE UP AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT EVEN NOW.

AND SO I WOULD PREFER THAT IT REMAINED AS IT IS WITH ALREADY, LIKE I SAID, ONE FACILITY IN THE BANK, BRAND NEW FACILITY.

THEY HAVEN'T EVEN MOVED PEOPLE IN THERE YET.

AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER FACILITY GOING UP RIGHT ON THE FRONT, IN ADDITION TO, AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO LEAVE IT AS IT IS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THE OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THOSE WHO HADN'T CHAMBERS? OKAY.

WE'RE READY FOR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL COSMIN MARKS.

I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. BED ON, UH, LOOKING AT THE RENDERINGS THAT, UH, YOU SHOWED US HERE, UH, THE NUMBER OF HOMES OR FACILITIES THAT WOULD BE BUILT THERE, TOLD LOUDER AS I COUNTED THEM LAST NIGHT, I THINK THERE'S 30, 60, NO, 65 OR 65.

UH, IT, IT TURNED OUT THE, UH, UH, THIS CONSUMMATE, THE, UH, DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING, AS I STATED EARLIER, 70 ZERO LOT LINES LINES, 70 ZERO LOT LINE.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GO THROUGH THAT, BUT LOOKING AT THE DRAWINGS, THEY WEREN'T TO SCALE.

THEY WEREN'T THE SCALE.

OKAY.

SO CAUSE WHEN I COUNTED THOSE OUT, THERE WERE 65, 65 PIECES OF PROPERTY OR HOMES IN THAT, IN THAT SPOT.

THE ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THE, UH, UH, GOING FORWARD, THE LETTERS THAT WERE SENT OUT TO THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA, UH, WE RECEIVED, YOU RECEIVED OPPOSITION TO THE, UH, PLANNING, I MEAN, TO THE ZONING CHANGE, YOU DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING IN FAVOR OF, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ACTUALLY VOTED THREE TO ONE, NOT TO APPROVE IT NOW, AM I CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR ON THOSE, ON THOSE THINGS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WERE MOSES? THANK YOU.

MA'AM UM, MR. BARON, THANK YOU.

OH, THE, UM, INTO THE HOMES, THE PATIO HOMES WE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY AS HOMES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY.

UM, THE THAT'S MY QUESTION.

YES.

CORRECT.

AND THEN, UM, CAN THEY UP THE ONCE CHANGE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, AN APPLICATION, CAN THE OWNERS AT THAT POINT WHERE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO, TO APPLY FOR SECTION EIGHT, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WILL THAT I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

OKAY.

COULD THEY APPLY FOR IT ONCE WE CHANGED THE ZONING, IF IT'S DONE, OR IF IT'S THAT, THAT THAT'S THE REASON FOR HAVING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT? UH, ANYTIME THAT THEY WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN, THEY HAVE TO COME, UH, PROBABLY IN A SITE PLAN AND COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO A SECTION EIGHT APPLICATIONS.

I MEAN, I DON'T, THEY CAN PUT AN APPLICATION OUT, BUT THEY CANNOT BUILD IT FOR, UH, UH, IT IS ONLY FOR WHAT THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ALLOWS AND THAT'S IF THEY BUILD IT FOR THESE, UH, SPECIFIC HOMES, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, I'M NOT AN EXPERT AT THE LAW, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR SECTION EIGHT HOMES AT THAT TIME.

OKAY.

CAN YOU ANSWER THAT, UM, CITY, SECRETARY, CITY ATTORNEY? I THINK I LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S WANT, FIRST OF ALL, IF THEY'RE SOLD AS HOMES WITH A MARKET, A MARKET VALUE RATE, 70 HOMES,

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AND IF SOMEONE CAN COME IN AND CHANGE THAT, AND THEN I JUST WANT CLARITY FOR THE PUBLIC.

OKAY.

SO I WOULD NEED TO GET A COPY OF THE PD.

I HAVE NOT READ THE PD.

SO I'D LIKE TO GET A COPY OF THAT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF YOU'RE A PROPERTY OWNER AND YOU CHOOSE TO LEASE YOUR PROPERTY, YOU CAN LEASE IT IN ANY MANNER THAT YOU SO CHOOSE.

BUT I DON'T HAVE THE BACKGROUND ON THE PD TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE, BUT NORMALLY IT'S JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY YOU OWN, YOU CAN RENT IT, YOU CAN LIVE IN IT.

UH, AND YOU, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY PROHIBITION.

I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT ISSUE.

I'M NOT AWARE OF A PROHIBITION WITH THE INFORMATION I HAVE NOW, BUT THAT'S THE HOMEOWNER, THE DEVELOPER CAN'T SELL AND THEN APPLY.

LET'S CLARIFY A DEVELOPER.

IF IT GOES INTO AN AREA TO BUILD HOMES, HE CAN NOT GO IN AND BUILD HOMES AND THEN CHANGE IT SOMEHOW TO SAY, I'M GOING TO APPLY FOR SECTION EIGHT HOMES.

THAT'S NOT THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE SHE'S BUILDING, HE'S BUILDING HOMES AS A DEVELOPER, HE'S BUILDING HOMES AS SPECIFIED BY THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

SO, NO, HE WOULDN'T, I DON'T THINK HE WOULD, BUT LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN LAW.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

LET ME JUST SHARE THIS.

I MEAN, FROM, FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, AS A PLANNER, IF A DEVELOPER COMES FOR A PD, A PD, YOU'RE MOVING IT FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO PD, IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE, CORRECT.

IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE.

NOW, IF, UH, IF IT'S LEFT AS A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE DEVELOPMENT, A DEVELOPER CAN DEVELOP IT, PUT IN SINGLE FAMILY AND WILL DO WHATEVER HE WANTS WITH IT.

BUT THE INTENTION OF CHANGING IT FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO PD IS TO MAKE IT MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE.

CORRECT? FAIR GUARDSMEN, FRANK.

YES, SIR.

I, I, I HEAR THE SECRETARY AND I HEAR YOU, MR. BATON AS WELL, ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO IS TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS FROM THE PARTICULAR STANDPOINT OF, UH, SOMEONE PERHAPS, UH, UH, BUYING ONE OF THESE, UM, PATIO HOMES.

AND THEN AFTER, UH, OWNING IT, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO THEN SWITCH OVER TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SECTION EIGHT OR RELEASE IT, HOWEVER THEY WOULD CHOOSE TO ALLOW SOMEBODY ELSE TO LIVE THERE, UH, TO SUBLEASE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH YOUR REALTOR.

THAT'S WHY YOU SO SMART, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT TO SUB LEASE IT AND THEN THEREBY EXPOSING CITIZENS AND EXPOSING OTHER INDIVIDUALS.

AND SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AS A COUNCIL, UH, TO LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, POSSIBILITY OF THAT HAPPENING AS WELL, AND A STRONG, A VERY STRONG, UH, RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING AND ZONING.

WHEN YOU HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS SAYING NO AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, AS OPPOSED TO BEING ON BOARD WITH IT HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, MAYOR.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN FRANK AND, AND I, I WANT TO JUST BE CLEAR WITH IT BECAUSE I, I HEAR WHERE COUNCILMAN MOSES HAS GONE WITH THIS PARTICULAR THING.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE A CHANGE, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD IT AFFECT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS? AND I'M NOT REALLY GETTING A CLEAR ANSWER ON THAT.

SO UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR PARTICULAR BOARD WAS FREE TO ONE, UNDERSTAND THE CITY MANAGER SAID IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE, BUT WE HAVE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS UP HERE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALL GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE.

IF WE MAKE A CHANGE THAT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR CITIZENS IN A POSITIVE WAY, UH, I LOVE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, EVERYONE KNOWS ON THIS COUNCIL AND MOST OF US ON THIS COUNCIL, WE DO NOT WANT ANY MORE SECTION EIGHT OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN PORT ARTHUR.

WE ARE SATURATED WITH IT AND WE ARE SICK OF IT.

AND WE GET SO MANY PEOPLE COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AND SAY ONE THING, AND THEN IT END UP BEING ANOTHER.

SO THIS COUNCIL HAS TAKEN A STRONG STANCE ON PREVENTING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS FROM HAPPENING.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE JUST SO DETAILED AND WANTING TO GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION, UH, ATTORNEY, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON TODAY.

AM I UNDERSTANDING RIGHT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO, THE ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA AND IT'S UP TO YOU ALL, IF YOU WANT TO ACT TODAY OR ACT LATER.

SO THE ITEM IS PO 772 AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE COUNCIL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO THAT LETS YOU KNOW, MR B, THAT WE HAD TAKEN A STRONG STANCE IN UNDERSTANDING HOW DEVELOPING, UH, OPPORTUNITIES ARE ON THE COUNCIL.

SO WE REALLY WANT TO GET THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE A COLLECTIVE COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

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WE CAN GET TO ALL THE ANSWERS YOU WANT TO ANY QUESTIONS.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM UH, COUNCILMAN JONES.

YEAH.

MA'AM IF WE HAVE TIME, CAN WE GET A VEIL RESEARCH? JUST IT'S QUESTIONS.

THEY DON'T DO A JOB, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE A GOOD ANSWER SIDE ANNOUNCEMENT.

I WOULD SAY THE ATTORNEY GET BACK WITH WAIT.

OKAY.

BAIL.

YEAH, WE CAN ALL WORK ON IT AND IT GIVES A GOOD ALPHA REHOUSE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND, AND EXACTLY.

WE WANT TO DO THIS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

SO DO WE, ARE WE AGAINST ANY TYPE OF TIMEFRAME OR TIME CRUNCH AND IN APPROVING THIS IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO WORK ON IT TODAY, UM, YOU CAN ALWAYS TABLE IT TILL THE NEXT MEETING.

AND THAT WAY YOU'LL KNOW A DATE.

CERTAIN YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING, WHATEVER WOULD I BE APPROPRIATE AT MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION.

NOW WE GOT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM, WHATEVER DATES YOU CAN PUT A SPECIFIC DATE WHEN THAT TIME COMES AFTER WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. MAYOR, MAY I SAY ONE MORE THING PLEASE, SIR.

MR. RAY, I WANT TO SAY PUBLICLY WHILE WE'RE IN THIS PUBLIC SESSION, THAT OF COURSE I WANT TO CONTINUE TO ADD ON TO THAT, THAT HERE IN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, I THINK THAT AS A COUNCIL AND AS CITIZENS, WE WANT DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE, WE KNOW WE WANT PEOPLE.

WE WANT OUR CITY TO GROW.

IT ADDS TO OUR TAX BASE.

IT ADDS TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR CITY.

SO I WANT US TO WANT DEVELOPMENT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO LISTEN TO OUR CITIZENS.

WE WANT TO MAKE PORT ARTHUR A PLACE WHERE INDIVIDUALS WILL WANT TO STAY AND WHERE INDIVIDUALS WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR VOICE IS BEING HEARD AND THAT THEIR DESIRES ARE BEING, UH, AT LEAST LISTENED TO.

SO I WANTED TO ADD THAT TO THE, TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC RECORD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND WE'LL GET YOU ALL THE ANSWERS YOU NEED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

SO UP READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING CAUSED REMARKS.

SOME MAY GET A SECOND.

COSMIC KENALOG.

SECOND MARRIAGE IS A MOVING SECOND THAT WE WOULD END THE PUBLIC HEARING.

READY FOR QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED AS I HAVE THIS RESULT AUDIT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NUMBER ONE HAS NOW ENDED NOW WITHOUT BEING A COMPANION, UH, ITEM TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NUMBER

[VIII.B.2. P. O. No. 7072 — An Ordinance Amending The Zoning Ordinance Of The City Of Port Arthur By Creating Planned Development District — 42 ( PD- 42) On Approximately 3. 578 ( Called 3. 5625) Acres Of Land Being Of Tract II, Reserve " B", Fairway Estates, ( North Of Jimmy Johnson Boulevard And East Of U. S. Highway 69), Port Arthur, Jefferson County, Texas ( Violation Of This Ordinance Or The Zoning Ordinance Of The City Of Port Arthur Is Punishable As Provided In Section 1- 13 Of The Code Of Ordinances As Amended By Fine Not Exceeding Two Thousand [$ 2, 000. 00] Dollars); And Providing For Publication In The Official Newspaper Of The City Of Port Arthur Effective Immediately After Publication Date. Z22- 02 — Golf Hills Villas / D& T Interests, LLC.]

ONE ON PAGE 11, IT P O NUMBER, UH, 7 0 7 2, UH, WITH THE AUTUMN ISSUE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR ABOUT CREATING A PD, UH, DISTRICT OF 42 ON APPROXIMATELY 3.6 ACRES OF LAND, UM, BEING ATTRACT NUMBER TWO RESERVE, BE FAIRWAYS, THE STATE NORTH OF JIMMY JOHNSON BOULEVARD AND EAST OF US HIGHWAY 69, PORT AUTHORED JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS VIOLATION OF THE DAUGHTER, DAUGHTERS, ALL THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR IS PUNISHABLE, UH, AS PROVIDED IN SECTION ONE DASH 13 OF CODE OF ORDINANCES AS AMENDED BY FINE, NOT EXCEEDING $2,000 AND PROVIDING FOR A PUBLICATION IN THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER OF THE CITY OF PORT ARPA EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AFTER PUBLICATION DATE AND IT'S Z 22 DASH ZERO TWO GOLF HILLS VILLAS, UH, D AND T INTEREST L L C UH, MAY I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THIS COSMIC, UH, MIR I MOVED TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING ON JULY 5TH.

SECOND TO THAT COUNCILOR FRANK SECOND MAYOR, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECOND THAT THE ITEM, UH, PO NUMBER 7 0 7 TO BE TABLED UNTIL OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING.

READY FOR COURSE, AND ON ANY QUESTIONS READY TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED US AS HAVING SORT OF IS ON APPEAL.

NUMBER 7 0 7 2 WILL BE ACTED UPON AT OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING.

THANK YOU.

NOW WE'RE READY

[IV.2. A Public Hearing For The Purpose To Discuss And Receive Public Comments Regarding Z22- 05 — Specific Use Permit For Approximately 0. 7602- Acre Of Land Consisting Of Lots 7- 12, Block 345, City Of Port Arthur Addition ( 2301 Gulfway Drive), Port Arthur, Jefferson County, Texas, For The Operation Of A Package Store A Precise Drawing And Description Of This Property Will Also Be Presented At The Public Hearing And Can Be Examined In The City Planning Department, City Hall, Port Arthur, Texas If You Cannot Attend The Meeting You May Send A Letter To The Planning Director, City Of Port Arthur, 444 Fourth Street, Planning Department Third Floor, Port Arthur, TX 77641. If There Are Additional Questions You May Contact The Planning Department At 409) 983- 8133 The Public Will Also Be Able To View The Public Hearing Via The ity' s Website At www. portarthurtx. gov.]

FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

NUMBER TWO, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE TO DISCUSS AND RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING Z 22 DASH ZERO FIVE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR APPROXIMATELY 700 TEVIN, UH, KITSCH ACRES OF LAND, UH, CONSISTENT, UH, UH, LOT SELL LOTS SEVEN THROUGH 12 BLOCK 3 45 CITY OF PORT ARTHUR EDITION, 23 0 1 GULF WAY.

DRIVE PORT AUTHOR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS FOR THE OPERATION OF A PACKAGE STORE IT PRECISE DRAWING AND DESCRIPTION OF THIS PROPERTY WILL ALSO BE PRESENTED AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CAN BE EXAMINED IN THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, CITY HALL, PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS.

UH, IF YOU CANNOT ATTEND THE, UH,

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MEETING, YOU MAY SEND A LETTER TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, 4 44 FOURTH STREET PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THIRD FLOOR PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS 7 7 6 4 1.

IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, YOU MAY CONTACT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AT 4 0 9 9 8 3 8 1 3 3.

AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING WOULD ALSO BE A VIEW OF VIA THE CITY'S PUBLIC CITY'S WEBSITE AT WWW PORT AUTHOR, TX.GOV.

WE'RE READY TO BEGIN.

UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, UH, CITY COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR APPROXIMATELY 0.7602 ACRE OF LAND CONSISTING OF LOTS 11 SEVEN THROUGH 12 BLACK 3 45 CITY OF PORT ARTHUR ADDITION VOLUME ONE PAGE 50 PORT ARTHUR JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS.

AN APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON APRIL 11TH, 2022, REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR OTHER PROPERTY REFERENCED ABOVE THE COMMISSION, HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 16TH, 2022, WHERE CITIZENS WERE INVITED TO EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SAID REQUEST THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED FOUR TO ZERO RECOMMENDING THE ZONING AMENDMENTS APPROVAL BASED ON DISCUSSION ON MAY 24TH, 2022 CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER 22 DASH 22 8 CALLING FOR A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE PREPARED AND MAILED NOTIFICATIONS FOR TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING, AS WELL AS PUBLISH PUBLIC NOTICE IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD ON MARCH 16TH, 2022.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY LOCATED IN THE LIGHT COMMERCIALS ON DISTRICT.

THIS DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A LOCATION FOR GENERAL RETAIL ACTIVITIES.

THESE LOCATIONS ARE GENERALLY ALONG, UH, ALONG MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND HIGHWAYS.

THERE IS NO CHANGE REQUESTED TO THE UNDERLYING ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED PER SECTION 22 SPECIAL CONDITIONS.

NUMBER 28 OF APPENDIX A OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH STATES THAT A PACKAGE STORE SHALL NOT BE LOCATED ON A LOT OR TRACT OF LAND ADJACENT TO OR ACROSS THE STREET FROM A SINGLE FAMILY OR TWO FAMILY DISTRICT.

AND THAT'S LOCATED IN A SHOPPING CENTER OF WHICH IT COMPROMISES NOT MORE THAN 25% OF THE FLOOR AREA IN THE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, DUE TO THE PROPOSED USE, BEING ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT TO THE NORTH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS BEING SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT.

THE SITE LOCATION IS ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH EAST AND WEST NORTHWEST.

UH, THE SITE IS LOCATED IN NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF GOLF, WHERE HE DRIVE AND BLUE BONNET AVENUE BETWEEN LIBERTY AND ST.

AUGUSTINE AVENUES, PUBLIC NOTICES WERE MAILED TO 30 PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET RADIUS OF THE PROPOSED SITE AND PUBLISHED IN THE PORT ARTHUR NEWSPAPER ON THE FOLLOWING DATES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

IT WAS APRIL 30TH, 2022.

THEY RECEIVED NO WRITTEN OPPOSITIONS, NO VERBAL OPPOSITIONS AND NO LETTERS WERE RETURNED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, THE, UH, PUBLICATIONS IN THE NEWSPAPER ON JUNE 4TH, 2022 AND MAIL OUTS WERE JUNE 10TH, 2020 TO RECEIVE NO WRITTEN OPPOSITIONS, NO VERBAL OPPOSITIONS OR NO EDITS RETURN.

THAT'S THE END.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, THOSE WHO, AND IN CHAMBERS, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, FOR THE ITEM, NUMBER TWO ON A PUBLIC HEARING, NUMBER TWO, ANY, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NUMBER TWO, YOU NEED TO APPROACH MA'AM.

PLEASE NEED TO APPROACH POLICE, NEED TO APPROACH.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.

MA'AM SANDRA DARGAN.

I DON'T LIVE AROUND THERE, BUT IS THAT A LIQUOR STORE YOU'RE ASKING? YES.

OR SHE TALKING ABOUT A PACKAGE STORE? IS THERE A NICKEL STORE? YES.

MA'AM WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE.

THOSE.

NO WORRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON IT? ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? COUNCILMAN FRANK? YES, SIR.

DID WE HAVE IT? DO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING? HE SAID IT.

I DIDN'T HEAR HIM.

OKAY.

HE SAID FOUR, ZERO.

YES.

FULL .

OKAY.

I MISSED IT.

I'M SORRY.

OH, WOW.

OKAY.

YOU SAID YOU DID.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM, FROM COUNCIL? OKAY.

IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL WE'RE READY, SHE WOULD ENTERTAIN

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A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC, HEARING OUR COUNCIL WOMAN AT HOMES, BUT GET A SECOND.

COUNCIL.

MCKENNA IS BEEN MOVED AND SECOND THAT WE WERE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME, WE WERE READY FOR QUESTION AND ANY QUESTIONS WE'RE READY TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? NAY, AYES HAVE IT.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

[VIII.B.3. P. O. No. 7073 — An Ordinance Amending The Zoning Ordinance Of The City Of Port Arthur By Granting Specific Use Permit # 241 To Allow The Land Use Of " Package Store" On 0. 7602- Acre Of Land Consisting Of Lots 7- 12, Block 345, City Of Port Arthur Addition ( 2301 Gulfway Drive), Port Arthur, Jefferson County, Texas ( Violation Of This Ordinance Or The Zoning Ordinance Of The City Of Port Arthur Is Punishable As Provided In Section 1- 13 Of The Code Of Ordinances As Amended By Fine Not Exceeding Two Thousand [$ 2, 000. 00] Dollars); And Providing For Publication In The Official Newspaper Of The City Of Port Arthur Effective Immediately After Publication Date. Z22- 05 — Zanamar Properties, LLC]

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS MOVE TO PO NUMBER 7 0 7 3 ON PAGE 11, WHICH IS A COMPANION ITEM ON THE PRINTED AGENDA WITH PUBLIC HEARING.

NUMBER TWO, IT IS AN AUTONOMOUS AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR BY GRANTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 41 TO ALLOW THE LAND USE OF PACKAGE STORE ON 7 0 7 TENTHS OR, UH, ACRES OF LAND, UH, CONSISTING OF BLOCK SEVEN THROUGH 12 BLOCK, UH, 3 45, UH, CITY OF PORT ARTHUR EDITION, 2,301 GULF WAY.

DRIVE PORT ARTHUR, JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE OR THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PORT.

ARTHUR IS PUNISHABLE AS PROVIDED IN SECTION ONE DASH ONE, THREE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AS AMENDED BY FINE, NOT EXCEEDING $2,000 AND, UH, PROVIDING FOR A PUBLICATION IN THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER OF THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR EFFECTED IMMEDIATELY AT THE PUBLICATION DATE, Z 22 DASH OR FIVE DAZ ZANA MOP PROPERTIES.

L L C MAY I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? COUNCILWOMAN.

MOSES MAY GET A SECOND COLUMN FROM THE FRONT.

IT'S MOVING SECOND THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT PO NUMBER SEVEN, ZERO OH, OH, OH, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

I MAY GET A SECOND COUNCILMAN MARKS.

IT HAS BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND THAT WE WOULD GET, WE WOULD, UH, APPROVE PO NUMBER SEVEN, ZERO DASH SEVEN THREE, UH, AS RED.

WE'RE READY FOR QUESTION? WE'RE NOT READY TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED? NO.

NO.

OKAY.

LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.

I COULDN'T DISTINGUISH FROM THE SOUTH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

MAYOR PRO TEM HOMES.

NO COUNCIL MEMBER FRANK, NO COUNCIL MEMBER.

KEN LAW.

YEAH.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

MARK'S COUNCIL MEMBER.

MOSES MAYOR BARTINI.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT A TIE VOTE.

COUNCILMAN JONES, BUT NO.

SO THE MEASURE FAILS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NOW.

UH, LIZ MENTIONED IT AT PASS.

OKAY.

UH, WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO OUR REGULAR FLOW OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE, UH, PRESENTATIONS.

[III.B.1. A Presentation By LithTech Sales And Marketing Vice President Roy Mullin Regarding Stronger, Better Roads For Less Cost ( Requested By Councilmember Frank)]

WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY LIP TECH, SALES AND MARKETING, VICE PRESIDENT, UH, RA MULLEN REGARDING STRONGER, BETTER ROADS FOR LESS COST.

AND THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER.

FRANK, WHAT'S YOUR APPROACH, PLEASE LET US KNOW YOUR NAME.

THIS IS ROY MULLEN.

AND UH, THANK YOU.

FIRST OF ALL, FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND MAYOR BARTY FOR INVITING US HERE FOR A PRESENTATION, AND I'M GOING TO DO A BIT OF A FLOOR SHOW FOR YOU IF THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY.

AND YOU CAN BRING THE MIC IF YOU WANT TO STAY RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

THIS IS, UH, THIS IS ONCE I STARTED DOING THAT WORK ON THE RECORDING.

THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY.

IF YOU HAD TO MAKE ANY HAIR OR SHE'S GOING TO GET IT FOR YOU, SHE'S GOING TO GET IT FOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S BEING RECORDED.

I DON'T WANT TO DOCUMENT THIS WILL BE G SHE HAS ONE FOR YOU.

THERE YOU GO.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THAT, IS THAT BETTER? EXCELLENT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THIS IS FROM THE BASE OF THE ROAD.

THIS IS FROM PROCTOR.

SO WE PULLED A BIG SAMPLE FROM PROCTOR ROAD ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, SENT THE SAMPLE OFF TO OUR LAB IN ALBUQUERQUE.

THEY CUSTOMIZED OUR PRODUCT LIFTECH, WHICH IS A BIG A MATERIAL THAT WILL TURN THE BASE TO STONE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO BASEMENT PERIOD THAT HAS NOT BEEN MOTTO HAS BEEN COMPRESSED.

SO

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IF I DO THIS DEMONSTRATION, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I'M GONNA BE ASKING YOU, IF YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR EXPENSIVE ASPHALT ON TOP OF THAT ON TOP OF THE OTHER POCKETS, IT FALLS APART IN THE WATER AND THIS IS BASED ON MATERIAL THAT HAS NOT BEEN LIQUIFIED HAS JUST BEEN COMPRESSED.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOUR ASPHALT'S CURRENTLY SITTING ON.

I PROMISE I'LL CLEAN UP THE MESS WAY.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT FOR A MINUTE.

PACKAGING MATERIAL.

I'LL BE .

SO THE BASE OF A ROAD TYPICALLY FAILS AS A RESULT OF HEAVY TRUCKS, HEAVY TRAFFIC, WATER INTRUSION.

I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS OCCASIONALLY GET STORM SURGES.

IS THERE WATER AROUND PORT ARTHUR? I DON'T KNOW.

SO IF WATER GETS INTO THE BASE, THE BASE BEGINS TO FALL APART WHEN THE BASE FALLS APART, WHATEVER YOU HAVE ON THE SURFACE, THE ASPHALT OR WHATEVER, BEGINS TO FALL INTO THE HOLE WHERE THE BASE USED TO BE PUDDLES, RIGHT? THOSE ARE SAFETY ISSUES.

THOSE ARE ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS. SORRY, COUNCILMAN JOE CELL.

I HAD A QUESTION THOUGH.

OH, I'M SORRY.

SO HEAVY TRAFFIC, WATER INTRUSION OR FREEZE THAW CYCLES.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S MUCH OF AN ISSUE IN PORT ARTHUR YET, BUT WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, WHO KNOWS, BUT WE SOLVE ALL OF THOSE.

ALL RIGHT.

AND WE TYPICALLY DO THAT AT LESS COST.

SOME OF THE INFORMATION I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU, THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET, WE DID A CASE STUDY ON THREE ROADS IN PORT ARTHUR, TOTAL 1.6, SEVEN MILES PROCTOR WAS ONE OF THOSE.

AND WE WENT THROUGH KIND OF THE EIGHTH SIDE OF THAT AND SAID, IF YOU JUST DID A TRADITIONAL REPAIR OF THOSE ROADS AND FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION RIPPED OUT THE FAILED ROAD, PUT INTO THE BASE MATERIAL, PUT INTO ASPHALT, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WHAT WOULD THAT COST YOU? AND THEN WE COMPARED IT WITH WHAT WE CAN DO WITH LIFTECH BECAUSE WHAT NORMALLY IS HAPPENING WITH THE BASE OF A ROAD IS YOU'RE TRYING TO USE SOIL STABILIZERS OR PORTLAND, CEMENT, OR LIME, OR WHATEVER, TO TRY AND GET THE BASE OF THE ROAD TO STICK TOGETHER WELL ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN PUT THE ASPHALT ON TOP AND ASK THE ASPHALT TO DO THE HEAVY WORK.

ALL RIGHT.

ASPHALT'S EXPENSIVE.

RIGHT? AND IT'S GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE TRACKING THAT STUFF, BUT IT IS JUST SKYROCKETING.

SO WHAT WE DO IS WE MOVE THE STRENGTH OF THE ROAD INTO THE BASE ITSELF.

THEREFORE, YOU DON'T NEED FOUR INCHES OF ASPHALT ON TOP OR SIX INCHES OF ASPHALT ON TOP TO HANDLE THOSE HEAVY TRUCKS, YOU CAN DO TWO INCHES, INCH AND A HALF.

NOW WHAT, WE'RE NOT GOOD FOR? WE DON'T DO PATCHES.

WE DON'T DO POTHOLES.

THAT SORT OF THING.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO.

WE'RE FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION, OR REPLACING A COMPLETELY FAILED ROAD OR BUILDING A NEW ROAD.

ALL RIGHT.

AND IF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A RESIDENTIAL ROAD ON A CUL-DE-SAC WITH A COUPLE OF PRIUS'S ON IT.

THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WHAT WE'RE GOOD FOR, BUT YOU TALK ABOUT HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC.

THAT'S OUR STRONG SUIT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, AND IT'S NOT JUST OUR IN-HOUSE LAB.

THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE THAT DOCUMENTATION FOR YOU.

AND WE DO TAKE THE MATERIAL FROM EACH INDIVIDUAL ROAD.

WE SEND IT TO THE LAB.

WE CUSTOMIZE THE PRODUCT TO MATCH THOSE BASE MATERIALS.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO HAUL OFF THE MATERIALS YOU'VE ALREADY PAID FOR AND BRING IN FRESH MATERIALS.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO GRIND UP THE EXISTING MATERIALS YOU HAVE ADD LIFTECH ADD WATER TO IT.

IT WILL SOLIDIFY.

WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT INTO A HARD BASE.

AND WE HAVE A ROAD IN HARRIS COUNTY THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE.

UH, I THINK WHERE THE MARTIN FLOOD HERE TODAY, I THINK THERE'S MARTIN.

I THINK MARTIN WENT OVER AND WALKED AROUND ON THAT ROAD AND HE TOOK THE ENGINEER FROM THE COMMISSIONERS DISTRICT COURT WAS IN KENNY COMMISSIONER.

UH, ADRIAN GARCIA'S DISTRICT IS WHERE THAT ROAD WAS HELD.

HE HAS THE PORT IN HIS DISTRICT, A LOT OF HEAVY TRUCKS, A LOT OF HEAVY TRUCKS.

AND I THINK THEY WERE THE COUNCIL.

THE, EXCUSE ME, THE, THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE HAS BEEN VERY PLEASED.

I THINK MR. FLOOD WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT HE SAW.

AND I GUESS I SHARE ONE OF MY FAVORITE STORIES CAUSE WE HAD SOMEBODY, I FORGOT WHO SOMEBODY ON THE STAFF IN PORT ARTHUR, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WANTING TO TALK TO SOMEBODY THAT HAD ONE OF THESE ROADS IN PLACE.

THERE'S A ROAD IN, UH, NEW MEXICO WHERE SOMEHOW GOOGLE MAPS DECIDED, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD SAVE THOSE TRUCKERS 11 SECONDS IF WE TOOK THEM OFF INTERSTATE 40

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AND RAN THEM DOWN THIS COUNTY ROAD, INSTEAD, IT WASN'T TRUE.

BUT HOW DO YOU CONVINCE GOOGLE MAPS? THAT'S NOT TRUE.

SO NOW YOU SUDDENLY HAVE 18 WHEELERS AT 80 MILES AN HOUR FLYING DOWN A COUNTY ROAD THAT STRANGELY ENOUGH WAS NOT DESIGNED TO DO THAT.

AND THE ROAD FAILED THREE TIMES AND THEY FINALLY SAID, OKAY, LET'S TRY SOMETHING NEW.

THEY HEARD ABOUT LIFTECH PUTTING LIFTECH ROAD.

THAT'S BEEN ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.

AND SOMEBODY FROM THE PORT, ARTHUR STAFF CALLED AND ASKED THE, UH, THE ROAD AND BRIDGE ENGINEER ROAD AND BRIDGE ENGINEER THERE, WHAT'S MAINTENANCE BEEN LIKE, HOW HAS THAT ROAD BEEN FOR YOU? AND THERE WAS THIS LONG PAUSE.

AND HE SAID, WELL, WE DO STILL HAVE TO MOW THE GRASS.

SO WE CAN'T SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS WHERE YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO MOW THE GRASS OR HAVE WE PUT IN LIFTECH ROAD, WE ARE GOING TO SAVE YOU MONEY.

WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT IN A STRONGER ROAD.

WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR THE CITIZENS OF PORT ARTHUR.

WHEN THEY NEED TO LEAVE.

WHEN THE HURRICANE IS COMING, WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU OUT OF THIS OUT SAFELY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE, UH, LAB REPORTS FROM OUR IN-HOUSE LAB.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

THIS IS PROCTOR ROAD, WHICH IS IN YOUR PACKET AND IT TALKS ABOUT INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

WHAT KIND OF STRENGTH ARE YOU EXPECTING? WHAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY YOU'RE EXPECTING? THE HIGHER, THE NUMBER, THE STRONGER THE ROAD IS THE MORE FLEXIBLE THE ROAD IS.

THE MORE GIVE THERE IS IN THE ROAD.

IT'S NOT GOING TO CRACK.

IT'S NOT GOING TO FAIL.

ALL RIGHT, HIGH PERFORMANCE STANDARDS HAVE KIND OF A SECOND COLUMN.

THAT'S OUR IN-HOUSE STANDARDS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM ON 500,000 PSI, THAT'S WHAT ASPHALT ACHIEVES.

THAT'S HOW STRONG ASPHALT IS ON PROCTOR ROAD.

WE GOT 904,000, ALMOST TWICE AS STRONG AS ASPHALT.

AND YET WE HAVE THE SAME DUCTILITY, THE SAME FLEXIBILITY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IN ASPHALT.

THERE'S SOME GIVE TO IT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND WE'VE ALSO DONE ONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH CALCIUM SULFATE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT A CHALLENGE IN YOUR ROAD BASE? IT IS AN INDUSTRY BY-PRODUCT AND GALVESTON COUNTY IN PARTICULAR GOT TALKED INTO USING THAT AS THE BASE MATERIAL FOR THEIR ROADS.

ABOUT 20 ODD YEARS AGO, TURNS OUT WHEN WATER TOUCHES CALCIUM SULFATE, IT POPCORNS IT EXPLODES.

SO IMAGINE THAT IN THE BASE OF YOUR ROAD AND YOUR GALVESTON, YOU GET WATER.

ALL RIGHT.

THE LAST ROAD THEY DID WHERE THEY THOUGHT THEY'D SOLVED IT WITH MORE PORTLAND, CEMENT AND MORE LIME.

UH, THE ROAD FAILED IN SIX MONTHS, WE SAID, SEND US A SAMPLE, GIVE US YOUR WORST ROAD, WHERE YOU'RE HAVING THAT MO THAT BIG OF A CHALLENGE.

THEY SENT US THAT SAMPLE AND WE CONDUCTED OUR TEST.

AND YOU'LL FIND THAT IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL, PORTLAND CEMENT CAN'T CONTROL ITS LINE CAN CONTROL IT.

WE DID.

AND WE HAD TO USE A 5% DOSING.

THAT'S A HIGHER DOSING THAN NORMAL, BUT WE BIND THE MATERIAL, THE WATER CAN'T GET TO THE CALCIUM SULFATE ANYMORE.

ALL RIGHT.

AND YOU MIGHT HEAR US GET LUMPED IN OCCASIONALLY AS A OH, YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE SOIL STABILIZERS.

NO, WE'RE NOT SOIL STABILIZERS.

TYPICALLY TRY TO GLUE THE BASE OF ERODE TOGETHER AND HOPE THAT IT WILL HANG TOGETHER AND HOPE THAT IT WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH THAT IT CAN SUPPORT THE ASPHALT ON TOP.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO.

WE'RE NOT A SOIL STABILIZER.

THERE IS A MOLECULAR CHANGE IN THE MATERIALS.

WE TURN IT TO STONE.

AND THEN I'VE GIVEN YOU A CASE STUDY ON HARRIS COUNTY.

UH, AND THEN I'LL WRAP UP WITH THAT HARRIS COUNTY.

UM, THE ROAD THAT THEY PICKED AND THE CONTRACTOR THEY PICKED, WENT IN INTO THE FIRST LANE OF THIS ROAD.

WEATHER CONDITIONS WERE PERFECT.

THE EQUIPMENT WAS PERFECT.

THE INSTALLATION WENT BEAUTIFULLY.

THE NEXT WEEKEND.

IT RAINED ALL WEEKEND.

OKAY.

AND MOISTURE CONTROL WAS ONE OF OUR ISSUES.

IT WOULD BE WITH ANY PRODUCT, PORTLAND, CEMENT, WHATEVER WE HAD ABOUT 32% MOISTURE CONTENT.

WE NEED ABOUT 7%.

AND THE CONTRACTOR JUST BY GEORGE, I GOT CREWS, I GOT EQUIPMENT.

WE'RE BUSY.

AND HE SENT A PICKUP TRUCK OUT ON THE OTHER LANE OF THE SAME ROAD.

THE PICKUP TRUCK GOT STUCK AND HE SAID, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

HE DRAGGED THAT OUT, SENDING A RECLAIMER, OKAY.

A PICKUP TRUCK IS GOING TO GET STUCK, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE FINE WITH RECLAIMER.

IT'S SUNK UP TO THE AXLES.

HE DID ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING WRONG, EVERYTHING WE ADVISED HIM TO DO.

HE DID EVERY BIT OF IT WRONG.

HOLD THE RECLAIM AROUND SMOOTHED OUT THE ROAD, GAVE IT A FEW DAYS.

LET IT DRY WORKED ANYWAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE ROAD THAT MARTIN FLOOD WENT AND WALKED AROUND ON.

SO THAT STORY IS IN YOUR PAMPHLET AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT, I GUESS I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS.

DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY FOR ME AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO TRY AND CONSERVE YOUR TIME.

I KNOW Y'ALL HAD A, THEY RUN A LITTLE LATE TODAY ON SOME THINGS COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.

HOW ARE YOU DOING? I'M DOING WELL.

GOOD.

I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR DEMONSTRATION GOING THERE.

UM, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THE EROSION OF, UM, THE NONLINEAR FIVE BLOCK, UH, TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE SEE IT IN THIS HANDOUT? YEAH.

WHAT YOU SEE THERE TOOK ABOUT FOUR HOURS.

OKAY.

I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO STAND HERE THAT LONG AND WAIT FOR ME TO FINISH THAT.

BUT I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE JAR, NOW YOU CAN ALREADY SEE IT'S BEGINNING TO FALL APART.

EVEN IN THE FEW MINUTES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING AND THAT IS BASE MATERIAL HAS SIMPLY BEEN CONTACT KIND OF COMPRESSED, EXCUSE ME.

THE ONE ON THE LEFT, THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN LITHOFAYNE YOU CAN SEE A FLAKE HAS NOT COME OFF OF IT.

I THINK I COULD LEAVE THAT JAR IN THAT PUCK

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THERE FOR FIVE YEARS, YOU COULD COME BACK AND THERE STILL WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A FLAKE THAT FELL OFF OF IT.

SO WATER INTRUSION IS A CHALLENGE WITH A BASE IN YOUR ROADS.

WE CAN SOLVE THAT.

AND AGAIN, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR EXPENSIVE ASPHALT ON TOP OF THE LIFT, THE FIVE BASE OR THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO FALL APART? WHEN THE WATER COMES AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE YOU MONEY.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE YOU MONEY ON THE FRONT END, INSTALLING THAT ROAD.

WE'RE GOING TO SAVE YOU MONEY.

LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE.

OKAY.

FUTURE MAINTENANCE COST WILL BE DRAMATICALLY REDUCED.

AND I WANT TO TOUCH ON ONE THING I UNDERSTAND THE YEAR OR SO AGO, SOME RUMOR GOT STARTED THAT WE DID A ROAD FOR BEAUMONT.

IT WAS AWFUL.

IT FELL APART AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

WE'VE ONLY DONE ONE ROAD IN TEXAS THAT WAS IN HARRIS COUNTY.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT, BUT WE HAVE NOT DONE A ROAD IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, MUCH LESS BEAUMONT.

SO THAT WAS NOT CORRECT.

AND IT'S THE DRY POWDER.

I THINK THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A LIQUID PRODUCT.

WE'RE NOT LIQUID WE'RE, WE'RE A POWDER IT IN TERMS OF CREWS AND EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH, WE USE STANDARD STANDARD CRUISE STANDARD EQUIPMENT.

WE CAN TRAIN YOUR, YOUR STAFF AND CREW IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT, UH, IF YOU NEED TO ACCESS EQUIPMENT LIKE, UH, UH, THE RIGHTS, CEMENT, SPREADER, THAT SORT OF THING, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE HAZMAT SUITS OR SPECIAL TRAINING TO ROCKET SCIENCE OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THINK OF IT AS INSTALLING THE SAME WAY THAT YOU WOULD INSTALL PORTLAND, CEMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN FRANK.

NO, I'M SORRY, SIR.

I DIDN'T TURN MY LIGHT ON, OH, COSMIN JONES.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM UH, CINEMA MANAGER.

I STAND, STAND TO BE CORRECTED.

THEN HE COMING FORTH BEFORE THE PRESENTATION ABOUT ROLES.

AND DO WE ALLOCATE THE MONEY, THE BILLION TO THAT STREET AND, UH, AND HAS PRETTY MUCH PICKED OUT FROM A CORRECTION OF THE MANAGER.

I THINK ABOUT IT ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

SO, UM, YES, THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE TO COUNSELING.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY.

UM, IT WAS A ZOOM CALL.

YEAH.

WE DID A ZOOM CALL ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND PROCTOR STREET.

I'M SORRY.

AND UM, YES, THEY DID COME BEFORE COUNCIL ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

AND, UM, PROCTOR STREET EXTENSION WAS BEING IDENTIFIED AS, AS THE GENTLEMAN INDICATED WE HAD THE ENGINEER AT THE TIME.

WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE ENGINEER AT THE TIME WITH THE COMPANY AND, UM, THE ENGINEER WAS INSTRUCTED TO GO THERE AND DO THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT'S NECESSARY IN ORDER TO, UM, LOOK AT THE USE OF THE MATERIAL.

OF COURSE THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF A THING.

ALL WE GOTTA DO IS GET THE WORK DONE.

STREAMING ADVOCATED, BEEN PICKED OUT THE MIGHT BE ALLOCATED, SO NO NEED TO GO TO WORK AND DO THE STREET WHAT'S GOING ON, WHY IT DIDN'T TAKE PLACE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HOLD UP IS, AND THIS IS GOING DO THE STREET.

MAY I, MAY I SPEAK COUNT, UH, COSMIC ON THIS, UH, WITH THIS AND WITH LIT LIT TECH, WE, UH, I KNOW I PERSONALLY INTRODUCED AS COMPANY TO YOU, AND I REMEMBER YOU ALL GIVING THEM, UH, YOUR OPINION AND IF IT WAS IN YOUR DISTRICT RIGHT NOW, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, SAY THE MANAGER, IT WAS THE PREVIOUS, UH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WHO MADE THE DECISION NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS.

OKAY.

UH, IF I, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, UH, AND THAT THE, UH, INNUENDO ABOUT A ROAD BEING NOT DONE PROPERLY, PROBABLY SOMEWHERE ELSE MAY HAVE COME, UH, THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR ADMINISTRATION AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.

AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE PAST ALL OF THAT.

RIGHT.

YOU MAY HAVE BEEN MET AGAINST SINCE THEN, AS I TOLD HIM, GO ON FILE WITH THE, YEAH.

AND, AND FOR WHATEVER REASON IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

SO IMAGINE THE MONEY IS THERE ALLOCATED TO DO IT RIGHT? YES.

YES.

YES.

AND, AND LET ME FURTHER, UM, UM, EXPOUND ON THAT.

WE HAD A CHANGING OF THE GUARD.

WE HAD THE, THE DIRECTOR, THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS THE CITY ENGINEER AT THE TIME, UM, HAS SINCE CHANGED.

UM, THE, THE CITY ENGINEER WAS AWARE ADVANCED IN HIS, WITH THE COMPANY.

UM, BUT WHEN HE LEFT, THERE WAS NO FOLLOW-UP THERE.

AND SO WE HAD TO GET THE BALL ROLLING AGAIN WITH THE NEW CITY ENGINEER.

AND, UM, DR.

HANEY HAS BEEN, COME, COME DOWN.

DR.

HANEY HAS BEEN PART OF IT AS WELL.

UM, KNOW WHAT WE HAVE MADE.

WE HAVE MADE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF PROGRESS AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED.

OKAY.

AND WHAT I LIKE TO DO, AND MAYBE EVEN MY COMMENTS COULD HAVE DONE THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET US OFF TOPIC.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS DEALING WITH HIS PRESENTATION.

AND AT ANOTHER TIME WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO HOW WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, IF I'M, IF I'M CORRECTED THAT, THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU COUNCILMAN OR AN ATTORNEY, AND I'M STILL WITHIN LEGAL BOUNDS OF, UH, FOLLOWING ROBERT'S RULES ON THIS, AM I JUST THE PRESENTATION? RIGHT.

AND NO DISCUSSION, NO DISCUSSION

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ON ME.

RIGHT.

SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK AT ANOTHER TIME WITH ANOTHER, UH, POSTING, UH, COUNCILMAN JONES.

OKAY.

TH TH IT'S YOUR ANSWER AND TO MOVE FORWARD.

YES, SIR.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN, UH, WHAT HAPPENED AT THE TIME, THE STREET THAT WAS CHOSEN TO USE THIS MATERIAL FOR HAD A PIPELINE THAT WAS CROSSING IT, THAT WAS VERY SHALLOW.

SO FOR THEM TO GO AND BE ABLE TO USE THE PRODUCT, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT PIPELINE.

AND THAT'S WHY AT THAT TIME, THAT PROJECT STALLED, IN ADDITION TO WHAT MR. BURTON SAID, THAT CHANGES IN THE PUBLIC WORKS TO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOSH, MCKAYLA.

UH, THANK YOU, MIRROR.

UH, UH, AND I REMEMBER THE ZOOM CALL, UH, THAT YOU HAD OVER A YEAR AGO, BUT MY QUESTIONS I'M LOOKING AT YOUR DEMONSTRATION HERE, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER HUMIDITY.

WE HAVE TO, UH, CONSIDER HEAT.

UH, I HEARD YOU EARLIER SAY THAT YOU DON'T SPECIALIZE IN ANY POTHOLES, BUT MY, MY SECOND HALF OF THAT QUESTION, HOW WOULD YOU GUARANTEE YOUR PRODUCT WORKING IN THIS TYPE OF AREA, UH, TYPE OF WEATHER CONDITIONS? UH, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I REMEMBER ASKING BACK THEN, UH, DOING THE PRESENTATION.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE CHEMICAL ADDITIVE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ADDING TO THE STREETS TO ENSURE THAT IT STAYS SOLID LIKE THAT AS FAR AS THE BASE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THOSE INFORMATION, THAT INFORMATION AS, FOR, AS YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE, THAT'S GOING ON IN PORT ARTHUR, WHICH THE STREETS, I MEAN, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN HOW WE MAINTAIN AND CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN OUR STREETS, BUT HOW CAN YOU GUARANTEE YOUR PARTICULAR PROJECT? AND YOU STATED EARLIER, YOU'VE ONLY DID ONE IN THE, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHICH WAS IN HOUSTON.

SO, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH WISE, YOU ONLY HAVE THAT VARIABLE AT ONE VARIABLE.

THAT'S IN HOUSTON AS A RESEARCHER MYSELF, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO HAVE SAME SIMILAR CONDITIONS TO MEASURE YOUR PRODUCT AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR, UH, CLIMATE OF WEATHER.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO YOU ARE SOMEONE TO GET THOSE ANSWERS.

ABSOLUTELY.

IS THIS, IS THIS GOOD? CAN I DO IT NOW? OKAY.

NOT SURE WHAT THE PROTOCOL WASN'T THAT EXCELLENT QUESTIONS.

ABSOLUTELY.

I WILL POINT OUT IN OUR, IN MY COVER LETTER, WE DID HAVE LOS ALAMOS NATIONAL LAB.

ARGUABLY ONE OF THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS LABS ON PLANET EARTH SPENT ONE YEAR DOING A STUDY OF THIS.

AND THEY CAME UP WITH A 32 PAGE REPORT, WHICH YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THROUGH THAT LINK.

AND THEIR CONCLUSION WAS, WE THINK THIS IS THE FUTURE OF ROADS IN AMERICA.

WE HAVE DONE MANY MILES OF ROADS IN OTHER STATES, COLORADO, UTAH, UH, CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA, MINNESOTA, NOT MINNESOTA, EXCUSE ME.

UH, BUT IN TEXAS, YOU'RE CORRECT.

WE HAVE BEEN HERE LESS THAN TWO YEARS.

AND THE FIRST ROAD WE DID WAS IN HARRIS COUNTY.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY DATA POINT I CAN POINT TO IN TEXAS.

BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH TXDOT HAS A SHORT LIST OF APPROVED INDEPENDENT LABS.

ATLAS IS ONE OF THOSE.

AND WE ARE CURRENTLY IN TEST WITH THEM.

OUR LAB IN NEW MEXICO ASKS DO Y'ALL HAVE RAINFOREST IN TEXAS BECAUSE SOME OF THE TESTS THAT ATLAS IS PUTTING IT THROUGH CERTAINLY WERE SPECIFIC TO HUMIDITY QUESTIONS.

WE GOT THE FIRST ROUND OF REPORTS, ACED IT, THERE, THEIR RESULTS MATCHED OUR RESULTS.

THEY'RE DOING A SECOND ROUND, WHICH WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT FINISHED IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS.

SO IT IS LAB WORK DESIGNED BY ATLAS DESIGNED FOR PRODUCTS IN TEXAS.

WE HAVE BEEN, UH, SELECTED BY, UH, LEAKS.

YEAH.

LEE CITY.

WE'RE DOING THEIR, THEIR CITY COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY IN ABOUT 60 DAYS.

WE'RE DOING A ROAD THERE.

WEBB COUNTY HAS SELECTED US TO DO A ROAD THERE.

UH, AND W WE'LL INVITE YOU.

I HAVE A PUBLIC EVENT WHEN WE DO THE ROAD INSTALLATION.

SO WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO COME BY AND SEE HOW IT'S INSTALLED AND KICK THE TIRES BEYOND THAT.

I CAN ONLY POINT TO LAB RESULTS, AND I CAN POINT TO ROADS OUTSIDE OF TEXAS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR FIVE YEARS OR LONGER.

I HAVEN'T GOT ONE ROAD IN TEXAS.

THAT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS OLD AND HAS DONE GREAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I THINK THIS QUESTION IS GOING TO BE FOR THE CITY MANAGER OR MS. DANIELS, WHERE WOULD THE FUNDING COME FROM, UH, TO DO THE ROAD THAT'S ON THAT PROCTOR EXTENSION? WOULD IT COME INDIVIDUALLY FROM HIS DISTRICT, MR. J COUNCILMAN JONES OR WHERE THEY COME FROM AN ENTIRE COLLABORATION FROM ALL THE FOUR DISTRICTS, IT COMES FROM HIS ALLOCATION FROM ITS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ALLOCATION.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

CITY MANAGER, MANAGER.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, IF NOT, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

WE STAND RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE A NEXT,

[III.B.2. A Presentation By Staff Regarding An Overview Of The City Of Port Arthur Job Fair, Held On June 14, 2022]

A PRESENTATION BY STAFF REGARDING AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY OF PORT AUTHOR'S JOB FAIR.

AND IT WAS HELD ON JUNE 14TH, 2022 TO COME FORWARD.

MS. WIGGINS.

OKAY.

WE CAN GET IT UP.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

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LIKE SEVEN THOUGH.

OKAY.

HOLD ON.

HOLD ON.

HOLD ON.

HOLD ON.

HOLD ON.

HOLD ON.

UH, NO, NO, MA'AM NO, MA'AM, SHE'S GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION, SIR, BUT YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR SEAT.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD.

MA'AM OKAY.

GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, UH, CITIZENS AND STAFF.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE JOB FAIR, WHICH WAS HELD, UM, ON JUNE 14TH AT THE CIVIC CENTER DEPARTMENTS, PARTICIPATING IN THE JOB, FAIR INCLUDED TRANSIT AND EQUIPMENT SERVICES, PARKS AND RECREATION, PUBLIC WORKS, UTILITY OPERATIONS BAR AND POLICE 286 INDIVIDUALS REGISTERED AT THE JOB FAIR THAT EACH DEPARTMENT CONDUCTED INFORMAL INTERVIEWS WITH INDIVIDUALS, WITH THE SKILL SET, FOR THEIR PARTICULAR AREAS OF EXPERTISE.

I HAVE PULLED DEPARTMENTS TO SEE WHAT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE INTERVIEWED IN EACH DEPARTMENT.

AND I CAN GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.

ONCE I RECEIVED FROM EACH DEPARTMENT PARKS AND RECREATION, PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITY OPERATIONS WERE VERY BUSY INTERVIEWING THROUGHOUT THE TIMEFRAME OF THE JOB FAIR AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY OFFER FORMAL INTERVIEWS TO SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY FIND COMPATIBLE FOR THEIR DEPARTMENTS.

BYRON POLICE WERE PRESENT GIVING OUT IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON RECRUITING AND EXPLAINING WHAT STEPS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN TO SECURE A JOB AS A POLICE OFFICER OR A FIREFIGHTER.

OVERALL, THE JOB FAIR WAS A HUGE SUCCESS.

PARTICIPANTS CAME OUT AND SHOWED THEIR INTEREST IN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT JOB FAIR, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN SCHEDULED AS OF YET.

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

MIRROR DIRECTOR.

PERFECT.

PERFECT.

PERFECT.

286, YOU KNOW, FROM PORT ARTHUR, I WOULD IMAGINE A LOT OF THOSE APPLICANTS WERE FROM PORT ARTHUR AND MAJORITY OF THEM WERE THE, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE DOING TO SHOW UP PUBLIC IN OUR CITY, THAT WE WILL ENTERTAIN PORT ARTHUR PEOPLE.

FIRST, LET'S TAKE HER OUT HOME FIRST AND THIS PARTICULAR JOB FAIR.

I MEAN, I GIVE YOU KUDOS IN PRESENTING, GETTING PEOPLE INTERVIEWED, GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE JOBS THAT WE'VE HAD VACANT FOR A VERY LONG TIME AT FIRST, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN I CAME ON, IT WAS LIKE 72.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW LAST REPORTED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, IT WAS 41, MAYBE 42, 42.

SO THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW PEOPLE IN PORT ARTHUR, THAT WE'RE GOING TO INVEST BACK INTO OUR OWN COMMUNITY.

WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES.

SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU KUDOS AND DOING THIS PARTICULAR JOB FAIR FOR OUR CITY AND GETTING THIS, THIS TYPE OF NUMBER THAT'S THAT'S THANK YOU.

OUR OFFICE IN, UM, STAFF WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD ON IT.

OKAY.

AND THE NEXT THING LET'S KEEP THE THUMB ON THESE DIRECTORS AND THESE INDIVIDUALS, THAT'S ACTUALLY DOING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS TO GET THEM TO YOUR OFFICE SO WE CAN GET THEM ON BOARD WITH THE CITY OF, WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GREAT COUNCIL AND MOSES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR TAMIKA.

I LIKE TO SAY WHAT AN AMAZING JOB YOU GUYS DID, SETTING THIS UP, YOUR STAFF, YOUR, UM, THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT HEADS OF THE CITY TO GET PORT ARTHUR ANS HIRED, UM, 286, A 10 DAYS.

I'M SURE THAT THOSE 42 JOBS SHOULD WE FEEL, UH, IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, HOPEFULLY.

SO MY THING WOULD BE COMING BACK AND ASKING THE RESULTS OF THE JOB FAIR SO THAT WE CAN SEE, UM, UM, ARE WE FILLING THE JOBS IN PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS AND GETTING THE, UM, LET ME ASK THIS.

YOU HAVE ANY CDL, UM, UH, APPLICANTS THERE, CDL APPLICANTS.

SO NOW YOU'RE ABLE TO CREATE A POOL OF PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN GO BACK AND HIRE, UH, ONCE YOU'VE VETTED THEM AND NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE PROCESS OF RE TRYING TO REVISIT THEM.

RIGHT.

WE DID LIKE INFORMAL INTERVIEWS AT THE CIVIC CENTER, BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO THE FORMAL INTERVIEW AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE DRUG SCREENS AND PHYSICALS AND ALL OF THAT, BUT WE DID GET A GOOD, UM, NUMBER TO COME UP.

SO CAN I ASK THAT, UM, THE MANAGER, IF WE COULD COME BACK MANAGER WITH AN, I WOULD SAY THREE MONTHS OR TWO 60 DAYS WITH THE RESULTS OF HOW MANY CDL DRIVERS YOU CAME OUT WITH, UH, JUST THE RESULTS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE HIRED, UM, AND, UH, CREATED, I DON'T WANT US TO THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU VETTED FOR CDL.

CAUSE THAT'S, UH, ONE OF OUR MAIN THINGS, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE HIRING IF THEY COME ON WITHOUT A LICENSE, BUT IF YOU GET THEM WITH A LICENSE THAT MAKES THAT PROCESS A LITTLE BIT SHORTER.

SO IF WE COULD BASICALLY, UM, JUST GIVE US A REPORT BACK, I WOULD, UM, JUST WHAT THE RESULTS ARE OF, UM, THE JOB FAIR, EXCELLENT JOB.

AND IT WAS JUST AMAZING, UM, TO SEE, I WISH I COULD HAVE ATTENDED, UM, BUT IT WAS IN THE TIME I HAD SURGERY, BUT I'M GLAD TO BE BACK IN.

AND I'M GLAD TO, UH, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THE NEXT ONE AND JUST ABLE TO SEE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE APPLYING FROM JOBS FROM PORT ARTHUR, THEY EXIST, THEY'RE HERE.

WE NEED TO HIRE THEM.

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AND I'M JUST ELATED THAT WE CAN DEVELOP OUR OWN POOL OF PEOPLE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, COUNCILMAN FRANK.

YES.

AMAZING JOB.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I WAS ABLE TO TALK, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER.

I WAS ABLE, UH, TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT THE EVENT AS WELL.

UM, IF I MIGHT ADD JUST ONE CAVEAT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, THE, UM, THE, UH, JOB FAIR PUT ON FACEBOOK LIVE, UM, THROUGH OUR MEDIA PRESENTATIONS HERE IN THE CITY AS WELL.

UH, FIND A WAY TO, UH, BROADCAST IT SO THAT INDIVIDUALS IN OUR CITY WOULD KNOW THAT THE JOBS ARE AVAILABLE AND THAT AS WELL, WE ARE DOING WHAT IS NEEDFUL, UH, AND NECESSARY TO GET THOSE POSITIONS FILLED, BUT AN AMAZING JOB.

UH, LET'S KEEP GOING.

THE CITY MANAGER DID TALK TO ME AND SAID THAT IT'S GOING TO BE REPLICATED IN THE FUTURE AS WELL AS NEEDED.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING TO GET THOSE POSITIONS FILLED.

AND WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT HAPPENING.

THANK YOU, CRAIG COW'S REMARKS.

UH, YES.

UH, AGAIN, THANKS FOR THE, THE JOB THAT YOU DID PUT IN US, THIS JOB FAIR TOGETHER.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT, UH, THERE'D BE A COORDINATION WITH, UH, THE EDC AND LAMAR BECAUSE OF THE MONIES THAT WE SPEND FOR THE CDL TRAINING TO SEE IF THAT MONEY AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE ACTUALLY PAY TRAINING TO GET THOSE LICENSES ARE IN THAT POOL.

SO THAT WE SEE THAT THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND IS ACTUALLY BEING UTILIZED AND PUT TO GOOD USE HERE IN THE CITY OF PORT, OFF OF GETTING OUR PEOPLE HIGHER.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

COUNCILMAN JONES.

YES.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM.

I WANT TO PICK IT BACK ON CUSTOMER FRANCA.

WE SAID ABOUT GETTING INFORMATION OUT.

IF YOU COULD GIVE A MICHELLE GIFTS, A PIO OFFICER, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, SHE COULD HELP YOU SPREAD THE WORD BY THE JOB PALS AND WHATEVER HIRING HIM, WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO KEEP HER ACTUALLY INVOLVED MORE INVOLVE HER IN THIS PROCESS, BUT SHE WASN'T WALKING IN THE FUTURE.

PLEASE.

WE NEED HER ON BOARD TOO, WITH YOU AND GOOD JOB.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

CITY MANAGER, IF I'M REFERENCED TO COUNCILWOMAN, MOSES AND MARKS, UM, I HAVE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE CITY DIRECTOR AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH DR.

STAFFORD AND LAMAR.

UM, AS SOON AS THE NUMBERS ARE PUT TOGETHER, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE CAN GET FUNDING FOR PORT ARTHUR RESIDENTS.

SO THAT'S ALREADY IN MOTION.

OKAY.

AND EVERYONE, AND AGAIN, MS. WILLIAMS, THANK YOU.

AND I THINK I EVEN MADE SOME REMARKS, I BELIEVE ON YOUR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA.

I THOUGHT IT WAS OUTSTANDING THAT YOU ALL WOULD MAKE THAT MOVE.

AND WHAT ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE HAVE SAID, IF Y'ALL WOULD WORK TOWARD THAT.

I THINK WE, WE ARE MOVING IN A MORE HARMONIOUS TYPE RELATIONSHIP WITH AND HR AND EVEN WITH THE CITIZENS OF PORT ARTHUR, BEING SURE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED THOSE WHO CAN QUALIFY FOR EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY.

ONE LAST QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

COUNSELOR MARKS THE FOLLOW-UP ON THE CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS, UH, UH, THOUGHT THE TRAINING PROGRAM, THE CDL TRAINING PROGRAM WAS ALREADY IN PLACE AT THE EDC WITH, WITH LAMAR THAT THAT WE'D BEEN SCHOLARSHIP.

AND THERE MAY BE ONE WITH LAMAR THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE, BUT WE'RE, UH, MR. DRAKE AND MY OFFICE IS ACTUALLY MEETING WITH MR. STAFFORD ED, UM, LAMAR AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN AGREEMENT FOR CITY FOR THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR.

OKAY.

IT'S ANOTHER ONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MS. WILLIAMSON.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

SO CAM, OKAY.

[III.B.3. A Presentation By Hani Tohme Regarding A Water And Sewer Rate Increase]

NEXT WE HAVE ON CHAMPION PRESENTATION BY MR. HANEY TOLD ME REGARDING THE WATER INSURE RATE INCREASE.

I GOT, I LIKE TO DEVIATE IF YOU WILL, FROM HOW WE HAVE THIS HERE.

AND WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS TO, UH, ASK FOR A MOTION TO HAVE THIS REMOVED FROM, UH, THE AGENDA, IF I CAN GET ASSISTANCE FROM THE COUNCIL HERE, BUT WE WOULD JUST TOTALLY REMOVE THIS, NOT EVEN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, BECAUSE FROM MARCH, BUT YOU GO OPPOSITE KIND OF TO ASSIST ME WITH MAKING THAT EMOTION, MAKING THAT MOTION RATHER THAN PLEASE.

AND I WILL GET THE QUESTION WE TALK ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO MOVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

A SECOND.

COUNSELOR CAN REMOVE THE SECOND AND WE MOVE THIS FROM, UH, THE AGENDA AT THIS TIME.

UH, WE READ IT FOR QUESTION.

YES.

OKAY.

GOOD.

COMPLICATED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO WHAT IS THE REASON WHY WE WERE MOVING THIS PARTICULAR PRECINCT? I WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THAT.

I BELIEVE COSMIN JONES.

YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A REMARKABLE, OKAY.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

NO, I, UH, I BELIEVE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME THAT THERE WOULD, SHOULD BE SOME OTHER THOUGHTS THAT

[01:30:01]

WE WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE TO A RATE INCREASE AT THE CITY AND THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR RIGHT NOW.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BECAUSE OF, UH, I KNOW STAFF YOU'RE WORKING, YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU POSSIBLY CAN.

HOWEVER, UH, BEING A POLITICAL IN THIS, IN THIS, UH, EQUATION AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE IN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, I DON'T THINK IT'S POOLING NEITHER.

IS IT WISE TO EVEN DISCUSS PUBLICLY INCREASING THE RATES? WHAT I DO HAVE IS SOME INFORMATION.

WE INCREASED THE RATES IN DECEMBER OF 2021.

I RECEIVED THAT THIS MORNING, I SAW THE EMAIL, UH, AND WE WE'VE BEEN DOING WHAT WE CHOOSE TO COLLECT THOSE FUNDS FROM AN INCREASE BACK IN NOVEMBER, EXCUSE ME.

AND, UH, IT BECAME EFFECTIVE IN DECEMBER OF 2021, IF FOR SOLID WASTE AND OTHER THINGS OF THIS NATURE.

AND I BELIEVE ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO BE PART OF THAT SAME POOL OF MONEY.

AND RIGHT NOW I THINK THAT WHAT WE SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON IS SOME TOP QUALITY CUSTOMER SERVICE.

IF WE CAN DELIVER TOP QUALITY CUSTOMER SERVICE FROM THE CITY OF PORT ORBIT, FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, ALL DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ACTUALLY AFFECTED BY THIS, THEN I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ACQUIESCENCE FROM THE CITIZENS.

NOT EVERYONE WILL AGREE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE A LARGER NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CITIZENS TO ACTUALLY ACQUIESCE TO THE REQUEST.

NOW, GIVEN TOP QUALITY CUSTOMER SERVICE IN EVERY DEPARTMENT, NOT JUST YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF PORT, SO THAT THE CITIZENS WOULD KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, THAT WHEN THEY CALL SOMEONE IS GOING TO ANSWER IN A COURTEOUS MANNER WHEN THEY COME THEIR NEEDS OR THEIR QUESTIONS WILL BE COME FRONT AND CENTER.

FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE ON STAFF TO ACTUALLY ANSWER THOSE INDIVIDUALS, WE HAVE CAT TO GIVE OURSELVES.

AND I SAY, I WOULD SAY WAS BECAUSE NOW IF NO ONE WANTS TO THINK OF IT THAT WAY, BUT WE ARE ALL ON THIS TEAM.

OKAY.

AND WE HAVE GOT TO PUT FORTH OUR BEST EFFORT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT FORWARDS, PUT FORTH OUR BEST EFFORT BY DISCUSSING THIS MATTER IN A WORKSHOP SETTING WITH YOUR STAFF DOCTOR AND WITH THE COUNCIL.

AND AT THAT TIME, WE CAN DETERMINE IF IT'S FEASIBLE, IF IT'S TIMELY, IF IT'S THE PROPER THING TO DO.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE MOTION THAT WE WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT HERE AT THIS PARTICULAR MEETING, NOT SAYING IN THE FUTURE, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T EVEN VISIT AGAIN, BUT THAT IS MY REASONING FOR, UH, THE MOTION AND HOPING THAT EACH OF YOU WOULD AGREE TO PASS THE MOTION AND WE WOULD DEAL WITH IT FOLLOWING A WORKSHOP, SETTING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY NEED THIS.

YEAH.

IT'S ONLY, UH, DO WE SPEAK HIS OWN PRESENTATION? WE'RE NOT ACTING UP ON IT.

HE'S THE ONLY GAME I PUT IN OKAY.

NO, WELL, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO VOTE WHETHER WE DO IT OR NOT.

WELL, ACTUALLY GO RIGHT THERE.

I'M GOING TO CALL RIGHT NOW.

COUNSEL, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PASS YOU UP.

OKAY.

A GUN READY TO GO.

READY, COUNSELOR, KILL US FIRST.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION ON, AND I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION.

RIGHT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE MOTION THEN TO MOVE FORWARD, AT LEAST WITH THE PRESENTATION AS SCHEDULED.

I JUST LIKE FOR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO HERE, WE CAN ALL VOTE AGAINST IT.

I MEAN THE, WHATEVER, THE INCREASE, IF THERE IS SUCH A THING, BUT PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO PRESENT IT.

EXACTLY WHAT, ALL THAT.

AND WE'LL CALL THEM UP COW COWS WHEN YOU'RE WRONG.

AND YOU CAN'T RENT A BOAT COUNCILMAN.

OH, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

COUNSEL LAW.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, AND IT'S JUST A PRESENTATION.

WE GET PRESENTATIONS ALL THE TIME.

AND UH, AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE DID HAVE A RATE INCREASE IN DECEMBER, WHICH I ALSO, UM, DIDN'T, I WASN'T A FAVOR FOR, AND I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR WITH THIS ONE UNTIL WE GET A LOT OF THE THINGS DONE CORRECTLY IN THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR.

BUT, UH, IT IS A PRESENTATION I DON'T FEEL IS THE REASON WHY WE NOT, WE SHOULD NOT HEAR DR.

ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR REASON.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU WHY WE WANT, UH, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY REMOVE THIS WITHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL INPUT? AND YOU GAVE YOU EXPLANATION.

SO IT'S JUST A PRESENTATION.

I THINK HE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, ENTITLED TO GIVE

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HIS PRESENTATION.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE COUNCIL HAS TO FIND A WORD OR IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME TYPE OF, UH, INCREASE, WHICH I THINK IT IS IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER COURSE? OKAY.

WELL, IF IT'S NOT, I THINK HE'S ENTITLED TO HIS PRESENTATION, MAN.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

READY? YES, SIR.

I UNDERSTAND CLEARLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MAYOR AND I APPRECIATE WHAT, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, IN LIGHT OF THE RAISE FOR, UH, WATER AND DEPARTMENTS.

UM, LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION BEFORE I, BEFORE WE GO FURTHER IN A WORKSHOP SETTING, UM, UH, CITY ATTORNEY IN A WORKSHOP SETTING.

IF WE ARE TO DO IT IN A WORKSHOP, UH, WILL WE BE ABLE TO HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN A WORKSHOP SETTING THE WAY THE PUBLIC, A PUBLIC DIFFERENT OPEN MEETINGS ACT IS? UM, ANYONE CAN COMMENT ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.

NOW THEY'VE OPENED UP THE, THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IS MORE OPEN WHERE PEOPLE CAN COMMENT ON THE WORKSHOP CENTER ON ANY PUBLIC MEETING THE COM THE PUBLIC CAN COMMENT ON ANYTHING NOW.

SO AFTER THIS DISCUSSION, THE PUBLIC INCOME HERE, BUT IN A WORKSHOP SETTING, IT WOULD BE POSTED AS A WORKSHOP.

AND THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A CITY, ANY ITEMS THAT WOULD GIVE THE CITIZENS MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TO BE IN THE CHAMBER WHEN WE HAVE IT DONE.

SO I CAN UNDERSTAND BOTH.

I CAN UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR AND FAVOR.

OH, WHAT IS SHE CLARIFIED THE MOTION ON A, OH, WAIT A MINUTE.

WAIT A MINUTE.

THE MOTION IS TO REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA AND NOT DISCUSS IT AT ALL.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING IF YOU IN FAVOR OF IT.

SO ALL IN FAVOR, I WOULD SAY YES.

MR. MS. MR. MAYOR, MAY I MAY, I MAY ADD AN ADDENDUM TO THE MOTION YOU'RE UP TO, I'D LIKE TO ADD AN ADDENDUM TO THE MOST.

OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE UP TO MADE THE MOTION.

CAPTAIN.

MARK.

YOU AGREED TO IT.

AND YOU SECOND, RIGHT.

OKAY.

WHO DID, WHO DO YOU ENCOUNTER? OH, CITY SECRETARY REMARKS MADE THE MOTION THAT YOU REQUEST AND COUNCIL MEMBER KEN LAW.

SECONDLY, I IMAGINE WHEN I ASKED YOU OUT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE A FULL BRO WHEN I WAS AT, JUST FOR, TO REMOVE.

AND ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS ADD TO THE MOTION THAT IT WOULD BE, THAT THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE REMOVED ON TODAY WITH THE ADDITION OF A WORKSHOP AT A LATER DATE FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FROM OUR CITIZENS.

DID YOU ALL ACCEPT THAT OR YOU DON'T.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO IF THIS IS THIS, SHOULD WE JUST VOTE ON IT? AND THEN WE MOVE ON ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

NAY.

OKAY.

SO FROM THE SOUND DAYS, HABIT YOU MAY PRESENT IN THE MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MAYOR.

CONGRATULATIONS.

BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO TODAY IS JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE RIGHT HISTORY WITH THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, WHERE WE ARE TODAY, A BUDGET UPDATE AND GO OVER SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE APPROVED, UH, THAT ARE ONGOING AND ARE ON THE CAPITAL PROGRAM.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT COVERS WATER PURIFICATION, WATER, DISTRIBUTION, WASTEWATER, CONVEYANCE, WASTEWATER TREATMENT.

WE ALSO HAVE A REGULATORY SERVICE DIVISION THAT HANDLES ALL THE TCEQ AND EPA ITEMS AND ISSUES AS WELL AS, UH, THE BILLING DEPARTMENT IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.

THE FIRST THING I WANT TO GO THROUGH IS THE SLIDE OVER WAR AND SEWER RATE HISTORY.

AND THIS IS A MINIMUM USAGE FEE AND TIER ONE, WHICH IS UNDER 10,000 GALLONS CONSUMPTION PER MONTH.

THIS SLIDE SAYS IT ALL.

IT REALLY HAS SO MUCH INFORMATION.

AND IT GIVES US AN IDEA ABOUT THE LACK OF STRUCTURE, THE LACK OF STABILITY AND THE LACK OF CONSISTENCY WHEN IT COMES TO THE UTILITIES RATES, WHETHER IT IS THE MINIMUM USAGE FEE PART OR THE PER THOUSAND GALLON PARTS.

IF YOU LOOK FOR EXAMPLE, BETWEEN 2011 AND 2014, THEN 2014 TO 2018 MINIMUM USAGE FEE FOR SOWER

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DISAPPEARED FROM THE RATE STRUCTURE, IT WAS $12 AND 55 CENTS RATE INCREASES ON THE WATER SIDE, WENT FROM $8 AND 80 CENTS TO 43 CENTS FOR A MINIMUM USAGE FEE.

AND THROUGHOUT THESE YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THAT PER THOUSAND GALLON RATE DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH, ESPECIALLY FROM 2008, 11 THROUGH 2018, THAT LACK OF STRUCTURE AND STABILITY COST THE GENERAL FUND, $54 MILLION, $54 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND THROUGHOUT THESE YEARS HAD TO BE TRANSFERRED TO AN ENTERPRISE FUND.

THAT SHOULD BE AN INDEPENDENT FUND THAT ITS REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES ARE EQUAL AT THE END OF THE YEAR, IN ORDER TO BALANCE THAT FUND IN 2018.

WHEN I DID THIS STUDY AT FIRST, AND I REALIZED WHAT'S GOING ON, WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN ORDER FOR THAT FUND TO BECOME INDEPENDENT.

AND FOR ORDER IN ORDER FOR THAT FUND TO STOP, DEPENDING ON THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY ITS BILLS, BECAUSE THAT MONEY WAS PURELY PAYING BILLS, NOT DOING AS MANY CAPITAL PROJECTS AS WE NEED TO DO.

IF WE LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, IT EXPLAINS THAT FIRST SLIDE IN A CHART FORM, YOU CAN SEE THE UPS AND THE DOWNS, THE NO STABILITY, NO STRUCTURE THAT COST THE GENERAL FUND, $54 MILLION.

THAT IN 2019, THE CITY COUNCIL BASICALLY HAD TO SAY, IT'S FORGIVEN BECAUSE I OWE YOU NOTES OVER THE NINE YEARS WITH LACK OF RATE INCREASES AND LACK OF STABILITY COULD NOT BE PAID BY THE WATER FUND UNLESS THEY COME IN AND DO A HUNDRED PERCENT RATE INCREASE AND GENERATE ENOUGH FUNDS TO DO THAT, WHICH IS SOMETHING NO ONE WANTS TO DO.

UH, AT ANY TIME, IF WE LOOK AT SOME RATE ANALYSIS AND COMPARE AGAIN, THE, UH, USAGES FOR, UH, THE 10,000 GALLONS OR LESS, WHICH COVERS THE MAJORITY OF OUR CITIZENS, IF WE COMPARE OURSELVES RIGHT NOW TO NEIGHBORING CITIES AND WHAT OUR MINIMUM USAGE FEE IS FOR THE WATER, WE'RE $7, 73 CENTS, MINIMUM USAGE FEE A MONTH FOR A WASTEWATER OR $8 AND 40 CENTS.

OUR TOTAL MINIMUM USAGE FEE TODAY IS $16 AND 13 CENTS.

THE LOWEST MINIMUM USAGE FEE IN ALL OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES.

IF WE COMPARE THAT COST OF 6,000 GALLONS OF WATER AND WASTEWATER A MONTH TO NEIGHBORING CITIES, PORT ARTHUR IS SITTING RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE, WE HAD AROUND $68 VERSUS WHEN HE IS IN THE $89 AND THE CHEAPEST SPORT, NATURE'S AT $45.

ONE THING WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE NUMBERS AND WHY WE'RE SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OR NOT IS THE VAST SIZE OF THE CITY.

WE ARE NOT JUST HERE LOCALLY, WHERE CITY HALL AND DOWNTOWN IS.

WE GO, AS FAR AS SABINE PASS, WE GO, AS FAR AS PORT ACRES, WE GO DOWN 3 47.

SO OUR SIZE AS A CITY AND A MILES AND MILES OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE SUPERSEDES AND OVERCOMES.

MOST OF THESE CITIES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND WE ARE STILL COMPARED TO THEM IN THE MIDDLE COMPARED TO OUR COSTS FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.

IF WE DO THAT SAME COMPARISON TO CITIES THAT ARE OUR SIZE IN THE 50 TO 70,000 POPULATION RANGE, SAME THING.

WE ARE ON THE BOTTOM.

WE ARE THE CHEAPEST MINIMUM USAGE FEE AMONGST ALL THESE CITIES.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL $6,000 A GALLON COST, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE.

AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TOO EXPENSIVE, WE'RE NOT TOO CHEAP.

WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE.

THE NEXT THING I WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS THE BUDGET UPDATES REVENUE VERSUS EXPENDITURE.

THE FIRST SLIDE IS THE SHANIA REVENUE.

ONE OF OUR, OUR LARGEST CUSTOMER IS YET, AND YOU CAN SEE FROM 2018 THROUGH THIS YEAR, HOW THE REVENUE FROM SHANIA FLUCTUATED, THE BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR 18 WAS 3.4 MILLION.

IT CAME IN AT 3.9, AND THAT WAS A MAJOR ISSUE IN THE 2018 BUDGETS.

ORIGINALLY THAT NUMBER WAS BUDGETED AT $6 MILLION REVENUE.

ASSUMING

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SHANIA IS GOING TO GO TO FULL BLOWN OPERATION THAT YEAR, WHICH THEY DIDN'T.

SO THEY HAD ACTUAL REVENUE CAME IN AT 3.9, $2 MILLION SHORT.

IF YOU PROJECT THAT TO THE 2022, WE BUDGETED 5.2 MILLION.

WE'RE PROJECTING THE ACTUAL REVENUE TO BE IN THE 6.3 MILLION.

AND THAT'S BASED ON MONEY RECEIVED AS OF END OF APRIL, AS WELL AS DISCUSSIONS WITH SHANIA LEARNING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE AT THE LEVEL OF OPERATION THEY ARE AT TODAY THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT THERE IS A $1.2 MILLION INCREASE IN THAT REVENUE PROJECTED FOR SHENIR.

AND WE WILL DISCUSS THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.

IF WE LOOK AT THE REVENUE FOR OTHER, UH, ACCOUNTS FROM 18 THROUGH 22, IN 2018, WE BUDGETED REVENUE OF 24 MILLION.

THE ACTUAL REVENUE CAME IN AT 27.5 MILLION.

THAT'S WHEN WE CAME IN ANALYZE THE DEPARTMENT'S REVENUE EXPENDITURES OPERATION DID A RATE INCREASE.

AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN NINE YEARS, THE WATER DEPARTMENT DID NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE GENERAL FUND AND SAY, LET ME BORROW SOME MORE MONEY TO FINISH PAYING THE BILLS FOR THIS YEAR.

IN 2019, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER RATE INCREASE.

IT WASN'T STRUCTURED LIKE WELDON DISRUPTER, THEIR RATE INCREASES LAST YEAR BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST RATE INCREASE.

FIRST MINIMUM USAGE FEE.

IN NINE YEARS, WE WANTED TO SEE ITS IMPACT BEFORE WE DECIDE, WHERE DO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD? WHERE SHOULD WE GO? HOW MUCH MONEY WE NEED TO DO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WE NEED TO DO, BUT THAT RATE INCREASE DIDN'T HAPPEN.

NOW THE ACCOUNT FELL BACK SHORT AND WE WERE 555,000, ROUGHLY IN THE NEGATIVE 2020, ANOTHER RATE INCREASE SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

AND AGAIN, THE ACCOUNT FELL SHORT AND NOW MONEY HAD TO BE BORROWED FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

2021 WELDON CAME IN STRUCTURED RATE INCREASES BASED ON OPERATIONAL COSTS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AS WELL AS CAPITAL PROGRAMS. THE COUNCIL APPROVED THAT RATE INCREASE AND THE BUDGET WAS BALANCED AGAIN WITH AN ACCESS FOR REVENUE OVER THE EXPENDITURES THIS YEAR AS PER WELDON'S, UH, PROJECTIONS, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A RATE INCREASE IN JANUARY, WHICH DID NOT TAKE PLACE, BUT WE'RE STILL IN THE POSITIVE PROJECTIONS WE ARE BECAUSE SHANIA GENERATED $1.2 MILLION IN REVENUE, ADDITIONAL TO WHAT WE BUDGETED.

AND BECAUSE WE DELETED ONE OF THE TANK REHABILITATION PROJECTS, CONSTRUCTION, WE ARE ONLY DOING THE, UH, ENGINEERING PART OF IT THIS YEAR, WHICH SAVED US ABOUT $800,000.

IF THOSE TWO ITEMS DID NOT COME IN THE FUND THIS YEAR WOULD NOT BE BALANCED AS PER THESE PROJECTIONS WITHOUT A RATE INCREASE.

AND WE'RE STILL BEGINNING OF SUMMER, WHO KNOWS WHAT CAN HAPPEN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, BUT IF THINGS STAY AS STEADY AS THEY ARE, WE SHOULD BE OKAY THIS YEAR.

IF WE LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURES, UH, FROM 18 THROUGH NOW IN 2018, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN NINE YEARS, THE EXPENDITURES, UH, MET THE BUDGETED, THE NUMBERS BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF OPERATIONAL CHANGES AND, UH, UH, CUTS ON THE EXPENDITURES AT THE TIME TO MAKE THINGS WORK.

LIKE WE WANTED IT TO WORK IN 2019, THE EXPENDITURES AGAIN WERE OVER THE BUDGETED.

SIMILARLY IN 2020, THEN THIS YEAR WE HAVE BUDGET TO SPEND $30.5 MILLION, AND WE'RE EXPECTING TO SPEND 30.2 MILLION.

SO WE'RE HOPING EVERYTHING STAY LIKE IT IS SO WE CAN HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET REGARDLESS OF THE INCREASE IN FUEL COSTS, MATERIAL COSTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT, UH, INFLATION HAS AFFECTED, UH, WORLDWIDE.

IT'S HIGHLY EFFECTING US AT THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENTS.

SO IF WE PUT THE REVENUE VERSUS EXPENDITURES AND LOOK AT WHAT WE GENERATED, VERSUS WHAT WE SPENT, YOU CAN SEE THAT PATTERN IS THERE.

WHEN YOU HAVE RATE INCREASES TO KEEP UP WITH YOUR EXPENDITURES AND YOUR CAPITAL PROGRAMS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THE PLUS WHEN YOU DON'T, YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THE NEGATIVE THIS YEAR.

WE'RE TRYING VERY,

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VERY HARD TO STAY IN THE PLUS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THAT RATE INCREASE THAT TOOK PLACE IN JANUARY.

AND WE'RE DOING THAT THROUGH CUTTING PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE AND GOT LUCKY ON THE SHINIER REVENUE BEING 1.2 MILLION OVER EXPECTED AND BUDGET.

UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE NOTES OF THESE REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON REVENUES UP TO APRIL 20, 22 AND ACTUAL 2021 REVENUE.

SO ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.

ANYTHING CAN CHANGE.

AN EXPENDITURE PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON EXPENDITURES UP TO APRIL, 2022 PROJECTIONS OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES CAN CHANGE BASED ON AN UNPRECEDENTED EVENTS, SUCH AS HURRICANES, HOT SUMMERS, MAJOR EQUIPMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURES WITH ALREADY EXPERIENCING A LARGE NUMBER OF WATERLINE BREAKS 20 TO 30 OF THEM A DAY.

SO THAT IS GOING TO INCREASE OUR OPERATIONAL COSTS, ESPECIALLY ON OVERTIME.

NEXT I'D LIKE TO BRIEF YOU ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ONGOING AND, UH, WHICH ONES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ON THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SIDE.

WE HAVE A $2.4 MILLION BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR EXTENDING A WATER LINE TO THE LANDFILL.

THIS PROJECT WAS BASICALLY CREATED DUE TO THE SEMPRA'S PROJECT.

DESIGN IS COMPLETE.

PERMITS HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED FROM THE RAILROAD FROM THE CORE, IT'S THE READY TO GO, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET IT GO TILL WE SEE WHAT SEMPRA IS ACTUALLY GOING TO DO.

WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM RECENTLY.

IT WAS VERY POSITIVE.

THINGS SEEMS TO BE MOVING FORWARD, BUT WE NEED THE SIGNATURE ON THE DOTTED LINE.

BEFORE WE SPEND THIS KIND OF MONEY ON THIS PROJECT ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE BIONET PARK LIFT STATION WILL BE COMPLETED.

THIS JULY.

IT'S ALMOST DONE THE LAKESIDE GRAVITY SEWER LINE HAS BEEN COMPLETED IN DESIGN AND WILL BE, UH, ADVERTISE FOR A BID.

THIS JULY AS VISTA FORCE MAIN IS WAITING ON PERMITS FROM THE RAILROAD DESIGN IS COMPLETE HIGHWAY 365 FORCE MAIN PHASE ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND WE HAVE DIRECTION WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITH IT.

PHASE TWO, THE ENGINEERING PART IS ON THIS AGENDA TODAY TO BE AWARDED THE 46TH STREET LIFT STATION FORCE MAIN HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

SABINE PASS BY BURSTING CONTRACT.

ONE HAS BEEN AWARDED IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

WE'LL BE FINISHED.

THIS AUGUST SERBIAN PASSED BY BURSTING CONTRACT TO WHERE WE'LL BE AWARDED, UH, THIS COMING COUNCIL MEETING.

WE ALREADY GOT BEDS AND WE HAVE A LOWEST BIDDER WITHIN THE BUDGETED AMOUNT.

AND THE CITYWIDE BY BURSTING CONTRACT DESIGN HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

WE'RE PLANNING ON BIDDING THAT JOB IN, UH, JULY, ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS WERE PERFORMED ENGINEERING WISE BY GOLDEN TRIANGLE CONSULTING, ENGINEERS AND CITY STAFF.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL SO FAR.

AND STAFF HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GOOD ENGINEERING GROUP RIGHT NOW ON STAFF THAT, UH, IS HELPING SAVE THE CITY A LOT OF MONEY BY DOING IN-HOUSE DESIGN.

THE MAIN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN DESIGN HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

PROJECT HAS BID AWARD HAS BEEN GIVEN CONSTRUCTION STARTED, UH, THIS MONTH TALKING ABOUT ENGINEERING STAFF.

THE STAFF WAS ABLE TO SAVE ABOUT $600,000 ON THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACT FOR THIS JOB BECAUSE THEY GONNA HANDLE SOME OF THESE ASSIGNMENTS INTERNALLY WITHOUT HAVING TO USE THE ENGINEERING FOR THEM TO DO SO.

OBJECTIVES OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OF COURSE, IS TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, PROVIDE UNINTERRUPTED SERVICES AND IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.

THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT DEALS WITH TWO OF THE MAIN COMPONENTS FOR EXISTENCE WATER THAT WE CAN NOT LIVE WITHOUT AND WASTEWATER THAT IS NOT HANDLED PROPERLY.

IT CAN CAUSE SERIOUS ILLNESSES AND DISEASES.

WE ARE REGULATED BY THE TCEQ AND THE EPA.

WE HAVE TO MEET ALL RULES AND REGULATIONS.

IF WE DON'T, WE WILL GET FINED.

WE WILL HAVE TO PAY THESE FINES OR HAVE TO DO PROJECTS TO OVERCOME THEM.

BUT WE ARE VERY VULNERABLE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND MUST BE DONE TO AVOID THESE FINES.

AND OF COURSE WE HAVE IRRITATED AND REPLACED AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE SANITARY LIFT STATIONS, ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS PIPING IN THE GROUND, SANITARY SEWER TREATMENT PLANTS.

UH,

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WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR.

NEXT IS THE APPROVED CAPITAL PROGRAM THAT THE COUNCIL HAVE, UH, ACCEPTED THEM VOTED ON AS PART OF THIS EXISTING BUDGET HERE.

AND IT'S A FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM.

YEAH.

SO IF YOU SEE IN 2022, WE ONLY HAD TWO PROJECTS, UH, THE SABINE PASS COLLECTION SYSTEM, WHICH IS GOING TO BE AWARDED THIS COMING, UH, COUNCIL MEETING AND THE ELEVATOR STORAGE TANK REHAB, WHICH WE'RE NOT GONNA DO, BUT THE ENGINEERING THIS YEAR TO HELP BALANCE A FUND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THE RATE INCREASE NEXT YEAR, THOUGH, THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THIS PROGRAM.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES TO ME, I WOULD SAY IS THESE LIFT STATIONS, BECAUSE WE HAVE LIFT STATIONS THAT IF YOU GO VISIT, YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO WALK INTO, THEY NEED SOME SERIOUS REHABILITATION.

WE HAVE 12 OF THEM RIGHT NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THE PIONEER LIFT STATION WILL BE COMPLETED SOON, BUT WE HAVE MANY MORE THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW THROUGH WELL AND REPAIR AND REHABILITATE, UH, SABINE PASS COLLECTION SYSTEM.

WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE WE ARE UNDER AN AGREED ORDER WITH THE TCEQ TO REPLACE THAT MUCH PIPE EVERY YEAR IN SERBIAN PASS THE FRESH WATER RESERVOIR.

THAT'S A CANAL THAT THAT'S A RESERVOIR AT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT CELL HAD BUILT UP IN THAT WE NEED TO REMOVE BECAUSE IT'S REDUCING ITS CAPACITY AND OUR ABILITY TO STORE THAT WATER, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN SABINE PASS.

WE ARE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

UH, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE AN ITEM ON THIS AGENDA FOR A CLARIFIER THAT WE'RE USING OUR MONEY TO DO, UH, WHICH WE WERE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THIS ITEM IN THIS, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET YEAR, UH, COLLECTION SYSTEM.

WE HAD, THESE ARE SANITARY SEWER LINES THAT ARE CITY-WIDE THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

AND WE HAVE $3 MILLION, UH, THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

AND OF COURSE, WE GOT TO DO AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, UH, EVERY YEAR ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU WILL SEE THAT THESE PROJECTS WHERE I LOCATED THE FUNDS FROM BONDS, $14 MILLION OF IT, AND 1.5 MILLION WAS CASH.

THE REST WAS TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

AND THE NOTE YOU SEE INDUSTRY FUNDING FOR SABINE PASS.

WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE A DEAL AT THE TIME WITH SEMPRA, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BRING THEIR WASTEWATER TO OUR PLANTS.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, UH, VENTURE.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS WHAT, WHAT THEN DID, UH, IN 2021, WHEN THEY REVIEWED THE SERIES, A RATE STRUCTURE AND PROJECTS AND OPERATIONAL COSTS AND PROPOSED, UH, A 9.8 INCREASE IN 2021, WHICH COUNCIL APPROVED AT 10.1 RATE INCREASE FOR THIS YEAR 10 FOR NEXT YEAR, 3.6, 4 24 AND 3.6, 4 25 TO COVER THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AS WELL AS, UH, OPERATIONAL COSTS.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS PROJECTED BUDGET FOR 20, UH, 23.

UH, HOWEVER, BASED ON OUR PROJECTIONS FOR OPERATIONAL COSTS, EVEN WITHOUT INCLUDING THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO GET FUNDED, THE REVENUE AND THE EXPENDITURE ARE GONNA NOT BE EQUAL, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE EXPENDITURE THAN REVENUE TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE WITHOUT THE RATE INCREASES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL THEN HAVE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, AND ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, AND THAT'S A PERSONAL TO ME A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I AM AN EMPLOYEE PERSON AND IT HURTS TO HEAR WHEN PEOPLE SAY THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR UTILITIES, DEPARTMENT OR BILLING DIVISION ARE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB, UH, AND NOT RESPONDING PROPERLY TO CUSTOMER'S CONCERNS.

UH, THEY ARE FAILING AT PROVIDING SUPERIOR CUSTOMER SERVICE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE VERY, VERY HARDWORKING EMPLOYEES.

UH, THE ENVIRONMENT THEY WORK IN, WHETHER IT IS WATER OR WASTEWATER IS A VERY HARSH ENVIRONMENT.

THE EMPLOYEES

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WHO ARE DOWNSTAIRS AT THE FIRST FLOOR, TAKING THOUSANDS OF CALLS EVERY DAY ARE EXPOSED TO EXTREME, EXTREME, HARD, UNACCEPTABLE LANGUAGE.

MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES THEY TAKE IT.

THEY ACCEPTED, THEY ARE VERY PROFESSIONAL WITH IT, AND THEY ALWAYS, ALWAYS TRY TO DO THEIR BEST, BUT THEY'RE ALSO HUMAN.

THEY ARE GOING TO GET THAT PHONE CALL THAT GOES OVER THE EDGE, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THEIR COOL AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT FROM THE THOUSANDS OF CALLS THEY GET, IF THAT HAPPENS ONCE OR TWICE, THAT EMPLOYEE IS STILL GETTING A REPRIMAND, THAT EMPLOYEE IS STILL GETTING ADDRESSED AND WE'RE NOT LETTING THINGS SLIDE.

IF AN EMPLOYEE IN THE FIELD IS SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY DON'T NEED TO BE DURING THE DAY, THEY ARE GOING TO GET REPRIMANDED AS PER CITY POLICY, BUT ARE THEY DOING A GOOD JOB? THEY'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB.

ARE THEY KEEPING UP THE CITY RUNNING? THEY DEFINITELY ARE.

AND THE, THE, THE ISSUES WE ARE FACING TODAY AS A DEPARTMENT ARE ISSUES THAT WERE INHERITED, ARE ISSUES THAT ARE RELATED TO EQUIPMENT FAILURES, NOT EMPLOYEES, LACK OF ABILITY TO DO THE JOB.

THE SYSTEM THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE FOR THE AUTOMATIC CREED IS A FAILED SYSTEM.

AND ADD TO THAT.

IT WAS INSTALLED WRONG.

AND IMPROPERLY 11,000 OUT OF THE 22,000 UNITS HAVE ALREADY BEEN REPLACED BY CITY STAFF.

THE CONTRACTING OF THAT AMOUNT OF WORK WOULD HAVE COST THE CITY AROUND QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS.

THEY DID IT.

THEY'RE STILL DOING IT EVERY DAY.

IT COMES IN.

AND THE ONLY REASON THEY'RE BEHIND IS BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT IS NOT AVAILABLE DUE TO THE ISSUES WITH THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND THAT EVERY ITEM IS FACING.

SO, AND IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE GETTING A CALL FROM A CITIZEN THAT IS VERY UPSET BECAUSE THEIR WATER BILL SPIKED UP, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO REPLACE THIS EQUIPMENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO STRIVE FOR PERFECTION, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THERE WITHOUT THE APPROPRIATE FUNDING.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

IT THAT'S THE MISTAKE THAT WAS DONE IN THE PAST, WHERE WE CHOSE TO LEAVE IT ALONE, NOT FUNDED, JUST LET THEM BORROW MONEY FROM THIS POT.

AND IT CAUSED SERIOUS PROBLEMS. IF SINCE 2011, WHAT WE ARE DOING SINCE 2018 WAS TAKING PLACE, WE WILL HAVE A LOT LESS WATER LEAKS, A LOT LESS SANITARY, SEWER PROBLEMS, A LOT LESS CUSTOMER CALLS AND A LOT LESS EQUIPMENT FAILURES, BUT IT'S, UNFORTUNATELY IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

AND I HOPE WE CAN KEEP THE PATH THAT WE ARE ON.

AND I HOPE WE CAN KEEP THAT TRACTION THAT WE STARTED SO WE CAN GET THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE IN WATER AND WASTEWATER TO THE LEVEL THE CITIZENS DESERVE IT TO BE AT.

THEY DESERVE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT.

AND IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

GREAT.

YES, IT IS.

UM, DR.

HANEY, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I WAS PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS ON COUNCIL BACK IN 20 16, 20 17.

WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT, UM, THEY HAD NOT BEEN A SEWER THAT HAD NOT, WE, THE CITIZENS HAD, I BEEN PAYING SEWER FOR OVER THREE TO FIVE YEARS.

AND SO THAT THREW US INTO THAT DEFICIT WITH THE $54 MILLION THAT WE HAD, AND DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF.

AND THEN I REMEMBER US HAVING A WORKSHOP WITH THIS WELDING, UM, COMPANY WHO TOLD US HOW WE COULD GET THERE, UM, TO GET OUR REVENUES UP.

AND WE WOULDN'T BE AT THE BOTTOM.

AND THAT'S WHEN THEY ESTABLISHED, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS IS WHERE THIS CHART, UM, HAS COME FROM AND WHAT WE NEEDED TO PUT INTO PLACE.

SO YOU'RE ONLY REMINDING US OF WHERE WE SHOULD BE, UM, BASED UPON WHAT, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED AND ENDURED FROM 2015 TO 2022.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND, AND REMEMBER, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PASS ON TO OUR CITIZENS, A COST INCREASE ON, I KNOW THEY'RE EXPERIENCE, AND I KNOW YOU, YOU DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING IT TO US, BUT I KNOW THAT PRIOR TO COUNCILMAN JONES AND COUNCILMAN KENALOG, GETTING ON COUNCIL, WE, I HAD ALREADY EXPERIENCED WITH A PA, UH, COUNCIL, UM, TWO YEARS PRIOR, WHAT

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THE DEFICIT WAS THAT $54 MILLION.

SO THEN COME THE COUNCIL WITH COUNCILMAN KINLAW AND COUNCILMAN JONES.

AND THEN THIS, THE NEW COUNCIL THAT WAS ELECTED LAST YEAR IN 20 20, 20 21.

SO THAT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US THROUGH THE HISTORY, BECAUSE IT IS THE FACT THAT WE WERE BELOW.

UM, AND THEN A RATE WAS ESTABLISHED FOR ALL OF, UH, UH, UH, TO GO UP INCREASINGLY.

AND SOME OF THOSE, WE FAILED THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO PASS THAT COST ON TO CITIZENS AND CITIZENS DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY JUST KNOW THAT MY WATER BILL IS HIGH WHEN MINE IS ABOUT $89 A MONTH.

AND THERE'S TWO PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE AND I DON'T LIKE PAYING IT, BUT IF IT'S GOING TO, IT'S NOT ABOUT ME.

SO IF IT'S ABOUT GETTING US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE ON A GLOBAL LEVEL OR, UM, A LEVEL TO BE NOT BEING A DEFICIT, WE CAN'T KEEP ASKING FOR THE TOP OF THE LINE, UM, SERVICES.

AND WE'RE AT A BOTTOM OF THE LINE, UM, WHEN WE WE'RE PAYING.

SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE, UH, GAMBIT OF IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF WHERE WE WERE.

I THINK Y'ALL HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.

I THINK WE STILL HAVE SOME ISSUES, AS YOU'VE SAID WITH THE, WITH, UM, CUSTOMER SERVICE, SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, RESPONDING BACK TO PEOPLE AND GOING BACK AND FORTH.

IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST NOT GOOD.

UM, AND WE ARE HANDLING THAT.

WE JUST DID A TRAINING.

RECENTLY.

WE ARE INSTALLING A SYSTEM WHERE EVERYTHING GETS RECORDED SO WE CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF BACK-AND-FORTH IS TAKING PLACE.

BUT WE FIND ANY PUT IN 2018, THAT BUDGET ON TRACK.

AND WE MISS DO RATE INCREASES SENSE, RIGHT? AND IT'S NEVER EASY TO DO A RATE INCREASE.

IT'S A DOUBLE EDGE SWORD.

I AGREE, 100%.

AND YOU INCREASE THE COSTS ON THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD, FIVE TO $6 A MONTH, AND THEN YOU DON'T DO IT AND YOU CAN GO BUY A VACTOR TRUCK.

THAT'S SO HIGHLY NEEDED EVERY TIME SOMEBODY SEWERS BACKING UP.

SO IT'S JUST, IT'S A TOUGH DECISION.

IT'S A TOUGH DECISION ON YOU.

ALL I HAVE, WELL, WE HAD TO MAKE THAT DECISION BACK WHEN WE HAD TO, UM, WE CAME FROM THE BOTTOM OUT OF ALL THE CITIES AROUND US.

WE WERE AT THE BOTTOM.

SO WE ESTABLISHED THAT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO UP AND HAVE TO GO UP ON WATER.

AND IT FELL ON THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE OF THE, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE COUNCIL FROM 2011, ALL THE WAY UP FOR FIVE YEARS, NOT CHARGING SEWER RATES.

NOBODY DOES THAT.

NOBODY YOU CAN'T HARDLY RECOVER FROM THAT EIGHT YEARS.

SO EIGHT YEARS WE DEALT, DEALT WITH NO SURCHARGES.

SO NOW THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN, IT'S BEEN THROWN IN OUR LAP TO LITERALLY MAKE A DECISION THAT WAS NOT MADE.

UH BEFORE AND TO GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE, WHICH IS VERY CLEAR.

I HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS IT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO.

I JUST THINK WHEN WE HAD TO MAKE THE FIRST RATE INCREASE, WE HAD TO DO IT.

AND THAT WAS BACK IN 2018, UH, WHEN WE HAD TO MAKE THAT BIG JUMP.

AND THAT WAS A PLAN ESTABLISHED TO GRADUALLY INCREASE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR MY MIND, WASN'T FOGGY.

I'VE SEEN A LOT OF FLUID AND THINGS MOVE IN THE CITY, BUT JUST WANTING TO HAVE A RECOLLECTION OF THAT PLAN, THAT WILLARD PROPOSED TO US ON ZOOM DURING COVID, IF THAT WAS THE PLAN THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT.

YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THE WELDON'S PROJECTIONS OF 10, 10, THEN GO BACK DOWN.

IS IT BECAUSE WE MISS TWO RATE INCREASES IN 19 AND 20, OTHERWISE THAT RATE INCREASE OR SHOULD STAY ON THE FIVE TO 7%, BUT TRYING TO CATCH UP IS WHY THEY BROUGHT IT UP.

AND THIS RATE INCREASE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN JANUARY.

SO WE CAN GO BOTTLE, UH, BOND MONEY FOR THIS COMING YEAR.

AND BECAUSE IN DECEMBER WE DID THE RATE INCREASE FOR THE TRASH THAT SOME OF Y'ALL WERE OPPOSED TO, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE HELPED TREMENDOUSLY ON BALANCING THIS FUND THIS YEAR.

AND AT THIS POINT, THAT LOOKS VERY GOOD.

SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THE END OF THE YEAR IS.

BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENED, WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANOTHER RATE INCREASE ON WATER AND WASTEWATER.

SO WE SPOKE TO THE CITY MANAGER AND WE MADE THE DECISION TO, YOU KNOW, SHANIA IS LOOKING GOOD.

WE CAN CUT THIS PROJECT.

WE CAN STILL BALANCE THIS BUDGET.

SO LET'S HOLD OFF ON.

RIGHT.

AND WE DID HOLD OFF TOO, BECAUSE OF COVID WE DIDN'T WANT TO PASS A RATE, INCREASE ONTO OUR CITIZENS DURING COVID THAT PLAYED A BIG ROLE IN IT AS WELL.

OKAY.

OH, COUNCILMAN JONES.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM DR.

HANEY.

YES, SIR.

BEFORE I TALK ABOUT MONEY RATE INCREASES HERE, UH, THIS IS A HARD DECISION.

YOU KNOW WHAT I JUST SAID, BUT ANYTHING ELSE I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION.

YOU HELP WITH CITY, YOU LOVE POLICY AND YOU PEOPLE, I COULD SEE

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EMOTION, YOU GET IT.

IT MAKES YOU VERY EMOTIONAL.

YOU TALK TO ME, TRY TO MAKE THIS DECISION.

IT'S NOT EASY, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE AND COMPASSION.

UH, AND YOU HAVE A GREAT, GREAT, GREAT STEP.

WHAT IS TALKING ABOUT? BUT UH, PEOPLE BEING RUDE, I'M ALMOST DONE.

IT WAS TWICE A WEEK TALKING AROUND THE ROAD, CALL THE BAD PROBLEMS FOR CITIZENS.

AND AT ONE TIME THEY WOULD GIVE A CITIZEN A HARD TIME IN MY PRESENCE, ALL PROFESSIONAL, COURTEOUS, AND CONCERN.

WE HAVE A GREAT STEP.

I CALL THEM THE DREAM TEAM.

YOU HAVE A DREAM TEAM DOWN THERE.

AND I WAS THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN THE CUSTOMER CALL, YOU KNOW, MY CUSTOMER CONSTITUENTS AND THERE WAS REASON 10, SHE IS A HALE WITH RWANDA AFTER, HEY, YOU COULD RAISE HERE.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET A COMPLAINT.

FIX, YOU KNOW, COPPIN JONES.

I'LL CALL THEM AND SAY YOU BETTER BECAUSE I PICKED THE BUTTON ON YA.

YOU, I HAD MY PHONE ON.

SO, UH, COUNCILMAN, THEY ARE PROCESSING 5,800 WORK ORDERS A MONTH IN THE FIELD.

AND IN THE OFFICE, I KNOW YOU ARE DOING THAT.

THAT'S A HUMONGOUS AMOUNT OF WORK ORDERS.

SO I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF TIME AND YOU HAVE A GREAT TEAM, THE TEAM, BUT I WANTED TO CALL FOR A WORKSHOP WHERE THE PUBLIC COULD BE HAVE PARTICIPATION, YOU KNOW, DOLLAR PRICE, YOU BUY A WORKSHOP, BUT LET'S DO THAT DEAL WORKSHOP.

THE PEOPLE COME IN AND IT WAS THEIR OPINION.

AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

THEN IT'S PUTTING IT ON THE COUNCIL BACK THAT THE PBB WE INVOLVE ALSO WHEN YOU AGREE.

YEAH, MY JOB COUNSELING IS TO BRING YOU THIS INFORMATION, TELL YOU WHERE WE WERE, WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE WITH OR WITHOUT THE RATE INCREASE.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE YOUR DECISION.

WHAT, WHAT, HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

UH, WE WANT TO CONTINUE ON THIS TRACK.

WE WANT TO SLOW IT DOWN.

THEY WANT TO SPEED IT UP.

IT'S A DECISION YOU ALL HAVE TO MAKE.

OH, I AGREE WITH THE WORKSHOP WITH THE PUPPER, BUT DOWN REALLY DON'T WANT WHAT I'M HEARING OR WE INCREASED NOW, BUT MAYBE TO GET MORE INFORMED TO A WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SOFTEN THE BLOW A LITTLE BIT, BUT GO THAT ROUTE.

THANK YOU, DR.

HAMMER OR COVERING FRANK.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE, UH, PRESENTATION.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND, UM, I DO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY THE MAYOR WAS, UH, WANTING US TO HOLD OFF ON IT.

BUT I DO AGREE THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE, UM, A WORKSHOP WHEN WE BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT RATE INCREASES, WHETHER THEY BE FOR WATER, SEWER OR PUBLIC SERVICES BECOMES A POLITICAL FOOTBALL.

AND, UM, AND, UH, IT BECOMES ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, UH, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU CANNOT MAKE THOSE DECISIONS BASED ON, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU STAND, UH, IN TIMES OF EASE.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND THERE ARE SO MANY VARIABLES THAT ARE AT WORK HERE.

THE DEFICIT THAT WAS CREATED AT $54 MILLION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, EVERY ONE OF US SITTING HERE TODAY KNOWS THAT WHAT YOU PAID FOR A LOAF OF BREAD LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, UH, HAS GONE UP AND COST OF MILK HAS GONE UP.

AND THEN WE UNDERSTAND AS WELL THAT WE LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE UNEMPLOYMENT IS, UM, IS THE HIGHEST IN THE AREA.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF VARIABLES AT THIS PLACE AND AT THIS TIME, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT THE DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THEM AS A COUNCIL, UH, AS AN ADMINISTRATION AND AS INDIVIDUALS, I APPLAUD AGAIN AS COUNCILMAN, UH, JOAN SAYS ALL OF THE WORKERS OF OUR CITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE NEED OUR SEWERS, YOU KNOW, WHEN SEWAGE IS BACKING UP IN YOUR HOUSE AND GOING IN YOUR, IN YOUR BATHTUB, WHICH I'VE HAD INDIVIDUALS IN OUR CITY TALK ABOUT, UH, BECAUSE OF HIGH WATER AND RAIN AND ALL OF THAT, YOU WANT SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO COME AND HELP WITH THAT.

UM, AND SO, UH, OUR CITIZENS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR EMPLOYEES ARE TO BE APPLAUDED, BUT WE CAN'T LET IT JUST CONTINUE TO GO DOWN.

WE HAVE TO STOP THE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO STOP THE BLEEDING AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

AND I DON'T LIKE BEING KNOWN AS THE COUNCIL THAT RAISES THE RATES.

I DON'T LIKE BEING KNOWN AS A COUNCIL THAT, YOU KNOW, IS RAISING THE TAXES OR RAISING THE RATES OR RAISING THE SERVICE COSTS.

BUT AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY HAS TO BITE THE BULLET AND WE HAVE TO PREPARE OUR MINDS AND OUR HEARTS AND OUR CITIZENS FOR THAT IN THE BEST WAY IN WHICH WE CAN.

COUNCILMAN, I LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

I LOOK AT YOU AS THE COUNCILMAN THAT DIDN'T RAISE THE RATES, BUT I LOOK AT YOU AT THE COUNCIL AND THAT TOOK THE RIGHT DECISION TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.

BECAUSE IF WE DON'T FIX THE SEWER LIFT STATIONS, THEY ARE GOING TO JEOPARDIZE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.

IF WE DON'T REPLACE

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THE SEWER LINES, THEY ARE GOING TO JEOPARDIZE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.

SO THE ITEMS WE DEAL WITH ARE NOT ITEMS THAT CAN BE IGNORED.

THEY'RE NOT ITEMS THAT CAN BE PUT ON THE BACK BURNER AND SAID, WE'LL DEAL WITH THIS THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

THESE ARE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS CAPITAL PROGRAM THAT ARE NEEDED FOUR YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO, SOME MAY BE EVEN LONGER.

SO, UH, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THAT FIVE, $6 EXTRA A MONTH PER HOUSEHOLD.

IT'S MORE ABOUT PROVIDING A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, A SAFER PLACE TO LIVE WHEN IT COMES TO WASTEWATER AND WATER SERVICES.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ALL EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION, WHICH THERE AREN'T ANY, ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR NO DISCUSSION ITEMS. UM,

[V. REPORTS / ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF TWO ( 2) MINUTES PER COUNCILMEMBER)]

WE'LL BE READY NOW TO GO TO SECTION FIVE, UH, ROMAN NUMERAL FIVE, RUBBING, UH, FOR ANY ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTERESTS, UH, FOR MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS, COSMIC FRANK.

YES, SIR.

I JUST WANT TO RIDE, OR JUST TO STAY IN AND SAY ON TODAY THAT OUR CONDOLENCES GO TO THE JACKO FAMILY, UH, TO THE LEVINE FAMILY AND TO THE RENTALS FAMILY.

UH, CRAIG JACKO WAS A VITAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND, UH, HIS FAMILY, AND THEN THE RENTALS FAMILY, UH, NEPHEW OF DR.

AARON REYNOLDS, AND THEN MR. NORRIS LIVIA, ONE OF OUR CITIZENS WHO LIVED TO THE WONDERFUL AGE OF OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, UH, AND, UH, WE WANT TO OFFER CONDOLENCES TO HIS WIDOW, THOMAS DEZEEN A LOVIER AND THEIR FAMILY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER UNLOCKS, IF THAT WOULD BE IN, I LIKE TO MAKE ONE AS AN UPDATE ON THE GULF WAY, DRIVE A PROJECT FROM TXDOT AND, UH, MYSELF AND THE CANADIAN MANAGER MET WITH, UH, MR. GONZALES, THE REGIONAL ENGINEER, REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR TXDOT IN, INTO OUR REGION UP IN YOUR ABOUT 11 TO 12 COUNTIES THAT HE HANDLES.

AND ON LAST WEEK, HE EMAILED ME TO INFORM ME THAT ON JUNE 27TH, THE WORK ON GULF WAY DRIVE WILL BEGAN.

THE ACTUAL PAVING OF GULF, WE DRIVE WILL BEGIN ON JUNE 27TH, UH, WITH A, UH, THOUGHT OH, 60 TO 90 DAYS.

AND I SAID IT THAT WAY FOR A REASON, BUT BETWEEN 60 AND 90 DAYS ALL SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITH GOOD WEATHER AND, UH, WELL AVAILABILITY OF MATERIALS, UH, SHOULD BE, UH, GOOD FOR THEM AT THIS TIME.

SO ALL BEGINNING ON THE 27TH, UH, WE WILL BE SEEING SOME MOVEMENT ON GULF WAY DRIVE TXDOT, ACTUALLY AS IT'S, UH, CONTRACTED TO RETURN AND COMPLETE THE WORK ON, UM, GOV FOR HIS DRIVE.

AND, UM, ALSO WE DISCUSSED EARLIER THE, UH, PLACEMENT OF, UH, BARRIERS, UH, BARRICADE EVERY WHEEL ON A TERMINAL ROLE, ELIMINATING TRAFFIC FROM TURNING ONTO WEST 15TH STREET, AND WE'VE HAD SUCCESS WITH IT.

AND I BELIEVE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UH, IS, UH, ACTUALLY STUDYING THE OTHER AREAS TO SEE IF THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE MOVING TO THOSE OTHER, UH, STREETS THAT ACTUALLY CUT THROUGH RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

AND, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE HAS PROBABLY GOTTEN ANY CALLS OR COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS ON IT.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'VE, UH, DONE WHAT'S NECESSARY TO CORRECT THAT AND ALLEVIATE THAT, THAT PARTICULAR STRESS ON FOR THOSE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA AND THE TRAFFIC, UH, PROBLEM HERE.

UH, THERE'LL BE NO ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS OF COMMUNITY INTERESTS.

WE ARE NOW MOVE TO OUR CONSENT

[VII. CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA IN THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THERE ARE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WHERE THE COUNSELOR HAS BEEN GIVEN AND FURNISHED WITH, UH, BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND, UH, MATERIAL ON EACH OF THESE ITEMS, IF IT HAD BEEN REQUESTED.

AND, UM, ALL OF THESE ITEMS MAY BE ACTUALLY PASSED WITH ONE SINGLE VOTE.

IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS THAT COUNCIL OR COUNCIL PERSONS WOULD WANT TO HAVE WITHDRAWN WITH ONE NOD

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TO SEE THE INFORMATION THAT ON PAGE SIX, NUMBER SEVEN, PR NUMBER 22, 600, THAT EVENT HAS BEEN POSTPONED.

SO WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR REMOVAL OF THAT.

UH, AM I CORRECT ON IT? OH, MEGAN, A MOTION TO REMOVE, WE'LL JUST PULL IT FROM CONSENT AND ADDRESS IT AFTER YOU ADOPT THE REST OF CONSENT.

JUST PULL FROM CONSENT FOR INDIVIDUAL ACTION.

AND IF WE DO CONSENT, OH YEAH.

2 22, 600.

UH, YEP.

AND IT'S NUMBER SEVEN.

OKAY.

SO, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WOULD BE WITHDRAWN? WELL, YOU DO COME FROM THE KEN LAW MIRROR.

GIVE ME ONE SEC 23 ON 23 ON PAGE NINE.

UH, YES, SIR.

YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM WITHDRAWN? YES.

OKAY.

OH YEAH.

IT'S SOMETHING, YES.

EIGHT 17 NUMBER 17 ON PAGE EIGHT.

ANY OTHERS? OKAY.

NUMBER TWO.

ON PAGE OF FIVE, I TALKED TO DR.

DOCTOR ABOUT IT, BUT IT OKAY.

NUMBER TWO ON PHASE FIVE.

OKAY.

SO WE ALREADY DID OBTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCLUSION OF ITEMS. NUMBER TWO, THE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH, ITEM NUMBER 17, AND ITEM NUMBER 23.

I GET EMOTION, A COSMIC KENALOG, SOME OLD MIRROR BACK AT A SECOND.

COSMIC MARCH 2ND.

IT DOESN'T MOVE IN A SECOND.

THEN WE WOULD ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCLUSION OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN A REVIEW.

I'LL SAY IT, AND WITH A SINGLE VOTE, EXCEPT FOR THE OTHER ITEMS, UH, WE'RE READY, UH, FOR QUESTIONING WE'RE READY TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NAY THE AYES HAVE IT.

SO IT'S AUTUMN.

WE WOULD ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCLUSION OF THOSE SAID OUT OF NOW ITEM NUMBER

[VII.C.2. P. R. No. 22495 —A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into An Advance Funding Agreement With The Texas Department Of Transportation ( TxDOT) For A Texas Mobility Grant Fund ( TMF) And Acknowledge The City Of Port Arthur' s 25% Participation In The Grant Project For Improvements To Mechanic Street In Sabine Pass, Texas For The Sabine Pass Port Authority With A Projected Budgetary Impact Of $791, 542. 00. TXDOT Funding Received From TMF Will Be In An Amount Not To Exceed $ 2, 374, 6251. 68. Funds Are Available In The Capital Improvement Street Account 307- 21- 053- 8517- 00- 10- 000. Project No. ST1P90]

TWO, PR NUMBER 22, 4 9 5, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TEXTED OUT FOR A TEXAS MOBILITY GRANT, A T M L AND ACKNOWLEDGED THE CITY OF PORT OFFICE 25% PARTICIPATION IN THE GRANT PROJECT FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO MECHANIC STREET, UH, IN SABINE PASS FOR THE SABINE PASS PORT AUTHORITY WITH THE PROJECTED BUDGETARY IMPACT OF $791,542 TEXTS THAT PUNDANT RECEIVED FROM THE TMF, UH, WILL BE IN A, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED, UH, 2 MILLION, 374,651.

I DON'T, I WASN'T TAUGHT THAT WHEN THEY CALLED ME MS. EAGLE, DIDN'T TEACH ME THAT ONE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ THAT ONE SHOW.

HOW DID THAT GO? SAY YOUR SECRETARY CAN SOMEONE HELPED ME? OKAY.

SO 625,000 $2,568 68 CENTS.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SAYING I BET.

OKAY.

AND WHOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT? UH, STREET ACCOUNT 3 0 7 2 1 DASH TWO ONE DASH 0 5 3 DASH 8 5 1 7 DASH ZERO ZERO DASH ONE ZERO DASH 0 0 0.

AND IT HAS A PROJECT NUMBER OF S T ONE P NINE ZERO.

OH, MAY I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? ALL KINDS OF MARKS.

MAKE IT A SECOND.

COUNCILMAN JONES AND THEN MOVED TO SECOND.

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WE READY FOR QUESTION COW'S REMARKS.

YES.

UH, IT'S SAYS HERE THAT OUR PORTION IS GOING TO BE 25% OF THE CEILING OF 2 MILLION, 374,000 AND SOME CHANGE.

UH, AND, AND THAT, UH, IT'S GONNA WORK OUT TO BE SOMEWHERE $791,542.

BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, WHEN, WHEN YOU PUT THE CALCULATOR TO IT, UH, IT WORKED OUT TO BE LIKE 593,000.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A $200,000 DIFFERENCE.

SO W UH, WHAT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BE OUR, UH, OUR PART IN, IN THAT YOU HAVE THAT, OKAY.

JANIE ENGINEER, UM, THE, UH, TOTAL PROJECT COST IS I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

IT'S UP AROUND 3 MILLION, BUT YOU WOULD ADD THE 791 TO THE 2 MILLION, 374,000 TO ADD TO THE TOTAL PROJECT COST.

SO IT'S A PRETTY EXPENSIVE RECONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS STREET CONCRETE 10 INCH PAVEMENT TO HANDLE THE HEAVY LOADS, MOVING INTO THE PORT OF SABINE PASS.

AND, UH, THAT'S, IT'S NOT 25% OF THE 2 MILLION.

IT'S YOU ADD THE TWO TOGETHER TO THE TOTAL PROJECT COST OF 3 MILLION.

I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT FUEL COST ESTIMATE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S THREE POINT SOMETHING MILLION.

RIGHT? SO, SO IN THE COURSE OF THAT, I HAVE, IF, IF THE TOTAL PROJECT CRAWLS TO SAY 3 MILLION, YES.

AND WHAT THIS RESOLUTION SAYS IS THAT OUR PORTION IS GOING TO BE 25% OF WHATEVER THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS.

SO, AND WE'RE SHOWING THE 7 91, UH, IS, IS WHAT OUR PORTION IS GOING TO BE.

AND THAT'S A SEAL.

AND THAT'S AS MUCH AS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

UH, I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT ABOUT THE BUDGET AMOUNT ON THIS ONE IS YES.

UM, MS. VAL JUST SENT ME THE, GAVE ME THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS 3 MILLION, $166,167.

AND THAT, THAT INCLUDES ENGINEERING CALLS, A SURVEY AND UTILITY RELOCATIONS.

THAT'S THE COMPLETE PACKAGE THERE.

SO THE 25% WILL COME OFF OF THAT NOW.

SO THAT'S CLOSER TO THE 791.

YES.

THAT'S ALL I'M.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? OKAY.

THERE AREN'T ANY QUESTIONS YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NAY AYES, HAVE IT TOWARDS THE PR NUMBER 2, 2, 4, 9, 5.

HE IS ACCEPTED NEXT.

[VII.C.7. P. R. No. 22600 — A Resolution Designating And Establishing The Hot Rod Daddy Bike/ Car Show And Heritage Festival, Designating The Artists Of Southeast Texas As Exclusive Concessionaire And Authorizing The City Manager To Execute An Agreement Thereof]

WE HAVE, UH, OKAY.

THE REMOVAL, UH, NUMBER SEVEN BECAUSE OF THE POSTPONED, UH, EVENT THAT IT WAS SCHEDULED.

MAY I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE FROM, UH, THE AGENDA, UH, COUNCIL REMARKS AND SOME MOVEMENT BACK AT THE SECOND CAUSE FROM, BECAUSE ONE OF THE MOTORS EVEN MOVING THE SECOND THAT WE WERE, WE WOULD REMOVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS PR NUMBER 22, 600 BECAUSE OF THE POSTPONEMENT.

ARE YOU READY FOR QUESTION? ANY QUESTIONS WE'RE READY TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF REMOVAL, ANY OPPOSES AS AVID TOWARDS AUDIT PR NUMBER TWO TO 600 IS REMOVED NEXT.

WE HAVE

[VII.C.17. P. R. No. 22622 — A Resolution Approving Water And Sewer Adjustments To Certain Utility Accounts Due To Leaks And/ Or Equipment Malfunction]

A PR WELL, ITEM NUMBER 17 ON PAGE EIGHT.

I'M SORRY.

I DON'T REMEMBER 17 ON PAGE EIGHT, PR NUMBER 22 6 2 2.

IT IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING WATER AND SEWER ADJUSTMENTS TO CERTAIN UTILITY ACCOUNTS DUE TO LEAKS AND OR EQUIPMENT MOUTH FUNCTION.

MAY I GET, UH, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? COSMIN JONES MAY GET A SECOND COSMIC KENALOG.

YOU'VE BEEN MOVED IN SECOND THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT PR NUMBER 22, 6 22 IS READ.

WE READ IF HE, UH, QUESTIONS COSMIN KEMO .

UH, YES.

UH, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, THE REASON WHY I PULLED THIS ITEM IS BECAUSE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, NO DOCTOR TOLD ME, UH, SPOKE TO THIS EARLIER ABOUT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THE ADJUSTMENTS.

UH, AND I I'VE BEEN IN MS. UH, UH, RHONDA CON STANSBERRY, I'M SORRY, IN THE STANSBERRY.

I AM SO SORRY, BUT, UH, YEAH, IN FACT, I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH HER ON FRIDAY WHEN

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SHE WAS OFF.

AND, UH, HOW IS YOUR HUSBAND DOING? HE'S DOING, HE'S DOING WELL, THANK GOD FOR THAT.

BUT, UH, UH, WE DID A TALK AND HE SHARED, I TALKED TO CLAUDIA, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF MY CONSTITUENTS THAT HAVE CALLED ME AND I'VE COME IN WITH THEM.

AND THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH, WITH ONE OF MINE, WITH MY IRRIGATION METER, I HAD COME IN AND WE HAD TO TRAIN, CHANGE THE TRANSMITTER.

AND SO WE'VE GOT THESE TRANSMITTERS, THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE TRANSMITTERS.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED, UH, AS WELL AS WE COULD TO THE PUBLIC, THAT THE REASON WHY WE ARE HAVING ALL OF THESE SPIKES IN, IN, IN THE, UH, UH, THE WATER BILLS AND THE, THE SEWER BILLS, ALL OF THIS, UH, IT'S, IT'S BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT ISSUES.

AND, AND WE NEED TO ACTUALLY, UH, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY LET OUR CONSTITUENTS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON NOW.

I DON'T HAVE, IN FACT THAT I FIND IT'S MY DUTY.

IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY.

WHEN SOMEONE CALLS ME ABOUT THESE IS TO COME IN AND, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, WORK SOME OF THESE THINGS OUT, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE WHEN THEY'VE HAD TO COME MORE THAN ONCE WE'VE, WE THINK WE'VE GOT THE PROBLEM SOLVED, AND THEN WE, THEY GET ANOTHER BILL AND THERE'S ANOTHER SPIKE IN IT.

SO, UM, JUST SHARE WITH US, IF YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, SHARE WITH US WHAT WE ARE DOING TO REMEDY THIS SITUATION SO THAT, UH, WE CAN, UH, MAKE OR ENSURE THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF AND NOT BEING OVERCHARGED.

THIS PARTICULAR ITEM HERE SHOWS THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE.

UH, I THINK ONE OF THESE IS A RESIDENTIAL AND TO OUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS HERE.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO, YEAH.

COULD YOU JUST SHARE WITH US WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING TO REMEDY THE SITUATION? YES.

UH, ACTUALLY BACK IN 2019, WE DID DO A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL REGARDING THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE HAVING WITH THE TRANSMITTERS ACROSS THE CITY.

UH, AND AS DR.

TOMI, UH, DID MENTION THIS WAS AN INHERITED ISSUE AND IT WAS NOT BEING ADDRESSED, UH, FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, WHEN WE BEGIN TO ADDRESS IT, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THESE TRANSMITTERS.

UH, WE SPOKE WITH, UH, I TRON ABOUT THE TRANSMITTERS, AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON, WE'RE HAVING TOO MANY CUSTOMER SPIKES.

THEN WE'RE HAVING A TIMES WHERE CUSTOMERS WEREN'T EVEN BEING BILLED FOR THEIR WATER USAGE AT ALL.

SO WE CALL THAT A CUT CABLE.

WE HAD TO FIGURE ALL OF THIS OUT, AND WE'RE STILL FIGURING OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE BIKES.

WE HAVE MORE THAN A FEW ITEMS THAT ARE HAPPENING OR THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH THE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE.

AND WE'RE HAVING TO REALLY DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE KNOW WE HAVE THE CUT CABLE, WHICH WAS DUE TO INSTALLATION ISSUES.

UH, ALSO, UH, WHEN HARVEY CAME ABOUT IT DID SPEED UP THE PROCESS OF THESE FAILURES AT THE TIME, UH, WHEN WE GAVE THE PRESENTATION IN 2019, WE INFORMED COUNSEL THAT WE EXPECTED UP TO 10,000 OF THESE, UH, TRANSMITTERS, UH, TO FAIL.

UH, HOWEVER, WE'VE EXCEEDED THAT NUMBER.

AND WE'RE NOW AT 11,280, UH, THAT WE'VE REPLACED.

UM, SO WE HAVE GONE PAST THE 10,000 MARK.

WE ALSO DID EXPECT THAT MORE WOULD FAIL, UH, IN THE FUTURE.

AND WE DO HAVE THAT, UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 1,200 THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED NOW, BUT WE CAN'T REPLACE THEM BECAUSE THERE IS A EQUIPMENT ISSUE.

WE CAN'T GET EQUIPMENT IN.

WE MAY ORDER MAYBE 5,000, 10,000 REGISTERS, AND WE'RE ONLY GETTING 300.

SO WE'RE HAVING TO PUT THOSE IN AS WE CAN.

AND IN ORDER TO TRY TO REMEDY SOME OF THE SPIKES THAT THE CUSTOMERS ARE RECEIVING IN THE BILLS, SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE EQUIPMENT, IF THEIR CONSUMPTION GOES DOWN, WE'RE GIVING THEM THE ADJUSTMENT WITHOUT CHANGING THE EQUIPMENT, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, UH, WE DON'T EXPECT THESE CUSTOMERS TO GET THESE HOSPITAL WORKS.

AND WE DON'T LIKE IT WHEN THEY DO, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN.

I MEAN, I WOULD, WE'RE ALL CITIZENS HERE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CUSTOMERS ARE NOT BEARING THAT BURDEN FOR TOO LONG.

UM,

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USUALLY IT'S, WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER WE REALIZED THAT THAT IT IS A SPIKE, UH, IT COULD BE SEVERAL THINGS GOING ON WITH THE TRANSMITTER.

WE HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS EXACTLY GOING ON WITH THE TRANSMITTER, BUT WE DO TRY TO GIVE THE CUSTOMERS AND ADJUSTMENT, UH, SO THAT THEY WILL NOT BEAR THAT BURDEN.

UH, SOMETIMES, UH, WE HAVE CUSTOMERS THAT WANT TO KNOW, WHEN WILL MY EQUIPMENT BE CHANGED? WE CAN'T GIVE AN, WE CAN'T GIVE THEM AN ANSWER.

WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.

SO WHAT'S CUSTOMER SERVICE HAS TOLD SOME CUSTOMERS IT'S NOT A FULL PRACTICE.

IT'S JUST THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE CUSTOMER AND THE REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.

A LOT OF THE TIMES THEY WILL TELL THE CUSTOMER, WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.

UH, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE, YOU CAN CHECK BACK WITH US NEXT MONTH AND MAYBE WE CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATED STATUS ON WHEN WE WILL REPLACE YOUR EQUIPMENT.

IT'S JUST AN ISSUE OVERALL.

OKAY.

LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.

I KNOW BACK IN, I WANT TO THINK IT WAS SEPTEMBER WHEN WE WENT TO TML AND THERE WERE A GROUP OF US SPEAKING TO, UH, ONE OF THE MA ONE OF THE SUPPLIERS, UH, WHAT SIEMENS WAS SEEING FROM THE SIEMENS.

AND, UH, AND THEY WERE TELLING US ABOUT THEIR, UH, ABOUT THE, THE, THE ISSUE WITH, WITH, WITH, WITH THE EQUIPMENT, WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND THE TRAINING AND EVERYTHING.

I THINK THEY WERE, THEY WERE, MAYBE WE, WE PROBABLY VIOLATED THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT BECAUSE THERE WERE FOUR OR FIVE OF US IN THIS VENDOR'S BOOTH AT THE TIME.

AND THEY WOULD TELL HIM, TELLING US ABOUT THAT ISSUE.

AND THE, UH, THE THING ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT WAS, UH, THERE WAS A, I THINK A TRAINING ISSUE, W W WHAT'S THE BIG THING, BUT THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH, WITH YOU ALL.

BUT, BUT W THE, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE, AND THE REASON I PULL THIS THING IS, IS BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING SO MANY EQUIPMENT, I GUESS, FAILURES.

YES, SIR.

AND WITH THE CAUSE AND THE SPIKES, AND THEN WHEN YOU REPLACED THE TRANSMITTERS, OR WHAT OF THE, WHAT'S THE OTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, THE REGISTER, WHEN YOU REPLACE THOSE THINGS, IT SEEMS TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE.

THAT PROBLEM, BECAUSE IT WORKED FOR ME AND I CAME INTO YOUR OFFICE, CAME OUT AND Y'ALL CHANGED THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ON MY IRRIGATION METER.

AND I HAVEN'T HAD A PROBLEM SINCE, BUT I'VE GOT AT LEAST SIX CONSTITUENTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT ARE HAVING MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THEY HAVE TO COME TO YOUR OFFICE OR CALL OR IN TO SPEAK TO MS. CLAUDIA OR TO YOU.

AND THEY'RE GETTING FRUSTRATED.

YES, SIR.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO, TO ELIMINATE OR TRYING TO REMEDY RIGHT NOW.

AND, AND SO, AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ALL.

UH, I, I KNOW CUSTOMER SERVICE IS, IS, IS THE HALLMARK OF BEING A PUBLIC SERVANT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE.

YES, SIR.

WE ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS.

SO, AND, AND WE'VE GOT TAXPAYERS OUT THERE THAT, THAT EXPECT GOOD SERVICE.

AND SO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE.

SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO ACTUALLY EXPEDITE THIS SITUATION WHERE WE CAN FIND OUT FROM THE MANUFACTURERS THAT SUPPLY CHAIN, W WHAT CAN WE DO TO, TO GET THAT THE CORRECT EQUIPMENT IN HERE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'VE ORDERED SEVERAL THOUSAND AND WE'RE ONLY GETTING 300, THEN WE'VE GOT SEVERAL THOUSAND PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE PROBLEMS. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP RE GETTING THESE CALLS AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP HAVING THESE PROBLEMS. AND, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THAT EXTRA WORK WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS AND EVERYTHING SITTING OUT THERE.

SO, UH, WHAT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS AS AN ISSUE THAT IS, THAT IS, SHOULD BE MADE A PRIORITY FOR US, ESPECIALLY IN LIEU THAT WE'VE JUST HAD A WORKSHOP ABOUT ANOTHER RATE INCREASE.

YES, SIR.

LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING, UH, RELATED TO THE SIEMENS COMMENTS ON THIS, THE MAJOR PROBLEM THAT WE DISCOVERED AND DOCUMENTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THEY CAME IN AND THEY INSTALLED THE TRANSMITTERS ON EXISTING REGISTERS THAT HAD TOO SHORT OF A WIRE.

SO THEY SPLICED THEM.

AND THE WAY YOU SPLICE IT, THERE'S A TUBE THAT'S FULL OF GREASE

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THAT BOTH SPLICES GO INTO AND SHOULD BE FULLY EMERGED PAST THE WIRE BY LIKE TWO INCHES, A LOT OF THESE PLACES, BECAUSE THE REGISTERS, WHILE WIRE WAS TOO SHORT, IT WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT.

THEY ARE NOT HAVING A FULL SPLICE CONNECTION, THE MOISTURE AND THE WATER CAUSED A LOT OF DAMAGE.

SO IT'S NOT DRAINING NONE OF THAT BECAUSE THE CITY STAFF DID NOT GET INVOLVED IN THE INSTALLATION.

THEY HIRED THEIR OWN PEOPLE TO DO THE INSTALLATION.

THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSTALLED THAT WAY, BUT THEY INSTALLED IT ANYWAY.

AND THAT'S WHY I WAS HAVING SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THESE TRANSMITTERS AND REGISTERS.

SO WHEN THEY GO INTO YOUR PLACE, THEY REPLACE THE REGISTER AND THE TRANSMITTER.

NOW THEY HAVE A GOOD CONNECTION.

IT ELIMINATES THAT FAILURE.

WE'RE STILL SEEING IT ON SOME OF THE NEW EQUIPMENT EVEN, BUT VERY, VERY RARELY.

AND WE HAD THE MANUFACTURER WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? YEAH.

THANK YOU, MR. HEBERT.

OKAY.

WE'RE READY TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED AS AVATARS, WE WOULD ACCEPT PR NUMBER 22 6 2 2 IS RED.

[VII.C.23. P. R. No. 22629 — A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Execute A First Amendment To The Lease With Aurora Capital Holdings LLC, A Delaware Limited Liability Corporation For The Property Located At 449 Austin Avenue]

UH, WE HAVE FINALLY NOW PR NUMBER 22 6 2 9 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE WITH AURORAL CAPITAL HOLDINGS, LLC, A DELAWARE LIMITED LIABILITY COOPERATION FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4 49 AUSTIN AVENUE, MEG, AND A MOTION FOR APPROVAL COUNSELOR MARKS.

SO MOVE MEGAN A SECOND.

COUNCILMAN JONES.

OKAY.

NOW COSMIC KIDDING ME.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

IT'S ON THIS.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, CITY ATTORNEY ONE DOES, IS ACTUALLY EXPIRES AT THE END OF JUNE, OR IS IT A END OF JULY OR THE 1ST OF JULY BEFORE I START MY QUESTIONS, LET ME CHECK THE DATE.

HOLD ON.

IT'S 18 MONTHS FROM THE DATE THAT IT WAS EXECUTED AND I BELIEVE IT WAS EXECUTED IN DECEMBER.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, I HAVE TO CALCULATE THAT I DON'T THE EXACT DATE, BUT I THINK IT IS JUNE IN THE JAIL.

OKAY.

OH, SEE YOU HAVE ANY CHECK? LET ME LOOK AT THE SAME.

OKAY.

AND THE REASON WHY, WHY YOU GUYS LOOKING FOR THAT CITY MANAGER? YOU CAN KIND OF RESEARCH THAT, UH, IT WAS SENT OUT THE ACTUALLY CONTRACT THAT WELL, THE ACTUAL LEASE AGREEMENT WAS SENT OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, FOR 14 20, 22 FOR REHAB, BECAUSE I SUGGESTED THAT WE GET MORE CLARIFICATION ON WHERE WE WERE ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

UH, MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE WE'VE ALREADY SPENT WITHIN THIS 18 MONTHS PERIOD ON THE REHAB DESIGN ENGINEER SURVEY ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AS OF DATE 18 MONTHS, I COULD PUT THAT WE COULD PUT THAT TOGETHER FOR THE COUNCIL.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I'M ASKING THOSE THREE QUESTIONS BECAUSE NOW SEE, WE HAVE SOMETHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

THAT'S GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH REDESIGN FOR $312,000.

SO I HAVE A CONCERN I WANT TO KNOW WITHIN THIS LAST 18 MONTHS, WHAT WERE YOU ALREADY PAID? YOU KNOW, DESIGN PHASE SURVEY ENGINEERING, ALL THE WHOLE WORKUP, BECAUSE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET, UH, SOME TYPE OF UPDATE WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS ON WHERE WE WERE WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND I'M SEEING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.

UH, I'M LOOKING ON THIS, THE RESOLUTION, IT HAS SAID DELAYS.

WHAT WERE SOME OF THE DELAYS CITY MANAGER THAT PREVENTED US FROM MOVING FORWARD IN AN 18 MONTH PERIOD, UH, UH, WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE ELLA, TO THE LLC WITH THE DOOR RIGHT HERE? THE RESOLUTION AND I, I PULLED, I'M LOOKING AT THE BACKGROUND HISTORY AND IT SAYS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DELAYED.

SO I'M, I'M ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS AND I'M TRYING TO JUST KIND OF GIVE A TIMELINE OF WHAT WERE SOME OF THOSE DELAYS IN THE 18 MONTH PERIOD.

WHEREAS SECOND, THIRD.

YEAH.

WE AS A FOOD, WHEREAS PERIOD, AND THAT'S GOING TO BUILD THIS TIMELINE THAT I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING YOU TO CITY MANAGER AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE WE AT WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.

OKAY.

THIRD THING,

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CREDIT CREDIT FOR THE HVAC.

IT SAYS REQUESTS AND SET UP, WE'RE GOING TO BE ACTUALLY GIVING CREDIT.

SO ARE WE REQUESTING CREDIT AT THIS POINT? ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE GETTING THE CREDIT? THEY'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN THE CREDIT FOR THE HVAC SYSTEM.

OKAY.

AT THIS POINT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY DEFINITE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING THE 96 CASES.

WE ARE GOING TO BE GIVING, WE ARE GOING TO GET IT.

SO WE HAVE REQUESTS AND I CIRCLED THAT IN THE BACKGROUND HISTORY, UH, AND ALSO CITY MANAGER, UH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT THAT WE'RE ASKED TO VOTE ON TODAY, WE'RE SAYING IT'S 12 MONTHS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY, 18 MONTHS OF THIS NEW GIVE, GIVE HIM THE CREDIT, GIVE THEM THE CREDIT THAT'S ATTITUDES.

OKAY.

18 MONTHS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

12 PLUS SIX.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO ANY, ANY FORESIGHT ON, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY SITUATION OR ISSUES WITH TRYING TO GET THIS HEALTH DEPARTMENT OFF THE GROUND DESIGN PHASE SURVEYS ENGINEERING, THE WHOLE NINE WORKS, BUT THEY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS AN EXISTING BUILDING.

UM, WE DO HAVE THE ENGINE, THE ARCHITECT HERE WITH US.

WE DO HAVE ALL THE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THOSE ALREADY.

ALL WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT THOUGH, WE ARE AWARDING A, UM, A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACT TO SIGMA ENGINEERING TODAY SO THAT THEY COULD DO THAT FOR US TOMORROW.

WE'RE OPENING THE BEADS FOR, FOR THE, UM, IS IT ON THE 22ND CLIFF? WE HAD IT SCHEDULED SCHEDULED FOR THE 15TH OF THIS MONTH.

AND SO WHAT'S THE NEW DATE CLIFF THAT WE'RE DOING.

IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR THE 22ND, BUT NOW IT'S THE 29TH.

UH, SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WERE ASKED BY THE CONTRACTORS AND BECAUSE WE WERE OFF YESTERDAY FOR THE HOLIDAY, WE DIDN'T GET TO ANSWER TO TODAY, WHICH WOULDN'T GAVE HIM MUCH TIME FOR TOMORROW.

SO WE GAVE HIM AN EXTRA WEEK.

UM, SO IT WOULD BE DUE THE 29TH.

SO ON THE 29TH, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE BIDS.

WHEN WE OPENED THE BIDS ON THE 29TH, I KNEW THAT THE COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED A TIMELINE OF CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE MOTIVA WITH THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE, UM, AS SOON AS WE GET THAT DONE IN ORDER FOR US TO, BUT I'M, I'M PRETTY MUCH CONFIDENT THAT WE WOULD COVER THE PERIOD OF 18 MONTHS BEFORE WE DO CLIFF, WHICH WOULD BE WITHIN GOOD TIME.

AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WASN'T ANSWERED, UH, THAT YOU WOULD NEED SOME MORE CLARIFICATION TO BE PUSHED TO THE 29TH THAT THEY HAD CONNECTED THE WAY ENGINEERING QUESTION.

SO I COULDN'T ANSWER IT.

SO, UM, THE QUESTIONS WAS SENT TO ME LAST, UH, I FOUGHT HIM LAST WEEK TO SIGMA SIGMA RESPONDED.

UM, IT WAS LIKE AROUND 12 FRIDAY, WE DIDN'T GET TO SEND IT OUT.

AND THEN WE WAS OFF MONDAY.

SO I SENT IT OUT FIRST THING THIS MORNING.

SO THAT'S WHY HE DIDN'T KNOW.

I JUST CHANGED TO THE 29TH TODAY TO GIVE HIM TIME.

OKAY, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR AND CITY MANAGER IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE BE OBLIGATED TO PAY AFTER THE, THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE DATE FROM MY CITY ATTORNEY AND YOURSELF AFTER THIS TIME EXPIRES WITH YOUR NEGOTIATED.

CAUSE I HADN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING FROM YOU STATING IF WE WOULD HAVE TO START PAYING THE $12,000 OR ARE WE GOING TO WASH OR WHATEVER REASON, OR ARE WE GOING TO GET CREDIT FOR THE HVAC OR WHATEVER AFTER THIS TIME ELAPSED AT THE END OF THE MONTH WHERE WE HAVE TO PAY MOTIVA, ANY TYPE OF FUNDING AT ALL, BUT BASED ON MY DISCUSSION WITH, UM, THE MOTIVA REPRESENTATIVE, UM, HE, HE HAS INDICATED THAT WE'VE GOT SUFFICIENT TIME TO RELOOK AT IT AGAIN, TO SEE WHETHER THEY COULD PROVIDE US WITH EXTRA CREDIT.

THEY ARE PREPARED TO WORK WITH US, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THEY HAVE PROVIDED US 18 MONTHS OF CREDIT IN GOOD FIF I THINK THAT THERE'S A GREAT POSSIBILITY AGAIN, THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH US IF THEY'RE, WHEN THE TIME COMES TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

BUT I THINK ALSO THAT 18 MONTHS IS SUFFICIENT TIME FOR US TO GET OUT OF THAT.

OKAY.

SO YOU'LL FIND THAT INFORMATION OUT, I GUESS, BY THE END OF THE MONTH.

OKAY.

AND YOU WERE POOR, I GUESS WHEN IT'S THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, IT'S JULY THE FIFTH.

CAN WE GET THAT PUT ON THERE SO WE CAN GET AN UPDATE? YES.

IF WE HAVE TO PAY OR NOT.

YES.

WE GOT THAT ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CINNAMON.

OKAY.

OH, I'M GOING TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION.

GO RIGHT WITH THAT.

AND YOU HAVE ONE MORE.

OH, JUST TO, I JUST CHECK THE DATE, THE DATE ON THAT WAS DECEMBER 17TH, 2020.

SO, UH, IT WAS 18 MONTHS FROM THAT TIMEFRAME THAT, THAT WAS THE DATE THAT WE CLOSED DECEMBER 17TH.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE END OF, SO IT WOULD BE THE END OF JANUARY, THE CLOSING.

AND THEN ON THIS ITEM, THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

IT'S FOR A 12 MONTH PERIOD AT THE END OF THE 12 MONTH PERIOD, THERE'S A $24,000 FEE THAT WOULD DO, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO GET CREDIT FOR THE HVAC AND THEN

[02:50:01]

YOU CAN EXTEND IT, UH, THAT THERE'S A $98,000 CREDIT AFTER THAT.

OKAY.

SO IT IS A 12 MONTHS, BUT YOU HAVE A NINE MONTH, IT'S A 12 MONTH LEASE, BUT THEN YOU WILL, FOR ANY HOLDOVER PERIOD, HAVE A $98,000 CREDIT THE 24 AFTER THE 12 MONTH PERIOD, THAT WILL GET YOU.

YEAH.

WHATEVER, WHATEVER AMOUNT OF MONEY IS LEFT, THAT, THAT 98,000 RULES.

SO, UH, WILL YOU BE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION OR CITY MANAGER ON WHAT WE'VE ALREADY EXPAND OUR, WHAT WE SPENT ON THE 18 MONTHS PERIOD OF THE OLD EXISTING AGREEMENT ENGINEERING DESIGN, ALL THOSE, YEAH.

THE TOTAL EXPENDITURE TO DATE.

YES, YES, YES, YES.

WE CAN DO THAT.

OKAY.

WE CAN DO THAT.

THAT'S EASY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

COUNSELOR MARKS.

YES.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, UH, IT'S, UH, ON PAGE TWO OF THE, UH, FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT, UH, AND, AND SAYS THAT, UH, AND I, I'M CONFUSED AS TO, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE ABATED RENT, YOU KNOW, RENT WAS GOING TO BE 12,000 PER MONTH AND THE FIRST 18 MONTHS, UH, THE RENT WAS ABATED, ALL WAS, IS, IS THAT THE TERM THAT THEY'RE USING? SO, BUT NOW THERE'S IN THIS THING HERE SAYS THAT, WELL, ONCE, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT TERM, THROUGH THAT 18 MONTHS, AND WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING AN EXTENSION RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PAYING THE $12,000 PER MONTH.

PLUS THE $12,000 FOR THE ABATED RENT.

IS THAT, AM I READING THAT RIGHT? SO THEY REALLY DID NOT GIVE US ANY, ANY, ANY RELIEF.

OKAY.

WHEN WE FIRST RECEIVED, WE GOT ENTERED INTO THE LEASE IN DECEMBER OF 2020, IT WAS FOR A CERTAIN MONTHLY AMOUNT OF $12,000 A MONTH.

AND THEY ABATED THAT AND NOW BATEMAN PERIOD ENDS THIS MONTH.

SO THE 18 MONTHS OF ABATED RENT, YOU WOULD'VE PAID 12,000 A MONTH, BUT IT WAS A BADEN AND YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

THAT'S WHAT THE PARAGRAPH B REFERS TO.

NOW.

THEY HAVE, UM, INDICATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US A CREDIT OF 96,000 6 21.

AND THEY'RE EXTENDING THE LEASE PERIOD, I GUESS, BEGINNING, JULY, BEGINNING, JULY 1ST FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE 12 MONTHS FROM JULY, 2022 TO JULY, 2023, THAT'S THE EXTENSION.

AND THEN IT WILL ALSO BE A BETA THAT THAT'S AN ABATEMENT PERIOD.

SO YOU HAVE TWO FEES DUE FOR THE ABATEMENT PERIOD WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT.

UM, SO THERE'LL BE $24,000 DUE.

AND THEN WHAT THEY WILL ALSO DO IS GIVE US CREDIT.

SO BASICALLY, UM, THEY'LL HAVE CREDIT AND YOU REALLY WOULDN'T OWE ANYTHING UNTIL NOVEMBER 20, 23.

YEAH.

BUT THE CREDIT IS FOR THE MONIES EXPENDED FOR THE HVAC UNIT.

SO, SO LET'S JUST LEAVE OUT THE, THE, THE CREDIT FOR THE, THE HVAC AND GET BACK TO THE, THE, THE ORIGINAL LEASE AGREEMENT.

AND THAT'S, WHAT'S CONFUSING ME.

AND I KNOW I WASN'T HERE AND I'VE BEEN ASKING THESE QUESTIONS AND I KNOW I'M PROBABLY GETTING ON SOMEBODY'S NERVES, BUT, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MY, IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A COUNCILMAN TO, TO, TO GET THESE THINGS CLEAR.

WHEN WE PURCHASED THE, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE DID THE AGREEMENT, WE AGREED TO $12,000 A MONTH IN RENT FOR AFTER THE PURCHASE PRICE.

THAT WAS A BAITED FOR 18 MONTHS.

SO THAT ABATEMENT MEANS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY EIGHT, $12,000 FOR 18 MONTHS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY RENT FOR 18 MONTHS AFTER THE 18 MONTH PERIOD.

WHAT I'M SEEING IS, IS THAT NOW THE RENT PAYMENTS ARE TO BEGIN AT $12,000 A MONTH.

PLUS WE'RE PAYING THE $12,000.

THAT HAS BEEN A BETA.

IS THAT, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? OKAY.

YOU ARE WINNING.

DEBATED IS POSTPONED IS NOT DOING, IT'S NOT DELETED.

SO, SO THEY REALLY DIDN'T.

THEY DIDN'T DO US ANY FAVORS IS WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE WE ENDED UP GETTING OUT OF, AND I HATE TO KEEP BEATING THIS DEAD HORSE, BUT WE GOT OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR, UH, AGREEMENT.

WE ARE LEAVING THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND WE ENDED UP HAVING TO PAY $922,000 BACK FROM THAT GRANT.

SO, UM, I'M JUST, IT'S, IT'S JUST, UM, I'M, I'M CONFUSED.

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I AM CONFUSED AS TO HOW THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED, UH, BEING A GOOD NEGOTIATION, A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY, A GOOD DEAL FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITIZENS OF PORT OFF IT.

I JUST, I CAN'T, I CAN'T WRAP MY HANDS AROUND THIS ONE.

I REALLY CAN'T.

AND I'M SORRY, BUT I JUST, WHEN I SAW THIS LAST NIGHT, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS, AND I'M SAYING, I THOUGHT THEY GAVE US A CREDIT ALL FOR 18 MONTHS, THEY WERE GOING TO, BUT THEY DIDN'T.

SO WE ENDED UP HAVING TO PAY THAT, THAT AT WHAT IS IT? 144,000 PLUS WHAT? THE AMOUNT YOU WOULD, OH, I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

HAD YOU HAD YOU, HAD YOU BEEN ON INDIA? STOP ME A, I KNOW YOU ARE, AS YOU'VE BEEN HERE WITH ME, YOU WOULD HAVE VOTED ALONG WITH ME WHEN IT'S OUT, BUT YOU WEREN'T HERE.

SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TWO OF US.

OKAY.

GO RIGHT HERE.

NO, I WAS JUST SAYING, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK PAGE, IT SHOWS THAT YOUR CREDIT WILL BE APPLIED JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, THEN YOU'LL HAVE $622 APPLIED IN NOVEMBER.

SO JUST TO, TO MAKE EVERYTHING CLEAR, YOU WILL NOT OWE ANYTHING.

IT'S A 12 MONTH LEASE.

AND THEN THE CREDIT WILL BE APPLIED.

AND THE CREDIT IS APPLIED IN $24,000 A MONTH.

SO YOU WILL, YOU WILL NOT BE, YOU WILL NOT PAY ANYTHING UNTIL NOVEMBER 20TH, 2013.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THAT CREDIT IS BASED ON MONIES THAT WE'VE ALREADY EXPENDED TO REPLACE AN HVAC UNIT AT THAT SAME BUILDING THAT MOTIVA PURCHASED FROM US.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

LOOK, WHEN WE GO HOME, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON AND EVERYTHING IS GOOD ACCOUNTS REMARKS.

I WAS SINGING THE SAME SONG TWO YEARS AGO.

I BELIEVE IT WAS WHENEVER THAT WAS, IT WAS DONE.

UH, COSMIC CHEMO.

YOU HAD THAT, YEAH.

MAYOR.

AND THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF, FORTUNATELY YOU MAY SAY THAT STATEMENT BECAUSE THAT THIS, THAT 18 MONTHS DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH NO COUNCIL MEMBER ON THIS COUNCIL.

I'VE BEEN ACCESSING UPDATES PERIODICALLY ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE ANIMAL SHELTER THROUGHOUT THE 18 MONTHS.

SO I JUST ASKED TODAY, I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER, WHEN WOULD HE PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION WITH DELAYS? WHAT WERE THE DELAYS THAT PREVENTED THIS? HE SAID HE WAS STILL IN NEGOTIATION.

IF YOU WOULD JUST RECALL WHAT HE JUST STATED.

I ASKED, WHAT DID WE PAY FOR ENGINEERING? I'LL ALSO ASK, WHAT DID WE PAY FOR SURVEYING THE DESIGN PHASE? I'VE BEEN ACCIDENT THE WHOLE TIME, 18 MONTHS.

NOW WE DIDN'T GOT TO THIS POINT THAT I STATED THREE MONTHS AGO PAYING THE $12,000.

AND IT'S NOT IN GOOD FAITH.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

WE'VE BEEN ASKING THESE QUESTIONS AND THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION IS BY THE CITY MANAGER.

SO I DO DILIGENCE.

WE'RE THERE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ASK THOSE TOUGH QUESTIONS.

SO I ASKED TODAY AGAIN, WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT WE'VE ALREADY PAID? BECAUSE I SEE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE KNOCK AND SIN THAT I'M GOING TO QUESTION.

SO I NEED TO GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED BECAUSE THAT WHOLE 18 MONTHS, SO YOU SAID, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, I THOUGHT YOU AGREED, YOU WOULD HAVE FIT ON OUR NEXT MEETING.

HOLD ON.

THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE IT FOR YOU.

THOSE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I ASKED.

SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET THOSE INFORMATION, THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE CAMP, BUT THAT'S FROM YOU ALL WANT TO PROVIDE THAT RIGHT? JUDAH OUTFIT.

AM I CORRECT? YEAH.

JUST ASK FOR CLARIFICATION.

WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS ASKING FOR IS EXPENDITURE UP TO DATE AS TO HOW MUCH WE HAVE SPENT ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

IF WE CAN PROVIDE THAT, THAT'S PRETTY EASY.

THE LADY THAT COMES FROM THE, AND WHATEVER, THE LEASE THAT HAS BEEN STATED IN THERE.

AND IF THERE ARE, WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S PRETTY EASY.

THAT'S PRETTY EASY.

I MEAN, WE CAN'T CHANGE IT.

THE FIGURES OF WHAT THEY ARE, THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY EASY.

YEAH.

WE CAN PROVIDE THAT.

SO W WE HAVE ALL THAT ON JULY 30TH.

AM I CORRECT? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

I JUST, I KNOW WE WERE THROWING OUT THESE DIFFERENT MONTHS.

THE 18 MONTHS ONLY APPLIED TO THE ORIGINAL LEGALLY.

WE'RE GOING TO SIGN A NEW LEASE FOR 12 MONTHS.

AND THEN SOMEONE SAID, 18 MONTHS AGAIN IS 16 MONTHS.

SO WE'LL HAVE 16 MONTHS WHERE WE DON'T PAY HIM.

SO THIS ITEM THAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS 16 MONTHS, 12 MONTHS, 12 MONTHS WITH THE CREDIT, YOU'LL HAVE 16 MONTHS OF NO PAYMENT.

OKAY.

THAT'S AND THEN IF YOU GET TWO MONTHS BY NOVEMBER, THAT'S

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WHEN WE START PAYING NOVEMBER 20, 23.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WITH SOME DIFFERENT NUMBERS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR 12 MONTHS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE CREDIT.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

WE'RE READY TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSES.

OKAY.

WHICH WE FAIL.

OKAY.

UH,

[VIII.A.1. P. R. No. 22519 —A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract With Sigma Engineers Of Beaumont, Texas, For Construction Management Services For The New Health Facility Located At 5860 9th Avenue, Port Arthur, Jefferson County, Texas Not To Exceed $ 312, 500. 00; Funding Available In Capital Account: 307- 21- 049- 8512- 00- 10- 000; Project No. BU0006- CON]

NEXT ITEMS WOULD BE, UH, I WOULD, NO, I CONSENT AGENDA.

EXCUSE ME.

WE HAVE IN OUR CONSENT AGENDA, A P R A NUMBER 22 5 1 900 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE SIGMA ENGINEERS OF BEAUMONT, TEXAS FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE NEW HEALTH FACILITY LOCATED AT 58 60 NINTH AVENUE, PORT OFF THE TEXAS PORT OFF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS, NOT TO EXCEED 312, $500 FUNDING AVAILABLE IN CAPITAL ACCOUNT 3 0 7 DASH 21 DASH FOUR DASH 0 4 9 THAT'S 8 5 1 2 DASH ZERO ZERO DASH ONE ZERO DASH 0 0 0 0.

AND PROJECT NUMBER B U 0 0 0 6 DASH C O N R.

CONSTRUCTION.

I BELIEVE IT IS.

UM, MAYBE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

COUNCILMAN MOSES MAY GET A SECOND.

COUNCILMAN FRANK.

YES, SIR.

IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT PR NUMBER 22, 5 1 9 IS READ.

WE READ IT.

OF COURSE IT CAUSED COME TO KILL OFF.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, UH, CITY MANAGER, UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM HERE, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION FOR 312,500.

WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE DESIGN PHASE AND I SAY REDESIGN AND REPAIR THE EXISTING ROOF, PARKING LOT MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING.

SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE DESIGN PHASE THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET, GET INFORMATION ON PREVIOUSLY IN THE FIRST, UH, AGREEMENT? SO I'M KIND OF LOST, LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DID WE, YOU STATED? AND I WROTE IT IN MY BOOK LAST THREE MONTHS AGO THAT WE WERE, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME THINGS THAT WE HAD TO DISCUSS.

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO REDESIGNED? AND IT'S THE SAME BUILDING, THE SAME MONIES THAT WE'VE PAID THAT YOU GUYS CAN PROVIDE TO THE NEXT MEETING COMES TO MIND.

IF I CLEARLY RECALL, UM, WHAT I INFORMED COUNSEL IS THAT I WOULD PROVIDE THEM WITH A CONSTRUCTIONS SCHEDULE WHEN THAT IS BEING DONE, THE CONSTRUCT.

AND I ASKED THE, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME TO REPEAT THAT THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, LET ME REITERATE, CAN ONLY BE PROVIDED WHEN A GENERAL CONTRACTOR IS CONTRACTED THE PURCHASING MANAGER JUST INFORMED YOU.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE ON THE 29TH OF THIS ONE WHEN THE BIDS ARE OPEN, WELL ONLY THEN A CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE WILL BE PROVIDED, RIGHT.

AND YOU SAID THAT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO, SO I'M FAXING A DAY.

SO WHAT DID WE DO PREVIOUSLY BEFORE TO THREE, FOUR MONTHS WHEN I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONSTRUCTION PHASING.

I GOT THAT.

I, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING.

I'M SAYING, WHAT DID WE DO BEFORE I ASKED THE QUESTION THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE SAME DESIGN PHASE, THE SURVEYS, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE DONE IN THE BEGINNING PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION? WELL, THIS IS THIS, THIS IS A, A REHAB OF A BUILDING.

THERE'S NO NEED FOR US TO BE.

SO THAT, THAT PART OF IT IS OUT WHAT WE HAD TO DO.

WE HAD TO DO A PHYSICAL ASSESSMENT OF THE BUILDING.

UM, WE HAD TO, TO, UM, UH, GO THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT OF THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE.

WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THE BUILDING HAD TO BE PROCURED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR LOCAL PROCUREMENT, AS WELL AS, UM, FEDERAL PROCUREMENT AS WELL.

SO THAT TOOK TIME.

WE HAD, WE, WE, WE, ALEX COUNCIL ALSO ALLOCATED $2 MILLION FROM ARROW MONEY FOR, FOR THE, UM, SETTING UP OF A VACCINATION CENTER, WHICH IS PART OF THE DELAY IS IT'S COMING TO ME RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS PART OF THE LEAD THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED BECAUSE WHEN THE PROJECT WAS FIRST CONCEIVED, THE VACCINATION CENTER WAS NEVER PART AND DESIGN OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

WE ONLY DID THAT WHEN WE RECEIVED $26.7 MILLION IN IRA MONEY, PART OF EACH, WHICH HAD TO GO TOWARDS COVID.

AND SO, UM, IN DISCUSSION WITH STAFF AND IN DISCUSSION WITH THE DIRECTOR OF HEALTH, ONE OF THE NEEDS WAS FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A VACCINATION CENTER

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AS PART OF THE BUILDING, SINCE WE DID HAVE THE AVAILABLE SPACE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE DELAY AS WELL, BUT WE'LL PUT THAT IN WRITING.

WE'LL PUT THAT IN WRITING AS WELL.

AND IF I CAN PROVIDE SOME CLARITY, UM, WITH THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, WE REALLY JUST TRIED TO GO BACK AND TELL THE STORY.

UM, IN REGARDS TO THE REDESIGN AND REPAIRS, IT WAS JUST REFERENCED THAT ON AUGUST 3RD, 2021, THIS IS WHEN CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE RESOLUTION TO ALLOW SIGMA ENGINEERS FOR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND ENGINEERING OF THE HEALTH FACILITY MOVING FORWARD.

UM, THAT CONTRACT EXPIRED ON DECEMBER 10TH, 2021, BUT COUNCIL DID GO BACK AND APPROVE A RESOLUTION IN JANUARY OF 2022, UM, GRANTING SIGMA ENGINEERS, THE CONTRACT TO THEN GO BACK AND DESIGN THE COVID VACCINATION CLINIC.

UM, WE DID DO PRE-BID MEETINGS WHERE SIGMA WAS INVOLVED ON JUNE THE FIFTH OF 2022.

AND AS THE PURCHASING MANAGER, UM, JUST BROUGHT UP ON JUNE THE 29TH IS WHEN WE WILL DO BID OPENINGS AROUND 3:15 PM IS WHEN THE READING WOULD TAKE PLACE.

UM, BUT THE CONTRACT THAT IS ON THE AGENDA, UM, PR NUMBER 2, 2, 5, 1 9 IT'S FOR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.

SO ONCE THAT CONTRACTOR IS APPROVED OR THE BIDS, WE ACCEPT THE BIDS, REVIEW THE BEADS AND BRING THAT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

FOR THAT CONTRACTOR, THIS RESOLUTION ALLOWS SIGMA ENGINEERS TO ASK ON THE CITY'S BEHALF TO PROVIDE CONTRACT CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR AT WORK TO ACTUALLY BEGIN WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND SO THE DECISION WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SIGMA ENGINEERS, BY THEM BEING THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER OF THIS PROJECT, THEY WOULD BE THE MOST WELL-VERSED IN WHAT THESE REQUIREMENTS MATERIALS.

AND SO FOURTH WOULD BE NEEDED IN ORDER TO COMPLETE IT, HOPEFULLY IN A TIMELY MANNER, ESPECIALLY SEEING THAT WE'VE BEEN EXTENDED AN ADDITIONAL 12 MONTHS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY, THANK YOU, PAM AND B, BEFORE I CONTINUE, UH, WHEN WE PREVIOUSLY WAS GIVEN THIS, THIS OPTION TO MOVE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OUT THERE, WHO WAS THE ENGINEER FIRM THAT WAS GOING TO BE DOING THE DESIGN PHASE SURVEYS AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE WERE TOLD 18 MONTHS AGO, WHAT, WHAT COMPANY WAS THAT? MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE TO MOVE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND ARCHITECT ENGINEER HAD NOT BEEN DECIDED AT THAT TIME? WHAT, WHY, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHY WAS IT, IT R WHAT TOOK SO LONG OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE CASE BACK THEN? BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T, THAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WHEN YOU'RE GETTING INTO A, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION REHAB, YOU WANT TO HAVE THOSE THINGS TAKEN CARE OF IN THE BEGINNING.

RIGHT? UM, I COULD ONLY ASSUME, UM, I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE INITIAL DISCUSSIONS AS IT RELATED TO THE PORT OUT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, BUT SIMILAR TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS THE FUNDING WAS NOT APPROVED UNTIL WE DID THE CERTIFICATE CERTIFICATES OF APPLICATION, WHICH WAS IN 2021 ONLY THEN COULD WE MOVE FORWARD? IT PROCURING ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS FOR OUR DESIGN, ONCE THE FUNDING WAS IN PLACE.

SO THE DISCUSSIONS MAY HAVE BEEN HAD PRIOR TO THE FUNDING, BUT WHEN THE FUNDING WAS APPROVED UNDER CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, THAT'S WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD IN PROCURING ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THESE PROJECTS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.

NO, I'M GOOD.

GOOD.

OKAY.

UH, ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS ON THIS NOW? ANY WE'RE READY TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSES I HAD IT.

SO IT IS AUDIT NEXT WE HAVE ON THAT NEXT

[VIII.A.2. P. R. No. 22613 — A Resolution Appointing And/ Or Reappointing A Director Or Directors To The City Of Port Arthur Section 4A Economic Development Corporation ( Requested By Councilmember Jones)]

WE HAVE PR NUMBER 22 6 1 3, A RESOLUTION APPOINTING, AND OUR REAPPOINTED I DIRECTOR, OR A DIRECTOR, EXCUSE ME, ALL DIRECTORS TO THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR, UH, SECTION FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COOPERATION.

THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER JONES.

UH, SO YOU SAID YOU HAVE A NAME? YES, SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER JONES IS REAPPOINTING BEVERLY FRANK, RAYMOND.

OKAY.

WE ARE MAKING A MOTION.

UH, YEAH.

UH, OKAY.

UH, MS. RAYMOND.

OKAY.

WE READY FOR A MOTION OR COUNCILMAN? UH, KAYLA.

OKAY.

GET A SECOND COWS IN THE MARKET.

IT'S BEEN MOVED A SECOND EVERY WEEK, UH, EXCEPT PR NUMBER 22 6 1 3, WITH THE NAME OF MS. BEVERLY, UH, RAYMOND, UH, INSERTED AS THE APPOINTEE OF, UH, COUNCILMAN JONES.

WE READ FOR THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? NAY AYES HAVE IT.

SO AS WE ACCEPT THE APPOINTMENT

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IN PR NUMBER 22 6 1 3, NOW

[VIII.B.1. P. O. No. 7070 — An Ordinance Authorizing The Sale Of Surplus Heavy Equipment By A Public Online Auction Through Rene Bates Auctioneers, Inc.]

WE HAVE A PO NUMBER 7 0 7 0 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF SURPLUS HEAVY EQUIPMENT BY A PUBLIC ONLINE AUCTION THROUGH RENEE BATES.

AUCTIONEER'S INCORPORATED.

MAY I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? COUNCILMAN FRANK.

OKAY.

MAY GET A SECOND COUNCIL WOMAN.

UH, MOSES IS REMOVED.

AND SECOND THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT P O NUMBER 7, 0 7 0 RED.

IF THE QUESTION WAS TO GO RIGHT HERE TO COUNCILMAN JONES, OKAY.

CURIOSITY, STUDENT MANAGEMENT, WHAT IS A SURPLUS HEAVY EQUIPMENT? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU SEE WHATEVER EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE NOT USING THAT HAS BECOME DIALECT THAT, UM, WE NEED TO DO AWAY WITH? OKAY.

WHO'S BUYING AND STUFF.

UH, IT, IT NORMALLY GOES THROUGH AN OXFORD COMPANY AND RENEE BATES IS THE AUCTION COMPANY THAT, UM, THE COUNSELORS VOTED UPON.

GO AHEAD.

UM, BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS ANY, UH, HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE.

WE CAN'T JUST GET RID OF IT A THIRD AWAY.

WE HAVE TO AUCTION IT OFF.

SO DEPARTMENTS THAT HAD SNOW WAS OBSOLETE, THEN WE SENT IT OFF TO BE AUCTION.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S JUST TWO ITEMS. THAT'S IN THE GARAGE THAT THEY WANT TO GET OUT OF THERE.

CAUSE THAT'S WHAT STUFF THEY WANT TO DO.

SO WE TRYING TO EXPEDITE IT BY JUST GETTING RID OF THOSE TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT SO THEY CAN GET GOING, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, WHICH IS A OLD GENERATOR.

AND, UH, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE OTHER ITEM IS ON IT.

WE HAVE IT LISTED ON THERE.

IT'S TWO ITEMS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE.

WELL, WHILE WE TALK ABOUT, UH, WHO HAS MORE BUSES GOT BLURRED OUT, HURRICANE HARVEY, OLD BUSES AND OLD TRUCKS YESTERDAY.

NOW WE HAD A SERVICE CENTER AND YOU HAVE TO BE OFTEN THAT STEP OFF YET THOUGH.

WAS THE AUCTION OFF A LARGE AMOUNT OF IT? I WOULD SAY ABOUT 85%.

I THINK THERE WAS A FEW OF THAT STILL THERE DUE TO SOME TML ISSUES.

UM, WE STILL TRYING TO GET STRAIGHTENED OUT, UH, BUT I'D SAY ABOUT 85% IS GONE.

CO-OP SO WE HAVE ABOUT 500 JUNK CALLS, PROPER, NO TACO BELL.

WHAT ABOUT THE JUNK COST TALKING TO THE SERVICE CENTER? WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THEM? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JOHN CARS? THEY HAD A CITY OR SOME THAT RICK CALLS ARE AT YOU ARE COMPLICATED, PRETTY MUCH SERVICE CENTER, 200 JAIL CALLS OR MORE.

IT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.

SOME OF THOSE, UH, ONGOING, ACTIVE INVESTIGATIONS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE CANNOT DO AWAY WITH UNTIL THE FILES HAVE BEEN CLOSED, BUT THEY ARE CONSIDERED ONGOING, ACTIVE INVESTIGATION BY THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

THEY'VE BEEN THERE MORE THAN THAT.

SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN DEAD FOR 10 YEARS OR WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG.

YEAH.

SOME COURT CASES LAST A LONG TIME.

SO, BUT, BUT USUALLY ONCE, ONCE IT'S DONE THE POLICE, DIDN'T SEND IT TO STOCK OFF.

SO WE DO EVENTUALLY AUCTION OFF ONCE THE CASE IS DONE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

COUNCILMAN JONES.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, THE COURTS IS ON THIS.

WE'RE READY TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED AS HABITUDES ON APPEAL, NUMBER 7, 0 7 0 WILL BE ACCEPTED AS READ.

UH, I BELIEVE THE OTHER TWO ITEMS WE WERE ALREADY AT THE BOND, UH, RIGHT.

WE TABLED ONE AND WE HAVE ONE OTHER, I DIDN'T WRITE IT.

I DIDN'T MAKE A NOTE ON IT.

IF THEY HAD ANOTHER ITEM, 7 0 7 3.

DID WE ACT ON IT? YEAH, WE DID.

WE HAD GONE BOTH UP, BOTH LOCATED.

DIDN'T PASS.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

UH, WE ARE NOW READY TO GO INTO CLOSED, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION AND IN THE STROBES EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, AS REQUIRED BY, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY, MAYOR.

WE DO HAVE ONE MORE ORDINANCE

[VIII.B.4. P. O. No. 7075 — An Ordinance Extending The Declaration Of Disaster Pursuant To § 418. 108( b) Of The Texas Government Code]

FOR P OH 7 0 7 5.

WHICH, WHICH, WHICH ONE IS THAT? OH YEAH, IF I'M TAKING THAT 77.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

7 0 7 5 PO 7 0 7 5 9 IS EXTENDING THE DECLARATION OF DISASTER PURSUANT TO A FOUR 18.108.

SECTION B OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE P THE, EXCUSE ME FOR THAT, I MAY GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL COUNCILOR.

FRANK, LET ME GET A SECOND.

COSMIN MARKS HAS BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND, IF WE WOULD ACCEPT PO NUMBER 7, 0 7, 5 AS READ, WE ARE HAPPY TO QUESTIONS ON THIS 30 DAYS, 30 DAYS, 30 DAYS, 30 DAYS, SARAH.

I DON'T KNOW.

WE USED TO DO IT EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS, EVERY

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MEETING, AND THEN WE MOVED IT TO ONCE A MONTH.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO WITHDRAW IT COMPLETELY.

I KNOW Y'ALL AT TIMES WE WERE DOING IT FOR 30 DAYS.

ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE PROBABLY CAN TRY TO WITHDRAW IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YEP.

OKAY.

UH, SO WE READY TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? NAY AYES EPISODES AUDIT PO NUMBER 7, 0 7.

FIVE IS ACCEPTED AS RED.

NOW

[IX. * CLOSED MEETING ( EXECUTIVE SESSION)]

WE'RE READY TO MOVE INTO CLOSED MEETING EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WITH THE CRIME IT'S 65 5 1 0.101.

UH, THE, UH, CHAPTER 1 0 1 OPEN MEETINGS, LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, FORMALLY ARTICLE 62 52 DASH ONE SEVEN, SECTION 2 8 2 SUBSECTION EIGHT.

PRIOR TO GOING INTO THE MEETING, I BE IN THE PRESIDING OFFICER.

OH, IT SHOULD MEET THE FOLLOW MISSTATEMENTS.

WE WILL DISCUSS IN CLOSED SESSION, SECTION 5, 5, 1 0.071 AT THE GOVERNMENT COACH AT DISCUSSED AND RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING POTENTIAL AND OUR PENDING LITIGATION AND OTHER LEGAL MATTERS INVOLVING THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR.

WE'LL DISCUSS 5, 5, 1 0.07.

ONE OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE FOR ATTORNEY CONSULTATION TO PROVIDE ADVICE AND COUNSEL REGARDING COLLECTION OF FEES OWED TO THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR.

WE ALSO DISCUSSED SEX AND 5, 5, 1 0.072 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS A DELIBERATE, THE, UH, PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF PORT AUTHOR AND SECTION 5, 5, 1 0.087 OF THE GOVERNMENT GOES TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC INCENTIVES FOR COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, AND INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS PROSPECTS.

SO WE WILL NOW RETIRE TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS DOWNSTAIRS OR COUNCIL ROOM DOWNSTAIRS.

AND WE WILL RETURN IF THAT WOULD BE ITEMS FOR, UH, ACTION TO, AND ALSO TO ADJOURN CLOSE THE MEETING.

WE'LL RETURN TO CHAMBERS AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.

SO YES.

SO YOU MAY, WE MAY GET IT NOW.

THANK YOU.

AND WE'LL RETURN AS SOON AS WE COMPLETE THE, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.

OKAY.

WE'RE READY.

WE'RE READY.

UH, UH, W W WE ALLY? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE'RE BACK IN SESSION.

NOW, SECRETARY, WOULD YOUR AVERAGE MAYOR BAR TO PRESENT MAYOR PRO TEM HOMES, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES, COUNCIL MEMBER, KEN LAW, COUNCIL MEMBER MARKS, COUNCIL MEMBER, MOSES COUNCIL MEMBER.

FRANK.

YOU HAVE A CORE MAN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND OUR COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER HOLMES HAD TO GO TO A MEETING IN BOMA FOR, TO GET THE LIFE, UH, AND WE'RE GOING TO BENEFIT IF EVERYTHING HAPPENS WELL.

SO I TOLD HER SHE SHOULD, I CAN BEAT HIM ONCE.

HE TOLD ME THAT.

SO I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS COMING.

UH, ATTORNEY, AM I CORRECT FROM ZETA SESSION? SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AT THIS JUNCTURE IS WE WILL OFFER, UH, I'M READY TO TAKE A MOTION EXCEPT A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.

COUNCILMAN FRANK, MR. ED, BEFORE WE LEAVE, I WANT TO MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU WILL BE BEING SWORN IN ON TOMORROW AT 10 30.

AND SO I WOULD ASK ALL OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO JOIN ME HERE ON TOMORROW AND THOSE CITIZENS WHO WOULD CARE TO BE IN THE CHAMBER AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO EVERYONE IS INVITED AT 10 30 ALL WEDNESDAY MORNING.

UH, FATHER'S REVENUE FROM THE BEGINNING OF MY SECOND TERM.

THANK YOU.

ALL WENT ON HOLIDAY.

DIDN'T MINE OR WE'RE READY FOR QUESTION.

WE NEED MOTION.

I HAD THE MOST OF, SO NOW MAKE THE MOST MOTION, MR. MAN.

SECOND, UH, COSMIC MARKS.

HE DIDN'T MOVE.

AND SECOND THAT WE WOULD HAVE JOINED THIS MEETING, UH, WITH A QUESTION.

NOW I NEED ANY QUESTIONS, READ A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? NAY AYES HAVE IT.

SO HIS AUDIT, THIS MEETING IS NOW DULY A GIANT.

THANK YOU, GOD BLESS YOU.