Sep 07, 2021 Special City Council

THIRD ACTION ITEM PR NUMBER 2, 2 1 2 9.

ALL RIGHT, WE READY? READY TO VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSITION MOTION PASSES.

[Item II A.3. P. R. No. 22129 — A Resolution Reconsidering Proposed Resolution No. 22103, Authorizing The City Manager To Negotiate A Contract With Freese & Nichols, Inc. Of Pearland, Texas, For The Construction Phase Services Of The Main Wastewater Treatment Plant Rehabilitation Project Located At 6300 Procter Street Extension Requested By Mayor Pro Tem Frank)]

RESOLUTION RECONSIDERING PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER 2, 2 1 0 3, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS INCORPORATED A PEAR LAND PEAR LAND, TEXAS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES OF THE MAIN WATER WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT REHABILITATION PROJECT LOCATED AT 6 3 0 0 PROCTOR STREET EXTENSION REQUESTED BY MAYOR PRO TEM.

FRANK, DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION BY COUNCIL WOMAN HOMES? SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN MOSES, I WILL ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

THIS WAS, UH, BROUGHT TO US LAST, UM, MEETING AND WE HAVE PLACED IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.

THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS, UH, THAT WE WANTED TO ASK, UH, CONCERNING, UH, THE PROPOSAL.

AND SO AFTER GETTING SOME INFORMATION, UH, ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES OF, UM, OF THE PROCESS BY WHICH WE WENT THROUGH, UH, I FEEL REASONABLY CERTAIN THAT WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND THAT WE CAN GO FORWARD, UH, IN PASSING THIS PROPOSAL.

SO I HAD IT RE PUT BACK, UH, ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I WAS ON THE PREVAILING SIDE AND, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK.

AND SO IT HAS BEEN PLACED BACK ON THE AGENDA ON TODAY AND WE'RE GOING TO SEEK TO GO FORWARD AS WELL.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

YES, MA'AM RIGHT QUICK.

UH, I HAD SOME CONCERN IN THE PAST.

I STILL HAVE SOME NOW, BUT I'M, UH, I'M READY TO REST, YOU KNOW, WHAT NO PRESENTATION MADE BY ANY OF THE COMPANY AND, UH, SOME PEOPLES OR THE SCHOOL COMMITTEE WAS, UH, IT MIGHT'VE HAD SOME PROBABLY FUTURE AGENDA.

WHY DO YOU KNOW THE WAY TO SCHOOL AND WAS, UH, WAS HANDLED AND IT WASN'T, THIS COMPANY HAD NO MINORITY PARTICIPATION.

UH, I WAS TOLD WITH A CONCERN I HAD, BUT, UH, IF YOU ALL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, THAT'S GOOD.

I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW? WELL, I HAD THOSE CONCERNS AS WELL.

UM, I DID TALK TO OUR, UH, ATTORNEY ABOUT THOSE ISSUES AND ABOUT MINORITY PARTICIPATION.

UH, AND WE ARE, UM, WE ARE HELD TO A STRICT STANDARD GOVERNMENTALLY BY THE STATE OF TEXAS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO AS WE CONSIDER CONTRACTS AND ABOUT MINORITY PARTICIPATION.

AND SO WE DO WANT MINORITY PARTICIPATION IN ALL THAT WE CAN LEGALLY, UH, PUT FORWARD.

UH,

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BUT THERE IS A, THERE IS A LIMIT TO WHAT WE CAN MANDATE AS WE GO FORWARD PER MY, UM, COMMUNICATIONS WITH, UH, THE CITY SECRETARY.

I'M SORRY, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER ABOUT THAT.

SO, UH, AND IF SHE WOULD CHOOSE TO ELABORATE, NOW SHE CAN, BUT, UH, YEAH.

WELL, HOLD ON.

YOU CAN CONSIDER HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES.

BECAUSE I WAS DOING, AND IN THE FUTURE, I WISH WOULD HAVE, UH, MO MORE PEOPLE THAT'S WANTS TO BE WITH HIS JOB KIND OF PRESENTATION IN THE FUTURE AND NEED TO COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF INPUT ON WHAT'S GOING ON FOR THE, IN THE SCORING PROCESS GOES ON, YOU KNOW, SCORING WENT DOWN AND GOT ME A RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS COMPANY BECAUSE THE CUSTOMER HAD NO KNIVES TO AFTERWARDS.

YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU DO, WHICH CAUSED ME TO GO INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, UH, SEE SOME MORE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE IN THE SCORE AND GO DOWN, GO TAKE PLACE.

OKAY, COOL.

HEY MAN.

WELL, I THINK HENRY AND I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? AFTER I HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH THE, UM, WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, SHE DID TELL ME THAT DURING THE PROCESS, IT IS MANDATED THAT, UM, HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES ARE CONTACTED.

I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THREE OF THEM, THREE OF THEM.

I THINK ABOUT YOU, YOU CAN ELABORATE ON IT, ELABORATE UNDER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

IF YOU'RE IN A BID PROCESS.

IF THE BID PROCESS IS FOR A CONTRACT, LESS THAN $50,000, THIS WAS NOT A CONTEMPORARY BID PROCESS.

THIS WAS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

AND SO THE PROCESS THAT THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR USE IS COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

SO WE SEND OUT AN RFQ STATING WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR OF A PROFESSIONAL THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM A BID WHERE YOU GET THE LOW BIDDER AND SO FORTH.

SO WE, WE ARE PROCESSING, I GUESS, PURCHASING WOULD BE BETTER.

UH, THEY'RE NOT HERE, BUT IF PURCHASING COULD EXPLAIN IT, IT WOULD BE BETTER, BUT THIS WAS JUST A STANDARD REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

WE HA WE COME UP WITH THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

WE STATE WHAT THE SCORING CRITERIA IS, AND THE CITY HAS A COMMITTEE THAT DOES SO IN SCORES IT, AND THIS IS VERBATIM FROM THE CODE.

SO, UM, IN THE EVENT, THE COUNCIL WANTS TO PUT IN SOME TYPE OF ADDITIONAL PROCESS WHERE YOU CAN CONSIDER OTHER THINGS.

THERE ARE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POINTS THAT CAN BE GIVEN, BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR THAT.

UM, IT WOULD NOT, THERE'S NO LEGAL PREFERENCE THAT IS GIVEN UNDER THE LAW, BUT THERE IS A SCORING SYSTEM THAT CAN BE PUT IN PLACE, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PROCESS.

SO THIS FALLS SQUARELY UNDER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

AND, UM, JUST WHAT WE NORMALLY DO.

BUT IF THERE IS AN INTEREST IN PUTTING A PROCESS TOGETHER, I COULD CERTAINLY, UM, HAVE A WORKSHOP WHERE, UH, THEY COULD SAY THERE ARE SOME CITIES, FOR EXAMPLE, FORT WORTH THAT HAVE A PROCESS, BUT IT STARTS WITH AN ORDINANCE AND THEN YOU GET POINTS.

AND THEN WE COULD CERTAINLY HAVE A WORKSHOP IN SEEING ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN PLACE WHERE YOU CAN GIVE POINTS.

LET ME ASK ONE MORE QUESTION VAN.

UM, CAUSE I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT IT.

DO WHEN THERE IS A BIDDING PROCESS, DO AND AFTER YOU HAVE THE, UM, THE THREE TOP INDIVIDUALS COME THROUGH THAT BUSINESS, THAT BIDDING PROCESS IS THERE OR IS THERE, OR HAS THERE EVER BEEN A TIME WHERE ALL THREE OF THEM MAKE A PRESENTATION BEFORE COUNCIL? NOW COUNSEL HAS TO LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATION AS SET FORTH IN THE CODE.

YOU HAVE.

OUR PROCESS IS THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T GET INTO THE SCORING.

THE SCORING IS BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WAS ADVERTISED AND THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MANAGEMENT TEAM PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT SCORE IT.

YOU KNOW, USUALLY THAT'S HEADED UP BY PURCHASING AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS AND THEY SCORE IT ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA.

AND THAT SHEET IS IN THE RFQ.

AND IF COUNSEL IS DISSATISFIED WITH THAT, THEN THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHATEVER THE LEVEL OF DISCOUNT SATISFACTION IS ON THE SCORING.

UH, WHY DID THIS PERSON GET A 20 WIDE? AND THIS PERSON GET A FIVE, BUT THEY, THEY DON'T COUNCIL DOESN'T GET INVOLVED IN THE SCORING IN ANY WAY.

IF YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, THEN YOU REJECT THE RESOLUTION AND IT IS REBID WITH, WITH THE PROPER CRITERIA.

SO IT, BUT THE COUNCIL DOESN'T GET INTO THE INTERVIEWS OR THE SCORING OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S MY CONCERNS.

WHY SOME GOT 21 LAUGHS SOME GET FIVE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ASK THAT QUESTION, RIGHT? IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OF THE COMMITTEE,

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YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SUBMIT THOSE QUESTIONS TO THE MANAGER, BUT THE QUESTIONS HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, GERMANE TO THE TEAM WAS MADE UP OF THE CITY MANAGER AND WHO ELSE? WELL, YOU COULD JUST SPEAK WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND SUBMIT YOUR QUESTIONS TO HIM TO MAKE UP WHO MADE THE COMMITTEE THAT I WOULD NOT KNOW.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE UNDER THE CITY, THE CITY MANAGER'S NOT HERE ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE COMMITTEE CAME ABOUT.

USUALLY PURCHASING IS INVOLVED IN THAT, THAT INFORMATION WOULDN'T COME FROM ME.

MAYBE MR. UH, MR. WILLIAMS WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER TO ANSWER THAT.

I'M JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU THE LAW, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING PARTICULAR ABOUT HOW THIS CAME ABOUT.

UH, MAY I SAY, I THINK COUNSEL AND MOST PROCESSES YOU DO HAVE, IT DEPENDS ON AS ENGINEER AND IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE RFQ IS.

WE TRY TO GET THE BEST QUALIFIED PEOPLE ON OUR TEAM TO REVIEW THESE APPLICATIONS OR REVIEW THESE PROPOSALS.

AND FROM THAT, THAT'S WHEN THE SCORING IS RANKED BASED ON WHAT THEY HEAR IN THE PRESENTATION.

AND THEN THEY BREAK THAT RECOMMENDATION TO MR. BURTON TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR, TO NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT.

BUT IT'S USUALLY DONE BASED ON A TEAM OF MANAGERS.

AND THEN FROM THERE, WE'D GO THROUGH THE PROCESS BASED ON THE SCOPE THAT WAS PRESENTED AND THEN ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THE TEAM SCORE AND THEN BRING THAT TO THE MANAGER FOR A RECOMMENDATION.

AND THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN PUT IN PLACE HERE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TIM.

SO, UH, MADAM ATTORNEY, ARE YOU SAYING THAT, UH, WHEN THEY COME WITH THEIR SCORING PROCESS MATRIX, ARE YOU THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THAT? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY, I DON'T, I DON'T LOOK AT THAT.

I LOOK AT THE LAW AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES SET FORTH IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE OF WHAT'S NEEDED FOR AN RFQ, BUT I DON'T LOOK AT THE SCORE.

AND NOW THAT THAT INFORMATION IS PART OF THE RESOLUTION FOR COUNCIL TO EVALUATE.

SO THERE IS A MATRIX THAT IS A PART OF THIS RESOLUTION.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MATRIX, THEN THAT IS NOW WHEN THIS ITEM, WHEN ITEMS ARE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU, THEN YOU CAN ASK ABOUT THAT AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE REASONING OR HOW WAS THIS SCORED THAT THOSE ARE THINGS FOR COUNCIL TO DECIDE.

SO IF SOMEBODY GOT A ONE AND SOMEBODY GOT A THREE, OF COURSE, THOSE QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED, UH, IN LIKE A SENTENCE THAT'S ANSWERED BY THE COMMITTEE, OR IS THAT ANSWER BY, UM, MR. WILLIAMS? WHO, WHO, WHO PROVIDES THAT INFORMATION WHEN THE SCORING PROCESS IS DONE AND A COUNCIL MEMBER MAY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT WITHOUT REJECTING THE WHOLE THING AND WANTING TO GET INFORMATIONS ON THE TOP THREE AND HOW THEY WERE IN ORDER OF MERIT LIST.

SO WHO WOULD IT BE THAT PERSON AND WHAT TIME WOULD WE BE ABLE TO ASK THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS IN THE FUTURE? WELL, UH, WHEN THE ITEM IS POSTED, I THINK THE APPROPRIATE TIME WOULD THEN BE TO TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT CONCERNS HAVE ABOUT THAT OR ANY, UM, ANY RESOLUTION THAT COMES BEFORE YOU.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY CAN BE PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT AT THE MEETING, YOU CAN ASK IT BEFORE THE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ASK THE MANAGER AND THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SUBMIT SOMETHING TO YOU EXPLAINING, OR THEY CAN BE PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AT THE MEETING.

SO YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS.

BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT IT WAS WHEN YOU, AFTER YOU REVIEWED THE RESOLUTION AND YOU HAVE CONCERNS, SUBMIT THOSE QUESTIONS TO THE MANAGER AND THEY CAN EITHER DO IT BEFORE OR AFTER THE MEETING OR DURING THE MEETING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

MAKE A COMMENT REAL QUICK MILLET.

YES, COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN MOSES.

AND COUNSEL, WE CAN MOVE ON.

I PROMISE IF WE WAS IN A COURT OF LAW AND THE HEAD GUY ON A JURY THAT WAS MAKING THE DECISION, THAT KIND OF DECISION, AND THAT WAS HIS DEPARTMENT.

THAT WOULD BE A MISTRIAL AND PUT THAT WAY.

WE GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S WORKED AT THIS PART OF THE SCHOOLING AND SUPERVISION OVER WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT.

HE WAS PART OF THE SCORING PROCESS THAT HAD BEEN IN THE COURT AND THEY CALL IT A LAW.

IT HAD BEEN A MISTRIAL COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM.

UM, I THINK THAT THERE WAS, UH, SOMETHING MENTIONED THAT BASICALLY AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T SEE EVERYTHING.

WE'RE NOT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS AT ALL, UNTIL IT COMES TO US IN A RESOLUTION.

AM I CORRECT? WE WOULD SEE, I MEAN, WE WOULD SEE THE AGENDA ITEM POSTED ON THEIR AGENDA.

AND THEN THAT, THAT ITEM WOULD THEN OF COURSE, ON A FRIDAY THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND, WE CAN DEVELOP OUR QUESTIONS AND ASK THEM TO THE MANAGER AND FORMULATE THEM AND GET SOME TYPE OF RESPONSE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.

SO THERE'S NO WAY PRIOR TO, AND WE SHOULDN'T AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, ETHICALLY WE SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED

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IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, PROCUREMENTS OR, UH, INVOLVED IN SCORING OR INVOLVED IN ASKING AS COUNCIL MEMBERS BE CAREFUL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVE.

UM, WE, WE, WE NEED TO BE, UM, VERY COGNIZANT NOT TO GET PULLED INTO SOMETHING, UM, THAT MAY BE ILLEGAL.

WE NEED TO REMAIN OUTSIDE OF THE REALM OF LETTING THE CITY, THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND THOSE POWERS THAT BE WORK THE SYSTEM.

AND WE WORK AT ACCORDINGLY WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND THOSE THAT WE HAVE TO RESPECT THEIR JOBS TO DO.

WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL AND WE'D, I DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN SCORING.

I DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN LOOKING AT THE SCORES.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT UNTIL IT COMES TO US IN THE PROPER MANNER AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR ETHICS CHECKED, TO BE SURE OF HOW WE ARE HANDLING THINGS AND HOW W WHAT INFORMATION IS GIVEN TO US, HOW WE, THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.

WE JUST NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW FAR WE GO, CITY ATTORNEY.

I JUST WANT IT TO STAY ANY RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING MAYBE LIKE A WORKSHOP AND KIND OF GO OVER TO ANY TIME YOU SEE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA.

YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS.

IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TABLE IT, BUT IT HAS TO GET ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTION, YOU KNOW, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE STAFF CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WAIT TILL HE GETS ON THE AGENDA.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, IF COUNCIL'S DISSATISFIED WITH ANY RESOLUTION, YOU CAN MOVE ON IT IN THE WAY YOU SEE FIT AFTER YOU GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

COUNCILMAN MARKS, UM, JUST, UH, I NOTICED THAT, UH, OUR PURCHASING, UH, PROFESSIONALS HERE, COULD WE JUST GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS PROCESS WAS AND HOW WE WENT THROUGH TO SCORE THE, UH, THE FINALIST SO THAT WE CAN GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF, OF WHAT TRANSPIRED DURING THIS, DURING THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS.

IT'S A PIECE IN THERE.

IF HE'S IN THE ROOM, HE HAVE HIM COME UP AND BE OF EXPLAINING, AGAIN, LIKE VAL SAID, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING FORWARD THAT THE COUNCIL IS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, OR IS PROCESSES, PROCEDURES, GIVE US THAT FEEDBACK.

SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO SET UP SOMETHING FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE.

GOING FORWARD.

WE KNOW THIS FISCAL YEAR IS ABOUT TO COME TO AN END, THIS TO START THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.

LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET ALL THOSE CONCERNS ADDRESS GOING INTO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR AND MAYBE GOING FORWARD WITH ALL THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE FOR THE BIG PROJECTS.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO WHERE YOU HAVE THE ULTIMATE, UH, COMFORT, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR YOU.

GOOD MORNING.

WE'RE READY.

GO TO HIM? QUICK QUESTION, UH, CLIFF, I GUESS YOU SAID SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE NEW KIND OF INDUSTRY PARTNERS WHEN THAT COMMUNITY, OKAY.

UM, THANKS FOR THE, THE PROCESS, THIS WINES, UH, THEY DECIDED THEY WANT TO GO OUT FOR BED OR IN THIS CASE, RFQ, UH, FOR A PROJECT, UM, I GAVE IT TO THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY WANT.

THEN WE COME UP WITH A CRITERIA THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE TO EVALUATE EXAMPLES, PAST EXPERIENCE, PAST FEDERAL EXPERIENCE, IF IT'S FEDERAL REQUIRED, THINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN WE SET UP THOSE EVALUATION CRITERIA, WHICH IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, THE SOME RELATION SHEET UP THE SCORE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE ITEMS THAT WERE REVIEWED ON.

SO ONCE WE SENT OUT THAT RFQ AND THEY SUBMIT THEIR, UH, QUALIFICATIONS BACK TO US, WE SUBMIT A COMMITTEE.

IT COULD BE A COMMITTEE OF THREE, FIVE.

I JUST LIKE TO KEEP IT AS A, UH, ODD NUMBER, BUT, UH, GENERALLY DO THREE OR FIVE DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT.

UH, ONCE WE GET THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WE DECIDE GOING TO BE ON THERE, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I GAVE IT TO YOU LONDA TO GET WHAT THEY GIVE THEM THE PACKET SO THEY CAN VIEW, GET A TIME TO GET IT BACK.

AND ONCE THEY SUBMIT THEIR SCORING BACK, WE WOULD TOTAL IT UP, DEPENDING ON WHO, ON THE COMMITTEE, WHETHER THEY'VE DONE IT BEFORE, OR ARE THEY NEW, IF THEY'RE NEW, THEN WE GENERALLY HAVE KIND OF A, A SESSION WHERE WE EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, HOW TO EVALUATE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IF IT'S PEOPLE THAT'S BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE BEFORE, WE DON'T GO THROUGH ALL THAT.

CAUSE THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND.

SO WE JUST GIVE THEM THE PACKETS TO GO REVIEW.

UM, AND WHEN WE GET IT BACK, WE DO THE SCORING.

IF WE SEE SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER LIKE REALLY OUT OF POCKET, AS FAR AS GOING, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE GAVE HIM A TEAM, BUT ONE PERSON GAVE HIM A ONE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE REAL, CRAZY LIKE THAT, WHERE WE WANT TO GET AN EXPLANATION FROM THEM ON, WHY'S SUCH A DISK, A DIFFERENCE.

YOU KNOW, WE KNOW EVERYBODY DON'T THINK THE SAME, BUT THAT'S PRETTY DRASTIC.

SO WE TRY TO LOOK AT STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THEN ONCE THE TOLL IS UP, WE GIVE THEM THE TOTALS AND THEN THEY RECOMMEND THE PERSON WHO HAS THE HIGHEST TOTAL.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PROCESS.

MAY I

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MICHAEL SAID TO THE COUNSELOR IN THE FUTURE, WHY WOULD I HELP CONSULTANT OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS CONSULTANT, LOOK AT THESE BIG CONTRACTS ARE STILL IN THE SPIRIT.

PEOPLE THAT HAVE NEVER DONE DONE SAY BEFORE, BIG THOSE KIND OF BIG DECISIONS.

WHILE WE GETTING STEP PEOPLE IN THE CITY, ON THE CITY STAFF TO MAKE THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT MAGNITUDE TO HAVE TIES TO CONSULTANT, TO COME IN AND CONSULT AND LIGO THESE BIG CONTRACTORS AS IF WE'D HAD A CITY MANAGER OR SOMEBODY TO HELP SOMEBODY IN THAT CASE, LET'S GET SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OF SORT OF LOOK AT THIS THING AT THESE BIG CONTRACTS.

THERE'S SOMEBODY ON STAFF IN THIS APPEARANCE.

I GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS PROBLEM.

I THINK WE WERE CONTRACT SOMEBODY THAT CONSULTANTS LOOK AT HIS CAR, BIG COCKED BACK IN THE FUTURE.

DIDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY ON STAFF AND DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO DO THESE THINGS.

WELL, THE REASON WE GET SOMEBODY IS BECAUSE GENERALLY A DEPARTMENT KNOWS WHAT THEY WANT FROM SOMEBODY TO DO SOMETHING.

I MEAN, WHEN WE GET AN ENGINEER, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WANT THE ENGINEER TO DO.

SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST GETTING THESE PARTICULAR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO EVALUATE THEM, TO SEE IF THESE PEOPLE HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE WANT THEM TO GET.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF I'M IN TRANSIT AND I KNOW IT'S, I NEED SOMEBODY TO DO A PARTICULAR TRANSIT THING.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

I KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IN SOMEONE.

SO WE ALLOW THOSE PEOPLE TO EVALUATE THEM TO SAY, THIS IS A PERSON I FEEL IS MOST QUALIFIED TO GIVE ME WHAT I NEED.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THE LOGIC THAT WE'RE USING.

AS I'VE SEEN BEFORE, CONTRACTED IS MAGNITUDE IN THE SPRING WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE SCREENS TO MAKE THE DECISION.

I THINK WITH THE COUNCIL TO GET, TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT HAVING A CONSULTANT, YOU BIG CONTRACTS, GETTING BIG CONTRACTS WITH INDEPENDENT STORES, NOT PEOPLE ON STAFF.

I MEAN, I COULD BE ON STAFF AND KNOW SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW WHY HE'S CONTRACTED IN NEW YORK CITY, SOMEBODY UP AUSTIN AND HAVE MADE THE SCENE.

I THINK I WOULD GET AN INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT AGAIN, HE'S GONE TRACKING, MAY I HAVE ONE QUESTION TO THAT THOUGH, IF WE DO THAT, WE STILL GONNA HAVE TO PICK THAT CONSULTANT.

IT'S THE SAME LOGIC.

SOMEBODY IN THE STAFF WON'T HAVE TO PICK THE CONSULTANT TO PICK THE CONSULTANTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TOO, BUT THAT CONSULTANT, WE HAVE THIS APPEARANCE, YOU KNOW, WE TO GET SOMEBODY TO SPEAK SO THAT NOBODY'S PROJECTS, NOT JUST SOMEBODY THAT, AND HE SAY, DON'T HAVE NO SPREADS AT ALL.

NOBODY KNEW THAT WE DO IT NOW.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE COUNCIL DECISION.

I'LL SEE THE MANAGER'S DECISION, BUT OKAY.

LET ME JUST SAY FINALLY, UM, I THINK THAT, UH, ONE OF THE REMEDIES, UH, SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON CITY COUNCIL, ONE OF THE REMEDIES, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP, UH, ALL OF THIS HAPPENED IN TRANSPIRES.

IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR, UH, BOARD BOOKLETS EARLIER, AND I'VE BEEN A PROPONENT OF THAT SINCE I GOT ON COUNCIL, UH, WE GET THEM ON FRIDAY NIGHTS AND THEN WE'RE DONE WITH CALL TO LOOK OVER ALL OF THIS INFORMATION OVER THE WEEKEND.

UH, AND WE HAVE BUSY WEEKENDS.

UH, AND THEN WE ARE ABLE, GIVEN THAT MONDAY TO GET ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS IN, UH, CONCERNING ALL OF THESE, UH, RESOLUTIONS AND ITEMS. SO I'M GOING TO, I THINK AS LONG AS I'M ON THE COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO PERPETUALLY SHOOT FOR, UH, GETTING ALL OF OUR BOARD INFORMATION EARLIER SO THAT WE CAN PERUSE IT AND THEN FORMULATE OUR QUESTIONS PROBABLY BEGINNING ON FRIDAY.

UH, AND THEN OVER THE WEEKEND AND MONDAY THAT WOULD GIVE US TWO BUSINESS DAYS ON FRIDAY AND MONDAY TO FORMULATE QUESTIONS AND TO GET THEM ANSWERED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR THAT.

I'M ONLY ONE, UH, COUNT ONLY ONE BOARD MEMBER, UH, ONE COUNCIL MEMBER.

BUT I THINK THAT WOULD GREATLY, GREATLY HELP US AS WE TRIED TO DELIBERATE, UH, PERUSE AND LOOK OVER ALL OF THIS, FORMULATE OUR QUESTIONS, GET THEM IN TO STAFF SO THAT WE CAN BE BETTER PREPARED AS WE CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO ALWAYS BE SUGGESTING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ACCOMPLISH THAT.

STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO HELP US WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD GREATLY HELP US AND BE BENEFICIAL FOR US.

SO I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR A VOTE.

UH, AFTER THAT STATEMENT ON TODAY, I DIDN'T WANT IT TO ELABORATE ONE VERY MINOR

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POINT.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT I STATED ABOUT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHENEVER YOU'RE HIRING A PROFESSIONAL, AN ARCHITECT, AN ENGINEER, A LAND SURVEYOR, WE ALSO HAVE A SECOND LAW TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION, WHICH IS 2254 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH WALKS THE CITY.

STEP-BY-STEP HOW TO DO THAT.

SO I'LL BE ALSO JUST THROWING IN HAPPY TO HAVE A WORK, CONDUCT, A WORKSHOP, SO THAT WE'LL BE CLEAR ON WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

ALL QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

SO CLEAR.

WELL, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTIONS? ANY OPPOSITION? ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE ONE ABSTENTION.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOLMES.

COUNCIL MEMBER JONES.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

KEN LAW.

COUNCIL MEMBER MARKS.

COUNCIL MEMBER MOSES MEASURE PESTS.

WE'LL GO INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE AND CONSIDER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ALL INTERESTED CITIZENS.

[Item III.1. To Receive And Consider Public Comment( s) For All Interested Citizens With Regard To The City Of Port Arthur' s Proposed Tax Rate For The 2021 Tax Year]

WITH REGARD TO THE CITY OF PORT AUTHOR'S PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR THE 2021 TAX YEAR, A RATE OF 0.7 4 0 7 1 5 PER $100 VALUATION HAS BEEN PROPOSED BY THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF PORT AUTHOR PROPOSED TAX RATE, UH, 0.7 4 0 7 1 5 PER HUNDRED, NO NEW TAX REVENUE TAX RATE 0.7 0 5 1 7 1 PER 100 VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE 0.7 4 0 7 1 5 PER 100.

THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE IS THE TAX RATE FOR THE 2021 TAX YEAR.

THAT WILL RAISE THE SAME AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR FROM THE SAME PROPERTIES IN BOTH THE 2020 TAX YEAR AND THE 2021 TAX YEAR.

THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE IS THE HIGHEST TAX RATE THAT THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR MAY ADOPT WITHOUT HOLDING AN ELECTION TO SEEK VOTER APPROVAL OF THE RATE.

THE PROPOSED TAX RATE IS GREATER THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.

THIS MEANS THAT THE CITY OF PORT ARTHUR IS PROPOSING TO INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE 2021 TAX YEAR.

THE PUBLIC WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO VIEW THE PUBLIC HEARING VIA THE CITY'S WEBSITE AT WW PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS.GOV.

WE'RE READY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE CHAMBER WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE TAX RATE ON THIS MORNING? ANY INDIVIDUALS SPEAK TO THE TAX RATE ON THIS MORNING? YES.

MA'AM.

YOU MAY COME TO THE MIC.

JOANNE JONES, SIX FOUR EASTERN STREET.

HEY, MS. JONES, UH, WHAT, UH, INCREASE B OH, NO CHECKS, YOU KNOW, FOR ME TO DO MY LITTLE, UH, PRESENTATION AND THAT MIGHT HELP ANSWER HER QUESTION.

I DO HAVE A LITTLE, UH, OVERHEAD IF YOU'D LIKE TO LISTEN TO THAT.

AND THEN, UH, YOU CAN ASK MY, ASK HER QUESTION.

WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU ALLOW THAT MS. JONES TO DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT'S COMING FORWARD AND THEN, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL ANSWER TO SEE IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION AND THEN YOU'LL ALLOW YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME RIGHT BACK.

ALL RIGHT, MS. DANG.

UH, THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE IS 0.7 4 0 7 1 5.

IF YOU TURN TO THE FIRST PAGE LINDSAY, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS, UH, UH, SHOWS THE PROPOSED TAX RATE OUR CURRENT YEAR TAX RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 21 THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS 0.7, NINE TWO PER HUNDRED, UH, DOLLAR VALUATION.

OUR PROPOSED TAX RATE IS FOR FYI 2022 IS 0.70 7 4 0 7 1 5.

THAT IS A 5 CENT REDUCTION IN YOUR TAX RATE, YOUR TAX RATE FOR NEXT YEAR.

UH, THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE FOR THIS YEAR IS 0.70 5, 1 71, AS OPPOSED TO 0.781 LAST YEAR.

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AND THIS CURRENT YEAR IT WAS 0.8 1 4 4 2 7.

SO THAT DOES EQUATE TO A 5 CENT, UH, TAX REDUCTION.

IF YOU TURN THE PAGE LINDSEY, UM, THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE THAT I REFERRED TO WAS PREVIOUSLY CALLED THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.

AND THAT IS BASICALLY THE TAX RATE NEEDED TO GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TAXES AS LAST YEAR.

THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS THE ROLLBACK RATE IS THE HIGHEST TAX RATE A TAXING UNIT CAN ADOPT WITHOUT HOLDING AN ELECTION.

THERE WAS NEW LEGISLATION IN 2021 THAT CREATED A MODIFICATION TO THE FORMULA USED FOR THE NEATNESS AND OPERATIONS RATE.

THE CHANGE IN THE MAXIMUM RATE FROM 8% TO THREE AND A HALF PERCENT WITHOUT REQUIRING AN AUTOMATIC ELECTION.

SPECIAL PROVISIONS DID ALLOW THE CITY TO USE THE 8% CALCULATION AGAIN THIS YEAR DUE TO THE DISASTERS THAT WE'VE HAD THIS PAST YEAR, THE CALCULATION, AS I MENTIONED, RESULTED IN A REQUIRED 5 CENT REDUCTION IN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE WITHOUT CALLING FOR AN ELECTION.

AND BASICALLY IF YOU TURN THE PAGE LINDSEY, THE REASON FOR THE REDUCTION IS THE TAX RATE IS BECAUSE WE HAD AN INCREASE IN ASSESSED VALUE.

SO YOU SEE THE CERTIFIED ASSESSED VALUE FOR, UH, LAST YEAR WAS TWO, 2 BILLION, 978 MILLION THIS YEAR, 3 BILLION, 380 BILLION, UH, WHICH IS A 13% INCREASE.

SO THAT IS THE MAIN REASON WE HAD A 13% INCREASE IN OUR VALUE.

SO WE HAD TO REDUCE OUR TAX RATE BY 5 CENTS.

SO THAT'S KINDA MY LITTLE EXPLANATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPED ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, ANY MA'AM, UM, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO EXPLAIN FURTHER, COME ON BACK, MS. JONES, NOT BEING IN SELTON TO THE BOARD, BUT WE'RE NOT EX HOW MUCH YOU ALL PREPARING FOR A TAX INCREASE AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE CHARGED AGAIN.

TAX RATES BEING INCREASE JUST ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST ONE WAS, BUT THE COMMUNITY IS SUCH AN, A BAND AND SUCH, UM, MISS STREETS, GARBAGE, TRASH, EVERYTHING IS OUT OF OURS.

AND YET YOU'RE STILL ASKING FOR TAX INCREASE, A PERSON DO NOT MIND PAYING FOR WHAT THEY'RE GETTING, BUT WHEN THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING, IT COMES A PROBLEM.

CAN YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM? YES, MA'AM.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M AGAINST IT.

AND YOU KEEP ASKING FOR MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND NOTHING IS GIVEN OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND NOTHING IS BEING SEEN.

UH, WE, WE HAVE PROBLEMS OUT THERE.

WE LIVE IN LIFE, POURED OUT THE NOVA LEO, BUT NOT BEEN HERE 77 YEARS.

AND, UH, KEEP ON INCREASED FOR THE WARM YOU INCREASE BURNING ATTACKS.

IT'S HIGH PEOPLE LOSING THEIR PROPERTY.

IF YOU LOOK AT IT, PEOPLE, PROPERTY IS GONE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY FOR TWO.

UH, IF THEIR PARENTS LEFT THEM PROPERTY, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT.

AND THERE'S SUCH THING AS TEXT INCREASE.

SO WE, WE, WE, WE'RE NOT GAINING AT ALL.

WE LOSING A NAME, THAT'S MINE, UH, YOU KNOW, TH THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

SO I WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND THINK ABOUT IT, HOW, UM, WHAT THE COMMUNITY COULD AFFORD AND WHAT WE ARE GETTING FURTHER INCREASE.

JUST WHAT ARE WE RECEIVING FUNDING INCREASE HIS PAY, PAY, PAY, PAY, AND NOTHING.

NOTHING IS BEING GIVEN BACK.

YES, MA'AM CLARIFY, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THESE TERMS ARE, ARE KIND OF WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT MAYBE IS HARD TO EXPLAIN.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, IT'S 0.740, THE CURRENT TAX RATE IS 0.792.

SO WE ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSING A REDUCTION IN THE TAX RATE OF 5 CENTS.

SO WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY HAVING AN INCREASE.

UM, THERE, WE COULD GO DOWN TO 0.705, WHICH WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD NOT RAISE ANY NEW REVENUE.

AND THAT'S KIND OF SET UP AND EXPLAINED IN THE FIRST PAGE OF THE BUDGET.

HOWEVER, FOR MANY YEARS, THE TAX RATE WAS 0.7, NINE

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TWO.

WE ARE PROPOSING IN THIS TAX YEAR FOR A TAX RATE, WHICH IS EQUAL TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

MEANING WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO AN ELECTION, UH, TO DO ANYTHING.

THIS IS WHAT THE STATE ALLOWS OF 0.7, FOUR, AND IT WILL REDUCE TAXES BY 5 CENTS.

SO IT, THESE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT, STRANGE TERMS. I KNOW IT'S KINDA HARD TO HAVE A QUICK PRESENTATION AND EXPLAIN IT.

BUT FOR MANY YEARS, WE'VE BEEN AT 0.7, NINE TWO.

WE ARE REDUCING TAXES BY 5 CENTS.

SO, UH, AND THAT IS, UH, WOULD I BE GOING ALONG THING? WE ALL KNOW THAT THE TAXES, THE PROPERTY VALUES WENT UP AND JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHEN PROPERTY VALUES GO UP, THE TAX RATE GOES DOWN.

SO OUR TAX RATE IS GOING DOWN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY, MANY YEARS.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT, MS. JONES, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ABOUT THE CITIZENS TOO? I TRY AND UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU SEE WHEN YOU ALL GET READY TO RUN, BUT FOR DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND THINGS, ALL LEGAL HERE IS Y'ALL WIND UP ON THE TAX.

THAT'S ALL ONLY GOING HERE.

NOT HAVING NO UNDERSTANDING.

OH, WHAT SHE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

AND, UM, I BEGLEY UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINGS TO BE TRUTHFULLY WHAT SHE'S SAYING.

AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAY, YOU ALL ARE WORKING FOR THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD BE GO OUT YOUR WAY TO GET THEM, TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND LIKE SHE SAYS, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THIS SAND.

THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.

AND YOU KNOW, THEY ALLOW HER TO DO IT AND ALL THIS, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? AND IT'S SO MUCH MISUNDERSTANDING OUT THERE WHAT YOUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M HERE TO HEAR FROM MYSELF, BECAUSE IF I WAS OUT THERE AND DIDN'T COME TO A MEETING, I'D BE ONE OF THE SAME WAS TO GOSSIP.

THE PARENT.

YES MA'AM.

SO WE PRAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANT IS FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS SAYING IS THAT THE TAXES ARE IN EFFECT GOING DOWN, UH, FOR THE FIRST TIME, IN QUITE A LONG TIME, AND TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL, UH, THAT WE ARE SEEKING TO FIX STREETS.

WE'VE BEEN IN EVERY AREA OF OUR COMMUNITY NOW SPENDING $10 MILLION IN EACH AND EVERY DISTRICT.

SO WE'RE REPAIRING ROADS.

UH, WE'RE TRYING TO DO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, OUR CITIZENRY, UH, WOULD HAVE US TO DO.

THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS ARE BEING WORKED ON.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE SAYING TO US TODAY, AS A COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS THE TAX RATE, GOING DOWN, THAT'S WHY THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS BEING ILL.

SO THAT CITIZENS SUCH AS YOURSELF CAN COME AND GET AN UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT THAT THE TAX RATE WAS GOING UP WHEN IN ESSENCE IT IS GOING DOWN, THEY, THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU ALL RUN INTO TROUBLE.

YES, MA'AM.

AND I ADVISE THAT YOU ALL HIRE SOME MORE PEOPLE TO MOVE THIS FATHER, AND YOU SAYING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT YOU'RE DOING US.

I GO OUT THERE TO MY BROTHER, UH, INVESTOR, UH, WHATEVER THAT WAS HIT.

VERY HARD, NOT OUR BILLS TO MONTREUX.

UH, THAT WAS HIT VERY HARD.

AND IF YOU GO OUT THERE, THERE'S NO DRAINAGE DISHES WHATSOEVER OUT THERE.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN PLACE THAT EVERYBODY GOT FLOODED OUT.

IT HAS BEEN HOW MANY YEARS, TWO YEARS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ADVISE THAT YOU ALL HIRE SOME PEOPLE AND UP AND UP THE REVENUE ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

TALK IS CHEAP AND, AND JUST TALKING, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE CAN GIVE YOU CREDIT, UM, COUNCILMAN MARKS AND THEN COUNSELOR MOSES, OR I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN MOSES.

GO AHEAD, MS. JOANNE, I HAVE BEEN HERE WITH THIS TAX RATE AND I DO, IT WAS REALLY, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO KIND OF COMPREHEND AND I PRAY THAT WE CAN GET IT ON OUR WEBSITE AND GET IT WHERE CITIZENS CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND.

IT'S BEEN ZERO.

EVERY PRESENTATION I'VE BEEN IN FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE PAID THE 0.0792, WHICH IS A HIGHER TAX RATE FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.

I SEE THE REDUCTION OF 0.7, 4 0 7.

I THINK COUNCILMAN HAS BEEN HERE.

WE'VE APPROVED EVERY ONE OF THESE BUDGETS SINCE 2015.

THIS IS A 5% REDUCTION IN TAX TAX RATES SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES IT ANY CLEARER TO YOU, BUT IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE CITY.

ATTORNEYS EXPLAINED IT, BUT COMPREHENSION IS DIFFERENT AND NOT COMPREHEND SLOWER THAN OTHER PEOPLE MAYBE, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY A REDUCTION FROM WHAT WE HAVE APPROVED OF THE LAST FIVE YEARS SINCE I'VE

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BEEN ON CITY COUNCIL.

SO I, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF GETTING THAT, UH, PUBLICLY OUT ON FACEBOOK TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A REDUCTION OR ON OUR WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY.

AND SO PLEASE EXCUSE US FOR NOT GETTING IT OUT PROPERLY, OTHER THAN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MAYBE WE CAN TAKE IT FROM TODAY, PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE, GET ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.

THAT ACTUALLY, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST REDUCTION THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

TRY TO BREAK IT DOWN AS ELEMENTARY AS POSSIBLE.

I BELIEVE YOU THAT'S.

THAT'S EXACTLY.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

CAN I HOLD YOU ALL COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE, COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY? YES, MA'AM AND WHY I'M HERE.

YES, MA'AM AND I'M GLAD THAT WE CAN ALL SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 5% REDUCTION.

NO FINE.

UM, THE LITTLE, THE REDUCTION IS, IS 0.05, 5 CENTS 5 CENTS REDUCTION REDUCTION.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IT IS LOWER NOW THAN IT'S EVER BEEN.

I HOPE THAT HELPS.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN CHARGED BABY BUTTER.

IT STAY RIGHT THERE.

STAY RIGHT THERE.

MS. JONES, CONSTABLE MARKS, LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING TIGHT.

WORKING AND WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD.

MS. JONES, UM, SPEAKING TO THE, UH, MONTROSE AREA AND DITCH SITUATION, UH, WE ACTUALLY HELD A, UH, UH, TOWN HALL MEETING OUT THERE IN EARLY JULY.

I HAD ALL THE STAFF OUT THERE.

I'M THE COUNCILMAN FOR THAT DISTRICT.

UH, THE CITY, UH, THE NEW CITY ENGINEER WAS THERE ALONG WITH THE, UH, THE CITY ENGINEER WHO, UH, HE WAS ACTING AND HE'S, HE'S NO LONGER WITH US, BUT WE ALSO HAD, UH, A NUMBER OF STAFF OUT THERE TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CUTTING OF DITCHES.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET STARTED ON THIS, UH, FIVE DIFFERENT STREETS THERE AUGUST 2ND.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY OUT FOR BID THAT WE SHOULD BE STAGING EQUIPMENT AND MATERIALS WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.

SO WITH THE MAYOR, PRO TEM IS, IS ADDRESSING TODAY IS, IS, IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

THEY MAY NOT BE HAPPENING AS, AS FAST AS YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT THEY'RE HAPPENING AS FAST AS WE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE THEM HAPPEN.

UH, DEPENDING ON THE BID PROCESS, DEPENDING ON GETTING THE EQUIPMENT AND THE MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING LINED UP, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SO MANY, UH, DISASTERS ACROSS THE, SO WE, WE ARE WORKING, UH, AND YOU, IF YOU WOULD, AS, AS A COMMUNITY, UH, ADVOCATE, UH, JUST WORK WITH US AND BEAR WITH US, WE ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO SPEED THIS PROCESS ALONG.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF, UH, IF YOU KNOW, MS. MS. B, MS. B SANDERS, SHE IS THE, THE, THE PERSON THAT LEADS THAT, THAT COMMUNITY OUT THERE IN MONTROSE, I'VE SPOKEN WITH HER SEVERAL TIMES, VISITED WITH HER IN OUR HOME.

SHE SET UP THE, UH, TOWN HALL MEETING AND SHE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AGAIN, WE'RE PUSHING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON SCHEDULE WITH WHAT WE'RE TELLING FOLKS OUT IN THAT AREA, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW, BUT A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH PANDEMIC MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING BEING HELD UP BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

BUT WE ARE WORKING ON, ON THAT ISSUE, THAT, THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE, ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER ISSUES, I UNDERSTAND, SIR.

YEAH, I'VE BEEN HERE REPEATEDLY AND YOU REPEATED IT SAYING THE SAME THING AND I HAVE TO BELIEVE YOU, BUT, YOU KNOW, SEEING AND GETTING IT DONE IS ANOTHER THING IS TWO YEARS, TWO YEARS FROM 21 TO 22 AS, AS OF NOW, AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU HIRE, IF THEY ARE NOT ON TIME, I THINK YOU SHOULD PUT PRESSURE ON THEM AND THEY GOING TO LOOK FOR THEIR MONEY.

SO YOU NEED A DAY IN LINE, EVEN WITH THEM TO GET IT DONE.

YES, MA'AM.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THE, UH, WE'RE WORKING OUR HARDEST RIGHT NOW.

OUR STAFF IS WORKING HARD TO GET THIS DONE AND, AND, UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO, AS YOU SAID, THERE'S NOT JUST IN MONTROSE, BUT IN EL VISTA AND PORT ACRES ON THE WEST SIDE, OVER IN THE STONE GATE AREA, THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE EVERYWHERE.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO IT AS, AS FAST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO GO IN AND RUSH IN AND DO SOMETHING AND THEN HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDO IT BECAUSE WE RUSHED TO DO SOMETHING.

AND IN HASTE, WE DIDN'T DO A QUALITY JOB THE FIRST TIME WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT DONE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS DONE, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND NOT USING THIS AS AN EXCUSE, BUT I'VE NOT BEEN HERE A YEAR YET.

AND YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT TWO YEARS, SO WE'RE WORKING, WE ARE

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COUNCIL WOMAN, SHOULDN'T NOT LET US COME IN IS I THINK YOU NEED TO HIRE MORE.

PEOPLE HAS PUT IN HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE ON THEIR JOBS BECAUSE THEY WORK FROM SEVEN TO 10 AND THEN THEY ARE LAYING AROUND.

AND THAT IS NOT ENOUGH WORK HOURS AND WORK FOR THIS CITY JOB.

WE CAN DO BETTER.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CITY OF FULL BUT 50 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN WORK DONE.

BINION HAS, IS JOINED NOW.

THANK YOU, JONES, MS. JONES.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION LAST WEEK, AND YOU EXPRESSED MANY CONCERNS.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TODAY AND SHARING THOSE CONCERNS WITH COUNCIL.

I KNOW YOU ARE IN DISTRICT ONE AND COUNCIL MEMBER MARKS SPOKE TO, UM, THE ISSUES REGARDING DISTRICT FOUR, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE BEING ADDRESSED IN DISTRICT ONE AS WELL.

WE'RE DOING STREET PROGRAMS AND WORKING ON MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT HERE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL OF YOU AT THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON FROM, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC? UM, IN REGARDS TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

TWO MOTIONS, CITY ATTORNEY.

SO WE'LL HAVE TWO MOTIONS TO MOTION WHEN YOU GET TO THE NEXT PART.

IF YOU WANT TO READ THE NEXT PORTION, UH, ONE WOULD OF COURSE BE A POST OR A MOTION TO, UM, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BUT PRIOR TO IT, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE ACTION ITEM, OKAY, I WILL DO THAT.

SO AT THIS POINT AT THIS ONE, WE'RE GOING TO GET A MOTION TO CLOSE OUT PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THE ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE LAW.

SO MOVE SECOND.

WE'VE GOT A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HOMES AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MARKS.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET'S VOTE.

AYE.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER

[IV. FY 2021- 2022 BUDGET ACTION ITEM REQUIRED]

AND THIS IS ITEM FOUR.

YES MA'AM.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

FYI 2021 THROUGH 2022 BUDGET ACTION ITEM REQUIRED PURSUANT TO SECTION 26.06 OF THE TEXAS TAX CODE.

THE GOVERNING BODY MAY VOTE ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THE GOVERNING BODY DOES NOT VOTE ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE GOVERNING BODIES SHALL ANNOUNCE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING THE DATE, THE TIME AND PLACE OF THE MEETING AT WHICH IT WILL VOTE ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE.

SO AT THIS TIME, IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE, UM, YOU CAN ANNOUNCE THE DATE.

I THINK THIS, UH, CANDY HAS, UH, HAS A STATED THAT THE DATE WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 14TH AND THE CITY SECRETARY HAS CORRECTED ME.

THE TIME WILL BE 10:00 AM.

UH, IN THE PLACE OF THE MEETING WILL BE HERE AT CITY HALL.

SO WE WILL POSTPONE THE ADOPTION.

WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE ADOPTION OF THE RATE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 14TH, 10:00 AM AT CITY HALL.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE VOTING ON THE TAX RATE UNTIL SEPTEMBER THE 14TH AT 10:00 AM HERE IN CITY HALL AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DO SO.

SURE.

SECOND.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, KEN LAW FOR THE MOTION AND FOR THE SECOND COMING FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBER MARKS AT THIS TIME WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

DO WE HAVE TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE AT THIS TIME? WE'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE BY ROLL CALL COUNCIL MEMBER HOLMES.

COUNCIL MEMBER KINLAW COUNCIL MEMBER MARKS.

COUNCIL MEMBER MOSES.

MAYOR PRO TEM FRANK MEASURE PASSES.

BACK IN THE HANDS OF THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANKS.

IMMEDIATE PAST MAYOR PRO TEM, MOSES FOR HANDLING THAT FOR US ON TODAY.

I HAD TO STEP OUT FOR A MOMENT, BUT I AM BACK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, WE'LL HAVE A MOTION NOW FOR ADJOURNMENT WORKS OUT.

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OH, OKAY.

FOR OUR WORKSHOP, MAY I HAVE A MOTION, UH, TO, UH, TO CLOSE OUR PUBLIC, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? WE DID.

WE'VE ALREADY CLOSED IT.

WE'LL GO INTO

[V. A Workshop Regarding The Proposed Fiscal Year 2021 — 2022 Budget For The City Of Port Arthur]

THE WORKSHOP, MAN.

PICKING UP ON THE FLAT PRESENTATION, LINDSAY FOR THE WORKSHOP, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THEM, UH, UH, THINGS THAT, UH, YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS FURTHER.

UH, SO, UM, I BROUGHT THOSE FORWARD TO YOU THIS WEEK RELATING TO PERSONNEL, UH, IN OUR, UH, AUTHORIZED PHYSICIANS, THE FIRST PANEL.

ANYWAY, THE FIRST PAGE OF, UH, THE PRESENTATION JUST SHOWS IT'S A VACANCY REPORT.

IT SHOWS OUR PROPOSED BY D BY DEPARTMENT.

IT SHOWS OUR PROPOSED, UH, AUTHORIZED POSITIONS THAT WE REQUESTED FOR FISCAL YEAR 22 SHOWS OUR AUTHORIZED POSITIONS FOR THE CURRENT YEAR.

IT SHOWS THE VACANCIES THIS YEAR AT THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST AND THE VACANCIES A YEAR AGO.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF VACANCIES IN MANY OF THESE POSITIONS ON THIS FIRST PAGE, EXCEPT FOR POLICE AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE, WE HAD A HUNDRED AND WE WERE, WE PROPOSING 169 POSITIONS FOR NEXT YEAR.

THE CURRENT YEAR, THEY HAVE 168 POSITIONS.

THEY HAD 17 VACANCIES AT THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST THIS YEAR, COMPARED TO 14 VACANCIES LAST YEAR.

SO THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES THERE.

UH, IF YOU TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE, LINDSAY, THIS IS THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENTS FOR THE GENERAL FUND IT'S THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS CONSISTENTLY HAS NO VACANCIES.

UH, THE STREET DEPARTMENT, THE STREET DIVISION OF PUBLIC WORKS, UH, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH FIELD.

LAST YEAR.

THEY HAD NO VACANCIES THIS YEAR.

THEY DO HAVE ONE VACANCY OUT OF 15 POSITIONS.

UH, THE SAME WITH, UH, DRAINAGE.

THEY HAVE ONE VACANCY LAST YEAR AND ONE VACANT THIS YEAR.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL AT THE BOTTOM, UH, THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND, UH, PROPOSED ARE AUTHORIZED POSITIONS AS 538 COMPARED TO 531 THIS YEAR.

THAT IS, UH, A REQUEST TO SEVEN NEW POSITIONS.

AND THE VACANCIES THIS YEAR, WE HAVE 56 COMPARED TO 43 VACANCIES AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, WE, WE ONLY HAVE 12 POSITIONS IN THE FIRE.

IS THAT FOR THE ENTIRE FARM? NOT RIGHT.

IT'S NOT RIGHT, MELISSA.

HOLD ON.

EXCUSE ME.

THEN YOU GOT OUT OF YOUR PERSONNEL.

WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? I'M SORRY.

THAT IS 108 POSITIONS.

SO YOU READ THE REPORT.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

THERE IS 108.

THERE IS 108 POSITIONS THIS YEAR.

THERE'S 109 POSITIONS PROPOSED FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO THE ONE, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE THEY REQUESTED ADDITIONAL CAPTAIN POSITION 1 0 8.

SHE'LL CHECK THE REST OF THEM.

I, I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT THERE ARE NO VACANCIES, BUT WE DO HAVE MORE THAN 12 PEOPLE.

UH, SOME OF THE SITUATIONS WE NEED TO GET COVERED IN THE CITY, IF YOU LOOK AT PUBLIC WORKS DRAINAGE, THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR, 2120, YOU HAVE SEVEN, YOU AUTHORIZE EIGHT, YOU'RE TAKING A POSITION AWAY.

IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I APOLOGIZE.

HEY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM W OKAY.

I'M, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR DRAINAGE ARE YOU'RE TAKING A POSITION AWAY NEXT YEAR.

GO SKI YOUR NECK, UH, 2122.

AND YOU AUTHORIZED A, WHAT POSITION WOULD THAT BE IN DRAINAGE THAT WERE TAKEN AWAY? WHEN WE KNOW THAT,

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AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE 15 AND 15 AS ONE VACANCY, YEAH.

AND YOU'VE MOVED IT TO SOMEWHERE THERE, IT SHOULDN'T BE ANY, NOTHING THAT IT'S A VACANCY.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TAKEN AWAY.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT JOB IS THAT IT'S VACANT.

IT WAS VACANT.

LASHON IS VACANT THIS YEAR.

AND, AND THE RE THE REASON I SAID THAT BECAUSE ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS AGO, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DRAINAGE STREETS AND, AND REWORKING THESE, UH, THESE, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WAS SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS AGO.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M REALLY KEYED ON DRAINAGE STREET, BECAUSE WE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HR NEEDED TO REWORK, UH, UH, APPLICATION, UH, FORMAT.

SO THESE PEOPLE CAN APPLY FOR THESE JOBS, BUT WE ARE STILL AT THE SAME POINT 92, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, ONE WHERE WE AT WE'RE TRYING TO FORMAT THESE NEW APPLICATION PROCESS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIX, SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS.

I BOUGHT THIS UP AND I WAITED FOR THIS POINT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IF WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO HIRE PEOPLE WITH THESE CRITICAL JOBS, WHY AREN'T WE HIRING THEM? WHY, WHY, WHY ARE WE HAVING VACANCIES? AND I KNOW WE GET PEOPLE TO RETIRE.

WE GET PEOPLE TO QUIT, BUT THOSE CRITICAL POSITIONS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ON TOP OF, AND IF WE'RE BUDGETED FOR IT, JUST LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MOSES STATED, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A VACANCY, WHY, WHY, WHY CAN'T WE IT, AND IT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WAITING SIX TO SEVEN MONTHS AGO ABOUT REDOING THE APPLICATION FORMAT.

SO THESE PEOPLE CAN'T QUALIFY.

SO THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME.

THERE'S ACTUALLY 28 POSITIONS.

THERE'S NOT A REDUCTION IN THE DRAINAGE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 28 POSITIONS.

AND I HAVE TO REDO THIS REPORT FOR YOU.

ALL I HAVE TO GO.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

MAY I PRO TIM? CAN I SAY ONE MORE? YEAH.

WELL, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, CORRECT? MAYBE HOLD THE WHOLE THING IS IT'S NOT RIGHT.

I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE REST OF THOSE LETTERS.

COME BACK TO YOU WITH THIS REPORT, BECAUSE IT APPEARS TO BE INCORRECT NOW THAT WE REVIEWED IT, WE SHOULD HAVE REVIEWED IT BETTER BEFOREHAND.

UM, BUT I DIDN'T CHECK THE NUMBERS.

THE TOTALS ARE CORRECT, THOUGH.

AT THE VERY BOTTOM, THERE IS 538 POSITIONS, UH, PROPOSED.

UH, AND DO YOU WANT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO A MAYOR PRO TEM, UH, ARE WE PLANNING ON RESCHEDULING, THIS, THIS RB UNTIL YOU GUYS GET THERE TOGETHER, WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN DO THAT, OR WE CAN GO ON AND DO IT WHILE WE'RE IN THE WORKSHOP MODE, MAYOR PRO TEM.

DO YOU THINK OUR, OUR HR DIRECTOR IS HERE.

DO YOU THINK THEY CAN CORRECT THIS AS WE GO SO WE CAN GET IT CORRECT? PRETTY QUICKLY.

UM, OKAY.

THIS IS GOING TO RESET.

MELISSA'S GOING TO CORRECT THIS REPORT, THIS PARTICULAR REPORT.

UM, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO IT.

YES, I, I, I DO APOLOGIZE THAT WE WILL GET THIS RIDE CORRECTED VERY QUICKLY FOR YOU WE'RE LIVE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'VE RETURNED.

UM, FROM MY RECESS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A ROLE CITY.

SECRETARY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? MAYOR BARR, T MAYOR PRO TEM FRAME, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLMES, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES, COUNCIL MEMBER, KEN LAW, COUNCIL MEMBER MARKS, COUNCIL MEMBER.

MOSES.

DO YOU HAVE A QUORUM THERE FOR TIM? ALL RIGHT, MS. DANIELS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK.

WE'RE READY TO PICK UP NOW WITH THE PRESENTATION IN THE WORKSHOP.

SO LET'S JUST START FROM BEGINNING.

OH, YES.

LET'S JUST START ALL OVER.

I DO APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO I REPORT HOW IT GOT OFF SO MUCH, BUT IT WAS JUST THOSE TWO PAGES FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

UM, BASICALLY THEY WERE OFF GOTTEN THEM PRESENTATION YET.

SHE DID.

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UH, 21 VACANCY, UH, MONTH.

UM, WE'LL START AGAIN WITH THE PERSONNEL VACANCY REPORT FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

YOU DO HAVE, UH, THE PROPOSED POSITIONS ARE LISTED IN THE FIRST COLUMN, THE CURRENT ARTHRITIS POSITIONS FOR THIS YEAR IN THE SECOND COLUMN, THE VACANCY, UH, NUMBER, UH, AND BEGINNING OF AUGUST OF THIS YEAR AND THE BEGINNING.

YEAH, IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, A YEAR AGO TO MAKE THE COMPARISON.

SO THESE NUMBERS HOPEFULLY, OR A LITTLE BETTER, UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THE FIRST PAGE THAT POLICE HAS PROPOSED 169 POSITIONS, 168 POSITIONS CURRENTLY ARE AUTHORIZED WITH 17 VACANCIES THIS YEAR, AS OPPOSED TO 14 VACANCIES LAST YEAR, UH, ON THE NEXT PAGE IS WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE DRAMATIC CHANGE.

UM, SOMETHING GOT HAYWIRE ON THAT PAGE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, BUT WE DO HAVE 109 AUTHORIZED, UH, PROPOSED POSITIONS FOR FIRE.

NEXT YEAR, 108 ARE AUTHORIZED THIS YEAR.

THEY ARE REQUESTING ONE NEW POSITION.

THERE IS SEVEN VACANCIES THIS YEAR, AS OPPOSED TO ONE VACANCY LAST YEAR, UM, PUBLIC WORKS STREETS.

THEY DO HAVE 28 POSITIONS BUDGETED THIS YEAR, UH, PROPOSED NEXT YEAR AND BUDGETED THIS YEAR WITH SIX VACANCIES CURRENTLY SUPPOSED TO 13 VACANCIES LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME.

SO THEY HAVE MADE SOME STRIDES IN GETTING THOSE POSITIONS FIELD WITH DRAINAGE.

THEY ALSO HAVE 28 PROPOSED POSITIONS IN 28 CURRENT AUTHORIZED POSITIONS WITH FOUR VACANT THIS YEAR AND TWO VACANT LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME EQUIPMENT SERVICES, UM, 15 PROPOSED POSITIONS PUT 14 POSITIONS THIS YEAR.

I HAVE FOUR VACANCIES THIS YEAR, AS OPPOSED TO ONE LAST YEAR.

UM, PARKS AND RECREATION WERE PROPOSED 21 POSITIONS FOR NEXT YEAR.

20 ARE CURRENTLY ARTHRITIS, VACANCIES AND TWO IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

AND THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND NUMBER WAS STILL CORRECT.

538 PROPOSED FOR NEXT YEAR BY 131 ARE CURRENTLY AREN'T.

UM, WITH, UM, SOME NEW POSITIONS REQUESTED, WHICH I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE, 56, 56 VACANCIES THIS YEAR AND, UH, 43 VACANCIES.

THE PREVIOUS YEAR, YOU TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE, LINDSEY.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE, UH, 10 NEW POSITIONS ARE PROPOSED NEXT YEAR, SEVEN POSITIONS IN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, TO AN INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, UH, ONE IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND ADMINISTRATIVE CLERK FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.

ONE IN EQUIPMENT SERVICES, A HEAVY EQUIPMENT MECHANIC, ONE POLICE SECRETARY, ONE FIRE, CAPTAIN AND SUPPRESSION, AND, UH, AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN PARKS AND RECREATION.

THEN THERE ARE A THREE ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDED POSITIONS THAT ARE NEW, UH, ONE FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND HOUSING AND TWO IN TRANSIT.

NEXT PAGE LINDSEY, UH, THIS PAGE SHOWS THE, UH, WATER FUND AND, UH, THE CURRENT VACANCIES, THERE ARE NO NEW PROPOSED POSITIONS FOR WATER.

SO THE PROPOSED, UH, TOTAL IS ONE 20.

THE CURRENT AUTHORIZED POSITIONS ARE ONE 20 WITH 19 VACANCIES THIS YEAR, SUPPOSED TO 14 LAST YEAR WITH THE MAJORITY OF THOSE BEING IN WASTEWATER TREATMENT SIX THIS YEAR WITH THREE LAST YEAR, THE NEXT PAGE LINDSEY WE HAVE, UM, THE, UH, SOLID WASTE BOND IS NEXT.

THEY ALSO HAVE NO NEW POSITIONS REQUESTED 48 POSITIONS PROPOSED 48 POSITIONS THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, THEY REMAINED AT THREE VACANCIES.

THE CURRENT YEAR, THREE VACANCIES LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, PLEASE, YOUR ISLAND.

UM, ALSO NO NEW POSITIONS REQUESTED.

UH, THEY HAVE SIX POSITIONS OUT THERE PROPOSED SIX ARTHUR ASKED FOR THIS YEAR AND THEY CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR VACANCIES, UH, WHICH I THINK, UH, AT LEAST ONE OF THEM I KNOW HAS BEEN FILLED.

SO IT'S SUPPOSED TO ZERO LAST YEAR, YOU GOT TO THE NEXT PAGE, UH, THIS JUST KIND OF DRILLS DOWN ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THEIR FYI,

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UH, CURRENT AUTHORIZED POSITIONS HAVE 168.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEIR VACANCIES RANGE FROM THE BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR, 18, UH, FEBRUARY, THEY WERE UP TO 22 VACANCIES.

AND NOW THEY'RE BACK DOWN TO 17.

THOSE ARE THE MAJORITY ARE IN THE POLICE OFFICER AND THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS OPERATOR POSITIONS.

THE NEXT PAGE, UH, IS LAST FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 20 COMPARED TO THIS YEAR, UH, SHOWS 167 AUTHORIZED POSITIONS, UH, WITH BEGINNING OF THE YEAR 15 VACANCIES DOWN TO 13 IN MARCH.

AND, UH, BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'RE UP TO 19 VACANCIES AGAIN IN THE, THE SAME, THE SAME POSITIONS AS THIS YEAR.

UH, ONE MORE PAGE LINDSAY.

THIS IS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF EXPLANATION AS TO THE CHANGE, UM, IN THEIR BUDGET FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

UM, TRY TO EXPLAIN WHY I KNOW WE TALKED AT THE LAST MEETING, WHY THAT THEIR INCREASE FOR THEIR SALARIES WAS LESS THAN 2%, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE, UH, GETTING A 2% RAISE.

WHAT WE DO WHEN WE START THE BUDGET PROCESS IS WE TAKE A SNAPSHOT OF THE PAYROLL FILE AT A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME.

AND, UH, THIS YEAR WE DID THAT ON JUNE THE FOURTH.

LAST YEAR, WE DID IT ON MAY THE 20TH, AND WHEN WE RAN THEIR REPORTS AT THAT TIME, THE REGULAR EARNINGS, THE REGULAR EARNINGS FOR THE BUDGET FOR FY 21 IS 12.15.

WHEN WE RAN THAT SAME REPORT THIS YEAR ON MAY ON, UH, MAY THE 20TH, IT WAS 11.97 MILLION.

AND THAT IS PRIMARILY DUE TO THE VACANCIES.

UH, WHEN WE RAN THE REPORT LAST YEAR, IT WAS BASED ON 12 VACANCIES.

WHEN WE RAN THE REPORT THIS YEAR, THERE WERE 19 VACANCIES.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM, WE HAD A, WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, WE HAD ABOUT SIX RETIREES DURING THE YEAR MAKING $530,000 COMPARED TO ENTRY-LEVEL LEASE OFFICERS MAKING ABOUT 340,000.

SO THAT'S, THAT EXPLAINS THE DECREASE IN WHERE WE STARTED WITH THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.

SO WE STARTED AT ONE POINT 11.97, AND WE ADDED THE 2% PLUS ONE POSITION THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED TO 12.25, THAT'S A 2.3% INCREASE.

SO THERE IS THE INCREASE THERE.

IT'S JUST THAT WE STARTED WITH A LOWER NUMBER THIS YEAR DUE TO THE HIGH NUMBER OF VACANCIES.

THEY HAVE PEOPLE MOVE UP IN THE ORGANIZATION AND YOUR VACANCIES END UP AT THE ENTRY LEVEL.

SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY.

UM, NEXT PAGE, LINDSEY.

UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATE ON THE CAPITAL RESERVE FUND, PROPOSED BUDGET.

UM, THE COMPANY ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT IS GOING TO BE, I KNOW THEY GAVE A PRESENTATION TO YOU AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO YOU AGAIN PROBABLY NEXT WEEK, UH, TO ASK FOR A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THIS.

UH, BUT WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO PURCHASE SOME FEET TO LEASE THEM VEHICLES IN A LITTLE PURCHASING THEM THIS YEAR.

UM, IN, IN YOUR BUDGET ON PAGE 1 0 9 IS YOUR LIST OF PROPOSED, UH, PURCHASES FOR CAPITAL EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES.

IT WAS A TOTAL OF 62 VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT TOTALLING ABOUT 5.8 MILLION.

WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO LEASE 31 OF THESE VEHICLES, UH, EXCUSE ME, THAT WOULD BE A REDUCTION OF ABOUT 1.4 MILLION AND THE COST TO PURCHASE THE REMAINING VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT THEN WOULD BE 4.3, 6 MILLION.

UH, IF WE ASSUME THAT THE LEASE WOULD BEGIN IN MARCH, UH, AND WE CALCULATE SEVEN, UH, LEASE PAYMENTS FOR NEXT YEAR FOR THE 31 VEHICLES, THAT'LL COME TO ABOUT $170,000.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO PAY THE, WHAT THEY CALL THE AFTERMARKET COST UP FRONT, WHICH IS THE EXTRAS ON THE, UH, VEHICLES, THE LIGHTS AND THE BUCKET AND TOOLKIT, TOOLBOXES, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT THAT TOLD HER ABOUT 140,000.

SO THE REVISED COST FOR EQUIPMENT NEXT YEAR FOR FISCAL YEAR 22 WOULD BE 4.6, 7 MILLION WITH A POSSIBLE SAVINGS OF ABOUT 1.1, 3 MILLION COMPARED TO WHAT WE BUDGETED ORIGINALLY THIS

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YEAR.

SO WE COULD SAVE THAT INTO THE FIRST, SOME OF THAT COST TO A FUTURE YEAR BY LEASING.

UH, SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES, IF YOU TURN THE PAGE, LINDSEY, THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU A SNAPSHOT OF HOW MUCH SAVINGS WE WOULD HAVE IN EACH FUND ABOUT 900,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND, 180,000 IN WATER, 15,000 IN SOLID WASTE, AND THEN THE REGULATORY ENFORCEMENT FUND OR THE GAMING FUND, A 35,000 FOR THE TOTAL OF 1.1, 3 MILLION.

THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE.

THE NEXT TWO SLIDES IS JUST A LIST OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY HAVE OUTLINED TO LEASE IN LIEU OF PURCHASE.

IT JUST LISTS THE TOTAL OF 31 TOTAL VEHICLES.

UH, THE FIRST PAGE IS, UH, THE ONES THAT WOULD AFFECT THE GENERAL FUND.

THE NEXT PAGE, YOU HAVE WATER LANDFILL AND REGULATORY ENFORCEMENT FUNDS FOR A TOTAL OF 31.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAD.

UM, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE MESS UP ON THE SCHEDULE AND HOPEFULLY THIS ONE IS A LITTLE MORE CORRECT.

AND CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER INFORMATION, USE THERE, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, YES.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE VACANCIES THAT YOU HAVE HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR ONE YEAR? UM, I DON'T KNOW CONSISTENTLY.

I IMAGINE THAT I IMAGINE THAT SOME OF THEM HAVE, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONES SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE CAN GET THAT LIST FOR YOU.

GOOD MORNING.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH ONES HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR ONE YEAR, BUT THE MANAGER AND I DO HAVE A PLAN, UH, THOSE CLERICAL POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR LONGER THAN ONE YEAR WHERE I'M THINKING OF FREEZING THOSE POSITIONS BECAUSE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT IMPORTANT FOR THAT DEPARTMENT.

UM, SO THAT'S THE PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING ON CURRENTLY, BUT IF YOU GUYS NEED A LIST OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR ONE YEAR OR MORE, EXCUSE ME, ONE YEAR OR MORE, I'LL BE GLAD TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.

I'D APPRECIATE THAT.

LET ME, LET ME AS WELL, HOLD UP.

WHO ELSE? I JUST HAD A CRUNCHY EMAIL THAT LIST.

CAUSE, CAUSE WE GET THEM AT RIGHT HERE.

I'D LIKE TO, JUST TO GET THEM IN AN EMAIL BECAUSE I WOULD'VE LIKED TO SEEN GOTTEN THAT REPORT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN JUST TODAY.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE THAT LIST.

IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT, UH, NEW POSITIONS, UH, THAT ARE WANTING TO BE ACQUIRED.

DO YOU GET THE INPUT FROM THE DIRECTORS TO OUR HIGH? THAT THE INFORMATION IS DISSEMBLED TOO.

I CAN GET TO YOUR DEPARTMENT TO DO THE PRIOR AND PROCESS.

REPEAT YOUR QUESTION.

LIKE THE NEW POSITIONS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING NEW POSITION.

SO ONCE WE HAVE A NEW POSITION THAT'S IN THE BUDGET, THAT DEPARTMENT THEN SENDS MY DEPARTMENT A REQUISITION FOR IT TO BE FIELD.

OF COURSE IT HAS TO HAVE THE, UM, UH, CORRECT JOB DESCRIPTION THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT, BUT THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS BEGINS.

MA'AM LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION AS WELL.

UM, IT, IT DREW MY ATTENTION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT VACANCIES WHEN WE LOOKED AT THOSE, I SEE THAT, UM, LIKE, UM, LET'S SAY FOR POLICE, LIEUTENANT FOR POLICE SERGEANT, UM, UM, AND UH, PERHAPS EVEN THESE, UH, TELECOMMUNICATIONS OPERATORS, IS THERE ANY, IT SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING INTERNAL BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD HIRE SOMEBODY TO BE A POLICE LIEUTENANT.

I THINK THAT'S A PROMOTION THING.

SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET OFF OF THE VACANCY LIST BY SIMPLY INTERNAL PROMOTION.

RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND, UM, WE OFFER CIVIL SERVICE OFFERS A PROMOTIONAL TEST FOR SERGEANT AND LIEUTENANT.

SO WHOEVER SCORES, THE HIGHEST ON SAID EXAM, THEY'RE PROMOTED FOR WHATEVER POSITION IT IS.

AND THEN IT OPENS UP LIKE A POSITION FOR A POLICE OFFICER.

SO, SO SOME, SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS IS THAT THESE, YOU KNOW, THESE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN, UM, THERE, AND THEN THEY WERE CLOSED, BUT NOW WE HAVE ONE, UH, YOU KNOW, SO I GUESS THEY THEY'VE BEEN FIELD NOW, RIGHT? WELL, NO, THIS IS PHYSICAL YEAR 21.

SO THOSE HAVE BEEN FIELD NOW, RIGHT? FOR A SERGEANT AND

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LIEUTENANT CSR.

NOW WHAT ABOUT THESE TELECOMMUNICATIONS OPERATORS? CAN'T WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T, WE GET SOME INDIVIDUALS LIKE FROM, UH, WE, WE DEAL WITH WORK FOR US OR HELPS OR SOMETHING ADVERTISE FOR THOSE POSITIONS.

I MEAN, THEY'RE ON OUR WEBSITE.

IT'S JUST VERY, VERY HARD FOR US TO KEEP THOSE POSITIONS.

WE HAVE SOME THAT COME IN AND THEY'LL WORK LIKE A MONTH OR TWO AND THEY JUST CAN'T HANDLE THE STRESS AND THEY RESIGN.

SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR POSITIONS THAT'S JUST CONSTANTLY OPEN DUE TO THAT, THAT FACTOR.

AND WHAT ABOUT THE SAME THING WITH THE, LIKE THE SECRETARIES CON THOSE CAN'T BE TEMPS, WHICH ONE? WHICH SECRETARY? UH, POLICE.

UH, IT JUST SAYS SECRETARY.

I THINK THAT MAY BE A NEW POSITION.

IF IT'S ON THAT LIST THAT I GAVE YOU, THEN IT'S PROBABLY AN OLD POSITION.

I'D HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT ONE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MOSES.

MAYOR PRO TEM TAMEKA ON THE NEW POSITIONS SOMEONE HAS TO, UH, FROM THERE WHEN THEY WANT JUSTIFICATION FOR FILLING THOSE NEW POSITIONS.

MA'AM THOSE ORIGINATE BY EITHER.

UM, I KNOW THE PDQ WOULD UPGRADE SOMEBODY, BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO WRITE IN, UH, OR A DEPARTMENT HEAD WOULD HAVE TO JUSTIFY WANTING TO, UH, AND THE WRITING, WHO IS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD DURING THAT OR THE MANAGER, OR ARE YOU ASSISTING THEM WITH TRYING TO GET THOSE JOBS? THEY'LL SEND US A MEMO STATING, YOU KNOW, WHAT POSITION THEY NEED, WHY THEY NEED THE POSITION.

AND IT COMES THROUGH A US TO ENSURE THAT THE JOB DESCRIPTION IS OKAY, BUT THEN IT'S ULTIMATELY THE MANAGER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO APPROVE THAT POSITION.

CAUSE I KNOW THE GRANT FUNDED POSITIONS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE FUNDED BY, THEY'RE NOT IN OUR GENERAL FUND, BUT JUSTIFICATION TO HIRE SUCH POSITIONS, UM, ARE, ARE WRITTEN IN AT THIS.

I SEE THAT THERE IS A NEW POSITION AS SECRETARY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S NEW COMING IN.

SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS TO JUSTIFY THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE SO MANY, UM, SECRETARIES AND THEY NEED AN ADDITIONAL SECRETARY FOR WHATEVER THE REASON.

THAT'S TELECOMMUNICATION OPERATOR.

SO THAT'S HOW THOSE POSITIONS ARE, ARE, UH, ADDED OR ASKED OR ARE ASKING TO BE ASKED.

AND ANOTHER THING IN, IN, UM, THE TCO JOBS HERE JUST FOR COUNSEL, UH, BASICALLY I, I, AGAIN, I JUST HATE TO SAY IT, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY I DID THAT JOB FOR 20, ALMOST 20 YEARS AND TCOS, WE NEVER KEPT AN ONGOING TCO EVER FOR 20 YEARS.

WE COULD HIRE, WE COULD HIRE THREE TOMORROW.

AND, UH, BY THE TIME SIX MONTHS CAME AROUND, YOU ONLY, YOU WERE BACK TO THOSE SAME THREE.

THERE'S JUST, IT ROTATED OUT.

I COULD GO, WE COULD GO BACK AND SHOW PROOF OF THAT JOB BEING SOMETHING THAT YOU CANNOT MAINTAIN FOR WHATEVER, THE REASON THEY, THEY GET IN.

YOU HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS.

I COULD PROBABLY NAME A FEW OF THEM BECAUSE THEY LIKE WHAT THEY DO.

BUT THE JOB IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

I HAD TO GO OVER JUST TO SEE WHAT ARE THEY DOING? THAT WE HAD SUCH HUGE TURNOVERS AS TCOS, CAUSE YOU CAN'T KEEP THEM, YOU CAN RECRUIT, YOU CAN PUT ADS IN THE PAPER, THEY WOULD START AND THEY JUST WOULD NOT STAY.

AND THAT'S BACK FROM 1988 TO 2007.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE MUCH CHANGE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS EITHER, BUT THAT WAS JUST THAT KIND OF A JOB.

BUT BASICALLY, UM, THE NEW POSITIONS WAS WHAT MY QUESTION WAS.

I JUST ADDED THAT IN SO THAT COUNCIL COULD KIND OF KNOW ON THE INSIDE WHAT THE TCOS, THAT WAS A BIG TURNOVER.

AND THEY HAD SEVERAL OTHER JOBS THAT WERE MAINTENANCE WORKER, ONE'S MAINTENANCE, WORKERS, TWOS.

THOSE ARE BIG TURNOVER JOBS AS WELL.

BUT, UM, THE NEW POSITIONS, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THOSE WHO'S WRITING THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR THOSE JOBS.

UM, IF THERE ISN'T AN EXISTING ONE, LIKE THE NEW NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE SUPERVISOR THAT WOULD BE WRITTEN BY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD ABOUT WHAT SKILLS AND QUALIFICATIONS THAT SHE NEEDED TO COME IN TO HIRE THAT WOULD NOT BE DEVELOPED BY HR.

YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD HELP HER TO GUIDE HER IN THAT, BUT SHE WOULD HAVE TO COME IN KNOWING WHAT THAT JOB AND WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS AND HOW THAT NEEDS TO OPERATE.

CAUSE THEY HAVE TO GIVE US SOME TYPE OF INSIGHT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL IT ENTAILS.

SO THEY HAVE TO GIVE US SOMEWHERE TO START WITH.

AND BASICALLY THEY'LL GIVE US LIKE A JOB DESCRIPTION AND WE JUST ENSURE THAT IT'S FORMATTED CORRECTLY AND ALL THE THINGS THAT THE JOB REQUIRES IT'S IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND IT'S ADA COMPLIANCE STILL A REQUIREMENT ON THOSE JOB DESCRIPTION.

AND I KNOW OF REDOING HOW WE COME IN AND THIS IS JUST ON THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS, REVISIONS THAT WE WERE PREPARING TO DO.

SO THEY HAVE TO ADD THOSE THINGS.

AND SO FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THE CLERK TO THAT'S A NORMAL JOB DESCRIPTION, I ALREADY HAVE THAT UNLESS IT'S SPECIFIC TO A SPECIFIC JOB, CORRECT.

THE SECRETARY, WHAT SHOULD BE A GENERIC JOB DESCRIPTION? YES MA'AM.

AND LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.

ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THAT DEPARTMENT WOULD ACTUALLY BE AGAIN, UM, SPECIFIC TO THAT PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT, ALL WE IN THE PROCESS.

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LIKE LAST YEAR, HAVE WE GOTTEN FURTHER ON GETTING THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS REVIVED? WE HAVE, UM, NOT A LOT.

I'M GOING TO BE HONEST.

UM, CAUSE WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE OFFICE.

UM, BUT WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET THAT PROCESS COMPLETED FOR YOU GUYS.

YOU'RE WELL, ONE MORE ANYBODY ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? YES.

COUNCILOR MARKS.

UH, THIS IS GOING BACK INTO THE, UH, THE BUDGET NOTEBOOK THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US ON PAGE 75.

I THINK IT IS.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE, UH, CENTER, RIGHT? WELL, I'M LOOKING AT MOTOR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE FOR, I GUESS THIS IS, THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATION.

IF YOU'RE ON PAGE 75, THE SOLID WASTE ADMINISTRATION, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? YEAH.

THAT BUT TRASH COLLECTION AND THEN A RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION.

BUT UM, I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE LINE ITEMS FOR, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.

UH, THERE HAS BEEN SOME, SOME HAVE THERE BEEN SOME ISSUES, UH, CONCERNING GETTING OUR EQUIPMENT REPAIRED AND RETURNED TO US, UH, FROM, FROM THE VENDORS OUT.

UH, I THINK THERE'S ONE IN HOUSTON AND ONE, ONE OR TWO IN BEAUMONT WHERE WE SEND OUR EQUIPMENT OFF TO BE A REPAIR.

AND IS THERE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT? YES, SIR.

UH, I KNOW FOR ONE ON THE TRASH WITH THE ARMS, WE HAD TO AMEND OUR BUDGET TO ALLOW US TO GO IN CAUSE WE NEEDED SOME EXTRA MONEY TO END UP HAVING SOME OF THOSE LARGER VEHICLES THAT'S THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE SPECIALTY EXPERIENCE TO WORK ON OUTSOURCE THEM TO THOSE, THE MANUFACTURER TO GET THOSE REPLACEMENT ARMS. AND I THINK A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO WITH, I KNOW MR. BIRD HAS A BIG EMPHASIS TO MAKE SURE OUR TRASH TRUCKS GET IN AND OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND SOME OF WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUE WITH MAINTAINING THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATORS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STAFFED UP TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THOSE REGULAR PMS. AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A QUICK TURN AROUND ON THOSE VEHICLES.

AND SO WHEN WE OUTSOURCE AGAIN WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, HOW TO USE THE SAME PROCESS, PUTS US IN LINE WITH THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE OTHER TRUCKS AHEAD OF US.

SO WHEN THERE'S A SLOW RETURN ON VEHICLES COMING BACK INTO OUR OPERATION IS DUE TO PARTS, BUT ALSO DUE TO THE PINE, THE TIMING YOU GOT IN LINE TO GET REPAIRED TO ANOTHER VENDOR OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT EQUIPMENT SURFACE OPERATION.

SO DO WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THIS FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET TO COVER THE, UH, THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, THE ADDITION OF ANY NEW POSITIONS FOR, UH, UH, MECHANICS OR OUR REPAIR PEOPLE HERE ON STAFF IS THAT INCLUDED IN THIS.

AND I THINK WE DID DO A PART TWO THE AMENDMENT TO, TO ADD SOME POSITIONS.

SO THAT WAS THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO EITHER GO TO A SECOND SHARE OF THE WORK TO WHERE WE CAN DO AFTER HOURS.

SO THAT WAS PART OF THE PLAN WAS TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE PROPER STAFF AND TO DO SOME OF THE PMS AFTER HOURS AND NOT TRY TO DO IT DURING THE EIGHT TO FIVE OPERATION.

IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE CRITICAL ISSUES THAT MY CONSTITUENTS OR CALLING ME ABOUT IS, IS THE, THE, THE NUMBER AND FREQUENCY OF, UH, DAYS THAT ARE, I GUESS, MISSED OR PUSHED BACK BEFORE RESIDENTIAL TRASH COLLECTION.

SO, OKAY.

SO, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE IN BETTER SHAPE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, AS FAR AS MAINTAINING THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE RUN ON ON A REGULAR BASIS IN REGARDS TO, UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND AS MR. MORRIS STATED, UM, THERE WAS A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL TO ADD ADDITIONAL STAFF AND THE ISSUES THEY ARE FACING IS THE AVAILABILITY OF PARTS.

UM, THE SAME AS WE ARE FACING AND ACTUALLY GETTING INTO EQUIPMENT, UM, DUE TO, UH, WHICH IS CONSIDERED TO BE A NATIONAL ISSUE, UM, THAT HAS BEEN A MAJOR CONCERN FOR THE CITY.

UM, THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, EVEN WITH THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF THAT HAS BEEN PLACED ON HOLE BECAUSE OF THE AVAILABILITY OF SUCH PARTS OR ELECTRONICS THAT GO INTO THESE VEHICLES.

SO THE STAFFING IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT THE AVAILABILITY OF THESE PARTS TO GET THE WORK PERFORMED IS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S BEYOND THE CITY'S CONTROL.

AND, AND SO THAT, THAT, THAT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE SHOULD ADDRESS IN BUDGET, BUT

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AND, AND, AND, UH, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THIS NEW BUDGET THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO MAKE, TO ENSURE THAT WE AT LEAST ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM AND TRY TO DO, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY AS CLOSE TO THE ON SCHEDULE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

MAY I APPROACH PAM? UM, AND OUR SCOTT, EITHER ONE, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT LEASING, UM, SOME OF THESE TRUCKS DUMP TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENTS THAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE DOUG GARBAGE TRUCKS? BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE HAD, WE TALKED ABOUT LEASING OUR PERS PURCHASING ONES THAT DON'T HAVE THE LITTLE BOTTOM LIFTS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY IN THE SHOP GARAGE SHOP.

WHAT'S THE PLAN OF ACTION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MOST OF, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE GET ALL RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION AND I WANT TO ASSURE THE PEOPLE THAT THIS COUNCIL IS WORKING HARD TO ENSURE THAT IT, THE ONE THING WE CAN DO IS MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET YOUR TRASH PICK UP AT YOUR HOUSE.

SO WHAT WAS THE PLAN FOR THIS CITY, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO LEASE IT? I DON'T SEE LEASING ARM.

SO WE PLAN ON PURCHASING THESE TRUCKS AGAIN, EXCUSE ME.

YEAH, NO, I'M GOOD.

I THINK THE GOAL IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT FACTOR AT THE LANDFILL AND EVERYTHING THAT'S CAUSED PROVIDENCE TO OUR CURRENT FLEET, I KNOW WE STILL HAVE SOME LEASE PAYMENTS ON THE CURRENT FLEET THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAD SOME THAT WERE DAMAGED ON HARVEY.

GOT IT.

SO THE GOAL IS ONCE THOSE ARE OUT, THEIR USEFUL LIFE IS UP.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND SAY, DO YOU WANT TO DO A LEASE OPTION? OR DO YOU WANT TO PURCHASE THESE OUT RIGHT, TO BE ABLE TO GIVE US, UM, NOT TOO MUCH DEBT ONTO THE BOOKS UNTIL WE GET SOME PAID OFF.

BUT THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH, UH, ANOTHER SPEC TO GET A TRUCK THAT WE KNOW WILL BE ABLE TO MEET, UM, THE NEEDS THAT WE NEED WITHOUT HAVING TO, UH, IN A SAY, ENCOUNTER ISSUES THAT WE ARE AT THE MANSFIELD AND THE BOTTOMS AND THE ROAD, SO THAT OUR SPECS WOULD BE NEXT TIME IT'S TO MAKE SURE WE DID SPEC OUT A TRUCK THAT CAN ADDRESS THAT RATHER THAN GOING WITH THE LOWEST POSSIBLE BA, BUT MAKE SURE WE SPEC IT OUT TO WHERE WE GET THE BEST QUALITY TRUCK AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN ITSELF BEYOND THE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS WITHOUT IT BEING A, UH, UH, EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE ISSUE.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WHEN YOU GET THESE FIRST GENERATION VEHICLES, YOU END UP GETTING VEHICLES THAT HAVEN'T QUITE BEEN, ALL THE BUGS WORKED OUT.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH A DIFFERENT PARTICULAR TRUCK, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT THE FIRST GENERATION, BUT MAYBE THE SECOND OR THIRD GENERATION OF THE TRUCK TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR CREW GO IN AND VISUALLY INSPECT THESE AND MAYBE HAVE A COMEBACK, DO SOME DEMOS PERSONALLY, AND THEN BE ABLE TO SEE IF THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT WE WANT TO PUT OUR MONEY INTO.

SO THE GOAL IS ONCE THIS DEBT IS PAID OFF, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT'S THE NEXT GENERATION OF VEHICLES WE NEED TO REPLACE.

AND THEN PUT THAT BEFORE THE COUNCIL SAY, THESE ARE THE FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX THAT WE WANT TO REPLACE, AND THIS IS HOW WE'D BE ABLE TO FUND IT.

SO THE GOAL IS NOT TO PUT TOO MUCH ON THERE AND THEN ULTIMATELY HAVE TO JUSTIFY FEES TOO HIGH, OTHER TRASH FEES, TOO HIGH TO PAY THAT DEBT.

SO THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A SOLID PLAN AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT ONCE THAT DEBT IS PAID OFF OF THOSE VEHICLES CAN BE TRADED IN FOR A NEW MODEL.

IT MORE LOW MILEAGE APPLICATIONS, WE COULD KEEP THEM FOR THE 48 OR 60 MONTH PROCESS, BUT THOSE THAT HAVE HIGH MILEAGE OR 10 TO 12,000 MILES A YEAR, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHOW A RETURN IF WE TURN THEM OVER A LOT MORE FREQUENT, WHICH WOULD BE 12 TO 18 MONTHS OR 24 MONTHS.

UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, UM, IN REFERENCE TO THE LEASE, UM, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE LEASE AND, UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE COME BACK THE, THE LENGTH OF OUR LEASE.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT LEASE, UM, WHAT THOSE VEHICLES ARE THEY, WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE AT THE END OF THE LEASE TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT OR TO, UH, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A 60 MONTH LEASE, 60 MONTH LEASE OR A 75 MONTH LEASE, THEN AT THE END OF THAT, LEASE THOSE VEHICLES THAT WE'VE LEASED.

I KNOW YOU HAVE OPTIONS AT THE END OF THE LEASE, LIKE ON HEAVY EQUIPMENT, UH, FURNITURE, UH, COMMERCIAL FURNITURE, COMMERCIAL COPIERS AT THE END OF THE LEASE, UH, IS THERE AN OPTION TO BUY THOSE VEHICLES ARE WHAT ARE THE, THE, UH, UNDERLYING IN THE CONTRACT? WHAT DOES THAT CONTRACT STATE AT THE END OF THE LEASE ONCE THEY, ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THAT? WELL, I THINK THE GOAL IS, IS WHEN DURING THE PRESENTATION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU THAT IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE VEHICLES THAT HAVE LOW MILEAGE, WE CAN PROBABLY KEEP THEM BEYOND THE 24 36 MONTH LEASE OPTION.

BUT THOSE THAT HAVE HIGH MILEAGE, THE LEAST OPTION TO PURCHASE, RIGHT, OR TO, TO TURN THEM OFF, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN TURN THEM OVER WHERE YOU HAVE SOME EQUITY, THEN YOU'D BE ABLE TO HAVE, INSTEAD OF US GETTING UPSIDE DOWN IT'S TO BE EXTRA, WE HAVE AN OPTION TO GET THE SAME SIMILAR OR THE NEXT GENERATION OF VEHICLE FOR SOME OF THE ROUTINE DAY-TO-DAY STUFF.

SO THE GOAL IS ONCE WE LOOK AT THE DUMP TRUCKS, THOSE THAT HAVE LOW MILEAGE AND THEY CALL

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THAT'D BE GREAT.

AND I SAW WE HAVE STREETS.

DO YOU HAVE TWO, FOUR YARD TRUCKS? YES.

THAT BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING TO RIGHT.

UM, UNDER THE LEAVES, RIGHT.

AND CURRENTLY OUR TRUCKS ARE HOW, HOW LONG, UH, WHAT'S THE, UH, LENGTH OF THE TRUCKS WE CURRENTLY, I THINK WHEN THE CITY, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT HISTORICALLY, WE'VE USUALLY KEPT OUR TRUCKS ABOUT 10 YEARS IN LAND.

AND SO WHEN YOU GET PAST THAT SEVEN, EIGHT YEAR MARK, YOU START PUTTING A LOT AND MAINTENANCE.

YEAH, NO, THE LENGTH, I KNOW YOU HAVE A FOUR YARD.

SO WE HAD BOUGHT SOME TRUCKS IN 2017 AND THEY WERE NOT, UM, FOUR YARD TRUCKS.

THEY WERE NOT THE LENGTH.

THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE MUCH, THEY WERE NOT USEFUL.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE FOUR YARD TRUCKS ARE THE LARGER TRUCKS THAT WE NEED TO UTILIZE IN OUR, IN OUR TRASH DEPARTMENT.

I'M SORRY, NOT STREETS, BUT OUR TRASH DEPARTMENT NOT STREETS FOR.

SO THE QUESTION IS HOW LONG ARE THE TRUCKS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE? WHAT'S THE LENGTH OF THEM Y'ALL KNOW THAT FOUR YARDS, FIVE YARDS.

AND I THINK WITH THE, WITH THE TRASH, THOSE BIG ONES, UH, THOSE ARE USUALLY, I THINK THEY'RE NINE TO 10 FS WITH THE GRAPPLE ALARM IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

THOSE, THOSE ARE 20 YARDS, 20 YARDS.

SO BEFORE WE BOUGHT TRUCKS THAT WERE NOT USEFUL, Y'ALL REMEMBER THOSE TRUCKS THAT WE PURCHASED AND WE COULDN'T REALLY USE THEM.

WE HAD TO KEEP GOING BACK FROM THE LANDFILL, UH, JUMP UP THAT MORE TRIPS WERE GOING.

UM, AND SO WE HA WE REPLACED THOSE AFTER HURRICANE HARVEY WITH THE LONGER TRUCKS.

SO WHAT W ARE WE PURCHASING NOW FOR MY C LET'S SEE.

OH, THEY DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRUCK, TRASH TRUCKS WITH PURCHASING OR LEASING.

THIS LIST THAT YOU PUT IN OUR HANDS ABOUT VACANCIES IS PHENOMENAL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, BUT LISTEN, I THINK, I THINK, UM, I THINK WE WOULD ALL BE ABOUT THE CONSENSUS OF ADDRESSING THIS AND LOOKING FOR THE ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT OF, UH, I DON'T I'M I'M UNDER THIS LEARNING CURVE.

SO WORK WITH ME.

UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE PROCESS MEANS AND WHAT SOME OF THESE TERMS MEAN.

AND I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT AND PUT YOU THERE, BUT CAN YOU GIVE ME, UH, UH, UH, UH, SYLLABUS OR SOMETHING, SOME TERMINOLOGIES SO THAT I CAN KNOW WHAT THESE TERMS MEAN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NO REQUISITION AND THE REFERRALS, BECAUSE I SEE THESE THINGS REFERRALS SENT, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

AND WHERE DOES THAT PLACE US IN THE PROCESS OF ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT IN FULFILLING THESE POSITIONS? AND THEN LIKE FOR THIS SENIOR PLANNER ON STAFF, THAT INTERVIEW WAS DONE ON SIP ON 9, 9, 21.

THAT'S JUST BEEN, THAT'S NOT EVEN, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROBABLY 20.

SO THAT'S 20.

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TWINNING.

SO THAT'S BEEN A YEAR FOR THE SENIOR PLANNER.

WE ACTUALLY WILL CONDUCT INTERVIEWS ON SEPTEMBER 9TH OF THIS YEAR.

SO THE INTERVIEWS ARE SCHEDULED FOR THIS WEEK.

OH, YES.

IT WAS PUBLISHED PRIOR TO, UM, UNDER A DIFFERENT TITLE, UH, FOR THAT POSITION.

WE DID NOT GET ANY CALL QUALIFIED APPLICANTS.

SO WE DID GO BACK AND REVIEW THAT JOB DESCRIPTION PROVIDED HUMAN RESOURCES WITH AN UPDATED PRESCRIPTION DESCRIPTION.

THEY DID, UM, SEND IT BACK OUT FOR, UM, APPLICANTS.

AND SO WE WILL CONDUCT INTERVIEWS THIS WEEK.

YES, THEY ARE SCHEDULED.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO REQUISITION RIGHT QUESTION.

AND SO WE WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE, WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE NO REQUISITION RECEIVED.

SO, UH, NO REQUISITION MEANS THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS THE VACANCY, BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A REQUISITION OR JUSTIFICATION FORM TO EITHER, UM, POST IT INTERNALLY OR EXTERNALLY.

SO WHAT I'LL DO TO HELP YOU IS, UM, COME UP WITH A LISTING OF WHAT ALL THIS MEANS AND THE PROCESS FOR HIRING.

UM, AND, AND I KNOW CHARLOTTE IS VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT I'LL JUST PROVIDE IT TO, UM, EVERYONE.

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AND THAT, THAT REQUISITION STARTS THE HIRING PROCESS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES IT ANY BETTER, BUT IT STARTS, IT INITIATES THAT COMES FROM THE DIRECTOR AND THAT COMES FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEAD DEPARTMENT.

THEY NEED TO SEND IT TO HR.

THAT IS THE PAPER THAT THAT'S THE ONE SHEET OF PAPER THAT INITIATES HIRING FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEAD.

AND IF YOU DON'T GET THAT, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE JOB.

IT STARTS THE WHOLE THING.

AND THAT'S, AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

UH, MOSES.

SO, UH, BUT THE JOB IS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR YES, SIR.

IT SHOULDN'T SIT IN A REQUISITION IF THEY DON'T HAVE NO MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT.

DO WE, DO WE POST THESE LINKEDIN? UM, IF THE DEPARTMENT REQUESTS THAT IT BE POSTED IN CERTAIN AREAS, WE WILL, UH, NORMALLY IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE OR IF IT'S A PROFESSIONAL POSITION, IT'LL BE ON A TML OR ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL SITE, BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING FOR AND IF THEY REQUEST IT TO BE POSTED OTHER, OTHER PLACES, BUT WE DON'T DO THAT AS A, AS A RULE I CAN GET WITH CRYSTAL BECAUSE I THINK LAST WEEK OR WEEK BEFORE I DID SEE SOMETHING THAT WAS POSTED THERE.

I KNOW WE DO INDEED.

I'LL GET WITH HER TO SEE IF LINKEDIN IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THOSE, UH, JOB SITES THAT SHE POSTS JOBS.

WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT.

ANYBODY, ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

UM, MS. LINCOLN, I ALSO WANTED TO INFORM COUNCIL THAT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT DOES SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS ON A WEEKLY BASIS, UM, TO REACH OUT TO THEM IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE WITH DOING THE REQUISITIONS AND JUSTIFICATIONS WITH THESE POSITIONS.

UM, SO WE CAN WORK ON GETTING ALL OF THESE POSITIONS FIELD.

SO THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, UM, THROUGH THE DIRECTION OF THE MANAGER DOES SEND OUT A WEEKLY CORRESPONDENCE TO ALL DEPARTMENTS REGARDING THESE PATIENTS.

CAN THE MANAGER INITIALIZE THAT, I MEAN, INITIATE THAT, AND THEN HE KINDA, INSTEAD OF WAITING TO GO UP, CAN WE GO DOWN AND, AND INITIATE THAT HE HAS, HE'S INITIATED THAT THROUGH THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT.

SO THEY ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS REGARDING THESE VACANCIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

MA'AM ALL RIGHT.

IT, I'M SORRY.

I GOT TO READ IT SYSTEM THAT YOU ALL ARE GETTING WELL, THE REQUISITION START TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

WILL IT BE INITIALIZED THROUGH THE PROCESS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE? YES.

MA'AM.

SO, UM, THAT'LL MAKE THE PROCESS A LOT EASIER.

SO WE WON'T BE WAITING ON PAPERWORK TO RETURN TO OUR OFFICE.

SO YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN MOSER.

I'VE USED THAT SYSTEM BEFORE AND IT'S EXCELLENT.

AND IT DOES MAKE IT EASIER.

MY LAST THING CANDY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE WORKSHOP.

I KNOW WE HAD A LITTLE HICCUP WITH THE JOBS, BUT I'M HOPING THAT AGAIN, WE WILL GET THAT GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, DISTINGUISHED BUDGET PRESENTATION AWARD.

UM, WE GOT IT IN 2020, AND I CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, US RECEIVING IT AGAIN, UH, FOR 2021 PLAN ON SUBMITTING IT.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO GET IT AGAIN.

UH, LET ME TAKE, YES.

MA'AM YOU'RE FINE.

MS. JONES, COME BACK, PLEASE.

I SAW YOU WANTING TO ASK A QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD ABOUT THE WORKERS OF THE CITY.

ARE THEY, UH, HAVE YOU ALL PUT THEM IN A BUDGET FOR A RAISE OR SENDING? I THINK THEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT 2%, 2%.

THAT'S WHERE THEY GET IN THIS BUDGET COMING.

THE CITY EMPLOYEES.

MA'AM EMPLOYEES RAISED WOULD BE 2%.

YES MA'AM.

THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, UM, I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH THAT FOR THE SIMPLE REASON, THIS 130,000 A YEAR.

IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? I THINK 2%.

I THINK SHE SAID THAT I THINK 2% IS SUPPOSED TO MILLION DOLLARS FOR, WELL, THE ON WORKFORCE PERALTA'S OPPOSE IS 30,000 A YEAR WITH THIS 2%.

UH, UH, WELL, ANYBODY, I THINK I GOT THAT FROM HER.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH THAT FOR THE SEPARATE REASONS, THE UPDATES THAT HAS GONE UP AND ALSO THE INSURANCE THAT THEY CAN HOLD ON.

WAIT ONE MOMENT.

BUT I THINK I MAY BE, I THINK I MAY BE, UH, OUT OF ORDER FOR JUST ONE MOMENT.

LET ME FIND OUT FROM OUR CITY SECRETARY, FROM MY CITY ATTORNEY WAIT, SO SHE CAN'T SPEAK IN OUR WORKSHOP.

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SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF I, I, SO, SO THE QUESTION IS ABOUT THE PROCEDURE YOU CALLED HER UP.

HOWEVER, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, NOW IF THERE'S ANY ACTION ITEM, ANYONE CAN SPEAK TO ANY, ANY ACTION ITEM.

SO WE HAVE RECESS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET TILL THE 14TH.

YOU COULD ALWAYS PICK THOSE QUESTIONS BACK UP THEN MS. JONES, JUST ADDRESS ME WITH THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE.

I WILL FIND OUT AND I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU.

NO.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE WORKERS OF THE CITY AND FROM WHAT I JUST GET WITH ME.

OH, WELL, OKAY.

MA'AM JUST GET WITH ME AND I'LL GET THE ANSWER FOR YOU.

OH, OKAY.

I ENDED UP, I WENT BEYOND MY SCOPE OF AUTHORITY RIGHT THERE.

I APOLOGIZE.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO WHAT WAS GOING ON AROUND.

WE'RE DONE EVERYBODY GOOD.

UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.

SO MOVED BY COUNCILWOMAN MOSES SECOND BY COUNCIL IN KEN LAW.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE.